Malcolm Brown Deep Dynasty Stash? (1 Viewer)

[zed2283]

Appeared to start over Gaskin and got all the work on the first couple of series.  Gaskin got his first carry after.

 

[zed2283]

Though he finished 9/8/0 and Gaskin finished 4/19/0.

 

[zamboni]

Though he finished 9/8/0 and Gaskin finished 4/19/0.

Not sure I’d read yet into the numbers or who starts. Could be that Flores knows what he has with Gaskin but not as much yet with Brown, and thus the latter got more run earlier.

 

[Sam Quentin]

Smells like a committee to me

 

[jtd13]

I find this very curious. I've been following posters on dolphins forum that are at camp practices, and them along with beat writers have been saying Gaskin is pretty much only getting reps with the ones during practice, and looking a bit bigger/more explosive than last year.

That doesn't mean it won't be some sort of committee (that seemed like the direction anyway). But I'm leaning toward the rotation today being more getting Brown up to speed in the offense, given Gaskin is in year 3 with these coaches. 

 

[Todem]

I find this very curious. I've been following posters on dolphins forum that are at camp practices, and them along with beat writers have been saying Gaskin is pretty much only getting reps with the ones during practice, and looking a bit bigger/more explosive than last year.

That doesn't mean it won't be some sort of committee (that seemed like the direction anyway). But I'm leaning toward the rotation today being more getting Brown up to speed in the offense, given Gaskin is in year 3 with these coaches. 

This is a 100% accurate. This is Gaskins gig. 

 

[zamboni]

This is a 100% accurate. This is Gaskins gig. 

If so, what is your takeaway about Flores’ earlier comment about all three guys being used?

 

[jtd13]

If so, what is your takeaway about Flores’ earlier comment about all three guys being used?

Not to speak for Todem, but Flo is generally not forthcoming with information in interviews. So I try not to read any more into comments he makes than I would someone like Bill Belicheck.

But he probably meant that they'll all be used. 9 of 10 games Gaskin played last year his snap share was below 75% (exception being against the rams, right after Howard was cut, and Breida got dinged up in the game). Before Howard was benched/cut it pretty much went Gaskin 60-65%, Breida 20-25%, Howard 10-15%. Maybe Flo would have called that "all 3 guys getting used." 

I'd definitely prefer they came out and said "Gaskin is the guy, we just wanted to help Brown get caught up with the offense". But I'm also learning toward this not being a huge change from the role Gaskin was expected to have, unless people thought he was going to get 80+% snap share before. 

 

[Todem]

If so, what is your takeaway about Flores’ earlier comment about all three guys being used?

I use my eyes and never listen to "coach speak”. Gaskin get’s 85% of the reps with the first teamer in practice, and clearly is the lead dog of the RBBC. 

I am not saying Brown can’t be useful......but they want him to be a goalie vulture and maybe a late game pounder with a lead. 

Gaskin is going to be the guy in on a lot of their spread formations, catch a lot of balls.

Ahmed Savon is the X factor though. They have been using him in the passing game as evidenced by his nice HB Wheel TD reception in week 1.

This Saturdays game will be a big indication of the general “script” of this offense. So let’s see how the dress rehearsal plays out for the first 2.5 quarters. 

My takeaway on Flores is.....that is Flores. Very typical Patriots talk. 
 

Full Disclosure.....I own none of them in Fantasy. I am a huge Dolphins fan and pay extremely close attention to the team and the roster.

 

[Todem]

Not to speak for Todem, but Flo is generally not forthcoming with information in interviews. So I try not to read any more into comments he makes than I would someone like Bill Belicheck.

But he probably meant that they'll all be used. 9 of 10 games Gaskin played last year his snap share was below 75% (exception being against the rams, right after Howard was cut, and Breida got dinged up in the game). Before Howard was benched/cut it pretty much went Gaskin 60-65%, Breida 20-25%, Howard 10-15%. Maybe Flo would have called that "all 3 guys getting used." 

I'd definitely prefer they came out and said "Gaskin is the guy, we just wanted to help Brown get caught up with the offense". But I'm also learning toward this not being a huge change from the role Gaskin was expected to have, unless people thought he was going to get 80+% snap share before. 

I think the meaningful snaps in the offense will be Gaskin’s And Brown and Ahmed are the specialty roles. 

I would not want any part of this RBBC to be honest. Gaskin should not be taken sooner than the 7th round (at the earliest) in a 12 team PPR redraft. In a standard score Brown may actually prove more valuable because he will get the goalline work if he earns it (not off to great start last week) as well as the clock management carries. But who knows.....Brown can’t create his own hole and space which leads me to.....

The OL is my primary concern for this team. They have not been impressive in this camp so far.

 

[JohnnyU]

I don't consider him a dynasty stash, but I do believe he will be a headache to Gaskins owners.

 

[jtd13]

I use my eyes and never listen to "coach speak”. Gaskin get’s 85% of the reps with the first teamer in practice, and clearly is the lead dog of the RBBC. 

I am not saying Brown can’t be useful......but they want him to be a goalie vulture and maybe a late game pounder with a lead. 

Gaskin is going to be the guy in on a lot of their spread formations, catch a lot of balls.

Ahmed Savon is the X factor though. They have been using him in the passing game as evidenced by his nice HB Wheel TD reception in week 1.

This Saturdays game will be a big indication of the general “script” of this offense. So let’s see how the dress rehearsal plays out for the first 2.5 quarters. 

My takeaway on Flores is.....that is Flores. Very typical Patriots talk. 
 

Full Disclosure.....I own none of them in Fantasy. I am a huge Dolphins fan and pay extremely close attention to the team and the roster.

I appreciate the feet on the ground POV! I'm a fin fan in Michigan, so I try to get as much (non Omar) first hand reporting as I can from those attending practice.

I had no interest on Gaskin in redraft in the 4th/5th. In dynasty I had no luck selling for more than a late 2nd, so I have a couple shares there. I tend to agree that Gaskin will lead a rbbc. In PPR he could have value if the rbbc reports cause his ADP to drop a couple rounds. 

 

[jtd13]

Sounds like Flores doubled down today on wanting to use RBs in specific roles. 

"We are going to try to use the backs situationally to fit their skill set and what is best for the team."

 

[Todem]

I appreciate the feet on the ground POV! I'm a fin fan in Michigan, so I try to get as much (non Omar) first hand reporting as I can from those attending practice.

I had no interest on Gaskin in redraft in the 4th/5th. In dynasty I had no luck selling for more than a late 2nd, so I have a couple shares there. I tend to agree that Gaskin will lead a rbbc. In PPR he could have value if the rbbc reports cause his ADP to drop a couple rounds. 

Yeah Omar is god awful.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Sounds like Flores doubled down today on wanting to use RBs in specific roles. 

"We are going to try to use the backs situationally to fit their skill set and what is best for the team."

Gaskin between the 20s, Ahmed on 3rd down, Brown short yardage/GL. Which would render all of them FF useless.

Roll the clock back one year. Howard had signed a 2-yr, 9.75M deal and Breida - fastest ball carrier in the league B2B years - had escaped SF. There were 3 low draft capital guys there to soak up a few touches (maybe 15%) and/or sit on the PS but what we knew for sure was it was gonna be Howard as the lead back (50% touches) with Breida taking a healthy share (35%.)

Then the real games started and Gaskin got 61% of the snaps every game he played, starting week 1. And Ahmed often got similar usage in games he missed (think Laird had one high snap count game.) There was no forewarning that was going to be the usage.



Based on that I don’t really care what Flores or the OC or the positional coaches are saying. It has zero credibility. They lied a year ago and there is no reason to trust them now.

Malcom Brown surpassed 1K yards last year. For his career. In his 6th season. Did you know that 11 years ago he was a 5-star recruit, rated the #1 RB by Rivals? He couldn’t beat our average backs for two years and was such an underwhelming 4 years he went undrafted. We kind of know what he is. He capped Henderson’s value the first two thirds of the season and could have the same effect this year.

I have no intention of drafting Myles and Salvon is WW fodder. But if Gaskin starts tumbling in ADP the next few weeks, I could see taking a stab at him as RB4 if the situation stays muddled. But is he stays at his current ADP he can be someone else’s roster clogger. I don’t think Malcolm is going to given anything beyond GL carries if he keeps playing like Howard did a year ago. 28-33-4 if you’re scoring at home.

What a mess.

 

[jtd13]

Gaskin between the 20s, Ahmed on 3rd down, Brown short yardage/GL. Which would render all of them FF useless.

I don't think it will be Ahmed as a 3rd down specialist. More likey Ahmed will spell Gaskin some series. But Gaskin was a lot more reliable as a blocker last year. 

I think the 1st month split from last year is probably a good bet for how they'll start this year. Brown takes Howard's snaps and Ahmed takes Breida's. 

 

[BobbyLayne]

I don't think it will be Ahmed as a 3rd down specialist. More likey Ahmed will spell Gaskin some series. But Gaskin was a lot more reliable as a blocker last year. 

I think the 1st month split from last year is probably a good bet for how they'll start this year. Brown takes Howard's snaps and Ahmed takes Breida's. 

Yeah you’re probably right. That was a nice wheel route for the TD.

 

[TZMarkie]

Based on that I don’t really care what Flores or the OC or the positional coaches are saying. It has zero credibility. They lied a year ago and there is no reason to trust them now.

What a mess.

This is the important point.   Much of this is "coach-speak". Truth be told I like Flores, and he seems to be an "organizational guy" first and foremost. In fact he might be my favorite coach in the league. But this time of year, you have to filter out a large portion of what we hear.

Sure, they can spew "RB by committee" all they want, but when the chips are down and an RB is doing very well (thereby helping keeping the coaches jobs) they tend to let them run and give them volume.

 Saying that, I don't necessarily know how much I want ANY Dolphin back in drafts.   I think I can find better upside elsewhere.

 TZM

 

[jtd13]

Yeah you’re probably right. That was a nice wheel route for the TD.

Sounds like he had another really nice long reception for a TD in joint practice with the falcons today.

I really think Brown is not going to impact Gaskin much, and really has no chance for fantasy value with the state of Miami's OL. Ahmed is starting to sound like a different story though. I think the RBs will be involved in the passing game a lot. But if Gaskin and Ahmed are splitting then that's no good.

 

[massraider]

Also possible that Fins give Brown all the work to see if he is worthy of a roster spot. 

I think he sucks, and if the Fins can upgrade at his spot, they should consider it. 

 

[The Frankman]

Malcolm Brown rushed five times for 16 yards in the Dolphins' Week 1 win over the Patriots. 

Brown was not targeted in the passing game, but he carried the rock only four fewer times than Myles Gaskin, with Gaskin winning the snap battle a modest 29-16. Salvon Amhed also mixed in for fewer carries and 11 plays. For some reason, one of Brown's handles was a wild cat snap. Although Gaskin proved today he has yet to sew up this backfield, neither Brown nor Ahmed applied much pressure. The Bills are another tough matchup for Week 2. Brown will have zero FLEX juice for that one.

 

[The Frankman]

Malcolm Brown rushed eight times for 23 yards and catching one ball for four yards in the Dolphins' Week 4 loss to the Colts.

Brown lead the Dolphins in rush attempts and yards but Miami's weak offensive outing kept any of the running backs from posting usable fantasy numbers. His eight carries were a season-high and represent the first time he has led the Dolphins in attempts. Even if he continues to operate as the RB1 in Miami, his minimal share of the carries is enough to keep him off fantasy rosters for the foreseeable future.

 

[Faust]

The Miami Herald's Barry Jackson reports Malcolm Brown (quad, IR) will resume practicing this week. 

There has not been much chatter about Brown since he was placed on injured reserve back in October. It looks like he could be ready to return, however, and it could not come at a better time for the Dolphins. Myles Gaskin, Salvon Ahmed, and Phillip Lindsay are all currently on the COVID list. If Brown is healthy enough to return, he could be coming back to a starting job. 

RELATED: 

Myles Gaskin

, Phillip Lindsay

, Salvon Ahmed

SOURCE: Barry Jackson on Twitter

Dec 13, 2021, 6:55 PM ET

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Myles Gaskin, Salvon Ahmed, and Phillip Lindsay are all currently on the COVID list. If Brown is healthy enough to return, he could be coming back to a starting job. 

RELATED: 

Nobody missed him but this is the first I am learning how Miami is going to lose to the Jets this weekend, thanks!

 

[Faust]

Rams elevated RB Malcolm Brown to the active roster.​

Brown could be on the active roster against the 49ers on Monday Night Football. While Brown is unlikely to see many snaps behind Cam Akers and Darrell Henderson, even if active, it's always possible the 220+ pound back punches in a goal line carry if serving as the No. 3 back.
SOURCE: ProFootballTalk on Twitter
Oct 3, 2022, 5:10 PM ET

 

[rockaction]

Wow. He's still a thing somewhere, huh?

 

[The Frankman]

Malcolm Brown rushed seven times for 15 yards in the Rams' Week 6 win over the Panthers, adding a 13-yard reception.​

The closest thing the Rams have to a No. 2 running back behind Darrell Henderson now that they are moving on from Cam Akers, Brown out-touched new No. 3 Ronnie Rivers 8-2. Coach Sean McVay does now have his bye week to think about how he wants to deploy his backs. It's far from a guarantee Brown will be able to hold off Rivers or another waiver claim/practice squad promotion in perpetuity.
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