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eaglesfan7
Footballguy
What do you mean? His off the field issues are documented.
It off the field issues are the sole or primary reason for his dropping he could have made a better landing spot. Strong program to get his head straight, great teachers, great QB to learn from, and even if he barely sees the field his stock is going to go up in other teams eyes every year he completes another clean year under the Bellichick/NE Patriot system.
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KGB
Footballguy
NFL network wouldnt speak about it. almost made it look like the guy killed someone. was wondering what all the commotion was about
massraider
Footballguy
Busted for public intoxication in 2009, and rumors of drug use, and not just weed.
comfortably numb
Footballguy
From what I have heard from an anonymous reporter.He was asked by an NFL team, "who would you save if both were drowning? Your dog, or a stranger"He apparently answered stranger.
KGB
Footballguy
*undraftable*
eakfootball
Footballguy
What would you have said?
Third
Footballguy
Full disclosure - I'm an Arkansas/Mallett homer.
I think Mallett's slide is the product of a lot of different things and it's not JUST off-the-field rumors. First, I don't believe there is a lot of meat to any real substantiated off-the-field issues. I've seen a lot of commentators say he has "off-the-field" issues and use that phrase to mean leadership/work ethic/maturity issues. In my opinion and in my observation of Mallett over the past two years, there is no substance to this. It's well documented (and even Bellichik mentioned this), the guy was a film room rat, was very impressive on the chalkboard, was voted a captain two years in a row by his teammates...coaches, teammates LOVED the guy.
If there is any true off-the-field problems, it relates to the drug rumors. Maybe there is something there. I don't know. I do know he was regularly tested in college and never failed a drug test. He had a public intox in 2009...not good, but not that big of a deal.
What I think happened in the draft is that there were only 5-6 teams that really needed a QB. Under no circumstances was Mallett going to go ahead of Newton or Gabbert, so Carolina and Jacksonville passing on him was a given. At first glance, it is shocking to me that Kaepernick, Ponder and Dalton are drafted ahead of him, but they were all taken by West Coast offense teams. Mallett obviously is not a West Coast QB, so it's understandable he ended up the 6th QB taken.
Mallett is a better QB than every single guy taken ahead of him. I don't know how you look at their performance at the combine and in college - against the competition they faced and considering the offenses they ran - and conclude anyone is better. I truly believe the Newton/Gabbert/Ponder/Kaepernick picks are going to be laughably bad in hindsight.
That said, I understand why he slid. If Mallett was not going to get drafted by a team that needed him to start next year, I can't think of a better situation for him than NE (or maybe Indy). He is a good kid who loves football and is the kind of guy you want on your team. I hope for his sake, he pulls an Aaron Rodgers and uses this as motivation and a chance to develop into big time QB.
I think Mallett's slide is the product of a lot of different things and it's not JUST off-the-field rumors. First, I don't believe there is a lot of meat to any real substantiated off-the-field issues. I've seen a lot of commentators say he has "off-the-field" issues and use that phrase to mean leadership/work ethic/maturity issues. In my opinion and in my observation of Mallett over the past two years, there is no substance to this. It's well documented (and even Bellichik mentioned this), the guy was a film room rat, was very impressive on the chalkboard, was voted a captain two years in a row by his teammates...coaches, teammates LOVED the guy.
If there is any true off-the-field problems, it relates to the drug rumors. Maybe there is something there. I don't know. I do know he was regularly tested in college and never failed a drug test. He had a public intox in 2009...not good, but not that big of a deal.
What I think happened in the draft is that there were only 5-6 teams that really needed a QB. Under no circumstances was Mallett going to go ahead of Newton or Gabbert, so Carolina and Jacksonville passing on him was a given. At first glance, it is shocking to me that Kaepernick, Ponder and Dalton are drafted ahead of him, but they were all taken by West Coast offense teams. Mallett obviously is not a West Coast QB, so it's understandable he ended up the 6th QB taken.
Mallett is a better QB than every single guy taken ahead of him. I don't know how you look at their performance at the combine and in college - against the competition they faced and considering the offenses they ran - and conclude anyone is better. I truly believe the Newton/Gabbert/Ponder/Kaepernick picks are going to be laughably bad in hindsight.
That said, I understand why he slid. If Mallett was not going to get drafted by a team that needed him to start next year, I can't think of a better situation for him than NE (or maybe Indy). He is a good kid who loves football and is the kind of guy you want on your team. I hope for his sake, he pulls an Aaron Rodgers and uses this as motivation and a chance to develop into big time QB.
Boom Switch
Footballguy
I dont like his "accent"...
Lucky Lefty
Footballguy
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
Rich Eisen asked Mayock straight up, what were the exact "off field issues"
that GMs are concerned about ?
Mayock answered like a bumbling politician.
He basically didn't answer the question.
that GMs are concerned about ?
Mayock answered like a bumbling politician.
He basically didn't answer the question.
massraider
Footballguy
You also have to admit, this is like getting adopted by the Kennedys. If Mallet is gonna have a chance to make it, you can't ask for a better situation.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
He certainly has been given the best chance to succeed in the long term than any other QB selected so far. You brought up Aaron Rodgers and I think that is a great comparison and not just because he dropped lower than expected. Like Rodgers, he is going to have the chance to wait and be groomed for the starting role rather than have it thrown at him. He gets to see how one of the games great QB's goes about being a great QB. Barring major injury, he will be able to watch and learn for a bit of time while at the same time getting some snaps in pre-season and spot duty. Then, in 3 years or so, when Brady starts to slow, he will most likely still have a very good team around him and be ready to take advantage of it. Just like Rodgers. If he fails, it surely will not be because he did not have the best opportunity to succeed.
Wu-banger
Footballguy
I think this is really the reason.... He speaks like (and I hate this term) a "######"... Not sure if NFL Teams were ready for a QB to act like that and just put them off in general. Very short sighted by teams.I dont like his "accent"...
jurb26
Footballguy
I don't disagree with you that the off-field stuff is being greatly overemphasized by the media. Given that you are an Ark homer though, what are your feelings of Mallet's performance in the Alabama game? I didn't watch all of Mallet's games but that is one I did watch, very closely. IMO, Mallet is THE reason they lost that game. Thoughts?
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
probably likes white powder, weed only drops you a little., LOL
Steel Dillo
Footballguy
Gil Brandt said that Mallet had the worst measureables (other than arm strength) of the draft.
Buddy Ball 2K3
Footballguy
One member of the NFL Network show did give a very large hint as to what the issue(s) are, he compared his issues to that of Matt Jones.
J Andersson
Footballguy
Not comparing them in any other way just yet (although they are probably alike in some ways), but do you all remember that backup guy from Michigan we drafted a while back. His measurables weren't exactly off the charts either...
Here is probably one of the biggest reasons along with the character issues which had a few guys drop. He ran a 5.3 on draft day. In a league where mobility is a plus, he has none. The big arm better be awesome to overcome this.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
If its comparable... but not the same... he's a Meth-Head? Who has the physical attributes of Andrew Walter?
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BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Well you just did compare them.
And it would be hard to find a truly more opposite qb to compare him with.
munchkin
Footballguy
It's clear that Brandt doesn't like Mallett. I listened to the first round of the draft on Sirius and it was clear by the tone of voice Brandt used in discussin Mallett that he has strong feelings against the kid. I have to say it seems uncharacteristic for Brandt to show such clear disdain for a college player. He rattled off the measurably poor physical statistics slow forty, little over 8' broad jump and very limited vertical; but it was the tone of his voice that spoke pretty loudly (my interpretation; I certainly could be reading too much into the voice thing. Hopefully this kid can pull it together and create a solid niche for himself in the game.
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jurb26
Footballguy
I don't really understand why Brandt would so negatively portray Mallet's physical abilities. To me Mallet has fantastic physical tools, maybe the best in the draft. His arm is unmatched by anyone in this class if you ask me. My concern with him is that he seems to get very lazy at times. I'm not saying what his work ethic is off the field, I have no idea how much film this guy really watches. I'm talking about his footwork and decision making on the field. Add to that the fact that there isn't a single person out there that doesn't believe there are character issues with him and there is certainly reason to be skeptical. If you talked to anyone at Michigan, they would almost describe the Mallet as the Antichrist. Maybe Michigan was just a bad fit for him or maybe he has matured a great deal since then, I don't know.
Third
Footballguy
Is it possible that some of the NFL guys (media) found it easy to dislike Mallett because he was Petrino's QB? No doubt that most of them don't hold Petrino in high regard. Just a thought because, like you, it just seemed strange that things snowballed so badly on Mallett with no one being able to really put a finger on what the problem was. Just wondering if that might play a small part in it.
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