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MANNING FAMILY ASKS SD NOT TO DRAFT ELI (1 Viewer)

1. 5 years ago, I moved to San Diego, finally living in a city with a pro-football and pro-baseball team, and adopted the home teams.  I've never claimed to have been a Charger fan since the "Fouts days".
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So Northern Va/Washington DC doesn't have a pro football team? How come you didn't adopt the Redskins while living in DC for those 4 or 5 years? I'll tell you why...because the Steelers made the playoffs year in and year out. Now that the Steelers are completely done, it's time for you to change teams.
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1. 5 years ago, I moved to San Diego, finally living in a city with a pro-football and pro-baseball team, and adopted the home teams. I've never claimed to have been a Charger fan since the "Fouts days".
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So Northern Va/Washington DC doesn't have a pro football team? How come you didn't adopt the Redskins while living in DC for those 4 or 5 years? I'll tell you why...because the Steelers made the playoffs year in and year out. Now that the Steelers are completely done, it's time for you to change teams.
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Most useless bump of one's own thread EVER. :thumbdown: :hey:
 
1. 5 years ago, I moved to San Diego, finally living in a city with a pro-football and pro-baseball team, and adopted the home teams.  I've never claimed to have been a Charger fan since the "Fouts days".
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So Northern Va/Washington DC doesn't have a pro football team? How come you didn't adopt the Redskins while living in DC for those 4 or 5 years? I'll tell you why...because the Steelers made the playoffs year in and year out. Now that the Steelers are completely done, it's time for you to change teams.
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Most useless bump of one's own thread EVER. :thumbdown: :hey:
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Eh, I was looking for something else and that happened to be the last line posted here. Being a Steelers fan I could not resist.
 
As a Charger fan although I was dissapointed with last seasons overall record, it was nice to server up the Manning Family 2 big fat losses.
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Another shining example of that great California school system :rolleyes: ;)

I do think NY was stoopid to make that trade (course if Rivers doesn't pan out, they'll get the last laugh).

 
I do think NY was stoopid to make that trade (course if Rivers doesn't pan out, they'll get the last laugh).
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I'm on the Rivers bandwagon. But even if he never starts a game, it looks like Merriman will be a perennial Pro Bowler, so the Chargers made out pretty good. (They also got Kaeding and Oben.)
 
I do think NY was stoopid to make that trade (course if Rivers doesn't pan out, they'll get the last laugh).
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I'm on the Rivers bandwagon. But even if he never starts a game, it looks like Merriman will be a perennial Pro Bowler, so the Chargers made out pretty good. (They also got Kaeding and Oben.)
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If Rivers busts, it will have been a bad trade. A stud DE for a stud QB? That's no even trade. If he's at least respectable, lol @ NY.
 
I do think NY was stoopid to make that trade (course if Rivers doesn't pan out, they'll get the last laugh).
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I'm on the Rivers bandwagon. But even if he never starts a game, it looks like Merriman will be a perennial Pro Bowler, so the Chargers made out pretty good. (They also got Kaeding and Oben.)
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If Rivers busts, it will have been a bad trade. A stud DE for a stud QB? That's no even trade. If he's at least respectable, lol @ NY.
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Way too early to tell if Manning is a "stud" QB. Could he? Sure. But I think he's still hesitant, and needs a lot more polishing. Right now, Rivers or not, I think San Diego has gotten the better end of the deal. If Rivers is even half-way decent, I'd say they definitely got the better end, even IF Eli turns into a Pro Bowler...
 
'Dragon1952 said:
'Raider Nation said:
'tommyGunZ said:
Wow. Just heard that Archie Manning was on ESPN stating that Eli was prepared to sit out the entire season should the Chargers draft him.Mort also claimed that the Chargers are considering Philip Rivers #1 overall.
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Archie is lookin' pretty smart.
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If Eli had gone to San Diego and the Chargers had been smart enough to hire Rex Ryan he'd probably have 3 or 4 SB appearances by now :rolleyes:
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If the Chargers would have fired Norv years ago they'd probably have 3 or 4 SB apperances by now.
 
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No rooting interest for either of the original teams involved, I just enjoy seeing a player out of college being disruptive to the NFL in general.

Fight the Man.

 
'solorca said:
Many years later, and I still think it was a ##### move by Archie and Eli.
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What exactly did Eli do that was such a ##### move?Edit to add: Never mind. People see what they want to see. This situation is like arguing religion. People are too dug in to be convinced of anything.

 
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'Shrek said:
Archie Manning may be fearing that Eli will fall into the same situation that Archie suffered while quarterback of the downtrodden Saints in the 1970s.The Chargers have not had a winning season since 1995 and have just four winning seasons in the past 20 years.While quarterback and a tackle are high on the Chargers' list, they have several other desperate needs. Trading down would allow them to stockpile picks and possibly players as well as avoid paying a hefty signing bonus that a top pick would command.Despite the feelings expressed by the Manning family, the Chargers may see Eli as the only hope to resurrect the franchise. Manning's stature entering the NFL is very high.
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Lost in the Eli-Rivers debate is the putrid evaluation of the Chargers' situation at the time. The Chargers would go 12-4 after that draft, and go on a run of playoff appearances for several years afterwards. Yet they talk about how the Chargers have several desperate needs and seemingly was downtrodden. Had Eli known what was on the horizon, I bet he doesn't refuse to play for San Diego.
 
i still think it's bush league to demand where you play when you enter a professional league (see Bryant, Kobe).

 
'Riversco said:
'Shrek said:
Archie Manning may be fearing that Eli will fall into the same situation that Archie suffered while quarterback of the downtrodden Saints in the 1970s.The Chargers have not had a winning season since 1995 and have just four winning seasons in the past 20 years.While quarterback and a tackle are high on the Chargers' list, they have several other desperate needs. Trading down would allow them to stockpile picks and possibly players as well as avoid paying a hefty signing bonus that a top pick would command.Despite the feelings expressed by the Manning family, the Chargers may see Eli as the only hope to resurrect the franchise. Manning's stature entering the NFL is very high.
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Lost in the Eli-Rivers debate is the putrid evaluation of the Chargers' situation at the time. The Chargers would go 12-4 after that draft, and go on a run of playoff appearances for several years afterwards. Yet they talk about how the Chargers have several desperate needs and seemingly was downtrodden. Had Eli known what was on the horizon, I bet he doesn't refuse to play for San Diego.
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It was about the money of being in NY - the endorsements of a big market city and more money to spend on players.
 
'cstu said:
'Riversco said:
'Shrek said:
Archie Manning may be fearing that Eli will fall into the same situation that Archie suffered while quarterback of the downtrodden Saints in the 1970s.The Chargers have not had a winning season since 1995 and have just four winning seasons in the past 20 years.While quarterback and a tackle are high on the Chargers' list, they have several other desperate needs. Trading down would allow them to stockpile picks and possibly players as well as avoid paying a hefty signing bonus that a top pick would command.Despite the feelings expressed by the Manning family, the Chargers may see Eli as the only hope to resurrect the franchise. Manning's stature entering the NFL is very high.
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Lost in the Eli-Rivers debate is the putrid evaluation of the Chargers' situation at the time. The Chargers would go 12-4 after that draft, and go on a run of playoff appearances for several years afterwards. Yet they talk about how the Chargers have several desperate needs and seemingly was downtrodden. Had Eli known what was on the horizon, I bet he doesn't refuse to play for San Diego.
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It was about the money of being in NY - the endorsements of a big market city and more money to spend on players.
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It also likely had a lot to do with AJ Smith being, well, AJ Smith.
 
'Avery said:
'cstu said:
'Riversco said:
'Shrek said:
Archie Manning may be fearing that Eli will fall into the same situation that Archie suffered while quarterback of the downtrodden Saints in the 1970s.The Chargers have not had a winning season since 1995 and have just four winning seasons in the past 20 years.While quarterback and a tackle are high on the Chargers' list, they have several other desperate needs. Trading down would allow them to stockpile picks and possibly players as well as avoid paying a hefty signing bonus that a top pick would command.Despite the feelings expressed by the Manning family, the Chargers may see Eli as the only hope to resurrect the franchise. Manning's stature entering the NFL is very high.
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Lost in the Eli-Rivers debate is the putrid evaluation of the Chargers' situation at the time. The Chargers would go 12-4 after that draft, and go on a run of playoff appearances for several years afterwards. Yet they talk about how the Chargers have several desperate needs and seemingly was downtrodden. Had Eli known what was on the horizon, I bet he doesn't refuse to play for San Diego.
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It was about the money of being in NY - the endorsements of a big market city and more money to spend on players.
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It also likely had a lot to do with AJ Smith being, well, AJ Smith.
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Who was AJ Smith at the time? Drafting Eli was among his first moves as GM. He didn't have any kind of reputation yet.
 
'Maurile Tremblay said:
'Avery said:
'cstu said:
'Riversco said:
'Shrek said:
Archie Manning may be fearing that Eli will fall into the same situation that Archie suffered while quarterback of the downtrodden Saints in the 1970s.The Chargers have not had a winning season since 1995 and have just four winning seasons in the past 20 years.While quarterback and a tackle are high on the Chargers' list, they have several other desperate needs. Trading down would allow them to stockpile picks and possibly players as well as avoid paying a hefty signing bonus that a top pick would command.Despite the feelings expressed by the Manning family, the Chargers may see Eli as the only hope to resurrect the franchise. Manning's stature entering the NFL is very high.
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Lost in the Eli-Rivers debate is the putrid evaluation of the Chargers' situation at the time. The Chargers would go 12-4 after that draft, and go on a run of playoff appearances for several years afterwards. Yet they talk about how the Chargers have several desperate needs and seemingly was downtrodden. Had Eli known what was on the horizon, I bet he doesn't refuse to play for San Diego.
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It was about the money of being in NY - the endorsements of a big market city and more money to spend on players.
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It also likely had a lot to do with AJ Smith being, well, AJ Smith.
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Who was AJ Smith at the time? Drafting Eli was among his first moves as GM. He didn't have any kind of reputation yet.
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From most accounts AJ Smith is an abrasive personality, to put it mildly. Just guessing here, but I think if Smith wanted Eli on the team, he could have treated it like a recruiting job and sold the Mannings on the talent they would surround him with and the bright future for the Chargers. Knowing what we know now about Smith, I'm guessing the conversations between Smith, Eli, Archie and Colon (agent) didn't go that way.
 
'Avery said:
'Maurile Tremblay said:
'Avery said:
'cstu said:
'Riversco said:
'Shrek said:
Archie Manning may be fearing that Eli will fall into the same situation that Archie suffered while quarterback of the downtrodden Saints in the 1970s.The Chargers have not had a winning season since 1995 and have just four winning seasons in the past 20 years.While quarterback and a tackle are high on the Chargers' list, they have several other desperate needs. Trading down would allow them to stockpile picks and possibly players as well as avoid paying a hefty signing bonus that a top pick would command.Despite the feelings expressed by the Manning family, the Chargers may see Eli as the only hope to resurrect the franchise. Manning's stature entering the NFL is very high.
Click to expand...
Lost in the Eli-Rivers debate is the putrid evaluation of the Chargers' situation at the time. The Chargers would go 12-4 after that draft, and go on a run of playoff appearances for several years afterwards. Yet they talk about how the Chargers have several desperate needs and seemingly was downtrodden. Had Eli known what was on the horizon, I bet he doesn't refuse to play for San Diego.
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It was about the money of being in NY - the endorsements of a big market city and more money to spend on players.
Click to expand...
It also likely had a lot to do with AJ Smith being, well, AJ Smith.
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Who was AJ Smith at the time? Drafting Eli was among his first moves as GM. He didn't have any kind of reputation yet.
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From most accounts AJ Smith is an abrasive personality, to put it mildly. Just guessing here, but I think if Smith wanted Eli on the team, he could have treated it like a recruiting job and sold the Mannings on the talent they would surround him with and the bright future for the Chargers. Knowing what we know now about Smith, I'm guessing the conversations between Smith, Eli, Archie and Colon (agent) didn't go that way.
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:goodposting:
 
'Avery said:
'solorca said:
Many years later, and I still think it was a ##### move by Archie and Eli.
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What exactly did Eli do that was such a ##### move?Edit to add: Never mind. People see what they want to see. This situation is like arguing religion. People are too dug in to be convinced of anything.
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I think it's silly to think Eli didn't play a part in how things went down. Just look at his face when the Chargers drafted him, and that should tell you everything.I don't even dislike Eli that much. He was young player who made a mistake, but it was still a ##### move.

 
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'solorca said:
'Avery said:
'solorca said:
Many years later, and I still think it was a ##### move by Archie and Eli.
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What exactly did Eli do that was such a ##### move?Edit to add: Never mind. People see what they want to see. This situation is like arguing religion. People are too dug in to be convinced of anything.
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I think it's silly to think Eli didn't play a part in how things went down. Just look at his face when the Chargers drafted him, and that should tell you everything.I don't even dislike Eli that much. He was young player who made a mistake, but it was still a ##### move.
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You didn't explain why you think it was a #### move.
 
'roadkill1292 said:
'solorca said:
'Avery said:
'solorca said:
Many years later, and I still think it was a ##### move by Archie and Eli.
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What exactly did Eli do that was such a ##### move?Edit to add: Never mind. People see what they want to see. This situation is like arguing religion. People are too dug in to be convinced of anything.
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I think it's silly to think Eli didn't play a part in how things went down. Just look at his face when the Chargers drafted him, and that should tell you everything.I don't even dislike Eli that much. He was young player who made a mistake, but it was still a ##### move.
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You didn't explain why you think it was a #### move.
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That should be assumed based on my response. He had his daddy fight a battle for him to go to the team he wanted, unlike everyone else who just goes to the team they are drafted to. When things didnt initially go his way, he pouted on the stage.
 
'solorca said:
'roadkill1292 said:
'solorca said:
'Avery said:
'solorca said:
Many years later, and I still think it was a ##### move by Archie and Eli.
Click to expand...
What exactly did Eli do that was such a ##### move?Edit to add: Never mind. People see what they want to see. This situation is like arguing religion. People are too dug in to be convinced of anything.
Click to expand...
I think it's silly to think Eli didn't play a part in how things went down. Just look at his face when the Chargers drafted him, and that should tell you everything.I don't even dislike Eli that much. He was young player who made a mistake, but it was still a ##### move.
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You didn't explain why you think it was a #### move.
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That should be assumed based on my response. He had his daddy fight a battle for him to go to the team he wanted, unlike everyone else who just goes to the team they are drafted to. When things didnt initially go his way, he pouted on the stage.
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Thanks for the explanation. That other stuff wasn't very important to me, I just liked seeing an incoming rookie make things difficult for the league. I can't wait for an Andrew Luck type to challenge the rookie cap and even the whole draft.Fight the Power.

 
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