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[turleyfan]

What did Don mean when talking to the teachers brother when he said something like "I promised I'd do it right this time"

Would have to assume that there was an association with his own brother, and how he handled that. Didn't work out too well.

That's what I got from it too.

Underscored by his statement that if something happened to him, "your sister would never forgive herself". Speaking from experience there, I reckon.

 

[Jefferson the Caregiver]

After the first episode of this season, I'd figured that Don's feelings towards Sal (and homosexuals in general) would be laissez faire. Guess not.

I think his attitude is that, but it can't get in the way of business.Sal would have been fired for any number of things if a big client like Lucky Strike threatened to walk away.

This was plain and simple a business decision, it had nothing to do with his attitude toward gays.

 

[Please See Mine]

After the first episode of this season, I'd figured that Don's feelings towards Sal (and homosexuals in general) would be laissez faire. Guess not.

I think his attitude is that, but it can't get in the way of business.Sal would have been fired for any number of things if a big client like Lucky Strike threatened to walk away.

This was plain and simple a business decision, it had nothing to do with his attitude toward gays.

I agree. He had the one comment about "you people", but Don would never make a business decision based on someone's personal attributes (other than being good for business). To wit, Peggy and Kurt.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Who was the guy at the house when they went trick or treating at the end? I can't place who he was.

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

Hamm's performance during the "confession" was devastating.

From dropping the cigarette to the look of despair as he talks of his brother's suicide, he brought his A-Game tonight.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Was Don lying to Betty when he said he switched identities to get out of Korea? I don't see how that story makes any sense. I thought he switched identities because he didn't want to be poor white trash.

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

Was Don lying to Betty when he said he switched identities to get out of Korea? I don't see how that story makes any sense. I thought he switched identities because he didn't want to be poor white trash.

he's a deserter. Lt. Don Draper blew up. **** Whitman switched dog tags, beacuse he knew Draper's tour of duty was almost over, and with his injuries, he'd be done with the war.Good plan until Adam thought he saw him on the train when they dropped off "**** Whitman's" casket, and Don Draper's wife tracked him down.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Was Don lying to Betty when he said he switched identities to get out of Korea? I don't see how that story makes any sense. I thought he switched identities because he didn't want to be poor white trash.

he's a deserter. Lt. Don Draper blew up. **** Whitman switched dog tags, beacuse he knew Draper's tour of duty was almost over, and with his injuries, he'd be done with the war.Good plan until Adam thought he saw him on the train when they dropped off "**** Whitman's" casket, and Don Draper's wife tracked him down.

I feel like an idiot that I've watched every episode but missed this key fact. I never really fully understood the motivation for the identity switch. I thought Draper was sent home because he was injured, not because his tour was over.

 

[Christo]

Was Don lying to Betty when he said he switched identities to get out of Korea? I don't see how that story makes any sense. I thought he switched identities because he didn't want to be poor white trash.

he's a deserter. Lt. Don Draper blew up. **** Whitman switched dog tags, beacuse he knew Draper's tour of duty was almost over, and with his injuries, he'd be done with the war.Good plan until Adam thought he saw him on the train when they dropped off "**** Whitman's" casket, and Don Draper's wife tracked him down.

I feel like an idiot that I've watched every episode but missed this key fact. I never really fully understood the motivation for the identity switch. I thought Draper was sent home because he was injured, not because his tour was over.

I think it's both. **** saw an opportunity for a clean break. Both out of Korea and with a new identity.

 

[Christo]

What's she going to do anyway, divorce him? No way.

Why not? There are plenty of men who'd gladly take his place. The show's been very clear about that.

Show has been pretty clear she won't divorce him and won't because of the image she projects for starters. Remember the divorced woman from season one? No way will she want to be like her.

Wow. Could you have been more wrong? Figuring out it was Don in the pictures, consulting an attorney about how to protect herself financially and providing herself with a place to live should she decide to divorce Don.She may not actually divorce him. But it'll have nothing to do with the stigma.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

She may not actually divorce him. But it'll have nothing to do with the stigma.

I thought the implied sentiment from the lawyer was "you better think really hard before you divorce him because of what it will do to your social status."

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

What's she going to do anyway, divorce him? No way.

Why not? There are plenty of men who'd gladly take his place. The show's been very clear about that.

Show has been pretty clear she won't divorce him and won't because of the image she projects for starters. Remember the divorced woman from season one? No way will she want to be like her.

Wow. Could you have been more wrong? Figuring out it was Don in the pictures, consulting an attorney about how to protect herself financially and providing herself with a place to live should she decide to divorce Don.She may not actually divorce him. But it'll have nothing to do with the stigma.

She seems to be keeping him at arms length. I don't think she knows what she wants, but, it seems her options are limited.

 

[RudiStein]

Who was the guy at the house when they went trick or treating at the end? I can't place who he was.

That was Carlton, Francine's husband. He's been in few episodes. Mostly over at the Drapers as a "Carlton, Francine's Husband Slash Neighbor Guy". I think it was his kid that got slapped for knocking over a drink at Sally's birthday party.Oh and he cheated on Francine with some 'woman in the city' which her to confide in Betty. That's what prompted Betty to check their phone bill to see if Don was doing the same.

 

[Christo]

She may not actually divorce him. But it'll have nothing to do with the stigma.

I thought the implied sentiment from the lawyer was "you better think really hard before you divorce him because of what it will do to your social status."

I think the lawyer's name was Walton Goggins.

 

[RudiStein]

I have no idea what the current argument is but I don't see Betty going ahead with a divorce. Mainly because she bought Don's story behind what was in the box. She also go to see a totally different side to Don.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

I have no idea what the current argument is

I don't think there is one. This is the most pleasant conversation I've ever had with Christo.

 

[RudiStein]

I have no idea what the current argument is

I don't think there is one. This is the most pleasant conversation I've ever had with Christo.

 

[Raider Nation]

Who was the guy at the house when they went trick or treating at the end? I can't place who he was.

That was Carlton, Francine's husband.

"Well, what do we have here? A gypsy... a hobo... And who are you supposed to be?"

Outstanding. Easily the finest show on television.

 

[Raider Nation]

Hamm's performance during the "confession" was devastating.From dropping the cigarette to the look of despair as he talks of his brother's suicide, he brought his A-Game tonight.

He totally KILLED it. Didn't know Hamm had that in him. You could feel Draper's pain.

 

[turleyfan]

I have no idea what the current argument is but I don't see Betty going ahead with a divorce. Mainly because she bought Don's story behind what was in the box. She also go to see a totally different side to Don.

Betty, I believe you already know Don Draper. Now meet **** Whitman.

 

[RudiStein]

Hamm's performance during the "confession" was devastating.From dropping the cigarette to the look of despair as he talks of his brother's suicide, he brought his A-Game tonight.

He totally KILLED it. Didn't know Hamm had that in him. You could feel Draper's pain.

Yep. Absolutely brilliant. I also thought Slattery did a very good job this EP as well. And like Draper, it was interesting to see another side of Roger.

 

[anakin]

I have no idea what the current argument is but I don't see Betty going ahead with a divorce. Mainly because she bought Don's story behind what was in the box. She also go to see a totally different side to Don.

She didn't buy anything. I'm surprised Don told her the truth. Maybe it is me, but it seemed she actually felt a bit better about their relationship now that she knows a secret about him. Or maybe at least more in control.

 

[RudiStein]

I have no idea what the current argument is but I don't see Betty going ahead with a divorce. Mainly because she bought Don's story behind what was in the box. She also go to see a totally different side to Don.

She didn't buy anything. I'm surprised Don told her the truth. Maybe it is me, but it seemed she actually felt a bit better about their relationship now that she knows a secret about him. Or maybe at least more in control.

I suppose I should have said "she believed him". Oh and she definitely loves that fact that she has something on Don. She's manipulative to the core.

 

[fissure man]

Who was the guy at the house when they went trick or treating at the end? I can't place who he was.

That was Carlton, Francine's husband.

"Well, what do we have here? A gypsy... a hobo... And who are you supposed to be?"

Outstanding. Easily the finest show on television.

Love the writing for this show.I only have one complain about the last episode: where was Pete?!

 

[fissure man]

Hamm's performance during the "confession" was devastating.From dropping the cigarette to the look of despair as he talks of his brother's suicide, he brought his A-Game tonight.

He totally KILLED it. Didn't know Hamm had that in him. You could feel Draper's pain.

Pretty sure he was playing it up for Betty.

 

[Raider Nation]

Hamm's performance during the "confession" was devastating.From dropping the cigarette to the look of despair as he talks of his brother's suicide, he brought his A-Game tonight.

He totally KILLED it. Didn't know Hamm had that in him. You could feel Draper's pain.

Pretty sure he was playing it up for Betty.

I didn't get that at all. He was self-cleansing. In fact, I think this revelation may lead to stability and renewed love/committment in their marriage.

 

[Major]

Hamm's performance during the "confession" was devastating.From dropping the cigarette to the look of despair as he talks of his brother's suicide, he brought his A-Game tonight.

He totally KILLED it. Didn't know Hamm had that in him. You could feel Draper's pain.

You saw **** Whittman there.

 

[fissure man]

Hamm's performance during the "confession" was devastating.From dropping the cigarette to the look of despair as he talks of his brother's suicide, he brought his A-Game tonight.

He totally KILLED it. Didn't know Hamm had that in him. You could feel Draper's pain.

Pretty sure he was playing it up for Betty.

I didn't get that at all. He was self-cleansing. In fact, I think this revelation may lead to stability and renewed love/committment in their marriage.

That scene made me wanna puke. That was why I loved the neighbor's line even more.

 

[Major]

Hamm's performance during the "confession" was devastating.

From dropping the cigarette to the look of despair as he talks of his brother's suicide, he brought his A-Game tonight.

He totally KILLED it. Didn't know Hamm had that in him. You could feel Draper's pain.

Yep. Absolutely brilliant. I also thought Slattery did a very good job this EP as well. And like Draper, it was interesting to see another side of Roger.

Roger is the man. Loved that line about him telling her she made a pass at him.

 

[fissure man]

Hamm's performance during the "confession" was devastating.From dropping the cigarette to the look of despair as he talks of his brother's suicide, he brought his A-Game tonight.

He totally KILLED it. Didn't know Hamm had that in him. You could feel Draper's pain.

You saw **** Whittman there.

That was **** crying for himself, not his poor brother.

 

[RudiStein]

Hamm's performance during the "confession" was devastating.From dropping the cigarette to the look of despair as he talks of his brother's suicide, he brought his A-Game tonight.

He totally KILLED it. Didn't know Hamm had that in him. You could feel Draper's pain.

You saw **** Whittman there.

That was **** crying for himself, not his poor brother.

I guess I'm not that cynical.

 

[fissure man]

Hamm's performance during the "confession" was devastating.

From dropping the cigarette to the look of despair as he talks of his brother's suicide, he brought his A-Game tonight.

He totally KILLED it. Didn't know Hamm had that in him. You could feel Draper's pain.

Yep. Absolutely brilliant. I also thought Slattery did a very good job this EP as well. And like Draper, it was interesting to see another side of Roger.

Roger is the man. Loved that line about him telling her she made a pass at him.

Word. I didn't like how **** was mean to Roger all season.

 

[Walton Goggins]

What's she going to do anyway, divorce him? No way.

Why not? There are plenty of men who'd gladly take his place. The show's been very clear about that.

Show has been pretty clear she won't divorce him and won't because of the image she projects for starters. Remember the divorced woman from season one? No way will she want to be like her.

Wow. Could you have been more wrong? Figuring out it was Don in the pictures, consulting an attorney about how to protect herself financially and providing herself with a place to live should she decide to divorce Don.She may not actually divorce him. But it'll have nothing to do with the stigma.

We are all guessing but I feel confident that Betty won't divorce him, even her lawyer gave her sound advice and of course part of it is stigma.

 

[Walton Goggins]

She may not actually divorce him. But it'll have nothing to do with the stigma.

I thought the implied sentiment from the lawyer was "you better think really hard before you divorce him because of what it will do to your social status."

I think the lawyer's name was Walton Goggins.

 

[Walton Goggins]

I have no idea what the current argument is but I don't see Betty going ahead with a divorce. Mainly because she bought Don's story behind what was in the box. She also go to see a totally different side to Don.

Get a husband to break down and cry to his wife in that time works wonders. It was clear at the end when she asked him if he was hungry and wanted ALL of the family to be part of the trick or treat festivities that she's moved on. I think next week's episode Betty mentions about how to keep it a secret.

 

[Walton Goggins]

I have no idea what the current argument is but I don't see Betty going ahead with a divorce. Mainly because she bought Don's story behind what was in the box. She also go to see a totally different side to Don.

She didn't buy anything. I'm surprised Don told her the truth. Maybe it is me, but it seemed she actually felt a bit better about their relationship now that she knows a secret about him. Or maybe at least more in control.

Betty's lawyer made it clear that she has no control. Hell he even said he told his own daughter the same thing "make it work".

 

[jdoggydogg]

What did Don mean when talking to the teachers brother when he said something like "I promised I'd do it right this time"

Would have to assume that there was an association with his own brother, and how he handled that. Didn't work out too well.

That's what I got from it too.

Thanks to both of you for pointing that out. I missed that.

 

[jdoggydogg]

After the first episode of this season, I'd figured that Don's feelings towards Sal (and homosexuals in general) would be laissez faire. Guess not.

I think his attitude is that, but it can't get in the way of business.Sal would have been fired for any number of things if a big client like Lucky Strike threatened to walk away.

This was plain and simple a business decision, it had nothing to do with his attitude toward gays.

I agree. He had the one comment about "you people", but Don would never make a business decision based on someone's personal attributes (other than being good for business). To wit, Peggy and Kurt.

My neighbor across the street hates Don Draper. She can't stand cheaters. I find it interesting that she said Draper fired Sal. He didn't fire Sal. He only backed up Sterling's decision - a decision that had to be made. And despite Draper's "you people" comment, Draper only backed up Sterling's call because it was the correct business decision.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I have no idea what the current argument is but I don't see Betty going ahead with a divorce. Mainly because she bought Don's story behind what was in the box. She also go to see a totally different side to Don.

She didn't buy anything. I'm surprised Don told her the truth. Maybe it is me, but it seemed she actually felt a bit better about their relationship now that she knows a secret about him. Or maybe at least more in control.

I suppose I should have said "she believed him". Oh and she definitely loves that fact that she has something on Don. She's manipulative to the core.

I don't think it's just that, though. She finally saw Draper in a vulnerable moment and he is practically impervious most days. I think that vulnerability will bring them closer together.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Great title for the show. Don is both a hobo and a gypsy.

 

[Team]

I have no idea what the current argument is but I don't see Betty going ahead with a divorce. Mainly because she bought Don's story behind what was in the box. She also go to see a totally different side to Don.

She didn't buy anything. I'm surprised Don told her the truth. Maybe it is me, but it seemed she actually felt a bit better about their relationship now that she knows a secret about him. Or maybe at least more in control.

Definitely on the control issue... Don checking with Betty to see if she was having something to eat before he answered as. Don offering to whichever she preferred, take the kids Trick or Treat or stay with the baby. He would've never put Betty first prior to the Whitman revelation. She will most definitely take advantage of this.

 

[The_Man]

what a great episode. Loved Roger's line, "You threw yourself at me and I turned you down." Also liked his slam on her when she tried to compare the end of their affair to Casablanca: "She got on a plane with a guy who was going to end World War II. You left with a guy who was going to run your father's horse meat company."

Hard to tell from the previews, but it sure looked to me like Duck's company is making a bid to buy Sterling Cooper in the next episode.

 

[fissure man]

Hamm's performance during the "confession" was devastating.From dropping the cigarette to the look of despair as he talks of his brother's suicide, he brought his A-Game tonight.

He totally KILLED it. Didn't know Hamm had that in him. You could feel Draper's pain.

You saw **** Whittman there.

That was **** crying for himself, not his poor brother.

I guess I'm not that cynical.

Did you know Matt Weiner won $16,000 as a contestant on "Jeopardy!"?

 

[Walton Goggins]

Great title for the show. Don is both a hobo and a gypsy.

He was never a hobo or a gypsy...the title referred to the costumes his children wore on Halloween.

 

[fissure man]

Great title for the show. Don is both a hobo and a gypsy.

He was never a hobo or a gypsy...the title referred to the costumes his children wore on Halloween.

More a slut than a ho.

 

[Walton Goggins]

Great title for the show. Don is both a hobo and a gypsy.

He was never a hobo or a gypsy...the title referred to the costumes his children wore on Halloween.

More a slut man than a ho.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Great title for the show. Don is both a hobo and a gypsy.

He was never a hobo or a gypsy...the title referred to the costumes his children wore on Halloween.

I take it you're trying to be funny.

 

[Raider Nation]

Great title for the show. Don is both a hobo and a gypsy.

He was never a hobo or a gypsy...the title referred to the costumes his children wore on Halloween.

I take it you're trying to be funny.

 

[Christo]

Great title for the show. Don is both a hobo and a gypsy.

He was never a hobo or a gypsy...the title referred to the costumes his children wore on Halloween.

Yes. As we've learned, everything about this show should be taken at face value.

 

[RudiStein]

Did you know Matt Weiner won $16,000 as a contestant on "Jeopardy!"?

Pffft...piker.