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Man of Steel (1 Viewer)

That was mostly pretty bad.

The Good:

1) Origin part was awesome.

2) Flashbacks with Kevin Costner was pretty cool.

3) The cast, overall, was excellent. Nice mix of great actors and "that guy"'s.

4) Zod and his crew were cool.

The Bad

1) I swear it took 90 minutes to have a fight scene. I had heard before I saw this movie that it was an action movie that knew it was an action movie. Didn't really seem that way.

2) We saw Superman or Zod Soldier get punched/thrown/hit and smash through 45 buildings as they skipped and skidded to a stop about 138 times. It was cool the first couple times, but soon became really annoying. I'm actually not even sure it was cool the first time. Thinking about it now, most of the fight scenes were incredibly unoriginal and boring. I hit you, you smash through stuff, stand up unscathed - repeat.

3) Same for falling buildings. I think I saw about 42 buildings fall.

4) The last fight scene felt like it was trying to be too "epic." This is not unlike the last Neo/Agent Smith fight. They fought in the ruins, through buildings, on a satellite, in a Grand Central Station ripoff. I'm surprised they didn't work in Stonehenge and the Eiffel Tower.

5) Lane was annoying, can't put my finger on why. Literally the only casting decision that I didn't like.

Other Things That Annoyed Me But Might Be Way Too Picky

1) The story had a lot of philosophical overtones to it about choice, destiny, "greater good," how people react to the unknown, etc. Some of it was interesting, some of it was dull and pointless. I really thought they could have played some of the good stuff up more. Zod was a soldier because he was engineered to be one, so his actions made sense. Superman was a natural born person, so he had no pre-destiny "programmed" into him, he could choose to be what he wanted, which Kevin Costner pointed out many times. Yet Superman never really seemed to make any kind of choice at all, or at least not one that he struggled with. He wasn't very sympathetic I guess, I don't know.

2) I know this is extremely stupid to complain about since the backstory to Superman is well known, but I feel like the movie could've had some kind of throwaway line explaining how there are two races that are pretty much the same (i.e. humans) on opposite sides of the universe, yet they are completely unrelated. Normally I may not think of this in a comic book movie, the this movie made several references to evolution, so it just made me think of it during the movie. This isn't even getting into how they all have similar weapons as Earthlings (i.e. rifles) and speak the same language and all that. Stupid, I know, but kept thinking about it when they brought up evolution. Did we just happened to evolve as the same thing? Oooookay.

3) "There's only one way this ends - either I die, or you die." -Zod-

Warrior training on Krypton doesn't touch upon basic math I guess, lol.

 
My God, the PROPERTY DAMAGE!!!!!!
Yeah, as they're trying to save one lady I didn't care about from the rubble, I kept thinking how many people must be in all those skyscrapers that kept falling.
Interesting point. What would America or the world say to Superman after that fight. Yeah it's not his fault all that stuff was destroyed BUT Zodd came to earth because of him. Is he (Superman) a magnet for super villains? Is he welcome to stay on earth?

I was hoping they would forgo the whole Superman as a reporter story line. It bothers me he puts on fake glasses and nobody knows who he is.

 
Heh. Superman would spend so much tiime in Civil Court he'd never get any world saving done. Not too mention he'd need to moonlight with the Avengers to pay for all the legal fees.

 
Going to see it with my son tonight for Father's Day...a new Regal theater has opened locally and has one of their RPX screens in it...worth the extra money to see it in Real3D RPX? Or just save a few and see it in Real3D on regular screen??

Thanks!

 
Just got through watching it with my son. It was good. Not great, but not boring either. I was thinking along the same lines as others in that based on all the buildings falling there were hundreds of thousands of people were dying.

 
I thought Cavill was great - I haven't seen him in much, but I thought he felt like Superman almost immediately.

A lot of parallels to the Batman Begins journey. I kind of liked hobo Superman.

Eminem's mom's abusive boyfriend was very good in this.

Russell Crowe and Kevin Costner were both solid.

 
My God, the PROPERTY DAMAGE!!!!!!
Yeah, as they're trying to save one lady I didn't care about from the rubble, I kept thinking how many people must be in all those skyscrapers that kept falling.
Interesting point. What would America or the world say to Superman after that fight. Yeah it's not his fault all that stuff was destroyed BUT Zodd came to earth because of him. Is he (Superman) a magnet for super villains? Is he welcome to stay on earth?

I was hoping they would forgo the whole Superman as a reporter story line. It bothers me he puts on fake glasses and nobody knows who he is.
I am hoping that this is not the case.

 
2) We saw Superman or Zod Soldier get punched/thrown/hit and smash through 45 buildings as they skipped and skidded to a stop about 138 times. It was cool the first couple times, but soon became really annoying. I'm actually not even sure it was cool the first time. Thinking about it now, most of the fight scenes were incredibly unoriginal and boring. I hit you, you smash through stuff, stand up unscathed - repeat.

3) "There's only one way this ends - either I die, or you die." -Zod-

Warrior training on Krypton doesn't touch upon basic math I guess, lol.
But a Steven Segal headlock is a game changer!

And I wouldn't normally complain about things like that, but I found that oddly distracting, too.

 
I thought Cavill was great - I haven't seen him in much, but I thought he felt like Superman almost immediately.

A lot of parallels to the Batman Begins journey. I kind of liked hobo Superman.

Eminem's mom's abusive boyfriend was very good in this.

Russell Crowe and Kevin Costner were both solid.
wat??

 
Great movie. Jesus was 33 Superman was 33 multiple times he had his arms out like he was on the cross just a fyi for anyone that didn't pick up that up.

Kevin Costner is one of my favorite actors, I hope the success of this movie helps him get more and more roles.

Just a side note, someone already mentioned it in this thread but don't trust Rotten Tomatoes, they give terrible movies great reviews / great movies bad reviews all the time.

Be your own person, if you think you want to see a movie watch it yourself, every critic has a bias inside of them that will sometimes blind them to a good movie or make a bad movie look good.

The fact the critic rating is 56 but the audience rating is 82 speaks volumes.

 
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Abraham said:
Lebron....legacy....Jordan...greatest....choker.....Kkobe sidebar...Jordan...Lebron...Kobe sucks....history....legacy...clutch....

That cover it?
Superman vs Lebron?

 
http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/17/showbiz/man-of-steel-box-office-ew/

The superhero film began its run with a massive $125.1 million ($113.1 million over the traditional weekend, $12 million from corporate screening programs on Thursday), breaking the record for the biggest June opening weekend ever, ahead of Toy Story 3's $110.3 million bow in 2010. Among 2013 films, Man of Steel had the second best debut of the year behind Iron Man 3, which started with $174.1 million in May.
 
http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/17/showbiz/man-of-steel-box-office-ew/

The superhero film began its run with a massive $125.1 million ($113.1 million over the traditional weekend, $12 million from corporate screening programs on Thursday), breaking the record for the biggest June opening weekend ever, ahead of Toy Story 3's $110.3 million bow in 2010. Among 2013 films, Man of Steel had the second best debut of the year behind Iron Man 3, which started with $174.1 million in May.
And people wonder why they keep rebooting superhero movies

 
I was really looking forward to this movie.. I was sure it wasn't going to be as awesome as I was hoping it was...

I enjoyed it, but it didn't blow me away. I guess my main complaint is, there wasn't really any interaction with the general public. He didn't make a big unveiling like when he saved Lois

from the helicopter.

Nobody even knew about him until Zod showed up looking for him and everybody was like "Who?"...

 
question about the ending

regarding Superman killing Zod.....I was under the impression that breaking Zod's neck (twisting it) made Zod's heat vision go to the right and kill the family in the corner. You think that was the implication?
 
question about the ending

regarding Superman killing Zod.....I was under the impression that breaking Zod's neck (twisting it) made Zod's heat vision go to the right and kill the family in the corner. You think that was the implication?
That's what I gathered... That's why Superman was so upset ...

 
I was really looking forward to this movie.. I was sure it wasn't going to be as awesome as I was hoping it was...

I enjoyed it, but it didn't blow me away. I guess my main complaint is, there wasn't really any interaction with the general public. He didn't make a big unveiling like when he saved Lois

from the helicopter.

Nobody even knew about him until Zod showed up looking for him and everybody was like "Who?"...
I thought that was the point. He didn't want the world to know about him.

 
Amy Adams has that Jenna Fisher from the Office hotness going for her. Very cute in the, I think I could get that girl look. She also didn't Adrian the movie which was nice.
I kept asking my wife if that was Pam. I think Amy Adams did date Jim at some point in the show.
 
The more I think about the movie the more I enjoyed it. I think everyone hit their parts perfectly. Really impressed with Russel Crowe - I hope they make sure he is back for the sequel. I am falling in lust with Amy Adams. Metropolis took a beating and that was probably a little over the top, but it does fit the powers that they have.

And the ending at the paper was solid. The whole living in disguise thing because of a pair of glasses was always way too weak, so that was a perfect way to do it. I would actually spend the money to go see it again, and I'm not sure there have been many movies lately that would make me say that.

 
question about the ending

regarding Superman killing Zod.....I was under the impression that breaking Zod's neck (twisting it) made Zod's heat vision go to the right and kill the family in the corner. You think that was the implication?
That's what I gathered... That's why Superman was so upset ...
I didn't even think that. Maybe. I don't know if it matters. There could have been a few reasons he was upset.

last of his people, he didn't actually ever kill anyone before, just the revelation of killing the man who killed his father
 
I was really looking forward to this movie.. I was sure it wasn't going to be as awesome as I was hoping it was...

I enjoyed it, but it didn't blow me away. I guess my main complaint is, there wasn't really any interaction with the general public. He didn't make a big unveiling like when he saved Lois

from the helicopter.

Nobody even knew about him until Zod showed up looking for him and everybody was like "Who?"...
I thought that was the point. He didn't want the world to know about him.
Yeah, I get that... but I guess I just assumed he'd be in full fledged "Superman" mode when Zod showed up.... Rounding up thieves and saving cats from trees ;)

 
question about the ending

regarding Superman killing Zod.....I was under the impression that breaking Zod's neck (twisting it) made Zod's heat vision go to the right and kill the family in the corner. You think that was the implication?
That's what I gathered... That's why Superman was so upset ...
I didn't even think that. Maybe. I don't know if it matters. There could have been a few reasons he was upset.

last of his people, he didn't actually ever kill anyone before, just the revelation of killing the man who killed his father
:thumbup:

 
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The more I think about the movie the more I enjoyed it. I think everyone hit their parts perfectly. Really impressed with Russel Crowe - I hope they make sure he is back for the sequel. I am falling in lust with Amy Adams. Metropolis took a beating and that was probably a little over the top, but it does fit the powers that they have.

And the ending at the paper was solid. The whole living in disguise thing because of a pair of glasses was always way too weak, so that was a perfect way to do it. I would actually spend the money to go see it again, and I'm not sure there have been many movies lately that would make me say that.
I went back to see to see it again with my son last night. I think it's a nearly great movie right up until the last 30-40 minutes, which I still think was too over the top. That's not enough to kill the whole thing for me though. I thought the Russell Crow and Costner parts were the best thing about the movie, which made it a terrific Father's Day experience with my son. Hopefully one he'll remember for a long time.

 
The more I think about the movie the more I enjoyed it. I think everyone hit their parts perfectly. Really impressed with Russel Crowe - I hope they make sure he is back for the sequel. I am falling in lust with Amy Adams. Metropolis took a beating and that was probably a little over the top, but it does fit the powers that they have.

And the ending at the paper was solid. The whole living in disguise thing because of a pair of glasses was always way too weak, so that was a perfect way to do it. I would actually spend the money to go see it again, and I'm not sure there have been many movies lately that would make me say that.
I went back to see to see it again with my son last night. I think it's a nearly great movie right up until the last 30-40 minutes, which I still think was too over the top. That's not enough to kill the whole thing for me though. I thought the Russell Crow and Costner parts were the best thing about the movie, which made it a terrific Father's Day experience with my son. Hopefully one he'll remember for a long time.
Yeah, Costner was as close to perfect as you can get in that kind of role. It was a small part but it was extremely powerful, and everything about the way he did it was near perfect.

 
Overall, I liked the movie but it could have been a lot better.

Felt the beginning was a bit disjointed. Could have used a better editor or something. I liked the linear beginning of the original superman vs. the flashbacks in this one. Also, the scenes from the trailer that I REALLY liked didn't seem anymore fleshed out in the actual movie. They gave almost all the best of Costner and Crow in the trailers and the movie had little more to offer. I also felt a bit of CGI overload back in krypton. It was so over the top with the action and weird visuals, I started to get flashbacks of attack of the clones. And as many others have said, the ending with Zod was way too Neo vs. Smith. I was wondering how many times they were going to punch each other in the face with no damage being done. The movie would have worked better without that battle at all. End it when the rest of Zod's crew bites it.

 
The more I think about the movie the more I enjoyed it. I think everyone hit their parts perfectly. Really impressed with Russel Crowe - I hope they make sure he is back for the sequel. I am falling in lust with Amy Adams. Metropolis took a beating and that was probably a little over the top, but it does fit the powers that they have.

And the ending at the paper was solid. The whole living in disguise thing because of a pair of glasses was always way too weak, so that was a perfect way to do it. I would actually spend the money to go see it again, and I'm not sure there have been many movies lately that would make me say that.
I went back to see to see it again with my son last night. I think it's a nearly great movie right up until the last 30-40 minutes, which I still think was too over the top. That's not enough to kill the whole thing for me though. I thought the Russell Crow and Costner parts were the best thing about the movie, which made it a terrific Father's Day experience with my son. Hopefully one he'll remember for a long time.
Best scene in the movie, to me, was when

Costner put his hand up to tell Clark to stand down when the tornado was coming.
 
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The movie broke June Box office records, so I think it's safe to say we get a sequel or two outta this one.

I think they really need to kill it with Lex Luthor. Much like the Joker in the Batman trilogy basically made that series, whoever gets Lex needs to nail it.

 
The movie broke June Box office records, so I think it's safe to say we get a sequel or two outta this one.

I think they really need to kill it with Lex Luthor. Much like the Joker in the Batman trilogy basically made that series, whoever gets Lex needs to nail it.
Someone on another forum mentioned Jason Isaacs for Lex. This is a good choice. Who do you guys think would play a good Lex?

 
The movie broke June Box office records, so I think it's safe to say we get a sequel or two outta this one.

I think they really need to kill it with Lex Luthor. Much like the Joker in the Batman trilogy basically made that series, whoever gets Lex needs to nail it.
Someone on another forum mentioned Jason Isaacs for Lex. This is a good choice. Who do you guys think would play a good Lex?
John Malkovich? Too old??

 
playin4beer said:
Rick James said:
question about the ending

regarding Superman killing Zod.....I was under the impression that breaking Zod's neck (twisting it) made Zod's heat vision go to the right and kill the family in the corner. You think that was the implication?
That's what I gathered... That's why Superman was so upset ...
Not at all. Superman saved the family at the expense of taking a life -- a big no-no in Superman's ethos. He was upset because he was forced to make a terrible choice - between an human family or a Kryptonian. But taking any life would cause him just as much pain. Superman don't kill anyone. Batman would probably wig out too, only he wouldn't cry in his girlfriend's arms, he'd go home, drink a ton of top shelf hootch and brood for three months in a room with black walls.
 
Usual21 said:
shader said:
The movie broke June Box office records, so I think it's safe to say we get a sequel or two outta this one.

I think they really need to kill it with Lex Luthor. Much like the Joker in the Batman trilogy basically made that series, whoever gets Lex needs to nail it.
Someone on another forum mentioned Jason Isaacs for Lex. This is a good choice. Who do you guys think would play a good Lex?
Whoever it is has to play it straight. No camping it up. I actually like the guy from Smallville who played Lex, Michael Rosenbaum.

 
shader said:
The movie broke June Box office records, so I think it's safe to say we get a sequel or two outta this one.

I think they really need to kill it with Lex Luthor. Much like the Joker in the Batman trilogy basically made that series, whoever gets Lex needs to nail it.
It's too bad they already used Kevin Spacey in the other attempted Superman a few years ago. He'd be great in this series.

 
Oh, no. He's all wrong for Lex Luthor. Arnold Vosloo is a scene-chewing hack that belongs in Mega Force remakes like G.I. Joe: Rise of Cobra. You need an actor that not only looks the part but can play cold, calculating genius.
I think he's just been only given scene-chewing hack roles. You know, like the ones Samuel L. Jackson takes because he wants to.

On a similar note, what if they mixed it up and had Djimon Hounsou play Luthor?

 
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Oh, no. He's all wrong for Lex Luthor. Arnold Vosloo is a scene-chewing hack that belongs in Mega Force remakes like G.I. Joe: Rise of Cobra. You need an actor that not only looks the part but can play cold, calculating genius.
I think he's just been only given scene-chewing hack roles. You know, like the ones Samuel L. Jackson takes because he wants to.
Mark Strong.

 
Oh, no. He's all wrong for Lex Luthor. Arnold Vosloo is a scene-chewing hack that belongs in Mega Force remakes like G.I. Joe: Rise of Cobra. You need an actor that not only looks the part but can play cold, calculating genius.
I think he's just been only given scene-chewing hack roles. You know, like the ones Samuel L. Jackson takes because he wants to.
Mark Strong.
Peter Sarsgaard or Paul Bettany?

 
Oh, no. He's all wrong for Lex Luthor. Arnold Vosloo is a scene-chewing hack that belongs in Mega Force remakes like G.I. Joe: Rise of Cobra. You need an actor that not only looks the part but can play cold, calculating genius.
I think he's just been only given scene-chewing hack roles. You know, like the ones Samuel L. Jackson takes because he wants to.

On a similar note, what if they mixed it up and had Djimon Hounsou play Luthor?
That could be the case with Vosloo, but I don't see Warner Bros. taking the chance on an actor with his track record in a tent-pole film like the Man of Steel sequel.

Djimon Hounsou is an interesting choice, but I'm growing tried of these seemingly purposeful attempts to cast comic book characters against their original race a la Michael Duncan Clark as The Kingpin in Daredevil and, most recently, Lawrence Fishburn as Perry White. Though I didn't mind later as much because Fishburn is awesome.

My choice at the moment for Luthor, would be more traditional. I like Mark Strong. He's alredy proven to be able to play a cold, calculating villian in the Sherlock Holmes movies, and I think most people have forgotten he was Sinestro in the awful Green Lantern movie.

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lol That's what I get for taking so long to write this reply, someone already suggested Mark Strong in the meantime.

 
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Oh, no. He's all wrong for Lex Luthor. Arnold Vosloo is a scene-chewing hack that belongs in Mega Force remakes like G.I. Joe: Rise of Cobra. You need an actor that not only looks the part but can play cold, calculating genius.
I think he's just been only given scene-chewing hack roles. You know, like the ones Samuel L. Jackson takes because he wants to.

On a similar note, what if they mixed it up and had Djimon Hounsou play Luthor?
That could be the case with Vosloo, but I don't see Warner Bros. taking the chance on an actor with his track record in a tent-pole film like the Man of Steel sequel.

Djimon Hounsou is an interesting choice, but I'm growing tried of these seemingly purposeful attempts to cast comic book characters against their original race a la Michael Duncan Clark as The Kingpin in Daredevil and, most recently, Lawrence Fishburn as Perry White. Though I didn't mind later as much because Fishburn is awesome.

My choice at the moment for Luthor, would be more traditional. I like Mark Strong. He's alredy proven to be able to play a cold, calculating villian in the Sherlock Holmes movies, and I think most people have forgotten he was Sinestro in the awful Green Lantern movie.

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lol That's what I get for taking so long to write this reply, someone already suggested Mark Strong in the meantime.
Kingpin had a certain body type. I think Duncan was cast based on that not some weird racial conspiracy. And really I want the best actor to play the character, race isn't a major consideration IMO.

 

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