Looting in Missouri after cops shoot 18 year old (5 Viewers)

[Raider Nation]

I'm kind of envious that he has some buddies who are loyal enough to aid him in mass-murder.

 

[Limp Ditka]

I'm kind of envious that he has some buddies who are loyal enough to aid him in mass-murder.

Stan! Buddy! Have I ever steered you wrong? I'm telling you, no jury would ever convict us. Now get over here..

 

[mcintyre1]

Is Wilson the only person to say Brown was reaching for his waistband as he came back at him down the street? Convenient little nugget.

I don't see why it matters. If Brown was charging him he didn't have too many options, gun or no gun.

So far as I have read, two witnesses claimed Brown "charged" at Wilson: the racist girl with the sketchy journal that just so happens to perfectly describe the incident while also conveniently explaining why the author apparently didn't report their story immediately ("no one would believe me"), and a second man who worked in the area (far enough away so as not hear any yelling) who had a better view of Wilson's back than Brown (and who gave his report 2 days later because he didn't think anyone else would "tell the truth").

The rest have said either that they didn't see him get shot directly, or that he turned and walked back toward Wilson (some says with arms at his sides, others with his arms out front in a protective manner. Two others clearly contradict themselves after being interviewed by the FBI and basically admit that they're filling in gaps in their actual witnessing of the event.

 

[SIDA!]

Um...my lawfully earned and gained property and the income from which I pay taxes expressly for the purpose of government protection comes before the lives of some marauding thugs. Cops standing in a line on a street while looters burn and vandalize isn't protecting any lives.

Lives come before property. It's extraordinarily disgusting and revealing you don't understand that.

You try to take mine and I am going to pump a shot into your body. If you value my property more than your life...that is your problem. Not mine.

The only thing you're pumping is a brown steamer into your pants when confronted by someone, in a scenario like this, deadset on taking what's yours.

Sure thing. I guess you have the viewpoint that most people live in fear of others. I am not one of them. I guarantee you that had I been a business owner in Ferguson, my building wouldn't have burned down.

Actually, it has nothing to do with fear. My viewpoint is that sane people value life over property.

Your implication was that I would be scared ####less. Trust me, it is the other guy who is going to be scared. If I was a business owner in Ferguson it would be very simple. Myself and a couple of buddies would post up with some high powered semi automatic rifles and five hundred rounds of ammunition each. The moment my front window drops and I am dropping some mother####ers on the sidewalk.

Period.

There is no way in hell any jury is going to convict me of a ####### thing and I won't lose a moment of sleep over it.

Because the only way to combat violence is with more violence?

You have some serious issues. Most things aren't worth jail time or loss of lives. You sound like a horrible human being.

You sound like a #####.

 

[Raider Nation]

St. Louis County police chief: "It wouldn't have made any difference if the news was released in the morning."

 

[SIDA!]

I'm kind of envious that he has some buddies who are loyal enough to aid him in mass-murder.

I lived through the Rodney King riots.

Lifelong lessons learned that week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgCiC6qTtjs

 

[Smack Tripper]

Is Wilson the only person to say Brown was reaching for his waistband as he came back at him down the street? Convenient little nugget.

I don't see why it matters. If Brown was charging him he didn't have too many options, gun or no gun.

So far as I have read, two witnesses claimed Brown "charged" at Wilson: the racist girl with the sketchy journal that just so happens to perfectly describe the incident while also conveniently explaining why the author apparently didn't report their story immediately ("no one would believe me"), and a second man who worked in the area (far enough away so as not hear any yelling) who had a better view of Wilson's back than Brown (and who gave his report 2 days later because he didn't think anyone else would "tell the truth").

The rest have said either that they didn't see him get shot directly, or that he turned and walked back toward Wilson (some says with arms at his sides, others with his arms out front in a protective manner. Two others clearly contradict themselves after being interviewed by the FBI and basically admit that they're filling in gaps in their actual witnessing of the event.

no dog in this fight but what about the powder burns in brown's hands?

 

[Limp Ditka]

I'm kind of envious that he has some buddies who are loyal enough to aid him in mass-murder.

I lived through the Rodney King riots.

Lifelong lessons learned that week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgCiC6qTtjs

Looks at those ####### on the roof. A real man like you wouldn't need higher ground.

 

[modogg]

I'm kind of envious that he has some buddies who are loyal enough to aid him in mass-murder.

and who are naive enough to think it is as simple as a video game. Life must be easy that way

 

[mcintyre1]

Is Wilson the only person to say Brown was reaching for his waistband as he came back at him down the street? Convenient little nugget.

I don't see why it matters. If Brown was charging him he didn't have too many options, gun or no gun.

So far as I have read, two witnesses claimed Brown "charged" at Wilson: the racist girl with the sketchy journal that just so happens to perfectly describe the incident while also conveniently explaining why the author apparently didn't report their story immediately ("no one would believe me"), and a second man who worked in the area (far enough away so as not hear any yelling) who had a better view of Wilson's back than Brown (and who gave his report 2 days later because he didn't think anyone else would "tell the truth").

The rest have said either that they didn't see him get shot directly, or that he turned and walked back toward Wilson (some says with arms at his sides, others with his arms out front in a protective manner. Two others clearly contradict themselves after being interviewed by the FBI and basically admit that they're filling in gaps in their actual witnessing of the event.

no dog in this fight but what about the powder burns in brown's hands?

The autopsy report I read earlier won't load right now (I'm sure the servers are getting slammed) so I can't confirm, but at least in regard to the thumb tip "graze" injury on Brown's right hand, I'm pretty sure the (non-private) autopsy indicated that there was no powder present.

 

[SameSongNDance]

Um...my lawfully earned and gained property and the income from which I pay taxes expressly for the purpose of government protection comes before the lives of some marauding thugs. Cops standing in a line on a street while looters burn and vandalize isn't protecting any lives.

Lives come before property. It's extraordinarily disgusting and revealing you don't understand that.

You try to take mine and I am going to pump a shot into your body. If you value my property more than your life...that is your problem. Not mine.

The only thing you're pumping is a brown steamer into your pants when confronted by someone, in a scenario like this, deadset on taking what's yours.

Sure thing. I guess you have the viewpoint that most people live in fear of others. I am not one of them. I guarantee you that had I been a business owner in Ferguson, my building wouldn't have burned down.

Actually, it has nothing to do with fear. My viewpoint is that sane people value life over property.

Your implication was that I would be scared ####less. Trust me, it is the other guy who is going to be scared. If I was a business owner in Ferguson it would be very simple. Myself and a couple of buddies would post up with some high powered semi automatic rifles and five hundred rounds of ammunition each. The moment my front window drops and I am dropping some mother####ers on the sidewalk.

Period.

There is no way in hell any jury is going to convict me of a ####### thing and I won't lose a moment of sleep over it.

What a loser.

 

[Raider Nation]

Home/business/auto insurance rates must be through the roof in this city.

ETA: I totally don't mean that in a flippant way.

 

[SIDA!]

I'm kind of envious that he has some buddies who are loyal enough to aid him in mass-murder.

I lived through the Rodney King riots.

Lifelong lessons learned that week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgCiC6qTtjs

Looks at those ####### on the roof. A real man like you wouldn't need higher ground.

You can laugh or mock all you want. Doesn't really matter.

Feel free to hide and let some parasites destroy everything you have built. You're a better man than I.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Um...my lawfully earned and gained property and the income from which I pay taxes expressly for the purpose of government protection comes before the lives of some marauding thugs. Cops standing in a line on a street while looters burn and vandalize isn't protecting any lives.

Lives come before property. It's extraordinarily disgusting and revealing you don't understand that.

You try to take mine and I am going to pump a shot into your body. If you value my property more than your life...that is your problem. Not mine.

The only thing you're pumping is a brown steamer into your pants when confronted by someone, in a scenario like this, deadset on taking what's yours.

Sure thing. I guess you have the viewpoint that most people live in fear of others. I am not one of them. I guarantee you that had I been a business owner in Ferguson, my building wouldn't have burned down.

Actually, it has nothing to do with fear. My viewpoint is that sane people value life over property.

Your implication was that I would be scared ####less. Trust me, it is the other guy who is going to be scared. If I was a business owner in Ferguson it would be very simple. Myself and a couple of buddies would post up with some high powered semi automatic rifles and five hundred rounds of ammunition each. The moment my front window drops and I am dropping some mother####ers on the sidewalk.

Period.

There is no way in hell any jury is going to convict me of a ####### thing and I won't lose a moment of sleep over it.

Because the only way to combat violence is with more violence?

You have some serious issues. Most things aren't worth jail time or loss of lives. You sound like a horrible human being.

You sound like a #####.

If being a person who values human life is a #####, then this is a world not made for me.

You should be locked up in jail or a mental institution.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Is Wilson the only person to say Brown was reaching for his waistband as he came back at him down the street? Convenient little nugget.

I don't see why it matters. If Brown was charging him he didn't have too many options, gun or no gun.

So far as I have read, two witnesses claimed Brown "charged" at Wilson: the racist girl with the sketchy journal that just so happens to perfectly describe the incident while also conveniently explaining why the author apparently didn't report their story immediately ("no one would believe me"), and a second man who worked in the area (far enough away so as not hear any yelling) who had a better view of Wilson's back than Brown (and who gave his report 2 days later because he didn't think anyone else would "tell the truth").

The rest have said either that they didn't see him get shot directly, or that he turned and walked back toward Wilson (some says with arms at his sides, others with his arms out front in a protective manner. Two others clearly contradict themselves after being interviewed by the FBI and basically admit that they're filling in gaps in their actual witnessing of the event.

no dog in this fight but what about the powder burns in brown's hands?

The autopsy report I read earlier won't load right now (I'm sure the servers are getting slammed) so I can't confirm, but at least in regard to the thumb tip "graze" injury on Brown's right hand, I'm pretty sure the (non-private) autopsy indicated that there was no powder present.

weren't there three autopsies?

 

[Raider Nation]

For those of us who will be reading this thread on mobile for most of the day tomorrow....

Keeping the nested quotes to a minimum would be greatly appreciated!!!

Thanks.

 

[mcintyre1]

Only through maybe 12 witness accounts so far, but I'm struggling to see why this didn't end in indictment for trial aside from the state not wanting it to. There's a couple accounts corroborating Wilson's version of events but have aspects to them that could cause reasonable doubt, and there's a bunch of people confirming the basic events of an "altercation at the car", shots at the car, Brown fleeing, turning back, moving in some manner toward Wilson (some call it a stumble, others a walk) and either had his arms at his side or raised, but not above his shoulders. There could certainly be more in this thousands of pages that might make it more clear cut, but this evidence only raises more questions for me so far. But those questions are probably unanswerable without video.

 

[skol asylum]

Ferguson resident said same thing, their rates are going to go thru the roof. Also said shouldn't have attacked business owners and if were going to do something attack those responsible. I took this statement as her saying violence was ok with her as a response to the verdict.

 

[mcintyre1]

Is Wilson the only person to say Brown was reaching for his waistband as he came back at him down the street? Convenient little nugget.

I don't see why it matters. If Brown was charging him he didn't have too many options, gun or no gun.

So far as I have read, two witnesses claimed Brown "charged" at Wilson: the racist girl with the sketchy journal that just so happens to perfectly describe the incident while also conveniently explaining why the author apparently didn't report their story immediately ("no one would believe me"), and a second man who worked in the area (far enough away so as not hear any yelling) who had a better view of Wilson's back than Brown (and who gave his report 2 days later because he didn't think anyone else would "tell the truth").

The rest have said either that they didn't see him get shot directly, or that he turned and walked back toward Wilson (some says with arms at his sides, others with his arms out front in a protective manner. Two others clearly contradict themselves after being interviewed by the FBI and basically admit that they're filling in gaps in their actual witnessing of the event.

no dog in this fight but what about the powder burns in brown's hands?

The autopsy report I read earlier won't load right now (I'm sure the servers are getting slammed) so I can't confirm, but at least in regard to the thumb tip "graze" injury on Brown's right hand, I'm pretty sure the (non-private) autopsy indicated that there was no powder present.

weren't there three autopsies?

Might have been, I'm unsure on that. In the document dump I've had access to so far, the only autopsy related items I've seen are an autopsy from shortly after the event by St Louis Co (the one I described earlier), a "private" autopsy (that I haven't been able to read yet due to server issues), and a somewhat curious letter dated Nov 24 from a coroner saying that his autopsy report was attached, but also that he hadn't received a whole list of requested items that, according to him/her, was necessary in performing a normal autopsy investigation.

EDIT: Docs are back up. The official autopsy report appears to only mention "powder" once, when describing the thumb injury (which is to the base of his thumb, not thumb tip as I thought): "No powder stipple is identified." It does follow that by saying "There is a focal area discoloration near the ventral surface of the base of the right thumb" which may be a reference to visible powder residue. The private autopsy indicates there were visible "soot" marks on Brown's thumb, but bases this only on pictures. The private autopsy report is far less detailed than the official one by the medical examiner.

 

[SIDA!]

Um...my lawfully earned and gained property and the income from which I pay taxes expressly for the purpose of government protection comes before the lives of some marauding thugs. Cops standing in a line on a street while looters burn and vandalize isn't protecting any lives.

Lives come before property. It's extraordinarily disgusting and revealing you don't understand that.

You try to take mine and I am going to pump a shot into your body. If you value my property more than your life...that is your problem. Not mine.

The only thing you're pumping is a brown steamer into your pants when confronted by someone, in a scenario like this, deadset on taking what's yours.

Sure thing. I guess you have the viewpoint that most people live in fear of others. I am not one of them. I guarantee you that had I been a business owner in Ferguson, my building wouldn't have burned down.

Actually, it has nothing to do with fear. My viewpoint is that sane people value life over property.

Your implication was that I would be scared ####less. Trust me, it is the other guy who is going to be scared. If I was a business owner in Ferguson it would be very simple. Myself and a couple of buddies would post up with some high powered semi automatic rifles and five hundred rounds of ammunition each. The moment my front window drops and I am dropping some mother####ers on the sidewalk.

Period.

There is no way in hell any jury is going to convict me of a ####### thing and I won't lose a moment of sleep over it.

Because the only way to combat violence is with more violence?

You have some serious issues. Most things aren't worth jail time or loss of lives. You sound like a horrible human being.

You sound like a #####.

If being a person who values human life is a #####, then this is a world not made for me.

You should be locked up in jail or a mental institution.

Nothing wrong with valuing human life. That is not what makes you a #####. Valuing the life of a degenerate parasite who desires to strip you of everything you own and have worked hard for years to create/accomplish is what makes you a #####. But maybe you are the type of guy that would tell the wifey to relax and let the rapist have his way with her, too. I mean, his life is clearly more valuable to you than her physical well being, right?

I love it when people make idealistic statements like "if being a person who values human life"...yada yada yada. You do realize that these ####ers looting in Ferguson don't value or respect your life, your property or anything else. So good luck with that philosophy if civil unrest ever comes to your town. I am sure your family will feel very safe and secure with you leading the household.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Dude you have taken #### completely out of context. You have some serious issues.

Continue with your foolish judgment on things you know nothing about.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

SIDA! home movie.

 

[SproutDaddy]

WE ARE AT WAR!!!! EVERYBODY GET YUR GUNS!!

 

[Good Posting Judge]

SIDA! in DGAF Mode (Animals can get it, too)

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Seasons greetings, from the SIDA's!

 

[Synthesizer]

So once you've killed your first intruder and they are laying there dead in your front window, how do you decide who to kill next? A dead body or two would attract a lot of attention.

 

[Hilts]

Um...my lawfully earned and gained property and the income from which I pay taxes expressly for the purpose of government protection comes before the lives of some marauding thugs. Cops standing in a line on a street while looters burn and vandalize isn't protecting any lives.

Lives come before property. It's extraordinarily disgusting and revealing you don't understand that.

You try to take mine and I am going to pump a shot into your body. If you value my property more than your life...that is your problem. Not mine.

The only thing you're pumping is a brown steamer into your pants when confronted by someone, in a scenario like this, deadset on taking what's yours.

Sure thing. I guess you have the viewpoint that most people live in fear of others. I am not one of them. I guarantee you that had I been a business owner in Ferguson, my building wouldn't have burned down.

Actually, it has nothing to do with fear. My viewpoint is that sane people value life over property.

Your implication was that I would be scared ####less. Trust me, it is the other guy who is going to be scared. If I was a business owner in Ferguson it would be very simple. Myself and a couple of buddies would post up with some high powered semi automatic rifles and five hundred rounds of ammunition each. The moment my front window drops and I am dropping some mother####ers on the sidewalk.

Period.

There is no way in hell any jury is going to convict me of a ####### thing and I won't lose a moment of sleep over it.

You and your buddies are doing it wrong. The windows are your property as well. You need to protect it by any means necessary. Only a ##### would wait until their front window drops. I'd just start roaming the streets and picking them off if they step onto your block.

 

[squistion]

Nothing wrong with valuing human life. That is not what makes you a #####. Valuing the life of a degenerate parasite who desires to strip you of everything you own and have worked hard for years to create/accomplish is what makes you a #####.But maybe you are the type of guy that would tell the wifey to relax and let the rapist have his way with her, too. I mean, his life is clearly more valuable to you than her physical well being, right?

OK...

 

[Ditka Butkus]

I think the cops are doing what ever they can do without turning this into a Kent State type of thing. Shame on whoever wants to see them "advance" and make this even worse.

You mean shame on those who believe public safety officials should fulfill their constitutional obligations to protect the lives and property of its citizenry?

So how many officers do you want to see killed or injured? How many looters and rioters? 50? 100?

No officers..........Looters

 

[Widbil83]

People who started the National Guard got screwed last night.

 

[Brady Marino]

QUIT QUOTING PEOPLE. THREAD IS IMPOSSIBLE TO READ ON MOBILE.

 

[Apple Jack]

Sida...

 

[jon_mx]

The looters are thugs. ####### animals. They appear to be a tiny minority of the protestors, but of course they're going to get all of the press. This sucks.

Kind of like a few bad signs at a Tea Party rally and you are the first to associate that to all of them.

 

[jon_mx]

Best Black Friday Sale evah!

 

[msommer]

The looters are thugs. ####### animals. They appear to be a tiny minority of the protestors, but of course they're going to get all of the press. This sucks.

Kind of like a few bad signs at a Tea Party rally and you are the first to associate that to all of them.

jon_mx sticking up for the tea party against the evil oppressor timschochet

It's gold, Jerry, gold!

 

[jon_mx]

Where the hell is the National Guard?

Ask Obama.

Or, you know, the governor of Missouri. Depending on your grasp of the National Guard.

The Democrat in Obama's pocket?

Bottom line is Obama had more time to prepare of this than Bush did for Katrina. Both screwed the pooch.

FEMA gets involved in natural disasters. How is this situation a federal government responsibility? The guy gets criticized for overreach in his executive powers on one hand and now for not getting involved in something that is not his responsibility on the other. Which is it?

The President Rabble Rouser....

 

[Sinn Fein]

If we had sharia law, the looters would not get away with this imo.

 

[jon_mx]

The looters are thugs. ####### animals. They appear to be a tiny minority of the protestors, but of course they're going to get all of the press. This sucks.

Kind of like a few bad signs at a Tea Party rally and you are the first to associate that to all of them.

jon_mx sticking up for the tea party against the evil oppressor timschochetIt's gold, Jerry, gold!

Tim is easily the biggest hypocrit on this forum and his inconsistent logic is mind-boggling. He wants to be an independent thinker, but then he constantly spews left-wing talking points while being the biggest Obama suck up.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

The looters are thugs. ####### animals. They appear to be a tiny minority of the protestors, but of course they're going to get all of the press. This sucks.

Kind of like a few bad signs at a Tea Party rally and you are the first to associate that to all of them.

jon_mx sticking up for the tea party against the evil oppressor timschochetIt's gold, Jerry, gold!

Tim is easily the biggest hypocrit on this forum and his inconsistent logic is mind-boggling. He wants to be an independent thinker, but then he constantly spews left-wing talking points while being the biggest Obama suck up.

This is so 8 years ago

 

[jon_mx]

The looters are thugs. ####### animals. They appear to be a tiny minority of the protestors, but of course they're going to get all of the press. This sucks.

Kind of like a few bad signs at a Tea Party rally and you are the first to associate that to all of them.

jon_mx sticking up for the tea party against the evil oppressor timschochetIt's gold, Jerry, gold!

Tim is easily the biggest hypocrit on this forum and his inconsistent logic is mind-boggling. He wants to be an independent thinker, but then he constantly spews left-wing talking points while being the biggest Obama suck up.

This is so 8 years ago

Unpossible. Obama was not President yet.

 

[fantasycurse42]

"Looters broke windows and doors of a beauty supply store and stole hair weaves and wigs and left the heads of mannequins strewn in the middle of the road."

That'll show them!@!!

 

[jon_mx]

"Looters broke windows and doors of a beauty supply store and stole hair weaves and wigs and left the heads of mannequins strewn in the middle of the road."

That'll show them!@!!

Typical liberal bias in reporting, not mentioning the race of the mannequins. : thumbdown:

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

Hopefully one day they https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1560374_10153014231793352_453533241766154004_n.jpg?oh=bc8188250d072255b2630fc74512210e&oe=551BFB5F will get justice.

 

[Brady Marino]

QUIT QUOTING PEOPLE. THREAD IS IMPOSSIBLE TO READ ON MOBILE.

in bigger text for the special people.

 

[Otis]

"Looters broke windows and doors of a beauty supply store and stole hair weaves and wigs and left the heads of mannequins strewn in the middle of the road."

That'll show them!@!!

The looting is so silly.

 

[HellToupee]

QUIT QUOTING PEOPLE. THREAD IS IMPOSSIBLE TO READ ON MOBILE.

in bigger text for the special people.

It does make it diffucult to read when you are on mobile

 

[jon_mx]

QUIT QUOTING PEOPLE. THREAD IS IMPOSSIBLE TO READ ON MOBILE.

in bigger text for the special people.

It does make it diffucult to read when you are on mobile

What Do they mean be embedded quotes. TIA.

 

[The Big Guy]

The store where the original shoplifting happened was also looted. For some reason the looting of a liquor store makes me laugh a little, but not as much as the weaves being stolen.

 

[jon_mx]

The USA Today big headline is the Ferguson is Burning.

 

[Brady Marino]

Jonmx> when multiple quotes are in a post, making posts look like pyramids on mobile devices.