Looting in Missouri after cops shoot 18 year old (1 Viewer)

[Abraham]

Sums it up

I prefer gifs that sum up complex socioeconomic and racial issues better than images.

What's complex about this?

 

[fantasycurse42]

He was presenting the evidence bc the people wanted it. He was doing all he could to calm the crowd, kinda the point of his 30 minute monologue. Obviously there was nothing he could say that would've been effective.... If he didn't you amongst others would be in here bashing him for that and saying this whole process has been cloaked.

Stop pretending you know what I think or what I would say in response to this or that. TIA.

What would you have said if he just came up and said "no indictment, have a nice day"???

We have already established that a 300 pounder doesn't have a physical advantage over a 200 pounder in this post here, enlighten me...

 

[Fennis]

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or horrible rush lyrics

 

[Fennis]

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I prefer gifs that sum up complex socioeconomic and racial issues better than images.

What's complex about this?

I prefer gifs that sum up complex socioeconomic and racial issues better than images.

What's complex about this?

well I would start with the fact that normally fish don't talk

 

[Godsbrother]

I went over to the Shark Pool to loot but there was nothing good so I posted a "Who Do I Start?" post.

F the man!!!!

 

[timschochet]

Good arguments were made last night as to why Wilson was not indicted , and why, had this gone to trial he wouldn't have been convicted.

But that doesn't mean that he's innocent of wrongdoing. I continue to have a feeling that Wilson could have avoided shooting Michael Brown to death and chose not to.

 

[Henry Ford]

Sorry Henry....there was no grounds for a trial here. A grand Jury came to that conclusion after reviewing everything.


That is the law, that is our system. It is not going to change. If your going to try every police officer for every time they have to shoot and kill a suspected criminal you will never have law enforcement.

They are given certain rights as officers of the law to act accordingly if circumstances present themselves that they had little to no choice to use their fire arm. We are asking men and woman to protect and serve. In order for them to do that they must have some amount of rights to defend their own lives as well.

All of the evidence pointed that this officer acted within his rights that we as tax payers give our men and woman of the police the right use. There was no evidence he abused that right to use deadly force to protect himself.

What is so hard to understand.

None of it is hard to understand. Especially if you understand the role of a prosecutor in a grand jury situation, and the difference between what happened here and the way a grand jury is usually run. I appreciate your perspective on this, but I believe it to be a simplistic and flawed understanding of the legal process and of the concept of "no evidence."

Are we implying the Grand Jury was rigged?

I'm implying that it was, at the least, handled poorly if the intention was to secure an indictment.

 

[[icon]]

Assuming the looters were coming after the shop owner and not just the property.

if an armed mob is encroaching upon me, I'm guessing I have a right to defend myself.

Yep.

 

[Slapdash]

Sorry Henry....there was no grounds for a trial here. A grand Jury came to that conclusion after reviewing everything.


That is the law, that is our system. It is not going to change. If your going to try every police officer for every time they have to shoot and kill a suspected criminal you will never have law enforcement.

They are given certain rights as officers of the law to act accordingly if circumstances present themselves that they had little to no choice to use their fire arm. We are asking men and woman to protect and serve. In order for them to do that they must have some amount of rights to defend their own lives as well.

All of the evidence pointed that this officer acted within his rights that we as tax payers give our men and woman of the police the right use. There was no evidence he abused that right to use deadly force to protect himself.

What is so hard to understand.

None of it is hard to understand. Especially if you understand the role of a prosecutor in a grand jury situation, and the difference between what happened here and the way a grand jury is usually run. I appreciate your perspective on this, but I believe it to be a simplistic and flawed understanding of the legal process and of the concept of "no evidence."

Are we implying the Grand Jury was rigged?

I'm implying that it was, at the least, handled poorly if the intention was to secure an indictment.

Why do you say that?

 

[[icon]]

I continue to have a feeling that Wilson could have avoided shooting Michael Brown to death and chose not to.

Good for you. This and 50 cents still won't get you a can of soda.

 

[timschochet]

Has anyone discussed a civil lawsuit by the Brown family against Wilson and the police force? That would seem to make sense .

 

[Henry Ford]

Don't get caught with a dime bag then. Simple.


Want me to be more sympathetic to the idea blacks are unequally targeted by cops? Start showing me examples of blacks who are doing nothing wrong yet still getting busted/harassed. In almost all of these cases we hear about, these individuals were in the process of breaking the law and/or had warrants out for previous crimes. Don't be a troublemaker and then try to cry about people are looking at you as a troublemaker.

Is "tazed and shot to death because he was looking for help after a car accident" an example?

From the article: "When they arrived, Ferrell “charged” toward them. One of the three officers tasered Ferrell. When that did not stop his “advance”, 27-year-old Officer Randall Kerrick opened fire, hitting Jonathan Ferrell ten times - initial media reports said three times - killing him at the scene."

I am not going to sit here and say that doesn't sound excessive, but (according to the story) this guy charged the cops when they responded to a call about a break-in. Easy for us to sit here much later with 20/20 hindsight and say he was acting irrationally because he had just been in a wreck and he was just looking for help. But the cops didn't have the benefit at that time. No mention of it in that particular article but I would strongly suspect the officers issued him some commands during the incident. Fail to obey commands a cop gives you and you're asking for trouble. Not saying disobeying an officer gives them the right to blast you but (again) its putting oneself in a situation where nothing good is going to come of it.

Officer Kerrick was the only policeman to take out his gun and fire, which raises questions about their description of Ferrell as “charging” towards them after being tasered. According to The Charlotte Observer, police actually said initially that Kerrick’s actions were “appropriate and lawful.” Yet the brazenness of the shooting, the absence of any evidence Ferrell was under the influence of anything other than a possible concussion, and the fact that there was really no way to spin this, meant that Kerrick was quickly arrested and charged with voluntary manslaughter. According to North Carolina law, “voluntary manslaughter” means that Kerrick acted with “imperfect self-defense.” The police statement said that “the evidence revealed that Mr. Ferrell did advance on Officer Kerrick and the investigation showed that the subsequent shooting of Mr. Ferrell was excessive. Our investigation has shown that Officer Kerrick did not have a lawful right to discharge his weapon during this encounter.”

 

[Apple Jack]

Sums it up

I prefer gifs that sum up complex socioeconomic and racial issues better than images.

or horrible rush lyrics

 

[GoBirds]

Any action today or is everyone asleep/at the pawn shop?

 

[avoiding injuries]

Saintsfool/McIntyre:

Maybe I am mistaken. But I could have sworn the prosecutor stated last night that Wilson had received the call about a suspected burglary while he was attending to a child in distress call. So, I am confused now as to what the actual sequence of events was in this situation.

He did. Once he felt he had a suspect that matched the ID of the robbery he called in for backup. But the initial contact was to tell them to stop walking in the street and get on the side walk. And then things went from there. He called in for backup after feeling he had a positive match to the description of the robbery suspects. And then boom the confrontation began.

Correct. The prosecutor laid out all of the facts and details they uncovered which were presented to the grand jury. People should probably read that transcript before they take a hard stance on the wrong side of actual events.

 

[Jackstraw]

Sums it up

I prefer gifs that sum up complex socioeconomic and racial issues better than images.

What's complex about this?

It's not. That's the problem. It assumes everyone in Ferguson is one monolithic being. They all feel the same way. They all behave the same way. The people who are protesting are the exact same people who are rioting. It's easy. It validates his feelings about the situation without having to thin to hard about it. Stuff like that.

 

[Billy Bats]

But that doesn't mean that he's innocent of wrongdoing. I continue to have a feeling that Wilson could have avoided shooting Michael Brown to death and chose not to.

Would other move would you have suggested he try?

 

[timschochet]

Any federal action is unlikely. But a civil suit makes sense for the Brown family. There would be a trial. Wilson would have to testify and be cross examined. If he wrongfully killed Michael Brown they can ruin him financially, and the Ferguson police department could be exposed as well.

 

[Henry Ford]

Sorry Henry....there was no grounds for a trial here. A grand Jury came to that conclusion after reviewing everything.


That is the law, that is our system. It is not going to change. If your going to try every police officer for every time they have to shoot and kill a suspected criminal you will never have law enforcement.

They are given certain rights as officers of the law to act accordingly if circumstances present themselves that they had little to no choice to use their fire arm. We are asking men and woman to protect and serve. In order for them to do that they must have some amount of rights to defend their own lives as well.

All of the evidence pointed that this officer acted within his rights that we as tax payers give our men and woman of the police the right use. There was no evidence he abused that right to use deadly force to protect himself.

What is so hard to understand.

None of it is hard to understand. Especially if you understand the role of a prosecutor in a grand jury situation, and the difference between what happened here and the way a grand jury is usually run. I appreciate your perspective on this, but I believe it to be a simplistic and flawed understanding of the legal process and of the concept of "no evidence."

Are we implying the Grand Jury was rigged?

I'm implying that it was, at the least, handled poorly if the intention was to secure an indictment.

Why do you say that?

For starters, the prosecutor never requested any specific charges. But there are some pieces of evidence that were placed before the grand jury that have no place except to make people take Wilson's side without actually being exculpatory for the alleged crime.

 

[matttyl]

Officer Wilson is 6'4 210 lbs, the same height as Brown, and was an armed police officer who presumably had some training in fighting/subduing suspects without the use of a weapon. Brown was just fatter than him- that's literally the only "advantage" he would have had in a fight.

Brown had 100 lbs on him, that's like a welterweight fighting a heavyweight... It is a gigantic advantage, this isn't really debatable.

Yes, I'm sure Eli Manning could take on JPP and hold up just fine.....

 

[timschochet]

But that doesn't mean that he's innocent of wrongdoing. I continue to have a feeling that Wilson could have avoided shooting Michael Brown to death and chose not to.

Would other move would you have suggested he try?

Stand there? I'm still not convinced that Brown with 3 bullets in him was charging Wilson from a distance like a terminator . There I'd much conflicting evidence about this.

 

[tdoss]

I'm heartbroken for those small-business owners who get up every day and try to make a living, and their stores are now ashes for no good reason.

It would be great if someone did a kickstarter-type fundraiser for the owner of the market and any other businesses in the area that were damaged to get them the money they need to repair and restock. We could use something that nearly everyone could get behind. I bet they could raise whatever they need in a matter of hours.

Only if they moved the store...Ferguson may as well be Chernobyl now. You give to that store and it'll be robbed almost daily and burned several more times.

 

[Sinn Fein]

I don't buy Wilson's story. I think he folds like a cheap hooker when he is deposed in the civil suit.

 

[bryhamm]

Good arguments were made last night as to why Wilson was not indicted , and why, had this gone to trial he wouldn't have been convicted.

But that doesn't mean that he's innocent of wrongdoing. I continue to have a feeling that Wilson could have avoided shooting Michael Brown to death and chose not to.

like clock work

 

[fantasycurse42]

I don't buy Wilson's story. I think he folds like a cheap hooker when he is deposed in the civil suit.

AGREE, WE SHOULD KILL HIM!!!!

 

[avoiding injuries]

I don't buy Wilson's story. I think he folds like a cheap hooker when he is deposed in the civil suit.

Just like all the eye witnesses interviewed that went against his story.

 

[jonessed]

Any federal action is unlikely. But a civil suit makes sense for the Brown family. There would be a trial. Wilson would have to testify and be cross examined. If he wrongfully killed Michael Brown they can ruin him financially, and the Ferguson police department could be exposed as well.

He was acting as a police officer. I don't see how they could ruin him financially. Any reward would come from the city.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Sorry Henry....there was no grounds for a trial here. A grand Jury came to that conclusion after reviewing everything.


That is the law, that is our system. It is not going to change. If your going to try every police officer for every time they have to shoot and kill a suspected criminal you will never have law enforcement.

They are given certain rights as officers of the law to act accordingly if circumstances present themselves that they had little to no choice to use their fire arm. We are asking men and woman to protect and serve. In order for them to do that they must have some amount of rights to defend their own lives as well.

All of the evidence pointed that this officer acted within his rights that we as tax payers give our men and woman of the police the right use. There was no evidence he abused that right to use deadly force to protect himself.

What is so hard to understand.

None of it is hard to understand. Especially if you understand the role of a prosecutor in a grand jury situation, and the difference between what happened here and the way a grand jury is usually run. I appreciate your perspective on this, but I believe it to be a simplistic and flawed understanding of the legal process and of the concept of "no evidence."

Are we implying the Grand Jury was rigged?

I'm implying that it was, at the least, handled poorly if the intention was to secure an indictment.

To piggyback on what Henry is saying, let's look at this another way.

Those of us who have defended criminal defendants, even white collar criminal defendants, have never had the luxury of a prosecutor running an "impartial and independent" grand jury proceeding. Those proceedings are designed to be one-sided presentations to determine whether there is enough evidence to satisfy the low barrier to establish probable cause. In this case, we have an unarmed teenager who was shot multiple times with several eyewitnesses testifying that he had surrendered. In any other grand jury proceeding, that would meet probable cause, regardless of whether there was compelling exculpatory evidence. The exculpatory evidence may very well have secured an acquittal, but it would not have defeated probable cause.

 

[parasaurolophus]

I keep hearing that any time a prosecutor wants an indictment he gets one. Is it possible that the prosecutor didn't actually feel one was warranted and didn't actually want one?. Sure sounds like there was zero evidence that Wilson did anything wrong. I would like to think that prosecutors have a shred of decency and don't just go after anybody involved in a shooting. Maybe there was a grand jury simply to be able to say that there was an objective look at this thing.

 

[Sinn Fein]

I don't buy Wilson's story. I think he folds like a cheap hooker when he is deposed in the civil suit.

AGREE, WE SHOULD KILL HIM!!!!

Finally, a voice of reason in a sea of rage.

 

[timschochet]

Any federal action is unlikely. But a civil suit makes sense for the Brown family. There would be a trial. Wilson would have to testify and be cross examined. If he wrongfully killed Michael Brown they can ruin him financially, and the Ferguson police department could be exposed as well.

He was acting as a police officer. I don't see how they could ruin him financially. Any reward would come from the city.

Good point, but are you sure it works that way?

 

[SIDA!]

But that doesn't mean that he's innocent of wrongdoing. I continue to have a feeling that Wilson could have avoided shooting Michael Brown to death and chose not to.

Would other move would you have suggested he try?

Stand there? I'm still not convinced that Brown with 3 bullets in him was charging Wilson from a distance like a terminator . There I'd much conflicting evidence about this.

Maybe there were hurricane force winds in Ferguson that day. When Brown was running away and got shot in the back, the wind blew his blood back into Wilson and inside his car. And then when Brown turned around and charged him, the hurricane force winds immediately shifted the opposite direction and blew Brown's blood several feet past Brown's body (and opposite the direction of Wilson). I mean, I guess it is possible.

 

[Henry Ford]

I keep hearing that any time a prosecutor wants an indictment he gets one. Is it possible that the prosecutor didn't actually feel one was warranted and didn't actually want one?. Sure sounds like there was zero evidence that Wilson did anything wrong. I would like to think that prosecutors have a shred of decency and don't just go after anybody involved in a shooting. Maybe there was a grand jury simply to be able to say that there was an objective look at this thing.

If a prosecutor who brings a charge in front of a grand jury makes it sound like there's zero evidence that a potential defendant did anything wrong, there's a massive problem.

 

[jonessed]

Sorry Henry....there was no grounds for a trial here. A grand Jury came to that conclusion after reviewing everything.

That is the law, that is our system. It is not going to change. If your going to try every police officer for every time they have to shoot and kill a suspected criminal you will never have law enforcement.

They are given certain rights as officers of the law to act accordingly if circumstances present themselves that they had little to no choice to use their fire arm. We are asking men and woman to protect and serve. In order for them to do that they must have some amount of rights to defend their own lives as well.

All of the evidence pointed that this officer acted within his rights that we as tax payers give our men and woman of the police the right use. There was no evidence he abused that right to use deadly force to protect himself.

What is so hard to understand.

None of it is hard to understand. Especially if you understand the role of a prosecutor in a grand jury situation, and the difference between what happened here and the way a grand jury is usually run. I appreciate your perspective on this, but I believe it to be a simplistic and flawed understanding of the legal process and of the concept of "no evidence."

Are we implying the Grand Jury was rigged?

I'm implying that it was, at the least, handled poorly if the intention was to secure an indictment.

To piggyback on what Henry is saying, let's look at this another way.

Those of us who have defended criminal defendants, even white collar criminal defendants, have never had the luxury of a prosecutor running an "impartial and independent" grand jury proceeding. Those proceedings are designed to be one-sided presentations to determine whether there is enough evidence to satisfy the low barrier to establish probable cause. In this case, we have an unarmed teenager who was shot multiple times with several eyewitnesses testifying that he had surrendered. In any other grand jury proceeding, that would meet probable cause, regardless of whether there was compelling exculpatory evidence. The exculpatory evidence may very well have secured an acquittal, but it would not have defeated probable cause.

My understanding was that no witnesses actually testified in front of the grand jury that he was surrendering.

 

[TobiasFunke]

He was presenting the evidence bc the people wanted it. He was doing all he could to calm the crowd, kinda the point of his 30 minute monologue. Obviously there was nothing he could say that would've been effective.... If he didn't you amongst others would be in here bashing him for that and saying this whole process has been cloaked.

Stop pretending you know what I think or what I would say in response to this or that. TIA.

What would you have said if he just came up and said "no indictment, have a nice day"???

We have already established that a 300 pounder doesn't have a physical advantage over a 200 pounder in this post here, enlighten me...

I would have probably criticized that too. His mistake was "pursuing" an indictment he had zero interest in obtaining in the first place. He should not have charged Wilson IMO. If I was in his place I would not have charged him, and I would have tried to negotiate various other initiatives to avoid similar situations in the future- dashboard cameras, advising the state legislature to revisit the lax standards for use of deadly force by police officers, etc.- and then announced that at the same time as my announcement of the decision.

Instead he used the grand jury process as political cover, turning what's usually a rubber stamp process (stats explanation on reddit I liked) into what was basically a trial, so people would be mad at "the system" instead of at him for not trying Wilson. It was an understandable move I guess, but kind of chicken####.

 

[whiskey7]

Officer Wilson is 6'4 210 lbs, the same height as Brown, and was an armed police officer who presumably had some training in fighting/subduing suspects without the use of a weapon. Brown was just fatter than him- that's literally the only "advantage" he would have had in a fight.

Brown had 100 lbs on him, that's like a welterweight fighting a heavyweight... It is a gigantic advantage, this isn't really debatable.

Yes, I'm sure Eli Manning could take on JPP and hold up just fine.....

JPP would hurt himself trying to get to Eli and Eli would miss JPP with his punches. Draw

 

[Sinn Fein]

I keep hearing that any time a prosecutor wants an indictment he gets one. Is it possible that the prosecutor didn't actually feel one was warranted and didn't actually want one?. Sure sounds like there was zero evidence that Wilson did anything wrong. I would like to think that prosecutors have a shred of decency and don't just go after anybody involved in a shooting. Maybe there was a grand jury simply to be able to say that there was an objective look at this thing.

There is no question the prosecutor did not want one here - otherwise arrest him, charge him, and see him in a probable cause hearing.

Prosecutor wanted the onus on someone else - the grand jury, and fortunately he was able to keep his hands on the scales of justice , just in case things went the wrong way.

 

[timschochet]

But that doesn't mean that he's innocent of wrongdoing. I continue to have a feeling that Wilson could have avoided shooting Michael Brown to death and chose not to.

Would other move would you have suggested he try?

Stand there? I'm still not convinced that Brown with 3 bullets in him was charging Wilson from a distance like a terminator . There I'd much conflicting evidence about this.

Maybe there were hurricane force winds in Ferguson that day. When Brown was running away and got shot in the back, the wind blew his blood back into Wilson and inside his car. And then when Brown turned around and charged him, the hurricane force winds immediately shifted the opposite direction and blew Brown's blood several feet past Brown's body (and opposite the direction of Wilson). I mean, I guess it is possible.

well this makes about as much since as everything else you've written in this thread.

 

[jonessed]

Any federal action is unlikely. But a civil suit makes sense for the Brown family. There would be a trial. Wilson would have to testify and be cross examined. If he wrongfully killed Michael Brown they can ruin him financially, and the Ferguson police department could be exposed as well.

He was acting as a police officer. I don't see how they could ruin him financially. Any reward would come from the city.

Good point, but are you sure it works that way?

I don't see how we could even have police officers any other way.

 

[the moops]

Any federal action is unlikely. But a civil suit makes sense for the Brown family. There would be a trial. Wilson would have to testify and be cross examined. If he wrongfully killed Michael Brown they can ruin him financially, and the Ferguson police department could be exposed as well.

He was acting as a police officer. I don't see how they could ruin him financially. Any reward would come from the city.

Good point, but are you sure it works that way?

Jesus effing holy #### tim

 

[Sinn Fein]

Any federal action is unlikely. But a civil suit makes sense for the Brown family. There would be a trial. Wilson would have to testify and be cross examined. If he wrongfully killed Michael Brown they can ruin him financially, and the Ferguson police department could be exposed as well.

He was acting as a police officer. I don't see how they could ruin him financially. Any reward would come from the city.

He was not acting as a police officer when he pulled out his weapon, took aim, and unloaded his clip into the decedent. He was a cold-blooded killer, who was tired of taking crap from black youths. It was time to lay down the law.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Officer Wilson is 6'4 210 lbs, the same height as Brown, and was an armed police officer who presumably had some training in fighting/subduing suspects without the use of a weapon. Brown was just fatter than him- that's literally the only "advantage" he would have had in a fight.

Brown had 100 lbs on him, that's like a welterweight fighting a heavyweight... It is a gigantic advantage, this isn't really debatable.

Yes, I'm sure Eli Manning could take on JPP and hold up just fine.....

There's a difference between an NFL defensive end and a fat 18 year old. Just as there's a difference between a guy who's armed and trained in fighting/subduing suspects and one who's not.

This is a silly argument. I think we can all agree that Brown weighed a lot more than Wilson but that Wilson also wouldn't be a helpless weakling in a scuffle with Brown.

 

[HellToupee]

Good arguments were made last night as to why Wilson was not indicted , and why, had this gone to trial he wouldn't have been convicted.

But that doesn't mean that he's innocent of wrongdoing. I continue to have a feeling that Wilson could have avoided shooting Michael Brown to death and chose not to.

like clock work

 

[SIDA!]

But that doesn't mean that he's innocent of wrongdoing. I continue to have a feeling that Wilson could have avoided shooting Michael Brown to death and chose not to.

Would other move would you have suggested he try?

Stand there? I'm still not convinced that Brown with 3 bullets in him was charging Wilson from a distance like a terminator . There I'd much conflicting evidence about this.

Maybe there were hurricane force winds in Ferguson that day. When Brown was running away and got shot in the back, the wind blew his blood back into Wilson and inside his car. And then when Brown turned around and charged him, the hurricane force winds immediately shifted the opposite direction and blew Brown's blood several feet past Brown's body (and opposite the direction of Wilson). I mean, I guess it is possible.

well this makes about as much since as everything else you've written in this thread.

Oh boy.

I forget the specific number of feet, but how did Brown's blood get several feet from Brown's body in the direction opposite of where Wilson was in relation to his body?

 

[Sinn Fein]

Officer Wilson is 6'4 210 lbs, the same height as Brown, and was an armed police officer who presumably had some training in fighting/subduing suspects without the use of a weapon. Brown was just fatter than him- that's literally the only "advantage" he would have had in a fight.

Brown had 100 lbs on him, that's like a welterweight fighting a heavyweight... It is a gigantic advantage, this isn't really debatable.

Yes, I'm sure Eli Manning could take on JPP and hold up just fine.....

There's a difference between an NFL defensive end and a fat 18 year old. Just as there's a difference between a guy who's armed and trained in fighting/subduing suspects and one who's not.

This is a silly argument. I think we can all agree that Brown weighed a lot more than Wilson but that Wilson also wouldn't be a helpless weakling in a scuffle with Brown.

But Wilson thought he was going to die after he was punched twice through a car window.

Maybe Wilson is a helpless weakling.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Racism runs down hill... which is ironic given the root of the "protests"... but this picture is worth a thousand words to me http://i.imgur.com/eXaWAMN.png

I can't imagine being an immigrant who goes to the middle of America, pools your money, scrimps, saves, opens your shop only to have people run through it because some idiot robbed you.

I don't like seeing an O'Reilly's Auto parts burn, but this picture is infuriating to me.

 

[HellToupee]

Any federal action is unlikely. But a civil suit makes sense for the Brown family. There would be a trial. Wilson would have to testify and be cross examined. If he wrongfully killed Michael Brown they can ruin him financially, and the Ferguson police department could be exposed as well.

He was acting as a police officer. I don't see how they could ruin him financially. Any reward would come from the city.

He was not acting as a police officer when he pulled out his weapon, took aim, and unloaded his clip into the decedent. He was a cold-blooded killer, who was tired of taking crap from black youths. It was time to lay down the law.

wow

 

[fantasycurse42]

Officer Wilson is 6'4 210 lbs, the same height as Brown, and was an armed police officer who presumably had some training in fighting/subduing suspects without the use of a weapon. Brown was just fatter than him- that's literally the only "advantage" he would have had in a fight.

Brown had 100 lbs on him, that's like a welterweight fighting a heavyweight... It is a gigantic advantage, this isn't really debatable.

Yes, I'm sure Eli Manning could take on JPP and hold up just fine.....

There's a difference between an NFL defensive end and a fat 18 year old. Just as there's a difference between a guy who's armed and trained in fighting/subduing suspects and one who's not.

This is a silly argument. I think we can all agree that Brown weighed a lot more than Wilson but that Wilson also wouldn't be a helpless weakling in a scuffle with Brown.

But Wilson thought he was going to die after he was punched twice through a car window.

Maybe Wilson is a helpless weakling.

I'm fairly certain Anderson Silva (considered by many the best pound for pound fighter in the world) would wipe the floor with most heavyweights. The whole system is stooopid... Weight classes, those morons!!!

 

[SIDA!]

Racism runs down hill... which is ironic given the root of the "protests"... but this picture is worth a thousand words to me http://i.imgur.com/eXaWAMN.png

I can't imagine being an immigrant who goes to the middle of America, pools your money, scrimps, saves, opens your shop only to have people run through it because some idiot robbed you.

I don't like seeing an O'Reilly's Auto parts burn, but this picture is infuriating to me.

Heartbreaking. I am assuming that that is his business. I know many immigrants and I know that many of them are tireless workers. All day, 6 or 7 days a week. His life's work severely damaged. At least he didn't get his building burnt down. But would you even want to rebuild or start again? Ugh.

 

[Fennis]

Racism runs down hill

what does this mean?