Looting in Missouri after cops shoot 18 year old (2 Viewers)

[Bucky86]

I used to live in California, remember the time the guy stole the tank and tried to run over people.

There is a line already on cop armaments, I remember hearing the recording of the call from the cops to the SWAT team their response "We do not have anti tank capabilities."

An RPG should be standard issue in all police cars.

 

[drummer]

I just reenacted the "Brown charging from 20 feet" scenario with my 11 year old armed with an air soft semi auto, he gleefully accepted the assignment, the first time he was able to get off only one shot and winged me on the leg, the second time I ran in with a little zig zag movement and he missed both shots.

20 feet is real close, 30 wouldn't be much different. You just can't pull a trigger fast enough because the distance is closed in a little over a second, a quarter second or more of which is lost in reaction time. There is no guarantee you can stop an attacker with a handgun from those distances. Imagine trying to stop a 300 pound grizzly bear or 300 pound anything charging from 20 feet with a handgun, the odds aren't good.

Told ya

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szcviFDt9xM

 

[Sweet J]

I just reenacted the "Brown charging from 20 feet" scenario with my 11 year old armed with an air soft semi auto, he gleefully accepted the assignment, the first time he was able to get off only one shot and winged me on the leg, the second time I ran in with a little zig zag movement and he missed both shots.

20 feet is real close, 30 wouldn't be much different. You just can't pull a trigger fast enough because the distance is closed in a little over a second, a quarter second or more of which is lost in reaction time. There is no guarantee you can stop an attacker with a handgun from those distances. Imagine trying to stop a 300 pound grizzly bear or 300 pound anything charging from 20 feet with a handgun, the odds aren't good.

Apropos of nothing, but I am absolutely trying this with my 13 year old son and 11 year old daughter when I get home tonight. We don't have airsoft (to bad), but we do have a NUMBER of semi-automotic Nerf guns (maybe even an automatic or two). Which may work better, because the big bullets cut down on the "you didn't hit me--I totally hit you" arguments.

 

[Sweet J]

Officer safety is way overblown imo - last year 2 officers died via stabbing, no other deaths resulted from physical assaults. So the likelihood of actual death by beating is exaggerated in an effort to allow police officers free reign to kill civilians.

One officer trying to corral two jaywalking suspects probably needs better training or a better approach imo.

Indeed.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Thank you Jon Stewart.

 

[TPW]

Meatwad and TPW wondering "why don't these guys ever speak out against black on black crime?"

http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20131011/austin/al-sharpton-rent-west-side-apartment-highlight-gun-violence

To be fair, Drudge and Fox News didn't pick it up so how would they know?

I just now saw the above post.

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/Felsenthal-Files/April-2014/Where-Have-You-Been-Al-Sharpton-Chicago-Turns-Its-Frightened-Eyes-to-You/

A cynical person might think that Sharpton was looking to time the drama of his Chicago presence with the publication of his book, The Rejected Stone: Al Sharpton and the Path to American Leadership, published in October 2013.

My email to Rev. Sharpton sent Monday via his spokesman Jacky Johnson went unanswered. A followup email brought the following: “We are starting our convention tomorrow and Rev. Sharpton is not able to do other interviews at the moment. Could you follow up with me next week?” (I’ll do that and will add to this post any response.) Among several questions I asked Johnson in that email is “When does he plan to next be in Chicago and what does he have on his agenda for that trip?”

Sharpton’s friend and supporter—and my own congressman—Danny Davis, who never fails to call me back, did not respond to my message about Sharpton left with Davis’s scheduler in Washington.

Calls to the Rev. Hatch and to the Rev. Acree, both publicly supporting Sharpton in his Chicago plans, were not returned.

Mitchell who covered Sharpton’s Chicago plans in three excellent columns, answered my question about Sharpton in an email yesterday. “As far as I know Al Sharpton is back in New York. I’m pretty sure he is no longer renting the West Side apartment, but you should confirm that with the Rev. Marshall Hatch, pastor of Pilgrim Baptist Church.”

You guys keep right on slurping up spoonful after spoonful of BS you are fed by charlatans like Al Sharpton. I guess the Drudge Report and Fox News make people like me too stupid to be repeatedly taken in by such sophisticated scams.

 

[Sand]

Guys I'm not sure why we're wasting our time in here...

Firearms and Ballistics Expert Timschochet PI is all over this case and has all the facts. It's only a matter of time before he's vindicated with a Murder 2 conviction of Officer Wilson.

MIght as well SHUT IT DOWN!

You (and several others) seem to have a reading comprehension issue in this thread. I will be vindicated with Wilson's acquittal, or better yet, with the decision not to indict him.

More likely:

• Wilson is indicted, if not locally then by the feds
• They move the trial
• It goes to a more suburban (ie less "black") venue far away from the maddening crowd, greater chance Wilson gets higher % white jury
• The feds tack on civil rights charges
• Wilson is acquitted or gets hung jury on murder/manslaughter charges
• But Wilson gets convicted on civil rights violations

I haven't heard anything lately - is there anything that has been reported that indicates that civil rights were violated? Anything at all to indicate that this incident between Brown and Wilson had any racial component whatsoever?

 

[drummer]

Meatwad and TPW wondering "why don't these guys ever speak out against black on black crime?"

http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20131011/austin/al-sharpton-rent-west-side-apartment-highlight-gun-violence

To be fair, Drudge and Fox News didn't pick it up so how would they know?

I just now saw the above post.

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/Felsenthal-Files/April-2014/Where-Have-You-Been-Al-Sharpton-Chicago-Turns-Its-Frightened-Eyes-to-You/

A cynical person might think that Sharpton was looking to time the drama of his Chicago presence with the publication of his book, The Rejected Stone: Al Sharpton and the Path to American Leadership, published in October 2013.

My email to Rev. Sharpton sent Monday via his spokesman Jacky Johnson went unanswered. A followup email brought the following: “We are starting our convention tomorrow and Rev. Sharpton is not able to do other interviews at the moment. Could you follow up with me next week?” (I’ll do that and will add to this post any response.) Among several questions I asked Johnson in that email is “When does he plan to next be in Chicago and what does he have on his agenda for that trip?”

Sharpton’s friend and supporter—and my own congressman—Danny Davis, who never fails to call me back, did not respond to my message about Sharpton left with Davis’s scheduler in Washington.

Calls to the Rev. Hatch and to the Rev. Acree, both publicly supporting Sharpton in his Chicago plans, were not returned.

Mitchell who covered Sharpton’s Chicago plans in three excellent columns, answered my question about Sharpton in an email yesterday. “As far as I know Al Sharpton is back in New York. I’m pretty sure he is no longer renting the West Side apartment, but you should confirm that with the Rev. Marshall Hatch, pastor of Pilgrim Baptist Church.”

You guys keep right on slurping up spoonful after spoonful of BS you are fed by charlatans like Al Sharpton. I guess the Drudge Report and Fox News make people like me too stupid to be repeatedly taken in by such sophisticated scams.

What the hell brought this diatribe up? Is this tim's doing?

 

[timschochet]

Meatwad and TPW wondering "why don't these guys ever speak out against black on black crime?"

http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20131011/austin/al-sharpton-rent-west-side-apartment-highlight-gun-violence

To be fair, Drudge and Fox News didn't pick it up so how would they know?

I just now saw the above post.

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/Felsenthal-Files/April-2014/Where-Have-You-Been-Al-Sharpton-Chicago-Turns-Its-Frightened-Eyes-to-You/

A cynical person might think that Sharpton was looking to time the drama of his Chicago presence with the publication of his book, The Rejected Stone: Al Sharpton and the Path to American Leadership, published in October 2013.

My email to Rev. Sharpton sent Monday via his spokesman Jacky Johnson went unanswered. A followup email brought the following: We are starting our convention tomorrow and Rev. Sharpton is not able to do other interviews at the moment. Could you follow up with me next week? (Ill do that and will add to this post any response.) Among several questions I asked Johnson in that email is When does he plan to next be in Chicago and what does he have on his agenda for that trip?

Sharptons friend and supporterand my own congressmanDanny Davis, who never fails to call me back, did not respond to my message about Sharpton left with Daviss scheduler in Washington.

Calls to the Rev. Hatch and to the Rev. Acree, both publicly supporting Sharpton in his Chicago plans, were not returned.

Mitchell who covered Sharptons Chicago plans in three excellent columns, answered my question about Sharpton in an email yesterday. As far as I know Al Sharpton is back in New York. Im pretty sure he is no longer renting the West Side apartment, but you should confirm that with the Rev. Marshall Hatch, pastor of Pilgrim Baptist Church.

You guys keep right on slurping up spoonful after spoonful of BS you are fed by charlatans like Al Sharpton. I guess the Drudge Report and Fox News make people like me too stupid to be repeatedly taken in by such sophisticated scams.

What the hell brought this diatribe up? Is this tim's doing?

please don't ever blame me for TPW's nonsense.

 

[TPW]

Meatwad and TPW wondering "why don't these guys ever speak out against black on black crime?"

http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20131011/austin/al-sharpton-rent-west-side-apartment-highlight-gun-violence

To be fair, Drudge and Fox News didn't pick it up so how would they know?

I just now saw the above post.

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/Felsenthal-Files/April-2014/Where-Have-You-Been-Al-Sharpton-Chicago-Turns-Its-Frightened-Eyes-to-You/

A cynical person might think that Sharpton was looking to time the drama of his Chicago presence with the publication of his book, The Rejected Stone: Al Sharpton and the Path to American Leadership, published in October 2013.

My email to Rev. Sharpton sent Monday via his spokesman Jacky Johnson went unanswered. A followup email brought the following: We are starting our convention tomorrow and Rev. Sharpton is not able to do other interviews at the moment. Could you follow up with me next week? (Ill do that and will add to this post any response.) Among several questions I asked Johnson in that email is When does he plan to next be in Chicago and what does he have on his agenda for that trip?

Sharptons friend and supporterand my own congressmanDanny Davis, who never fails to call me back, did not respond to my message about Sharpton left with Daviss scheduler in Washington.

Calls to the Rev. Hatch and to the Rev. Acree, both publicly supporting Sharpton in his Chicago plans, were not returned.

Mitchell who covered Sharptons Chicago plans in three excellent columns, answered my question about Sharpton in an email yesterday. As far as I know Al Sharpton is back in New York. Im pretty sure he is no longer renting the West Side apartment, but you should confirm that with the Rev. Marshall Hatch, pastor of Pilgrim Baptist Church.

You guys keep right on slurping up spoonful after spoonful of BS you are fed by charlatans like Al Sharpton. I guess the Drudge Report and Fox News make people like me too stupid to be repeatedly taken in by such sophisticated scams.

What the hell brought this diatribe up? Is this tim's doing?

please don't ever blame me for TPW's nonsense.

You guys collectively called me out for not acknowledging Sharpton's supposed work in dealing with gun violence while claiming that I don't know any better because I only follow limited news outlets. I then responded by showing Sharpton's supposed efforts to be utterly fraudulent.

And I'm the one speaking nonsense? The worm really has turned in this country.

 

[Yenrub]

Meatwad and TPW wondering "why don't these guys ever speak out against black on black crime?"

http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20131011/austin/al-sharpton-rent-west-side-apartment-highlight-gun-violence

To be fair, Drudge and Fox News didn't pick it up so how would they know?

I just now saw the above post.

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/Felsenthal-Files/April-2014/Where-Have-You-Been-Al-Sharpton-Chicago-Turns-Its-Frightened-Eyes-to-You/

A cynical person might think that Sharpton was looking to time the drama of his Chicago presence with the publication of his book, The Rejected Stone: Al Sharpton and the Path to American Leadership, published in October 2013.

My email to Rev. Sharpton sent Monday via his spokesman Jacky Johnson went unanswered. A followup email brought the following: We are starting our convention tomorrow and Rev. Sharpton is not able to do other interviews at the moment. Could you follow up with me next week? (Ill do that and will add to this post any response.) Among several questions I asked Johnson in that email is When does he plan to next be in Chicago and what does he have on his agenda for that trip?

Sharptons friend and supporterand my own congressmanDanny Davis, who never fails to call me back, did not respond to my message about Sharpton left with Daviss scheduler in Washington.

Calls to the Rev. Hatch and to the Rev. Acree, both publicly supporting Sharpton in his Chicago plans, were not returned.

Mitchell who covered Sharptons Chicago plans in three excellent columns, answered my question about Sharpton in an email yesterday. As far as I know Al Sharpton is back in New York. Im pretty sure he is no longer renting the West Side apartment, but you should confirm that with the Rev. Marshall Hatch, pastor of Pilgrim Baptist Church.

You guys keep right on slurping up spoonful after spoonful of BS you are fed by charlatans like Al Sharpton. I guess the Drudge Report and Fox News make people like me too stupid to be repeatedly taken in by such sophisticated scams.

What the hell brought this diatribe up? Is this tim's doing?

please don't ever blame me for TPW's nonsense.

You guys collectively called me out for not acknowledging Sharpton's supposed work in dealing with gun violence while claiming that I don't know any better because I only follow limited news outlets. I then responded by showing Sharpton's supposed efforts to be utterly fraudulent.

And I'm the one speaking nonsense? The worm really has turned in this country.

http://abc7chicago.com/archive/9366942/

 

[TPW]

http://abc7chicago.com/archive/9366942/

Your link: December 19, 2013

My link: April 9, 2014

Obviously Al didn't stick around very long.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Serious question:

What's the significance of the recording of shots? What does that prove?

 

[Doug B]

Serious question:

What's the significance of the recording of shots? What does that prove?

It'll be part of the forensics, but alone .. the audio establishes nothing.

To me, it's potentially significant that there is a pause in the volley of shots. But again, that fact alone means little. Just another piece of the puzzle.

 

[Yenrub]

http://abc7chicago.com/archive/9366942/

Your link: December 19, 2013

My link: April 9, 2014

Obviously Al didn't stick around very long.

I believe that the original remark was he NEVER spoke out against the black on black crimes in Chicago

The link shows that he actually did

He didn’t stick to the plan that he mentioned in December which is disappointing but the narrative that he NEVER speaks up or shows up isn't true

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Serious question:

What's the significance of the recording of shots? What does that prove?

It'll be part of the forensics, but alone .. the audio establishes nothing.

To me, it's potentially significant that there is a pause in the volley of shots. But again, that fact alone means little. Just another piece of the puzzle.

it helps corroborate the witness statements regarding the series of gunshots which adds to there collective credibility

 

[BustedKnuckles]

A new audio recording that allegedly captures a series of gunshots at the time of Michael Brown’s death in Ferguson, Missouri, has been confirmed to be real by the developers behind the software used to capture it.

The 12-second audio clip first came to light on CNN earlier this week, and features a man chatting with a friend of his using a video-recording messenger system called Glide. As the unnamed individual records his message, a string of gunfire can be heard in the background. Numerous gunshots can be heard before the action is broken up with a pause. Shortly afterwards, though, another barrage of shots occurs.

At least 10 gunshots total can be heard during the recording, which Glide certified as being captured at 12:02 pm on Saturday, August 9th. This is the same time that 18-year-old Brown, an unarmed black teenager, was shot and killed by Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson.

 

[Doug B]

it helps corroborate the witness statements regarding the series of gunshots which adds to there collective credibility

Granted -- that is why I was emphasizing the "alone" part in my post to Sheik. The audio alone, without any witness statements or other evidence (esp forensics), establishes little.

 

[TheIronSheik]

it helps corroborate the witness statements regarding the series of gunshots which adds to there collective credibility

Granted -- that is why I was emphasizing the "alone" part in my post to Sheik. The audio alone, without any witness statements or other evidence (esp forensics), establishes little.

Which witness statement? I feel like everything is starting to run together.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Guys I'm not sure why we're wasting our time in here...

Firearms and Ballistics Expert Timschochet PI is all over this case and has all the facts. It's only a matter of time before he's vindicated with a Murder 2 conviction of Officer Wilson.

MIght as well SHUT IT DOWN!

You (and several others) seem to have a reading comprehension issue in this thread. I will be vindicated with Wilson's acquittal, or better yet, with the decision not to indict him.

More likely:

• Wilson is indicted, if not locally then by the feds
• They move the trial
• It goes to a more suburban (ie less "black") venue far away from the maddening crowd, greater chance Wilson gets higher % white jury
• The feds tack on civil rights charges
• Wilson is acquitted or gets hung jury on murder/manslaughter charges
• But Wilson gets convicted on civil rights violations

I haven't heard anything lately - is there anything that has been reported that indicates that civil rights were violated? Anything at all to indicate that this incident between Brown and Wilson had any racial component whatsoever?

White guy kills a black guy, for jaywalking? I imagine a federal prosecutor could make a civil rights violation out of that.

 

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A new audio recording that allegedly captures a series of gunshots at the time of Michael Brown’s death in Ferguson, Missouri, has been confirmed to be real by the developers behind the software used to capture it.

The 12-second audio clip first came to light on CNN earlier this week, and features a man chatting with a friend of his using a video-recording messenger system called Glide. As the unnamed individual records his message, a string of gunfire can be heard in the background. Numerous gunshots can be heard before the action is broken up with a pause. Shortly afterwards, though, another barrage of shots occurs.

At least 10 gunshots total can be heard during the recording, which Glide certified as being captured at 12:02 pm on Saturday, August 9th. This is the same time that 18-year-old Brown, an unarmed black teenager, was shot and killed by Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson.

Thanks for sharing this breaking news!

 

[avoiding injuries]

it helps corroborate the witness statements regarding the series of gunshots which adds to there collective credibility

Granted -- that is why I was emphasizing the "alone" part in my post to Sheik. The audio alone, without any witness statements or other evidence (esp forensics), establishes little.

Which witness statement? I feel like everything is starting to run together.

The only thing running was Michael Brown toward this cop.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

A new audio recording that allegedly captures a series of gunshots at the time of Michael Brown’s death in Ferguson, Missouri, has been confirmed to be real by the developers behind the software used to capture it.

The 12-second audio clip first came to light on CNN earlier this week, and features a man chatting with a friend of his using a video-recording messenger system called Glide. As the unnamed individual records his message, a string of gunfire can be heard in the background. Numerous gunshots can be heard before the action is broken up with a pause. Shortly afterwards, though, another barrage of shots occurs.

At least 10 gunshots total can be heard during the recording, which Glide certified as being captured at 12:02 pm on Saturday, August 9th. This is the same time that 18-year-old Brown, an unarmed black teenager, was shot and killed by Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson.

Thanks for sharing this breaking news!

NOT MY FAULT THAT IS HOW IT WAS PASTED .....DO YOU FORGIVE ME ??????

 

[BustedKnuckles]

it helps corroborate the witness statements regarding the series of gunshots which adds to there collective credibility

Granted -- that is why I was emphasizing the "alone" part in my post to Sheik. The audio alone, without any witness statements or other evidence (esp forensics), establishes little.

Which witness statement? I feel like everything is starting to run together.

All the statements that were made from people who were on the scene

 

[Sinn Fein]

My Link

 

[TheIronSheik]

it helps corroborate the witness statements regarding the series of gunshots which adds to there collective credibility

Granted -- that is why I was emphasizing the "alone" part in my post to Sheik. The audio alone, without any witness statements or other evidence (esp forensics), establishes little.

Which witness statement? I feel like everything is starting to run together.

All the statements that were made from people who were on the scene

OK. But weren't there conflicting statements? Again, I'm being serious.

 

[rick6668]

it helps corroborate the witness statements regarding the series of gunshots which adds to there collective credibility

Granted -- that is why I was emphasizing the "alone" part in my post to Sheik. The audio alone, without any witness statements or other evidence (esp forensics), establishes little.

Which witness statement? I feel like everything is starting to run together.

All the statements I choose to believe that were made from people who were on the scene

 

[Jim11]

Mr. Brown's resume.

http://libertyunyielding.com/2014/08/29/fergusons-michael-brown-allegedly-involved-murder-juvenile/

Michael Brown, the the black, 18-year-old described as a “gentle giant” who was shot and killed by a Ferguson, Mo. police officer, reportedly took part in a second degree murder while he was a juvenile, according to a freelance journalist.

http://gotnews.com/michaelbrown-choose-attend-st-louiss-violent-school-ferguson/

Michael Brown attended one of the most violent high schools in all of St. Louis and, if the New York Times is to believed, he made that choice voluntarily.

 

[drummer]

Here we go!

 

[Jim11]

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2014/08/29/cnn-four-days-ferguson-recording?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Day Four: CNN Still Hasn't Verified the Ferguson Shooting Audio

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Mr. Brown's resume.

http://libertyunyielding.com/2014/08/29/fergusons-michael-brown-allegedly-involved-murder-juvenile/

Michael Brown, the the black, 18-year-old described as a “gentle giant” who was shot and killed by a Ferguson, Mo. police officer, reportedly took part in a second degree murder while he was a juvenile, according to a freelance journalist.

http://gotnews.com/michaelbrown-choose-attend-st-louiss-violent-school-ferguson/

Michael Brown attended one of the most violent high schools in all of St. Louis and, if the New York Times is to believed, he made that choice voluntarily.

you sure are working overtime to justify this killing

 

[jonessed]

Mr. Brown's resume.

http://libertyunyielding.com/2014/08/29/fergusons-michael-brown-allegedly-involved-murder-juvenile/

Michael Brown, the the black, 18-year-old described as a gentle giant who was shot and killed by a Ferguson, Mo. police officer, reportedly took part in a second degree murder while he was a juvenile, according to a freelance journalist.

http://gotnews.com/michaelbrown-choose-attend-st-louiss-violent-school-ferguson/

Michael Brown attended one of the most violent high schools in all of St. Louis and, if the New York Times is to believed, he made that choice voluntarily.

you sure are working overtime to justify this killing

The first article, if accurate, definitely seems like pertinent information.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Mr. Brown's resume.

http://libertyunyielding.com/2014/08/29/fergusons-michael-brown-allegedly-involved-murder-juvenile/

Michael Brown, the the black, 18-year-old described as a gentle giant who was shot and killed by a Ferguson, Mo. police officer, reportedly took part in a second degree murder while he was a juvenile, according to a freelance journalist.

http://gotnews.com/michaelbrown-choose-attend-st-louiss-violent-school-ferguson/

Michael Brown attended one of the most violent high schools in all of St. Louis and, if the New York Times is to believed, he made that choice voluntarily.

you sure are working overtime to justify this killing

The first article, if accurate, definitely seems like pertinent information.

and there was also a criminal record of a guy with the same name floating around ....but the age was a year different.

 

[jonessed]

Mr. Brown's resume.

http://libertyunyielding.com/2014/08/29/fergusons-michael-brown-allegedly-involved-murder-juvenile/

Michael Brown, the the black, 18-year-old described as a gentle giant who was shot and killed by a Ferguson, Mo. police officer, reportedly took part in a second degree murder while he was a juvenile, according to a freelance journalist.

http://gotnews.com/michaelbrown-choose-attend-st-louiss-violent-school-ferguson/

Michael Brown attended one of the most violent high schools in all of St. Louis and, if the New York Times is to believed, he made that choice voluntarily.

you sure are working overtime to justify this killing

The first article, if accurate, definitely seems like pertinent information.

and there was also a fake criminal record of a guy with the same name floating around ....but the age was a year different.

Certainly could be fake. I imagine there's all kinds of information floating around out there. There was an article posted earlier talking about a second gunman.

I don't see the problem with posting any of it though. If people were only allowed to post verified information this thread would be a few pages.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

it helps corroborate the witness statements regarding the series of gunshots which adds to there collective credibility

Granted -- that is why I was emphasizing the "alone" part in my post to Sheik. The audio alone, without any witness statements or other evidence (esp forensics), establishes little.

Which witness statement? I feel like everything is starting to run together.

All the statements I choose to believe that were made from people who were on the scene

So you`re saying these eye witnesses are all lying?

Eye Witness accounts common ground. (Wilson left his vehicle and pursued them. He fired at least six shots, fatally wounding Brown. Brown died approximately 35 feet from the police cruiser)

Dorian Johnson....Following the initial gunshot, Johnson stated that Brown was able to free himself, at which point the two fled. Wilson exited the vehicle, after which he fired a second shot, striking Brown in the back, according to Johnson. At that point, according to Johnson, Brown turned around with his hands in the air and said, "I don't have a gun. Stop shooting!" Wilson then shot Brown several more times, killing him

James McKnight....James McKnight said he witnessed the shooting and that Brown held his hands in the air just after he turned to face Wilson. "I saw him stumble toward the officer, but not rush at him. The officer was about six or seven feet away from him," McKnight said

Michael Brady.... Brown started running suddenly; he did not hear a gunshot or see what caused them to run. He also said he saw Wilson get out of the patrol car and "start walking briskly while firing on Brown as he fled". Brady then ran outside with his camera phone to record the event. By the time he got outside, Brown had turned around and was facing Wilson. Brown was "balled up" with his arms under his stomach and he was "halfway down" to the ground. As he was falling, Brown took one or two steps toward Wilson because he was presumably hit and was stumbling forward; Wilson then shot him three or four times

Piaget Crenshaw..... Wilson then chased Brown for about 20 feet before shooting him again. Crenshaw stated, "I saw the police chase him ... down the street and shoot him down." She added that when Brown then raised his arms, the officer shot him two more times, killing him.

Tiffany Mitchell.... After the first shot was fired, she said, Brown started to run away. "After the shot, the kid just breaks away. The cop follows him, kept shooting, the kid's body jerked as if he was hit. After his body jerked he turns around, puts his hands up, and the cop continues to walk up on him and continues to shoot until he goes all the way down," she said

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Mr. Brown's resume.

http://libertyunyielding.com/2014/08/29/fergusons-michael-brown-allegedly-involved-murder-juvenile/

Michael Brown, the the black, 18-year-old described as a gentle giant who was shot and killed by a Ferguson, Mo. police officer, reportedly took part in a second degree murder while he was a juvenile, according to a freelance journalist.

http://gotnews.com/michaelbrown-choose-attend-st-louiss-violent-school-ferguson/

Michael Brown attended one of the most violent high schools in all of St. Louis and, if the New York Times is to believed, he made that choice voluntarily.

you sure are working overtime to justify this killing

The first article, if accurate, definitely seems like pertinent information.

and there was also a fake criminal record of a guy with the same name floating around ....but the age was a year different.

Certainly could be fake. I imagine there's all kinds of information floating around out there. There was an article posted earlier talking about a second gunman.

I don't see the problem with posting any of it though. If people were only allowed to post verified information this thread would be a few pages.

I dont have an issue with posting if true or not...but hes stating it as Browns resume...seems biased

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Mr. Brown's resume.

http://libertyunyielding.com/2014/08/29/fergusons-michael-brown-allegedly-involved-murder-juvenile/

Michael Brown, the the black, 18-year-old described as a “gentle giant” who was shot and killed by a Ferguson, Mo. police officer, reportedly took part in a second degree murder while he was a juvenile, according to a freelance journalist.

http://gotnews.com/michaelbrown-choose-attend-st-louiss-violent-school-ferguson/

Michael Brown attended one of the most violent high schools in all of St. Louis and, if the New York Times is to believed, he made that choice voluntarily.

Charles C. Johnson‏@ChuckCJohnson
BREAKING FROM ANOTHER COP SOURCE: #MichealBrown, #DorianJohnson were busted with assault on a hot dog vendor when they were 15. #Ferguson

This is the idiot whos starting all this murder crap....he cant even get the ages right...johnson is like 4 years older than brown...a cop is giving him this info...give it up bro

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Even so, I still contend that if the distance between them is more than 20 feet at the point that Wilson fires, and if Brown is not charging, then it's murder.

Distance from the shooter is a part of the puzzle, but I don't agree that it's the lynchpin of a potential case. Again, there are conceivable reasons to shoot at someone from ~20 feet or more. For a conjectural example: Brown, while turning around, grabs the front of his pants to hike them up so he can move quicker. Wilson interprets this as the proverbial "going for a weapon". QED.

if that was his defense I would probably lean towards conviction.

Tim...if anyone can appreciate this its you

Jon Stewart Goes After Fox in Powerful Ferguson Monologue

 

[rockaction]

Even so, I still contend that if the distance between them is more than 20 feet at the point that Wilson fires, and if Brown is not charging, then it's murder.

Distance from the shooter is a part of the puzzle, but I don't agree that it's the lynchpin of a potential case. Again, there are conceivable reasons to shoot at someone from ~20 feet or more. For a conjectural example: Brown, while turning around, grabs the front of his pants to hike them up so he can move quicker. Wilson interprets this as the proverbial "going for a weapon". QED.

if that was his defense I would probably lean towards conviction.

Tim...if anyone can appreciate this its you

Jon Stewart Goes After Fox in Powerful Ferguson Monologue

I get a thrill down my leg every time Jon Stewart feels impelled to take his clown nose off long enough to deliver a "powerful" monologue against an established right-wing media outlet.

Just...so brave.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Even so, I still contend that if the distance between them is more than 20 feet at the point that Wilson fires, and if Brown is not charging, then it's murder.

Distance from the shooter is a part of the puzzle, but I don't agree that it's the lynchpin of a potential case. Again, there are conceivable reasons to shoot at someone from ~20 feet or more. For a conjectural example: Brown, while turning around, grabs the front of his pants to hike them up so he can move quicker. Wilson interprets this as the proverbial "going for a weapon". QED.

if that was his defense I would probably lean towards conviction.

Tim...if anyone can appreciate this its you

Jon Stewart Goes After Fox in Powerful Ferguson Monologue

I get a thrill down my leg every time Jon Stewart feels impelled to take his clown nose off long enough to deliver a "powerful" monologue against an established right-wing media outlet.

Just...so brave.

Right

 

[Tchula]

http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/police-shoot-18-year-old-kansas-man-16-times-media-ignores-story-because-hes And yet again another unarmed white teen is killed by cops and it fails to make the national news. Anyone see a pattern yet?

 

[BustedKnuckles]

http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/police-shoot-18-year-old-kansas-man-16-times-media-ignores-story-because-hes And yet again another unarmed white teen is killed by cops and it fails to make the national news. Anyone see a pattern yet?

Jennings survived, and was released from the hospital two days later. But only three hours after that, he was on a “suicide mission” when he walked to Orscheln Farm and Home, according to his aunt.

Smith recalled that around six officers responded, and two of them had helped save Jennings’ life by taking him to the hospital after his overdose just days before.

“It was like six — six officers, and one cop yelled, ‘Bag him!’ And they bagged him,” she said. “And he kind of puffed up a little bit, and then they bagged him two more times, and then like 16 shots rang out, and they shot him. And he fell to the ground.”

 

[Ghost Rider]

Even so, I still contend that if the distance between them is more than 20 feet at the point that Wilson fires, and if Brown is not charging, then it's murder.

Distance from the shooter is a part of the puzzle, but I don't agree that it's the lynchpin of a potential case. Again, there are conceivable reasons to shoot at someone from ~20 feet or more. For a conjectural example: Brown, while turning around, grabs the front of his pants to hike them up so he can move quicker. Wilson interprets this as the proverbial "going for a weapon". QED.

if that was his defense I would probably lean towards conviction.

Tim...if anyone can appreciate this its you

Jon Stewart Goes After Fox in Powerful Ferguson Monologue

Jon Stewart: awesome as always.

And, man, Sean Hannity is still a f'ing d-bag.

 

[Henry Ford]

ShotSpotter used on the alleged shooting audio:

While the company cannot verify the authenticity of the recording, Clark said it would be able to do if it were given the precise location of the shooting and the recording. His company can calculate the movement of the sound waves and confirm whether the recording was made in that location relative to the shooting, he said. At this time, the location of the recording has not been revealed, nor the precise location of the shooting that took place Aug. 9. The messaging software that captured the gunshot sounds in the background has verified that the recording was made at the time of the shooting.Clark said the company confirmed that the sound on the recording is gunshots. His company specializes in distinguishing gunshot sounds from other noises like fireworks and car backfires. In addition, Clark said they could determine that the recording has 10 shots and then seven sounds that are echoes.

Clark said the recording has a three-second pause after the first six shots before the final four shots. His experts were also able to confirm that the shots were all taken from within a three-foot radius – there was only one shooter and that person was not moving.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/09/02/acoustic-experts-detail-purported-ferguson-shooting/

 

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Oregon, August 2013

VIDEO : Young Black man with 3 children in car needlessly gunned down by blood thirsty law enforcement.

Such reckless abuse of lethal force by law enforcement.... When will the madness stop?

TIM: "Officer should have bought him a beer and offered to talk about his day"

 

[Henry Ford]

Oregon, August 2013

VIDEO : Young Black man with 3 children in car needlessly gunned down by blood thirsty law enforcement.

Such reckless abuse of lethal force by law enforcement.... When will the madness stop?

TIM: "Officer should have bought him a beer and offered to talk about his day"

I'm sure this incident was fresh in the officer's mind as a possibility, and that's why he fired. The circumstances are so very similar.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Oregon, August 2013

VIDEO : Young Black man with 3 children in car needlessly gunned down by blood thirsty law enforcement.

Such reckless abuse of lethal force by law enforcement.... When will the madness stop?

TIM: "Officer should have bought him a beer and offered to talk about his day"

Are you nutz? what point are you making that anyone with one brain cell doesnt already know? What does this shooting have to do with a guy getting shot while unarmed?

 

[timschochet]

Oregon, August 2013

VIDEO : Young Black man with 3 children in car needlessly gunned down by blood thirsty law enforcement.

Such reckless abuse of lethal force by law enforcement.... When will the madness stop?

TIM: "Officer should have bought him a beer and offered to talk about his day"

Are you nutz? what point are you making that anyone with one brain cell doesnt already know? What does this shooting have to do with a guy getting shot while unarmed?

and why was I bought into it?

 

[Politician Spock]

Oregon, August 2013

VIDEO : Young Black man with 3 children in car needlessly gunned down by blood thirsty law enforcement.

Such reckless abuse of lethal force by law enforcement.... When will the madness stop?

TIM: "Officer should have bought him a beer and offered to talk about his day"

Are you nutz? what point are you making that anyone with one brain cell doesnt already know? What does this shooting have to do with a guy getting shot while unarmed?

and why was I bought into it?

Karma.

 

[parasaurolophus]

Oregon, August 2013

VIDEO : Young Black man with 3 children in car needlessly gunned down by blood thirsty law enforcement.

Such reckless abuse of lethal force by law enforcement.... When will the madness stop?

TIM: "Officer should have bought him a beer and offered to talk about his day"

Are you nutz? what point are you making that anyone with one brain cell doesnt already know? What does this shooting have to do with a guy getting shot while unarmed?

and why was I bought into it?

he just saved you the trouble