Looting in Missouri after cops shoot 18 year old (3 Viewers)

[SIDA!]

Protesting in Nashville.

Easily dispersed with some country music.

Gems like this is why I continue to come back to this board.

 

[squistion]

4 and a half minutes of silence in NY for Michael Brown? Are you ####### kidding me? Let me get this straight, if I want to be an immortalized hero in America all I have to do is rob a convenience sore, bully an old man, walk in the middle of the street, talk back to a cop, punch him, try to grab his gun, and then disobey his commands when he draws his gun and continue to walk towards him?And people have the nerve to mention this punk in the same sentence as Martin Luther King or Rosa Parks. What a joke.

Um, Michael Brown is not being immortalized as a hero in America. Maybe in a parallel universe, but not in this one.

LOL. Dude, a crowd of about 2,000 people just stopped in front of the United Nations and observed a moment of silence "in his memory" for 4 and a half minutes!! That might be the longest moment of silence in history, at least since Borat. And do you not see all the people wearing Michael Brown shirts and hats? People are going to be naming their children after this piece of ####.

He is considered a victim. That is what the silence was for. He is not being recognized by anyone as a hero from what I have seen.

 

[Underachievers]

Scary that Brown is considered a victim.

 

[Todem]

Protesting in Nashville.

Easily dispersed with some country music.

Gems like this is why I continue to come back to this board.

Don't forget free beer too.

 

[Otis]

Anything good happening here? Other than NO JUSTICE / NO PEACE

Serious question: how many of these people out there tonight have no idea why they're there, other than it seems like an awesome time?

 

[Otis]

THE PEOPLE

UNITED

WILL NEVER BE DEFEATED!

...except for the ones who shoplift, punch cops, and grab cops' guns?

 

[General Tso]

4 and a half minutes of silence in NY for Michael Brown? Are you ####### kidding me? Let me get this straight, if I want to be an immortalized hero in America all I have to do is rob a convenience sore, bully an old man, walk in the middle of the street, talk back to a cop, punch him, try to grab his gun, and then disobey his commands when he draws his gun and continue to walk towards him?And people have the nerve to mention this punk in the same sentence as Martin Luther King or Rosa Parks. What a joke.

Um, Michael Brown is not being immortalized as a hero in America. Maybe in a parallel universe, but not in this one.

LOL. Dude, a crowd of about 2,000 people just stopped in front of the United Nations and observed a moment of silence "in his memory" for 4 and a half minutes!! That might be the longest moment of silence in history, at least since Borat. And do you not see all the people wearing Michael Brown shirts and hats? People are going to be naming their children after this piece of ####.

He is considered a victim. That is what the silence was for. He is not being recognized by anyone as a hero from what I have seen.

Michael Brown a victim???1. He robbed a convenience store, on camera, for a handful of $1 cigarillos.

2. He assaulted the owner, an old man literally half his size.

3. Instead of just leaving, he turns back into the store (and the camera) to intimidate the guy some more (I assume in the hopes he won't call the cops)

4. While holding stolen property in one hand, with drugs in his pocket, he brazenly walks in the middle of the road instead of the sidewalk.

5. When a cop tells him to get out of the street he doesn't (despite 4).

6. He taunts the cop, then attacks him inside his car and tries to grab his gun.

7. When the cop tells him to freeze, he charges him.

And Mike Brown was a victim? Please tell me, in what crazy, fukced up universe is a belligerent assshat like this considered a victim?

 

[MAC_32]

He's not the victim. He's a moron.

 

[Widbil83]

Why are these idiots still chanting 'hands up, don't shoot'. It simply reinforces how ####### stupid they are.

CNN just showed a crowd in NYC doing this while holding up there hands. Honestly I think most of these people don't even know why they are there.

 

[Otis]

Why are these idiots still chanting 'hands up, don't shoot'. It simply reinforces how ####### stupid they are.

CNN just showed a crowd in NYC doing this while holding up there hands. Honestly I think most of these people don't even know why they are there.

This.

 

[squistion]

4 and a half minutes of silence in NY for Michael Brown? Are you ####### kidding me? Let me get this straight, if I want to be an immortalized hero in America all I have to do is rob a convenience sore, bully an old man, walk in the middle of the street, talk back to a cop, punch him, try to grab his gun, and then disobey his commands when he draws his gun and continue to walk towards him?And people have the nerve to mention this punk in the same sentence as Martin Luther King or Rosa Parks. What a joke.

Um, Michael Brown is not being immortalized as a hero in America. Maybe in a parallel universe, but not in this one.

LOL. Dude, a crowd of about 2,000 people just stopped in front of the United Nations and observed a moment of silence "in his memory" for 4 and a half minutes!! That might be the longest moment of silence in history, at least since Borat. And do you not see all the people wearing Michael Brown shirts and hats? People are going to be naming their children after this piece of ####.

He is considered a victim. That is what the silence was for. He is not being recognized by anyone as a hero from what I have seen.

Michael Brown a victim???1. He robbed a convenience store, on camera, for a handful of $1 cigarillos.

2. He assaulted the owner, an old man literally half his size.

3. Instead of just leaving, he turns back into the store (and the camera) to intimidate the guy some more (I assume in the hopes he won't call the cops)

4. While holding stolen property in one hand, with drugs in his pocket, he brazenly walks in the middle of the road instead of the sidewalk.

5. When a cop tells him to get out of the street he doesn't (despite 4).

6. He taunts the cop, then attacks him inside his car and tries to grab his gun.

7. When the cop tells him to freeze, he charges him.

And Mike Brown was a victim? Please tell me, in what crazy, fukced up universe is a belligerent assshat like this considered a victim?

Obviously I don't buy your version of events. This was an unarmed teenager shot 30-40 feet away according to witnesses. That qualifies as a victim to me. And the robbery is irrelevant to his shooting since it didn't appear that Wilson knew about it.

 

[Fennis]

I miss the sanity of the Ebola thread

 

[MAC_32]

4 and a half minutes of silence in NY for Michael Brown? Are you ####### kidding me? Let me get this straight, if I want to be an immortalized hero in America all I have to do is rob a convenience sore, bully an old man, walk in the middle of the street, talk back to a cop, punch him, try to grab his gun, and then disobey his commands when he draws his gun and continue to walk towards him?And people have the nerve to mention this punk in the same sentence as Martin Luther King or Rosa Parks. What a joke.

Um, Michael Brown is not being immortalized as a hero in America. Maybe in a parallel universe, but not in this one.

LOL. Dude, a crowd of about 2,000 people just stopped in front of the United Nations and observed a moment of silence "in his memory" for 4 and a half minutes!! That might be the longest moment of silence in history, at least since Borat. And do you not see all the people wearing Michael Brown shirts and hats? People are going to be naming their children after this piece of ####.

He is considered a victim. That is what the silence was for. He is not being recognized by anyone as a hero from what I have seen.

Michael Brown a victim???1. He robbed a convenience store, on camera, for a handful of $1 cigarillos.

2. He assaulted the owner, an old man literally half his size.

3. Instead of just leaving, he turns back into the store (and the camera) to intimidate the guy some more (I assume in the hopes he won't call the cops)

4. While holding stolen property in one hand, with drugs in his pocket, he brazenly walks in the middle of the road instead of the sidewalk.

5. When a cop tells him to get out of the street he doesn't (despite 4).

6. He taunts the cop, then attacks him inside his car and tries to grab his gun.

7. When the cop tells him to freeze, he charges him.

And Mike Brown was a victim? Please tell me, in what crazy, fukced up universe is a belligerent assshat like this considered a victim?

Obviously I don't buy your version of events. This was an unarmed teenager shot 30-40 feet away according to witnesses. That qualifies as a victim to me.

darwin intervened.

 

[Otis]

His parents seem like nice people.

 

[Otis]

BURN THIS ##### DOWN!!!!!

 

[Guest]

I have to give a rare shout out to Fox News. They're condemning Brown and his supporters. Anything short of that is an affront to reason, the justice system and decency. CNN on the other hand seems to be legitimizing some point that I fail to understand in light of fact.

There's a big problem in this country, and beyond perceived lack of opportunity, there are communities in this country that have no interest or aptitude for positive contribution or truth. These people need to be called out in an effort to correct what is poor and ineffective thinking begetting similar actions. Not calling it out for what it is is a travesty in its own right.

 

[bryhamm]

The protests in the other cities is just f-ing stupid.. F-ing lemmings

Protests in other cities make more sense to me than any going on in Fergusun - police abuse of power is more prevalent elsewhere than some pondunk city in Missouri.

St Louis is "pondunk"?

 

[irish eyes]

His step dad's statements are all you need to hear. To bad this thug idiot didn't get this sooner. And a big hand for all the uneducated moron jerkoff idiots who rioted, make Ferguson proud and reinforce that the cop was JUSTIFIED

 

[Otis]

I have to give a rare shout out to Fox News. They're condemning Brown and his supporters. Anything short of that is an affront to reason, the justice system and decency. CNN on the other hand seems to be legitimizing some point that I fail to understand in light of fact.

There's a big problem in this country, and beyond perceived lack of opportunity, there are communities in this country that have no interest or aptitude for positive contribution or truth. These people need to be called out in an effort to correct what is poor and ineffective thinking begetting similar actions. Not calling it out for what it is is a travesty in its own right.

This isn't fair. Don Lemon is beating some dude up as you posted this over the fact that the guy is making excuses for Brown's stepdad. CNN isn't condoning any of this.

 

[Otis]

Streets out in front of my house: dead quiet.

:redwine:

 

[squistion]

I miss the sanity of the Ebola thread

 

[Otis]

Instead of the hands-up thing, what if they protested by making a shoplifting motion? That would be good shtick.

 

[Widbil83]

The real victim is the poor Indian store owner. Guy gets robbed and assaulted by Mike Brown and 3 months later gets his store looted by his supporters.

 

[The General]

Michael Brown a victim???

1. He robbed a convenience store, on camera, for a handful of $1 cigarillos.

2. He assaulted the owner, an old man literally half his size.

3. Instead of just leaving, he turns back into the store (and the camera) to intimidate the guy some more (I assume in the hopes he won't call the cops)

4. While holding stolen property in one hand, with drugs in his pocket, he brazenly walks in the middle of the road instead of the sidewalk.

5. When a cop tells him to get out of the street he doesn't (despite 4).

6. He taunts the cop, then attacks him inside his car and tries to grab his gun.

7. When the cop tells him to freeze, he charges him.

Serious question I haven't followed this story at all really. What parts of the above description are in question?

 

[Otis]

The real victim is the poor Indian store owner. Guy gets robbed and assaulted by Mike Brown and 3 months later gets his store looted by his supporters.

NO JUSTICE

NO PEACE

 

[irish eyes]

4 and a half minutes of silence in NY for Michael Brown? Are you ####### kidding me? Let me get this straight, if I want to be an immortalized hero in America all I have to do is rob a convenience sore, bully an old man, walk in the middle of the street, talk back to a cop, punch him, try to grab his gun, and then disobey his commands when he draws his gun and continue to walk towards him?And people have the nerve to mention this punk in the same sentence as Martin Luther King or Rosa Parks. What a joke.

Um, Michael Brown is not being immortalized as a hero in America. Maybe in a parallel universe, but not in this one.

LOL. Dude, a crowd of about 2,000 people just stopped in front of the United Nations and observed a moment of silence "in his memory" for 4 and a half minutes!! That might be the longest moment of silence in history, at least since Borat. And do you not see all the people wearing Michael Brown shirts and hats? People are going to be naming their children after this piece of ####.

He is considered a victim. That is what the silence was for. He is not being recognized by anyone as a hero from what I have seen.

Michael Brown a victim???1. He robbed a convenience store, on camera, for a handful of $1 cigarillos.

2. He assaulted the owner, an old man literally half his size.

3. Instead of just leaving, he turns back into the store (and the camera) to intimidate the guy some more (I assume in the hopes he won't call the cops)

4. While holding stolen property in one hand, with drugs in his pocket, he brazenly walks in the middle of the road instead of the sidewalk.

5. When a cop tells him to get out of the street he doesn't (despite 4).

6. He taunts the cop, then attacks him inside his car and tries to grab his gun.

7. When the cop tells him to freeze, he charges him.

And Mike Brown was a victim? Please tell me, in what crazy, fukced up universe is a belligerent assshat like this considered a victim?

Obviously I don't buy your version of events. This was an unarmed teenager shot 30-40 feet away according to witnesses. That qualifies as a victim to me. And the robbery is irrelevant to his shooting since it didn't appear that Wilson knew about it.

WOW I weep for this country and the fact that you live hear. What a dope you are, please don't comment any further. Actually please do so we can laugh at you.

 

[Otis]

Michael Brown a victim???

1. He robbed a convenience store, on camera, for a handful of $1 cigarillos.

2. He assaulted the owner, an old man literally half his size.

3. Instead of just leaving, he turns back into the store (and the camera) to intimidate the guy some more (I assume in the hopes he won't call the cops)

4. While holding stolen property in one hand, with drugs in his pocket, he brazenly walks in the middle of the road instead of the sidewalk.

5. When a cop tells him to get out of the street he doesn't (despite 4).

6. He taunts the cop, then attacks him inside his car and tries to grab his gun.

7. When the cop tells him to freeze, he charges him.

Serious question I haven't followed this story at all really. What parts of the above description are in question?

I haven't followed it super closely, but I believe probably none of it. There are a couple of witnesses off the reservation who gave different accounts, but the grand jury apparently believed these people were full of crap.

 

[bryhamm]

Obviously I don't buy your version of events. This was an unarmed teenager shot 30-40 feet away according to witnesses. That qualifies as a victim to me. And the robbery is irrelevant to his shooting since it didn't appear that Wilson knew about it.

stinky bait

 

[Limp Ditka]

4 and a half minutes of silence in NY for Michael Brown? Are you ####### kidding me? Let me get this straight, if I want to be an immortalized hero in America all I have to do is rob a convenience sore, bully an old man, walk in the middle of the street, talk back to a cop, punch him, try to grab his gun, and then disobey his commands when he draws his gun and continue to walk towards him?And people have the nerve to mention this punk in the same sentence as Martin Luther King or Rosa Parks. What a joke.

Um, Michael Brown is not being immortalized as a hero in America. Maybe in a parallel universe, but not in this one.

LOL. Dude, a crowd of about 2,000 people just stopped in front of the United Nations and observed a moment of silence "in his memory" for 4 and a half minutes!! That might be the longest moment of silence in history, at least since Borat. And do you not see all the people wearing Michael Brown shirts and hats? People are going to be naming their children after this piece of ####.

He is considered a victim. That is what the silence was for. He is not being recognized by anyone as a hero from what I have seen.

Michael Brown a victim???1. He robbed a convenience store, on camera, for a handful of $1 cigarillos.

2. He assaulted the owner, an old man literally half his size.

3. Instead of just leaving, he turns back into the store (and the camera) to intimidate the guy some more (I assume in the hopes he won't call the cops)

4. While holding stolen property in one hand, with drugs in his pocket, he brazenly walks in the middle of the road instead of the sidewalk.

5. When a cop tells him to get out of the street he doesn't (despite 4).

6. He taunts the cop, then attacks him inside his car and tries to grab his gun.

7. When the cop tells him to freeze, he charges him.

And Mike Brown was a victim? Please tell me, in what crazy, fukced up universe is a belligerent assshat like this considered a victim?

Obviously I don't buy your version of events. This was an unarmed teenager shot 30-40 feet away according to witnesses. That qualifies as a victim to me. And the robbery is irrelevant to his shooting since it didn't appear that Wilson knew about it.

WOW I weep for this country and the fact that you live hear. What a dope you are, please don't comment any further. Actually please do so we can laugh at you.

WHAT?

 

[tdoss]

Charles Barkley keeping it real on Philly radio right now.

"We can't just pick and choose events that go against us, if it weren't for police our neighborhoods would be the Wild Wild West."

And calling out black people that wear their jeans around their asses acting like thugs who say educated black people aren't keeping it real and not being black enough.

This used to be Cosby's schtick

schtick? we need more of this......without the future rape allegations

yes, shtick. The "old black conservative who blames black people for racism so white conservatives will make you their hero and ignore the thousands of other more informed people who understand the complexity of the issues" guy. I love Chuck, but it's pure shtick. He's a 51 year old multimillionaire celebrity who travels from the TNT studios to golf tournaments to basketball games in limos and private jets. He knows less about the problems facing poor black communities than the vast majority of the US population.

So successful black people are unable to talk for or represent black people? He wouldn't have any clue what young black men face because when he was growing up in Alabama it was like the Garden of Eden down there?

Your opinion is dangerous. And it is shared by too many people.

Of course that's not what I'm saying. Anyone can talk for or represent whomever they choose. And yes, he can speak with particular insight about growing up poor and black ... in the 1970s.

His opinion has value. All opinions have value. My problem is with people who give his opinion greater value simply because he's black and they like what he says, and then turn around and ignore the many, many, many people who are far closer to today's poor black communities than he is who offer a much different perspective.

You are doing the same thing in the opposite direction then. Because it is the voice of successful black people and real black leaders that should be heard and shouted from the mountaintops to the younger black men in that community. Al Sharpton is not a leader. He's a parasite. And he sucks the life out of a community just like a parasite. Yet they let him do it because there is a void of leaders, a void of fathers and a void of men to lead these kids. And as soon as one of those men gets successful he is a sell out and his voice should be lessened, downplayed or ignored because "what does he know?"

I agree on Sharpton, but I strongly disagree on Barkley. He's successful because he was really good at basketball and now he's good at being funny and controversial on TV. He's also a compulsive gambler who once welched on a $400,000 debt, has a DUI conviction, and didn't graduate from college. I don't see him as someone whose voice should be given particular weight (no pun intended), because that doesn't seem to me like a life path that is easy to duplicate or that lends him any particular insight. As I said, YMMV. And I love Chuck- he's awesome. But I just don't see it.

I don't care about Charles Barkely. I can't stand the meme that successful black men can't be a voice for black men. It's ridiculous.

The real problem at the end of the day is really a lack of men in the black community. I have no idea how to attack that problem but that is the problem that is the basis for everything after that. Fathers, husbands and grown up men need to be in that community. Without them this will never be a problem that goes away.

Anecdote time: I remember an incident when I was a kid. No idea how old but it was before high school. While my grandfather was still alive. I was outside of his house playing and a car drove down the street and being the stupid kid that I was I gave the person the finger. Couldn't tell you why. Well it turned out that the person in the car was a close friend of my grandfather. So to this day I remember my grandfather telling me to sit down in the kitchen a few days later after he was told what happened, and in the kitchen was him, my father and 2 of my father's brothers. We were in that kitchen for what seemed like forever. You know what I never did again? Disrespect someone like that again. You know who I admire the most in my life and want to see again in heaven just so he can tell me I did good? My grandfather.

Boys need fathers, and teenagers and 20somethings that don't have them don't get to grow into the men they should be without those fathers. You want to really do something for the black community. Stop attacking the criminal justice system when a criminal gets shot and make sure that criminal never becomes one in the first place. Because successful black men shouldn't be the exception or the punchline.

Pharell posted something about, "Why aren't we questioning Michael Brown's bullyish behavior?" Even though he says he still believes there should've been an indictment...he's being called all kinds of names by my black friends on FB.

Most are something along the lines of "Gay @zz Uncle Tom".

 

[Guest]

Speaking of WAT - New York Times printed Wilson's home address... WTF!!!

 

[General Tso]

The real victim is the poor Indian store owner. Guy gets robbed and assaulted by Mike Brown and 3 months later gets his store looted by his supporters.

THIS. What a kind, gentle culture too. A few months ago my son lost his wallet on vacation at the Orlando Mall in Florida. He had $300 in it, which he had been saving for a whole year to buy some sneakers and clothing. He had no documentation in the wallet other than a receipt with my name on it. An Indian store owner had found the wallet and spent about an hour tracking me down to tell me he had it. Can you believe that ####? When the wallet went missing I told my son that the odds of someone turning it in were about 1 in a hundred.

 

[bryhamm]

Charles Barkley keeping it real on Philly radio right now.

"We can't just pick and choose events that go against us, if it weren't for police our neighborhoods would be the Wild Wild West."

And calling out black people that wear their jeans around their asses acting like thugs who say educated black people aren't keeping it real and not being black enough.

This used to be Cosby's schtick

schtick? we need more of this......without the future rape allegations

yes, shtick. The "old black conservative who blames black people for racism so white conservatives will make you their hero and ignore the thousands of other more informed people who understand the complexity of the issues" guy. I love Chuck, but it's pure shtick. He's a 51 year old multimillionaire celebrity who travels from the TNT studios to golf tournaments to basketball games in limos and private jets. He knows less about the problems facing poor black communities than the vast majority of the US population.

So successful black people are unable to talk for or represent black people? He wouldn't have any clue what young black men face because when he was growing up in Alabama it was like the Garden of Eden down there?

Your opinion is dangerous. And it is shared by too many people.

Of course that's not what I'm saying. Anyone can talk for or represent whomever they choose. And yes, he can speak with particular insight about growing up poor and black ... in the 1970s.

His opinion has value. All opinions have value. My problem is with people who give his opinion greater value simply because he's black and they like what he says, and then turn around and ignore the many, many, many people who are far closer to today's poor black communities than he is who offer a much different perspective.

You are doing the same thing in the opposite direction then. Because it is the voice of successful black people and real black leaders that should be heard and shouted from the mountaintops to the younger black men in that community. Al Sharpton is not a leader. He's a parasite. And he sucks the life out of a community just like a parasite. Yet they let him do it because there is a void of leaders, a void of fathers and a void of men to lead these kids. And as soon as one of those men gets successful he is a sell out and his voice should be lessened, downplayed or ignored because "what does he know?"

I agree on Sharpton, but I strongly disagree on Barkley. He's successful because he was really good at basketball and now he's good at being funny and controversial on TV. He's also a compulsive gambler who once welched on a $400,000 debt, has a DUI conviction, and didn't graduate from college. I don't see him as someone whose voice should be given particular weight (no pun intended), because that doesn't seem to me like a life path that is easy to duplicate or that lends him any particular insight. As I said, YMMV. And I love Chuck- he's awesome. But I just don't see it.

I don't care about Charles Barkely. I can't stand the meme that successful black men can't be a voice for black men. It's ridiculous.

The real problem at the end of the day is really a lack of men in the black community. I have no idea how to attack that problem but that is the problem that is the basis for everything after that. Fathers, husbands and grown up men need to be in that community. Without them this will never be a problem that goes away.

Anecdote time: I remember an incident when I was a kid. No idea how old but it was before high school. While my grandfather was still alive. I was outside of his house playing and a car drove down the street and being the stupid kid that I was I gave the person the finger. Couldn't tell you why. Well it turned out that the person in the car was a close friend of my grandfather. So to this day I remember my grandfather telling me to sit down in the kitchen a few days later after he was told what happened, and in the kitchen was him, my father and 2 of my father's brothers. We were in that kitchen for what seemed like forever. You know what I never did again? Disrespect someone like that again. You know who I admire the most in my life and want to see again in heaven just so he can tell me I did good? My grandfather.

Boys need fathers, and teenagers and 20somethings that don't have them don't get to grow into the men they should be without those fathers. You want to really do something for the black community. Stop attacking the criminal justice system when a criminal gets shot and make sure that criminal never becomes one in the first place. Because successful black men shouldn't be the exception or the punchline.

Pharell posted something about, "Why aren't we questioning Michael Brown's bullyish behavior?" Even though he says he still believes there should've been an indictment...he's being called all kinds of names by my black friends on FB.

Most are something along the lines of "Gay @zz Uncle Tom".

so sad

 

[tdoss]

Brown's step father encouraging everyone to burn the city down, that's nice of him.

Why isn't this thug in jail right now?

Really should be...for inciting a riot.

I hear the mom should be also for robbery and theft for attacking people selling shirts and stealing their money.

This kid really had no chance to grow up well-balanced.

 

[The General]

Michael Brown a victim???

1. He robbed a convenience store, on camera, for a handful of $1 cigarillos.

2. He assaulted the owner, an old man literally half his size.

3. Instead of just leaving, he turns back into the store (and the camera) to intimidate the guy some more (I assume in the hopes he won't call the cops)

4. While holding stolen property in one hand, with drugs in his pocket, he brazenly walks in the middle of the road instead of the sidewalk.

5. When a cop tells him to get out of the street he doesn't (despite 4).

6. He taunts the cop, then attacks him inside his car and tries to grab his gun.

7. When the cop tells him to freeze, he charges him.

Serious question I haven't followed this story at all really. What parts of the above description are in question?

I haven't followed it super closely, but I believe probably none of it. There are a couple of witnesses off the reservation who gave different accounts, but the grand jury apparently believed these people were full of crap.

They have video of the guy robbing a store?

There are other witnesses - who aren't other cops - of the attack and shooting?

Again not trolling was out of the country when all this really started taking off and then really busy at work for a few weeks after that so missed a lot of the initial coverage.

 

[Mark Davis]

What a shot that just was on CNN.

 

[Mario Kart]

Charles Barkley keeping it real on Philly radio right now.

"We can't just pick and choose events that go against us, if it weren't for police our neighborhoods would be the Wild Wild West."

And calling out black people that wear their jeans around their asses acting like thugs who say educated black people aren't keeping it real and not being black enough.

This used to be Cosby's schtick

schtick? we need more of this......without the future rape allegations

yes, shtick. The "old black conservative who blames black people for racism so white conservatives will make you their hero and ignore the thousands of other more informed people who understand the complexity of the issues" guy. I love Chuck, but it's pure shtick. He's a 51 year old multimillionaire celebrity who travels from the TNT studios to golf tournaments to basketball games in limos and private jets. He knows less about the problems facing poor black communities than the vast majority of the US population.

So successful black people are unable to talk for or represent black people? He wouldn't have any clue what young black men face because when he was growing up in Alabama it was like the Garden of Eden down there?

Your opinion is dangerous. And it is shared by too many people.

Of course that's not what I'm saying. Anyone can talk for or represent whomever they choose. And yes, he can speak with particular insight about growing up poor and black ... in the 1970s.

His opinion has value. All opinions have value. My problem is with people who give his opinion greater value simply because he's black and they like what he says, and then turn around and ignore the many, many, many people who are far closer to today's poor black communities than he is who offer a much different perspective.

You are doing the same thing in the opposite direction then. Because it is the voice of successful black people and real black leaders that should be heard and shouted from the mountaintops to the younger black men in that community. Al Sharpton is not a leader. He's a parasite. And he sucks the life out of a community just like a parasite. Yet they let him do it because there is a void of leaders, a void of fathers and a void of men to lead these kids. And as soon as one of those men gets successful he is a sell out and his voice should be lessened, downplayed or ignored because "what does he know?"

I agree on Sharpton, but I strongly disagree on Barkley. He's successful because he was really good at basketball and now he's good at being funny and controversial on TV. He's also a compulsive gambler who once welched on a $400,000 debt, has a DUI conviction, and didn't graduate from college. I don't see him as someone whose voice should be given particular weight (no pun intended), because that doesn't seem to me like a life path that is easy to duplicate or that lends him any particular insight. As I said, YMMV. And I love Chuck- he's awesome. But I just don't see it.

I don't care about Charles Barkely. I can't stand the meme that successful black men can't be a voice for black men. It's ridiculous.

The real problem at the end of the day is really a lack of men in the black community. I have no idea how to attack that problem but that is the problem that is the basis for everything after that. Fathers, husbands and grown up men need to be in that community. Without them this will never be a problem that goes away.

Anecdote time: I remember an incident when I was a kid. No idea how old but it was before high school. While my grandfather was still alive. I was outside of his house playing and a car drove down the street and being the stupid kid that I was I gave the person the finger. Couldn't tell you why. Well it turned out that the person in the car was a close friend of my grandfather. So to this day I remember my grandfather telling me to sit down in the kitchen a few days later after he was told what happened, and in the kitchen was him, my father and 2 of my father's brothers. We were in that kitchen for what seemed like forever. You know what I never did again? Disrespect someone like that again. You know who I admire the most in my life and want to see again in heaven just so he can tell me I did good? My grandfather.

Boys need fathers, and teenagers and 20somethings that don't have them don't get to grow into the men they should be without those fathers. You want to really do something for the black community. Stop attacking the criminal justice system when a criminal gets shot and make sure that criminal never becomes one in the first place. Because successful black men shouldn't be the exception or the punchline.

Pharell posted something about, "Why aren't we questioning Michael Brown's bullyish behavior?" Even though he says he still believes there should've been an indictment...he's being called all kinds of names by my black friends on FB.

Most are something along the lines of "Gay @zz Uncle Tom".

Why aren't your friends happy?

 

[Otis]

Lol at people attacking police cars in Ferguson. Because that works so well.

 

[Otis]

What a shot that just was on CNN.

Reporter getting harassed by a white dude with a beard. That place is a mess.

 

[TheAristocrat]

I think CNN has been very fair in their reporting. Possibly due to the intervention of others on camera.

 

[Mark Davis]

What a shot that just was on CNN.

Reporter getting harassed by a white dude with a beard. That place is a mess.

Fool had a GI Joe looking medic patch on his arm. Not sure he didn't come from a mental ward.

 

[Otis]

What a shot that just was on CNN.

Reporter getting harassed by a white dude with a beard. That place is a mess.

Fool had a GI Joe looking medic patch on his arm. Not sure he didn't come from a mental ward.

That Don Lemon Lite dude was struggling with that situation. I wish it had been Anderson or Chris Cuomo. Those dudes would have laid the guy out.

 

[Billy Bats]

This is on the front page of Reddit right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPUcA7yrErg&feature=youtu.be

I haven't seen anything else from Fredrick Wilson II but I might have to subscribe.

Wow

This guys get's it.

GO STAKE YOUR CLAIM. It's a free country.

Nah, it's way easier to keep your hand out and blame everyone else.

 

[irish eyes]

I would have NO problem with cops capping these welfare abusing idiots that loot & burn. Really don't you losers have a life or a JOB!!!

 

[General Tso]

Michael Brown a victim???

1. He robbed a convenience store, on camera, for a handful of $1 cigarillos.

2. He assaulted the owner, an old man literally half his size.

3. Instead of just leaving, he turns back into the store (and the camera) to intimidate the guy some more (I assume in the hopes he won't call the cops)

4. While holding stolen property in one hand, with drugs in his pocket, he brazenly walks in the middle of the road instead of the sidewalk.

5. When a cop tells him to get out of the street he doesn't (despite 4).

6. He taunts the cop, then attacks him inside his car and tries to grab his gun.

7. When the cop tells him to freeze, he charges him.

Serious question I haven't followed this story at all really. What parts of the above description are in question?

I haven't followed it super closely, but I believe probably none of it. There are a couple of witnesses off the reservation who gave different accounts, but the grand jury apparently believed these people were full of crap.

Despite 1-3 being on videotape, and his friend who was with him acknowledging that 4-6 happened. LOL. Otis, you are not my man.

 

[The General]

Pretty maddening when people suggest that the cops/governor should be doing a better job protecting property and controlling this mess.

Same people will be complaining of a "Police State" if cops/governor get more aggressive.

 

[The General]

Michael Brown a victim???

1. He robbed a convenience store, on camera, for a handful of $1 cigarillos.

2. He assaulted the owner, an old man literally half his size.

3. Instead of just leaving, he turns back into the store (and the camera) to intimidate the guy some more (I assume in the hopes he won't call the cops)

4. While holding stolen property in one hand, with drugs in his pocket, he brazenly walks in the middle of the road instead of the sidewalk.

5. When a cop tells him to get out of the street he doesn't (despite 4).

6. He taunts the cop, then attacks him inside his car and tries to grab his gun.

7. When the cop tells him to freeze, he charges him.

Serious question I haven't followed this story at all really. What parts of the above description are in question?

I haven't followed it super closely, but I believe probably none of it. There are a couple of witnesses off the reservation who gave different accounts, but the grand jury apparently believed these people were full of crap.

Despite 1-3 being on videotape, and his friend who was with him acknowledging that 4-6 happened. LOL. Otis, you are not my man.

I read that as he agreed for the most part with what you said, but also said he hasn't followed it too closely.

 

[Mark Davis]

Pretty maddening when people suggest that the cops/governor should be doing a better job protecting property and controlling this mess.

Same people will be complaining of a "Police State" if cops/governor get more aggressive.

Yeah, the original riots were because the police used too much force, now the complaint is they aren't using enough. Impossible job these guys are confronted with.

 

[jonessed]

Pretty maddening when people suggest that the cops/governor should be doing a better job protecting property and controlling this mess.

Same people will be complaining of a "Police State" if cops/governor get more aggressive.

Different set of people.

 

[Mr Anonymous]

Police have no choice but to take an extremely passive stance. It's the only way to swing public opinion back on their side where it should be.