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It could have been anything which caused it - ##### slap from Brown, Wilson getting pulled into the doorframe when Brown pulled away, tons of different scenarios. I feel safe in saying that we should rule out Wilson slipping on a bar of soap though.
Was not even close to the point. if you are going to get a hair up your ### and start riots and looting, you ought to know that there was actually a major injustice that occurred and not some trumped up story devoid of any facts spun up by the media to stir up outrage and violence. The biggest outrage of these stories, such as this and Zimmerman, should be against all the wildass speculation which occurred in the media by the white guilt/race-baiting talking heads. The stories which came up in the first few days were completely off of what the truth was.
Jesus. You claim you hate when someone does this ####, yet you do it all of the time. It's Timpocrisies™ like this that bother people the most.
How about total disregard for someone's personal well-being. That would likely indicate either a narcissistic personality or someone with low self-esteem. One pointing to a feeling of invulnerability and the other a disregard for one's own life. How's that for stretching the bar? haha
With the interracial aspect of the Brown-Wilson incident being a major motivating factor for the protests and riots, based on interracial crime statistics your statement is correct.
No kidding. Tim has the biggest hissy fit if FoxNews reports anything wrong, especially if it concerns his dear leader, out of some unfounded fear that rednecks will resort to violence. But Tim has no problem when His media gets stories completely wrong which leads to actual riots and violence. I can not see how anyone can take complete opposite positions with a straight face.
Yes, there has been no official account - there is just the "story" or whatever you want to call it from the other side. I think you got my point, Tim. This account in no way contradicts the other side.
Tim must see a lot of the hated white people on cnn looting and rioting often it seems....
not the same as what you did, but here's a hint: when I start comparing you to my wife, there's a bit of sarcasm involved. As there is here.
WTF? Way to make assumptions, none of which are true.
It's exactly the same thing! You took what he said and turned the dial to 11 on it. The fact that you can't see that is funny. Not ha ha funny. More like odd funny.
i think you should come out and just say that black people are savages. Why #### around with examples and hints?
He is right and it's another example of you not understanding how you are viewed here based on your actions.
the difference is he says it all the time. You were responding to one comment. I was responding to a large group of comments, of which this is the latest.
I understand. Me too. And I give my benefit of the doubt in this instance to the guy who's not a member of a clearly out of control police force with very messed up rules about police use of force and investigations thereto.
according to you, anybody who attacks me at anytime is right. It's practically the only time you post.
Primarily because the guy had a weapon and was advancing on officers. I'm sad about it. I wish the police had handled it differently. But I don't think it's a crazy reaction to a guy coming at you with a knife.
Instead of the guy who specifically I have seen on video was clearly out of control in regards to laws and rules in the store when he robbed the place and assaulted the store owner. You're lumping this one cop, who we know next to nothing about, in with other cops who have issues. That I do have an issue with. As you know, I'm an insurance agent, are you going to group me in with the agents who have shady practices? Aren't you an attorney? Should I group you in with all the ambulance chasers?
Are you kidding me?? I'm horrified. Two police officers, equipped with tasers and pepper spray, kill a mentally disturbed man in cold blood within SECONDS of showing up. They don't assess the situation or try and figure out the best course. And two shots were fired at the man AFTER he was on the ground, incapacitated, and probably near death. Watch the shooting video again. And again. And again. And then watch the video of the PR man describing how it went down.Henry Ford said:
Have an issue with whatever you want to. He stayed on that messed up force for six years.matttyl said:
You've been beaten down by the wacko conservative apologists on this board. This was an unacceptable killing.
I haven't been beaten down by anyone. I think you'll see I don't always rail against the use of force if you look into the Landry thread. There are a lot of scenarios where deadly force is justified, even if not absolutely necessary in hindsight, and we shouldn't be setting police up to second guess themselves every time someone comes at them with a weapon and refuses to obey basic commands like "drop the weapon" or "stay back."
We don't have all the data in yet. We don't know that Brown beat the snot out of Wilson (although I think Wilson was more likely to have suffered the fractured orbital bone at the hands of Brown than by the car door) and he surely wasn't beating the snot out of Brown when he put Brown down between 3 and 35 feet away. The primary question is, was Brown running toward Wilson to snot beat him or, was he standing in a submissive, hands-up position.boots11234 said:
Did you watch the video? A half dozen onlookers were there laughing, milling about near the man. These ordinary unarmed citizens did not feal threatened or that their lives were in danger. Any one of us fat couch serfers, with a can of mace or a tazer (and a buddy next to you also armed with mace and taser), could have dealt with this man without killing him, or shooting him while he was lying on the ground bleeding to death.
By the way, has there been any official confirmation from anyone about that fractured orbital bone? Or is it the "unnamed sources" thing still?
Sure it does, but again I'm not going to lump each and every one of them in with having been partial to those practices. Enron was a crafty place - were all of it's employees horrible people, too?
But the police didn't have a chance to see any of that. They showed up to a call with a report of a weapon. Someone was concerned enough to call the police. And then they saw the subject of the call with a weapon advancing toward them.
No. It could have been a perceived struggle. If the door did in fact bounce off of Brown back into Wilson and Wilson thought Brown initiated it, grabbed Brown and tried to restrain Brown and during this, he pulled his gun and shot at Brown, it wouldn't have been a struggle initiated by Brown. I'd love to hear the "solid proof" though.SaintsInDome2006 said:
So thing that happened after the incident are prevalent to the situation, but what Brown did before it doesn't matter? Got it.
No, but there's a big financial reporting problem at a place I'm investigating, and there are two accountants involved, and one of them used to work at Enron... guess which one I first think might be the problem?
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You are out of your damn mind. If there is no outrage when there is clear video evidence that a police officer unnecessarily shot and killed a man, there will be no outrage when there is no video evidence and conflicting eyewitness testimony and police who will lie to excuse their actions.
