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[jdoggydogg]

In the pitch meeting with Draper and Hilton, the first time Hilton mentions "the moon" I thought Hilton was nuts. The second time, it felt more metaphorical - like "give me the the best ad campaign you have," as in "give me the moon."

I'm sure it was. People like Hilton don't build their empires by being nice. Rather they manipulate people. That's exactly what he was doing with Don. Just like calling Don at home in the middle of the night. At the meeting, Connie was just letting everyone know who is in charge.

Excellent post.

 

[Big Blue Wrecking Crew]

I've also unexpectedly been loving Connie Hilton. Great character.

He's also the pitcher from "Major League"..."F you Jobu"

 

[turleyfan]

Dunno if this has been mentioned, but January Jones is kinda purty. Lotta cheating going on in the 60's, eh? I'd be shocked if either of my parents messed around, but who knows.

I don't know if there was more cheating going on back then in general. I think it has more to do with the type of people the show focuses on...men that have too much money, too much freedom, and too much ego. Replace ad-men in the 50s-60s with Wall Street guys in the 80s-90s and you'll probably see the same thing.

Why do you think Betty gave Henry a little taste in his office, then walked out leaving him with a bulge?Was that her way of showing him she's in charge after still being pissed that he didn't show up at the house?

Her little girl / princess fantasy didn't include doing it on a desk behind a locked door. He doesn't know what she wants because she doesn't know what she wants... but she knows that wasn't it.

 

[zamboni]

Dunno if this has been mentioned, but January Jones is kinda purty.

Lotta cheating going on in the 60's, eh? I'd be shocked if either of my parents messed around, but who knows.

I don't know if there was more cheating going on back then in general. I think it has more to do with the type of people the show focuses on...men that have too much money, too much freedom, and too much ego. Replace ad-men in the 50s-60s with Wall Street guys in the 80s-90s and you'll probably see the same thing.

Why do you think Betty gave Henry a little taste in his office, then walked out leaving him with a bulge?Was that her way of showing him she's in charge after still being pissed that he didn't show up at the house?

She was making it clear she is the object of desire and will not be doing the chasing.

I don't think so. That would mean Henry will come back to her and they will do it. I think this is the end of Henry and Betty, before it even began. Lying on her fainting couch, she envisioned a romantic affair. When it came down to it and he wanted her on the desk of his office, she woke up out of the fantasy and went back to real life. Henry isn't getting another chance.

Probably.Betty is obviously very complex/schizo, but perhaps she liked the idea of the affair more than the affair itself. Once it was there for the taking, she may have lost interest.

Nothing would be better than a Betty/teacher sandwich though.

 

[RudiStein]

Betty is obviously very complex/schizo, but perhaps she liked the idea of the affair more than the affair itself. Once it was there for the taking, she may have lost interest.

 

[Major]

Betty is obviously very complex/schizo, but perhaps she liked the idea of the affair more than the affair itself. Once it was there for the taking, she may have lost interest.

I disagree. Henry totally blew this one. If he threw out a couple of negs and wore goggles, she'd be all over him.

 

[jwb]

After the first episode of this season, I'd figured that Don's feelings towards Sal (and homosexuals in general) would be laissez faire. Guess not.

I felt bad for Sal. Poor guy. I wonder how they're going to work in him and Joan now that they're gone or if they'll just be passive characters going forward. I think both characters add a lot to the show so I hope they keep them around.

I really think we may have seen their last scenes. With Joan, she kind of screwed up her professional life by being "the wife".

Sal... just the reality of the time.

I don't see how either fits back into the show. There was some closure with both. Joan got another "not quite as good" job, and Sal finally gave in to his nature. No need to really follow those characters anymore.

 

[Walton Goggins]

GQ Enhance January Jones' Chest?

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

Another excellent ep.

Don's life is under siege.

I wonder who will buy out SC? Who owns "Don Draper" for the next three years? What will Betty do - she has him by the short hairs -- she could have him sent to prison as a deserter.

Peggy doesn't even need Don anymore - plus she may have more loyalty to Duck.

 

[Christo]

Another excellent ep.

Don's life is under siege.

I wonder who will buy out SC? Who owns "Don Draper" for the next three years? What will Betty do - she has him by the short hairs -- she could have him sent to prison as a deserter.

Peggy doesn't even need Don anymore - plus she may have more loyalty to Duck.

And he doesn't even know it yet.There's an old British sitcom called The Fall and Rise of Reginald Perrin. An executive is overwhelmed by his everyday life. He gets more reckless as time goes on trying to mentally escape. When the mental escape no longer works, he fakes his own death by leaving his clothes at the beach. He assumes a different identity and takes on odd jobs for a living. But he eventually tires of being away from his family and returns. He reveals himself to his family but maintains his other identity to outsiders. He even starts working for his old company under the new identity. Slowly the same anxieties return. The series ends with him contemplating leaving his clothes at the beach again. It's up to the viewer to conclude whether he's thinking about faking his death again or actually walking into the sea.

There may be a few parallels coming for Don.

 

[RudiStein]

Another excellent ep.

Don's life is under siege.

I wonder who will buy out SC? Who owns "Don Draper" for the next three years? What will Betty do - she has him by the short hairs -- she could have him sent to prison as a deserter.

Peggy doesn't even need Don anymore - plus she may have more loyalty to Duck.

And he doesn't even know it yet.There's an old British sitcom called The Fall and Rise of Reginald Perrin. An executive is overwhelmed by his everyday life. He gets more reckless as time goes on trying to mentally escape. When the mental escape no longer works, he fakes his own death by leaving his clothes at the beach. He assumes a different identity and takes on odd jobs for a living. But he eventually tires of being away from his family and returns. He reveals himself to his family but maintains his other identity to outsiders. He even starts working for his old company under the new identity. Slowly the same anxieties return. The series ends with him contemplating leaving his clothes at the beach again. It's up to the viewer to conclude whether he's thinking about faking his death again or actually walking into the sea.

There may be a few parallels coming for Don.

Spoiler?

 

[Christo]

Another excellent ep.

Don's life is under siege.

I wonder who will buy out SC? Who owns "Don Draper" for the next three years? What will Betty do - she has him by the short hairs -- she could have him sent to prison as a deserter.

Peggy doesn't even need Don anymore - plus she may have more loyalty to Duck.

And he doesn't even know it yet.There's an old British sitcom called The Fall and Rise of Reginald Perrin. An executive is overwhelmed by his everyday life. He gets more reckless as time goes on trying to mentally escape. When the mental escape no longer works, he fakes his own death by leaving his clothes at the beach. He assumes a different identity and takes on odd jobs for a living. But he eventually tires of being away from his family and returns. He reveals himself to his family but maintains his other identity to outsiders. He even starts working for his old company under the new identity. Slowly the same anxieties return. The series ends with him contemplating leaving his clothes at the beach again. It's up to the viewer to conclude whether he's thinking about faking his death again or actually walking into the sea.

There may be a few parallels coming for Don.

Spoiler?

I thought it tied in well with the scene where Don was standing in the Pacific.

 

[Walton Goggins]

Another excellent ep.Don's life is under siege.I wonder who will buy out SC? Who owns "Don Draper" for the next three years? What will Betty do - she has him by the short hairs -- she could have him sent to prison as a deserter.Peggy doesn't even need Don anymore - plus she may have more loyalty to Duck.

She won't put two and two together that Don isn't really Don. She is focused on seeing the divorce decree and will assume he is Don who simply got a divorce yet never told her.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Another excellent ep.Don's life is under siege.I wonder who will buy out SC? Who owns "Don Draper" for the next three years? What will Betty do - she has him by the short hairs -- she could have him sent to prison as a deserter.Peggy doesn't even need Don anymore - plus she may have more loyalty to Duck.

She won't put two and two together that Don isn't really Don. She is focused on seeing the divorce decree and will assume he is Don who simply got a divorce yet never told her.

I agree she wouldn't be able to figure out all the whole story from the sparse info in that shoe box. But all the #### Whitman stuff is in there. And there are boyhood pictures of Don identified as "**** and Adam." I think she has to know there's more going on than just a secret divorce.

 

[Christo]

Another excellent ep.Don's life is under siege.I wonder who will buy out SC? Who owns "Don Draper" for the next three years? What will Betty do - she has him by the short hairs -- she could have him sent to prison as a deserter.Peggy doesn't even need Don anymore - plus she may have more loyalty to Duck.

She won't put two and two together that Don isn't really Don. She is focused on seeing the divorce decree and will assume he is Don who simply got a divorce yet never told her.

She'd have to be pretty stupid. It showed her looking at pictures of him with the name **** written on the back.

 

[RudiStein]

Another excellent ep.Don's life is under siege.I wonder who will buy out SC? Who owns "Don Draper" for the next three years? What will Betty do - she has him by the short hairs -- she could have him sent to prison as a deserter.Peggy doesn't even need Don anymore - plus she may have more loyalty to Duck.

She won't put two and two together that Don isn't really Don. She is focused on seeing the divorce decree and will assume he is Don who simply got a divorce yet never told her.

I agree she wouldn't be able to figure out all the whole story from the sparse info in that shoe box. But all the #### Whitman stuff is in there. And there are boyhood pictures of Don identified as "**** and Adam." I think she has to know there's more going on than just a secret divorce.

 

[turleyfan]

Another excellent ep.Don's life is under siege.I wonder who will buy out SC? Who owns "Don Draper" for the next three years? What will Betty do - she has him by the short hairs -- she could have him sent to prison as a deserter.Peggy doesn't even need Don anymore - plus she may have more loyalty to Duck.

I think Duck's new company is the most likely suitor. Won't that be fun?

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Another excellent ep.Don's life is under siege.I wonder who will buy out SC? Who owns "Don Draper" for the next three years? What will Betty do - she has him by the short hairs -- she could have him sent to prison as a deserter.Peggy doesn't even need Don anymore - plus she may have more loyalty to Duck.

I think Duck's new company is the most likely suitor. Won't that be fun?

I thought Duck's company was a small operation. How could they afford to buy Sterling & Cooper?

 

[turleyfan]

Another excellent ep.Don's life is under siege.I wonder who will buy out SC? Who owns "Don Draper" for the next three years? What will Betty do - she has him by the short hairs -- she could have him sent to prison as a deserter.Peggy doesn't even need Don anymore - plus she may have more loyalty to Duck.

I think Duck's new company is the most likely suitor. Won't that be fun?

I thought Duck's company was a small operation. How could they afford to buy Sterling & Cooper?

I remembered incorrectly. I had confused Duck's company with the folks who were courting Draper awhile back.

 

[Walton Goggins]

Another excellent ep.Don's life is under siege.I wonder who will buy out SC? Who owns "Don Draper" for the next three years? What will Betty do - she has him by the short hairs -- she could have him sent to prison as a deserter.Peggy doesn't even need Don anymore - plus she may have more loyalty to Duck.

She won't put two and two together that Don isn't really Don. She is focused on seeing the divorce decree and will assume he is Don who simply got a divorce yet never told her.

I agree she wouldn't be able to figure out all the whole story from the sparse info in that shoe box. But all the #### Whitman stuff is in there. And there are boyhood pictures of Don identified as "**** and Adam." I think she has to know there's more going on than just a secret divorce.

His wife will be focused on his marriage/divorce. He can easily explain that **** was his friend who died in the war or something similar. I don't think he has photos of him as a child for her to see that he is not Don.

 

[Walton Goggins]

Another excellent ep.Don's life is under siege.I wonder who will buy out SC? Who owns "Don Draper" for the next three years? What will Betty do - she has him by the short hairs -- she could have him sent to prison as a deserter.Peggy doesn't even need Don anymore - plus she may have more loyalty to Duck.

She won't put two and two together that Don isn't really Don. She is focused on seeing the divorce decree and will assume he is Don who simply got a divorce yet never told her.

She'd have to be pretty stupid. It showed her looking at pictures of him with the name **** written on the back.

Until she got to the divorce decree then she stopped looking at the photos and war tags.

 

[Christo]

Another excellent ep.Don's life is under siege.I wonder who will buy out SC? Who owns "Don Draper" for the next three years? What will Betty do - she has him by the short hairs -- she could have him sent to prison as a deserter.Peggy doesn't even need Don anymore - plus she may have more loyalty to Duck.

She won't put two and two together that Don isn't really Don. She is focused on seeing the divorce decree and will assume he is Don who simply got a divorce yet never told her.

She'd have to be pretty stupid. It showed her looking at pictures of him with the name **** written on the back.

Until she got to the divorce decree then she stopped looking at the photos and war tags.

So?

 

[Walton Goggins]

Another excellent ep.Don's life is under siege.I wonder who will buy out SC? Who owns "Don Draper" for the next three years? What will Betty do - she has him by the short hairs -- she could have him sent to prison as a deserter.Peggy doesn't even need Don anymore - plus she may have more loyalty to Duck.

She won't put two and two together that Don isn't really Don. She is focused on seeing the divorce decree and will assume he is Don who simply got a divorce yet never told her.

She'd have to be pretty stupid. It showed her looking at pictures of him with the name **** written on the back.

Until she got to the divorce decree then she stopped looking at the photos and war tags.

So?

He can easily explain the photos / tags so that shouldn't be an issue. The issue with her if she brings it up will be his divorce. His secret should be held intact.

 

[RudiStein]

He can easily explain the photos / tags so that shouldn't be an issue. The issue with her if she brings it up will be his divorce. His secret should be held intact.

Hmmm...I would think that one would lead to the other.

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

If campbell can figure it out....

What happens if she brings this info to one of her family's attorneys?

He could be all kinds of screwed. Plus, He's alienated Sterling and ticked off Cooper.

 

[Christo]

He can easily explain the photos / tags so that shouldn't be an issue. The issue with her if she brings it up will be his divorce. His secret should be held intact.

Hmmm...I would think that one would lead to the other.

That and the fact that one of the pictures showed him as a teenager.>No, Betty. That's my identical twin, ****. I've never mentioned him before. And he just happens to have a different last name than me.

>Oh, okay.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

She'd have to be pretty stupid. It showed her looking at pictures of him with the name **** written on the back.

Until she got to the divorce decree then she stopped looking at the photos and war tags.

Yeah, and then she told Carla to take the kids to the park for a few hours. What do you think she was doing during that time?

 

[Walton Goggins]

He can easily explain the photos / tags so that shouldn't be an issue. The issue with her if she brings it up will be his divorce. His secret should be held intact.

Hmmm...I would think that one would lead to the other.

This was my childhood friend / this was my friend who died in the war when I was with him. His job is built on lies and manipulation so whatever he says he'll convince her.

 

[Walton Goggins]

He can easily explain the photos / tags so that shouldn't be an issue. The issue with her if she brings it up will be his divorce. His secret should be held intact.

Hmmm...I would think that one would lead to the other.

That and the fact that one of the pictures showed him as a teenager.>No, Betty. That's my identical twin, ****. I've never mentioned him before. And he just happens to have a different last name than me.

>Oh, okay.

Look, if the show goes to Betty knowing his past life, the show is over and his mystique is over. The main point of the show is Don living a lie, another person.Betty, are you listening to yourself now? What you are saying, that I am some other person, do you need to go back and see the shrink?

None of those photos looked like him and he shouldn't have a problem convincing her. Plus she'll be concerned on the obvious, that he has a divorce decree.

 

[Christo]

He can easily explain the photos / tags so that shouldn't be an issue. The issue with her if she brings it up will be his divorce. His secret should be held intact.

Hmmm...I would think that one would lead to the other.

That and the fact that one of the pictures showed him as a teenager.>No, Betty. That's my identical twin, ****. I've never mentioned him before. And he just happens to have a different last name than me.

>Oh, okay.

Look, if the show goes to Betty knowing his past life, the show is over and his mystique is over. The main point of the show is Don living a lie, another person.Betty, are you listening to yourself now? What you are saying, that I am some other person, do you need to go back and see the shrink?

None of those photos looked like him and he shouldn't have a problem convincing her. Plus she'll be concerned on the obvious, that he has a divorce decree.

The one next to the car looked just like him.

 

[Walton Goggins]

She'd have to be pretty stupid. It showed her looking at pictures of him with the name **** written on the back.

Until she got to the divorce decree then she stopped looking at the photos and war tags.

Yeah, and then she told Carla to take the kids to the park for a few hours. What do you think she was doing during that time?

Stewing about why he was married. Did you see her finally put everything back and his keys in his robe and say nothing on the phone to Don?

 

[Christo]

She'd have to be pretty stupid. It showed her looking at pictures of him with the name **** written on the back.

Until she got to the divorce decree then she stopped looking at the photos and war tags.

Yeah, and then she told Carla to take the kids to the park for a few hours. What do you think she was doing during that time?

Stewing about why he was married. Did you see her finally put everything back and his keys in his robe and say nothing on the phone to Don?

So?

 

[Walton Goggins]

He can easily explain the photos / tags so that shouldn't be an issue. The issue with her if she brings it up will be his divorce. His secret should be held intact.

Hmmm...I would think that one would lead to the other.

That and the fact that one of the pictures showed him as a teenager.>No, Betty. That's my identical twin, ****. I've never mentioned him before. And he just happens to have a different last name than me.

>Oh, okay.

Look, if the show goes to Betty knowing his past life, the show is over and his mystique is over. The main point of the show is Don living a lie, another person.Betty, are you listening to yourself now? What you are saying, that I am some other person, do you need to go back and see the shrink?

None of those photos looked like him and he shouldn't have a problem convincing her. Plus she'll be concerned on the obvious, that he has a divorce decree.

The one next to the car looked just like him.

You need to go back and look at that scene again, the only photo that said "**** and Andy" was the one where they were little kids and didn't look anything like him.

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

She'd have to be pretty stupid. It showed her looking at pictures of him with the name **** written on the back.

Until she got to the divorce decree then she stopped looking at the photos and war tags.

Yeah, and then she told Carla to take the kids to the park for a few hours. What do you think she was doing during that time?

Same thing Kinsey was doing the night before?

 

[Walton Goggins]

She'd have to be pretty stupid. It showed her looking at pictures of him with the name **** written on the back.

Until she got to the divorce decree then she stopped looking at the photos and war tags.

Yeah, and then she told Carla to take the kids to the park for a few hours. What do you think she was doing during that time?

Stewing about why he was married. Did you see her finally put everything back and his keys in his robe and say nothing on the phone to Don?

So?

I answered his question, what I thought she was doing during that time.What's she going to do anyway, divorce him? No way.

 

[RudiStein]

Betty isn't stupid. In fact in the past she's shown to be shrewd and manipulative. When she found out Don was calling her shrink she used it to her advantage. She didn't go ape-crap and call him out.

Now in some cases she's been a bit naive but I don't think she's going to just let this Whitman/Draper thing walk on by.

 

[Christo]

What's she going to do anyway, divorce him? No way.

Why not? There are plenty of men who'd gladly take his place. The show's been very clear about that.

 

[RudiStein]

What's she going to do anyway, divorce him? No way.

Why not? There are plenty of men who'd gladly take his place. The show's been very clear about that.

But you have to remember the stigma that was attached to divorce back then. Remember the new neighbor with the creepy kid? How Betty and all the other broads treated her with both pity and contempt? It's not that easy for Betty.

 

[Christo]

What's she going to do anyway, divorce him? No way.

Why not? There are plenty of men who'd gladly take his place. The show's been very clear about that.

But you have to remember the stigma that was attached to divorce back then. Remember the new neighbor with the creepy kid? How Betty and all the other broads treated her with both pity and contempt? It's not that easy for Betty.

They treated her that way because they were afraid she was going to tempt their husbands. An idea that came to fruition when Roger left his wife for Jane.

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

Did Kinsey shake Achellies' hand after he finished his polishing?

 

[RudiStein]

What's she going to do anyway, divorce him? No way.

Why not? There are plenty of men who'd gladly take his place. The show's been very clear about that.

But you have to remember the stigma that was attached to divorce back then. Remember the new neighbor with the creepy kid? How Betty and all the other broads treated her with both pity and contempt? It's not that easy for Betty.

They treated her that way because they were afraid she was going to tempt their husbands. An idea that came to fruition when Roger left his wife for Jane.

Jane wasn't a divorcee.

 

[Christo]

What's she going to do anyway, divorce him? No way.

Why not? There are plenty of men who'd gladly take his place. The show's been very clear about that.

But you have to remember the stigma that was attached to divorce back then. Remember the new neighbor with the creepy kid? How Betty and all the other broads treated her with both pity and contempt? It's not that easy for Betty.

They treated her that way because they were afraid she was going to tempt their husbands. An idea that came to fruition when Roger left his wife for Jane.

Jane wasn't a divorcee.

Doesn't matter.

 

[Walton Goggins]

What's she going to do anyway, divorce him? No way.

Why not? There are plenty of men who'd gladly take his place. The show's been very clear about that.

Show has been pretty clear she won't divorce him and won't because of the image she projects for starters. Remember the divorced woman from season one? No way will she want to be like her.

 

[Walton Goggins]

What's she going to do anyway, divorce him? No way.

Why not? There are plenty of men who'd gladly take his place. The show's been very clear about that.

But you have to remember the stigma that was attached to divorce back then. Remember the new neighbor with the creepy kid? How Betty and all the other broads treated her with both pity and contempt? It's not that easy for Betty.

They treated her that way because they were afraid she was going to tempt their husbands. An idea that came to fruition when Roger left his wife for Jane.

As they would with Betty if she went down that road. She won't divorce him.

 

[Major]

I haven't had the chance to read the recent posts but last night's episode was stellar. Betty looking at Don as he smiled and accepted praise during the party was top notch.

 

[gump]

Great ep. I loved the moment when no one spoke at the other end of the phone...and Don and Betty looked at each other, each wondering if the other was suspicious.

 

[jamny]

Great ep. I loved the moment when no one spoke at the other end of the phone...and Don and Betty looked at each other, each wondering if the other was suspicious.

Loved that too. Usually it's just Don worried who's calling. Unless it was just a wrong number, it's seems as if the teacher was the one on the other end of the phone. She's a bit crazy and big trouble for Don. Henry know he's dealing with a child in Betty and isn't going to play games. I also liked Paul finally realizing that Peggy is just better than him, nothing personal. What did Don mean when talking to the teachers brother when he said something like "I promised I'd do it right this time"The british guy should tell his wife that at least they're not living in Bombay...yet.Don will get out of this with Betty as usual. He actually might even tell her the truth.Best episode of the season, imo

 

[IDrinkyourMilkshake]

I haven't had the chance to read the recent posts but last night's episode was stellar. Betty looking at Don as he smiled and accepted praise during the party was top notch.

She is going to kill him in his sleep.

 

[-jb-]

What did Don mean when talking to the teachers brother when he said something like "I promised I'd do it right this time"

Would have to assume that there was an association with his own brother, and how he handled that. Didn't work out too well.

 

[Christo]

What did Don mean when talking to the teachers brother when he said something like "I promised I'd do it right this time"

Would have to assume that there was an association with his own brother, and how he handled that. Didn't work out too well.

That's what I got from it too.