Mad Max: Fury Road (1 Viewer)

[Officer Pete Malloy]

FWIW, can't speak for others who preferred a bit more character development as I do... but in my case at least, I am not looking for oscar level depth here. Star Wars level backdrop would be plenty. Write a couple paragraphs at least.

Unless you want to go all artsy and say that we had to wander in the desert of character, not sure where to go, who to root for. An oasis or mirage, just who deserves our praise and devotion... and then it becomes clear.

Well, not really. But still, cool movie.

Yes

Cutting 5-10 mins of some of the action (which was a little repetitive) to introduce a little more story would have helped this film a ton and subtracted nothing.

Conversely, you could have cut 5-10 minutes of the story and added a bit more of that awesome repetition and maybe a guitar solo from the flamethrower.

Correct. Why subtract from what makes this movie THIS movie and muddle it up with some bogus backstory that has zero chance of explaining THIS world?

Make the guitar solo the backstory and roll with it.

OPM would probably recommend cutting a sex scene from a pron so they can show the 5 minute phone call where the girl orders the pizza with extra sausage.

Hurdurhurhurhurdur

I bet you've been caught off guard by the ending to every Scooby Doo episode you've ever seen.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I'll bet the ladies purse forum hated the movie as well. Not enough handbags.

Didn't you say you didn't even like action movies that much?

 

[Zow]

There's something to be said for knowing exactly what the goal of a movie is and then executing it

flawlessly. Cramming a bunch of backstory and dialogue into this movie wouldn't have improved it.

See this is what I'm talking about. My rule is: does the movie deliver the promise of the trailer? The answer here is, "Yes.

So it's no better than a porno?

What's wrong with pornos??

Your mom keeps phoning it in.

Because for some reason she pictures your face.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

I posted before that I liked this commercial but when you compare it to Fury Road, how can anyone not find the movie super awesome?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQzZJVfZydE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEJnMQG9ev8

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

There's something to be said for knowing exactly what the goal of a movie is and then executing it

flawlessly. Cramming a bunch of backstory and dialogue into this movie wouldn't have improved it.

See this is what I'm talking about. My rule is: does the movie deliver the promise of the trailer? The answer here is, "Yes.

So it's no better than a porno?

What's wrong with pornos??

Your mom keeps phoning it in.

Because for some reason she pictures your face.

We both know the reason.

 

[shadyridr]

Just watched it for a fourth time. That last half hour is probably the most intense half hour scene in movie history.

Witness me!

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Just watched it for a fourth time. That last half hour is probably the most intense half hour scene in movie history.

Witness me!

I guess you've never seen Saving Private Ryan

 

[Pumpnick]

is this like fast and the furious?

 

[Pumpnick]

i don't care about graphics and flying cars, more about characters and story line

 

[The Future Champs]

I'll bet the ladies purse forum hated the movie as well. Not enough handbags.

Didn't you say you didn't even like action movies that much?

True. The writing tends to be horrible. Comic book superhero movies are generally the worst of the lot. (That said, GotG was outstanding fun.)

 

[Ministry of Pain]

is this like fast and the furious?

Not so much

 

[The Gator]

There's something to be said for knowing exactly what the goal of a movie is and then executing it flawlessly. Cramming a bunch of backstory and dialogue into this movie wouldn't have improved it.

See this is what I'm talking about. My rule is: does the movie deliver the promise of the trailer? The answer here is, "Yes.

So it's no better than a porno?

What's wrong with pornos??

Your mom keeps phoning it in.

Mad Maxxx: Furry Road?

 

[KarmaPolice]

I'll bet the ladies purse forum hated the movie as well. Not enough handbags.

Didn't you say you didn't even like action movies that much?

True. The writing tends to be horrible. Comic book superhero movies are generally the worst of the lot. (That said, GotG was outstanding fun.)

Safe to say we won't be meeting up for any movies. I thought GotG was meh too.

 

[KarmaPolice]

is this like fast and the furious?

Not so much

Yeah, those movies were actually good.

 

[msommer]

Just watched it for a fourth time. That last half hour is probably the most intense half hour scene in movie history.

Witness me!

I guess you've never seen Saving Private Ryan

I agree that the twenty odd minute beginning of Saving Private Ryan is awesome. Unfortunately it goes downhill from there (fast and far down hill) and only picks up at the very end...

 

[The General]

is this like fast and the furious?

Not so much

Yeah, those movies were actually good.

 

[packersfan]

is this like fast and the furious?

I think Vin Diesel and Paul Walker both have more fully developed characters in their first film than Max had in this one. This was an epic waste of Hardy's talent. Theron is good but since I didn't care about her character at all the fact she's the lead character and the entire story is essentially about her the movie really went nowhere for me.

The action scenes often felt cartoonish, especially the earlier one where Max is on the front of a car. I couldn't take any of it seriously or enjoy it because it looked so ridiculous with the hyper-speeded up filming. I thought all of them paled to the greatness of The Road Warrior and even the first film. Those two films felt real with their action scenes. There's even one scene in the first film where one of the stuntmen was actually hit in the head by a motorcycle and that stayed in the film.

 

[ghostguy123]

i don't care about graphics and flying cars, more about characters and story line

And?

 

[ghostguy123]

There is no backstory that would create a good lead into that craziness so quit clamoring for some forced BS piece of cow dung "back story" for a movie that was clearly made with complete disregard for any sort of potentially realistic sort of backstory.

Addition by subtraction in this case.

People usually want more backstory when they find the character interesting or intriguing.

In this case it's quite possible that if there was more time spent on the backstory the character might not be as interesting or intriguing.

In most cases, sure, makes perfect sense. This movie might just be one of the few where more backstory hurts it.

 

[Zow]

The backstory complaints don't make sense to me. Frankly, the backstory becomes obvious in the first few minutes of the movie and people's objectives are clearly known.

I thought Road Warrior 2 may be necessary watching since it sort of gives us the idea that Mad Max is a former "good guy" who now just wants to wander. Nonetheless the backstories are obvious:

- desolate post-apocalyptic wasteland where morality has been lost

- people will kill each other on a whim and will go to great lengths to survive

- essentially factions have been created in certain areas

- max is a wanderer who doesn't like people but is deep down "good"

- he happens to get caught by the thugs of one of the feudal lords who keeps control of his people by controlling all the water

- the thug is a weird dude and clearly a bad person

- the thug keeps all the hot chicks for himself and wants to create sons to follow in his footsteps

- it's necessary for them to travel to other areas for bartering, however this is dangerous: hence the thug army

- he controls the army by brainwashing them in the belief of an afterlife and by using huffing

- theron has survived by being a badass but is a good person and wants to save the hot slaves and has developed a plan to do so

- max has just happened upon all this and will initially want nothing to do with it but will eventually help because he's a good guy

- somehow planes, electricity, and roads have just disappeared but vehicles and oil are attainable. just go with it.

- commence awesome action

This isn't that hard and I don't know what other "backstory" is needed. And I generally love backstories.

 

[packersfan]

For me, this film has no connection at all to the Gibson films other than one character has the same name. So watching those earlier three films isn't necessary.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

The backstory complaints don't make sense to me. Frankly, the backstory becomes obvious in the first few minutes of the movie and people's objectives are clearly known.

I thought Road Warrior 2 may be necessary watching since it sort of gives us the idea that Mad Max is a former "good guy" who now just wants to wander. Nonetheless the backstories are obvious:

- desolate post-apocalyptic wasteland where morality has been lost

- people will kill each other on a whim and will go to great lengths to survive

- essentially factions have been created in certain areas

- max is a wanderer who doesn't like people but is deep down "good"

- he happens to get caught by the thugs of one of the feudal lords who keeps control of his people by controlling all the water

- the thug is a weird dude and clearly a bad person

- the thug keeps all the hot chicks for himself and wants to create sons to follow in his footsteps

- it's necessary for them to travel to other areas for bartering, however this is dangerous: hence the thug army

- he controls the army by brainwashing them in the belief of an afterlife and by using huffing

- theron has survived by being a badass but is a good person and wants to save the hot slaves and has developed a plan to do so

- max has just happened upon all this and will initially want nothing to do with it but will eventually help because he's a good guy

- somehow planes, electricity, and roads have just disappeared but vehicles and oil are attainable. just go with it.

- commence awesome action

This isn't that hard and I don't know what other "backstory" is needed. And I generally love backstories.

Again: Cutting 5-10 minutes of skinheads hitting a tanker truck with exploding spears and inserting a few more details about what you listed above would not hurt the quality of this film at all. It was actually improve it.

 

[packersfan]

This film didn't just need a back story; it needed a story.

 

[ghostguy123]

Maybe, maybe not. I say probably not.

I guess if you ALWAYS have to have a backstory to enjoy a movie more then so be it. I don't. Thankfully.

I bet if they did have a backstory that OPM would complain that it wasnt enough, and if they added more it wouldnt be enough, and after a while you have a movie with all dialogue and no action....and then he would complain about the lack of action.

Sad way to live, shtick or not. Yeesh

 

[Zow]

This film didn't just need a back story; it needed a story.

It had a very clear story. I just detailed it above. It's also somewhat ironic though that you claim that the first three movies were useless for enjoying this one -- they were incredibly useful because they provide the viewer with the backstory to max so just the super short soliloquy to fury road is needed.

Suppose this is all just too much to ask from a Packers fan.

 

[packersfan]

This film didn't just need a back story; it needed a story.

It had a very clear story. I just detailed it above. It's also somewhat ironic though that you claim that the first three movies were useless for enjoying this one -- they were incredibly useful because they provide the viewer with the backstory to max so just the super short soliloquy to fury road is needed.

Suppose this is all just too much to ask from a Packers fan.

Yup, that's gotta be it

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Best picture nom? Really?

 

[Sabertooth]

is this like fast and the furious?

A lot less makeup.

 

[Sabertooth]

The thing I liked about it was it was simple. Not everything needs to be Kubrick.

 

[JB Breakfast Club]

We did it, guys! 10 Oscar nominations, including best picture!

 

[The General]

is this like fast and the furious?

A lot less makeup.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

is this like fast and the furious?

I think Vin Diesel and Paul Walker both have more fully developed characters in their first film than Max had in this one. This was an epic waste of Hardy's talent. Theron is good but since I didn't care about her character at all the fact she's the lead character and the entire story is essentially about her the movie really went nowhere for me.

The action scenes often felt cartoonish, especially the earlier one where Max is on the front of a car. I couldn't take any of it seriously or enjoy it because it looked so ridiculous with the hyper-speeded up filming. I thought all of them paled to the greatness of The Road Warrior and even the first film. Those two films felt real with their action scenes. There's even one scene in the first film where one of the stuntmen was actually hit in the head by a motorcycle and that stayed in the film.

this is the 4th film in the series and yet you are comparing it to the 1st of fast and furious in terms of character development?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Great to see this film go all the way and get the Oscar nominations. Wonder if a sequal of sorts is in the works. They have hit a nerve with over 40 year old males wanting to see rock n roll in their cinema.

What's next, Guns n Roses reunites?

 

[packersfan]

is this like fast and the furious?

I think Vin Diesel and Paul Walker both have more fully developed characters in their first film than Max had in this one. This was an epic waste of Hardy's talent. Theron is good but since I didn't care about her character at all the fact she's the lead character and the entire story is essentially about her the movie really went nowhere for me.

The action scenes often felt cartoonish, especially the earlier one where Max is on the front of a car. I couldn't take any of it seriously or enjoy it because it looked so ridiculous with the hyper-speeded up filming. I thought all of them paled to the greatness of The Road Warrior and even the first film. Those two films felt real with their action scenes. There's even one scene in the first film where one of the stuntmen was actually hit in the head by a motorcycle and that stayed in the film.

this is the 4th film in the series and yet you are comparing it to the 1st of fast and furious in terms of character development?

I honestly don't think this film has any meaningful connection to the earlier films other than Hardy's character shares the same name as Gibson's. Max in this film isn't close to the impactful character we saw in the earlier films. He's a secondary character whose role and importance to the story could have been replaced by anyone. My comment was mostly in jest although I did enjoy the first Fast and Furious film more than this one and the characters in that film (played by actors far less talented than Hardy and Theron) were far more engaging for me. I really thought this film was a huge disappointment. I'm an enormous Mad Max fan but this film pretty much stunk for me. Some nice visuals, but action scenes were often completely ridiculous due to the hyper-kinetic pacing and what story there was lacked a compelling reason for me to get invested in it.

I'm not sure there's been a less deserving film nominated for Best Picture in years, maybe ever. Just my two cents as a Packers fan.

 

[The General]

Character development and Fast and Furious. I really FEEL Vin Diesels pain.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

is this like fast and the furious?

I think Vin Diesel and Paul Walker both have more fully developed characters in their first film than Max had in this one. This was an epic waste of Hardy's talent. Theron is good but since I didn't care about her character at all the fact she's the lead character and the entire story is essentially about her the movie really went nowhere for me.

The action scenes often felt cartoonish, especially the earlier one where Max is on the front of a car. I couldn't take any of it seriously or enjoy it because it looked so ridiculous with the hyper-speeded up filming. I thought all of them paled to the greatness of The Road Warrior and even the first film. Those two films felt real with their action scenes. There's even one scene in the first film where one of the stuntmen was actually hit in the head by a motorcycle and that stayed in the film.

this is the 4th film in the series and yet you are comparing it to the 1st of fast and furious in terms of character development?

I honestly don't think this film has any meaningful connection to the earlier films other than Hardy's character shares the same name as Gibson's. Max in this film isn't close to the impactful character we saw in the earlier films. He's a secondary character whose role and importance to the story could have been replaced by anyone. My comment was mostly in jest although I did enjoy the first Fast and Furious film more than this one and the characters in that film (played by actors far less talented than Hardy and Theron) were far more engaging for me. I really thought this film was a huge disappointment. I'm an enormous Mad Max fan but this film pretty much stunk for me. Some nice visuals, but action scenes were often completely ridiculous due to the hyper-kinetic pacing and what story there was lacked a compelling reason for me to get invested in it.

I'm not sure there's been a less deserving film nominated for Best Picture in years, maybe ever. Just my two cents as a Packers fan.

I didn't realize you were a packers fan, too distracted by scarlett's golden globes to look higher than that

 

[packersfan]

is this like fast and the furious?

I think Vin Diesel and Paul Walker both have more fully developed characters in their first film than Max had in this one. This was an epic waste of Hardy's talent. Theron is good but since I didn't care about her character at all the fact she's the lead character and the entire story is essentially about her the movie really went nowhere for me.

The action scenes often felt cartoonish, especially the earlier one where Max is on the front of a car. I couldn't take any of it seriously or enjoy it because it looked so ridiculous with the hyper-speeded up filming. I thought all of them paled to the greatness of The Road Warrior and even the first film. Those two films felt real with their action scenes. There's even one scene in the first film where one of the stuntmen was actually hit in the head by a motorcycle and that stayed in the film.

this is the 4th film in the series and yet you are comparing it to the 1st of fast and furious in terms of character development?

I honestly don't think this film has any meaningful connection to the earlier films other than Hardy's character shares the same name as Gibson's. Max in this film isn't close to the impactful character we saw in the earlier films. He's a secondary character whose role and importance to the story could have been replaced by anyone. My comment was mostly in jest although I did enjoy the first Fast and Furious film more than this one and the characters in that film (played by actors far less talented than Hardy and Theron) were far more engaging for me. I really thought this film was a huge disappointment. I'm an enormous Mad Max fan but this film pretty much stunk for me. Some nice visuals, but action scenes were often completely ridiculous due to the hyper-kinetic pacing and what story there was lacked a compelling reason for me to get invested in it.

I'm not sure there's been a less deserving film nominated for Best Picture in years, maybe ever. Just my two cents as a Packers fan.

I didn't realize you were a packers fan, too distracted by scarlett's golden globes to look higher than that

Zow took a shot at me for being a Packers fan earlier so the comment really wasn't directed at you.

 

[packersfan]

Character development and Fast and Furious. I really FEEL Vin Diesels pain.

I think you may have missed my point.

 

[Worm]

This was Furiosa's film. Max is the central character of the world, of the series, but this was her film and her battle.

Between the brief intro monologue, the flashbacks, and Max's actions, I think he was developed appropriately. You know who he is. You don't know his whole backstory, but you can say the same about some new Star Wars characters. That doesn't make them bad, underdeveloped characters. Just my opinion.

 

[hagmania]

Great to see this film go all the way and get the Oscar nominations. Wonder if a sequal of sorts is in the works. They have hit a nerve with over 40 year old males wanting to see rock n roll in their cinema.

What's next, Guns n Roses reunites?

It won't be George Miller if there is another - confirmed he is directing no more Mad Max films.

 

[The General]

Character development and Fast and Furious. I really FEEL Vin Diesels pain.

I think you may have missed my point.

I just saw character development and Fast and Furious being linked somehow. Definitely disagree with the take away that this movie really needed any additional character stuff. Was Tom Hardy wasted, sure. This has kind of become his thing, grunting guy.

 

[packersfan]

Character development and Fast and Furious. I really FEEL Vin Diesels pain.

I think you may have missed my point.

I just saw character development and Fast and Furious being linked somehow. Definitely disagree with the take away that this movie really needed any additional character stuff. Was Tom Hardy wasted, sure. This has kind of become his thing, grunting guy.

I wanted a story that was engaging to me, characters I wanted to watch in that story and I really didn't like seeing Max become a completely meaningless character in a Mad Max film. I didn't expect this film to be Schlinder's List but I was hoping for a really great Mad Max film. Instead, this was a waste of my time.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

We did it, guys! 10 Oscar nominations, including best picture!

Terrible

 

[Chadstroma]

I think the big problem was the angle you start with the movie (Mad Max) and then where it was carried through with an angle of the Imperator and the Breeders but there was not a lot of work to get you bought into the girls other than they are attractive women fleeing a ugly dude that locked them up. You somewhat lost the connection to Max because of this being a reboot and any connection you did still have was lost when he was not really the central figure. Honestly, the guy that I ended up having the most connection with was Nux.

Not bad but not great either. Best picture nomination? Wow. Ok.

 

[shadyridr]

It belongs in the best picture nom for some of its technical achievements like special efx, sound, music, direction just like gravity did. There are other things that make a great picture besides dialog. Does it deserve to win? Probably not but out definitely deserved a nom

 

[Chadstroma]

It belongs in the best picture nom for some of its technical achievements like special efx, sound, music, direction just like gravity did. There are other things that make a great picture besides dialog. Does it deserve to win? Probably not but out definitely deserved a nom

I don't know. Best Picture to me means it is one of the best pictures- as a whole, for that year. Add everything up and it was 'wow- this was one of the best pictures' kind of response. I think they have specific categories for special efx, sound, music, direction etc.

There certainly was a lot good about the film. I am not a hater. A bit on the disappointed side as a long time big fan of Mad Max but no where did I hate it or even dislike it. Just a little surprised it make best picture nomination level.

 

[Chadstroma]

It belongs in the best picture nom for some of its technical achievements like special efx, sound, music, direction just like gravity did. There are other things that make a great picture besides dialog. Does it deserve to win? Probably not but out definitely deserved a nom

I don't know. Best Picture to me means it is one of the best pictures- as a whole, for that year. Add everything up and it was 'wow- this was one of the best pictures' kind of response. I think they have specific categories for special efx, sound, music, direction etc.

There certainly was a lot good about the film. I am not a hater. A bit on the disappointed side as a long time big fan of Mad Max but no where did I hate it or even dislike it. Just a little surprised it make best picture nomination level.

On second thought- it may be a political thing from the academy. Loving the fact that a female basically took the lead from what could be seen as one of the classic male dominated film series. I am sure that helped in some ways.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

It belongs in the best picture nom for some of its technical achievements like special efx, sound, music, direction just like gravity did. There are other things that make a great picture besides dialog. Does it deserve to win? Probably not but out definitely deserved a nom

Can't agree with that. Just because a movie looks great doesn't mean it is a great movie. There has to be substance underneath the style. And "Gravity" shouldn't have been nominated either.

 

[shadyridr]

When you have ten nominations there is room for movies that aren't perfect. Ten perfect movies never come out in the same year.

 

[packersfan]

When you have ten nominations there is room for movies that aren't perfect. Ten perfect movies never come out in the same year.

Increasing the nominations to 10 was an idiotic decision. A film like this one getting nominated is a good example why.