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I'm not assuming the bolded part is true.
Always been this way. Now though, with the prevalence of cameras and people recording a lot of these things, the curtain is being pulled back to an extent. Docs like this definitely impact my feelings on the death penalty. How can it not?
I'm not sure what she can do. He's exhausted his appeals.
So an extremely biased TV Movie is what you use to make your mind up on things and not all the evidence.
True, and that's what I meant to say, even though it didn't come out that way. They left SAYING that they believed he was guilty, beyond the shadow of a doubt, not necessarily believing that to be the case.
A long time ago. But, yeah, I know what you're saying. As soon as I typed that, I thought to myself "Well, I suppose that's why they call it 'deliberation'."
I agree. But i do think the local police enhanced some of the evidence against him. He did it but the case against him was solidified imo.
LOL... ok guy. TV movie... that's the kind of intellectually dishonest stuff that Mr. O'Donnell might say.
If you follow the evidence and seek the truth, you'll find more than enough questions to make a reasonable person unsure of Avery's guilt in the murder trial.
She called the Avery's first and left a message. They had an appointment together. He was returning her call. And there were 2 calls, like half hr apart.
He's a moron.
I can't recall the term... but it's something like, "eminent discovery" (but that's not it)... basically the argument is that it would've been found eventually so it doesn't matter that someone who wasn't supposed to be there was the one that found it.
Come to think of it, Alice was pretty stupid. No wonder the Brady house was spotless.
Agreed. I've read every article out there I think, including the ones with the "missing evidence" left out from the documentary, and not one bit of it was damning enough to make a difference, IMO.
Interesting. Nothing new in that one really, that hasn't been covered in other articles, except for the interview with the makers, which I hadn't seen. Interesting bit about the juror that contacted them. A juror that had initially voted innocent and still believed Steven was framed. When asked why they changed their vote, they said because they feared for their physical safety.
Yea, my favorite from those (which Kratz whats going on about) was the "sweat DNA" under the hood. When
This is what I find odd. This is just accepted as fact as is everything else pointing to Avery doing it, but somehow everything else is questionable.
While technically sweat doesn't contain DNA in and of itself, skin cells often shed within sweat so you can quite often get DNA from sweat. Just like your saliva doesn't technically contain any DNA but there is almost always skin cells from the inside of your mouth which is why they ask for saliva and swab the inside of your mouth when they want a DNA sample. So while they can't scientifically say the DNA under the hood definitely came from sweat, they were making an assumption since no blood was found that he leaned over and sweat probably dripped off his head which I assume is where they got the whole "sweat DNA" thing. Now if that was deemed contaminated then this is all a moot point, but you can most definitely get DNA from sweat (you just can't confirm DNA you found came from sweat if that makes any sense)
Where are you getting this? I see tons of sites that mention sweat. At best it would seem you are arguing a technicality. Sweat doesnt have DNA!!!!! Oh yeah, but I forgot to tell you sweat has stuff in it that has DNA.
You have the facts wrong. Not one single bone was missing of the 270 in the human body if that number I said is accurate. All of her in pieces was found in his pit.
Bones or bone fragments were found in three places: the burn pit (where partial fragments were found of all bones below the neck), burn barrel number two, and a nearby quarry pile (not confirmed to be Halbach's, but not suspected to be anybody else's).
I thought the sequence was that Avery called autotrader and left his sister's name and number(I have seen some articles say that he only left first initial). Halbach calls back and leaves a message to his sister asking for the address. Avery calls her twice after this from his phone but uses *67 in doing so.
MT, let's not deal with little fragments, I'm telling you that not one bone of the 270 including the pinky finger was missing. You want to get into small chunks of bone. Her body, all of it hacked into pieces was found in that pit burned and interwoven with tires from the pit so she was burned right there, not dragged from somewhere else.
You make it sound like they found a leg in one place, arm in another, head over yonder...just foolish talk.
If you don't want to deal with fragments, they did not find 270 bones in the burn pit. They found zero bones in the burn pit. (All they found in the pit were bone fragments, not whole bones. And there were fragments in two other locations as well.)
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Holy crap! KP. Hacked MOP account
Looks like they slightly changed the link for that article, here is the good one now
And a family member says that Avery was working that pit well into the night.
If someone does not agree 100% with the 10 episode Netflix Entertainment Series then they shouldn't try to post in this thread? I gave a fairly lengthy post and feel comfortable with my position. If you all want to believe something else that's your call. I watched the Netflix series but I doubt many of you have searched out the missing facts not put in the Netflix series.
