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I'd say this kind of thing would pretty much put an end to camping trips with Steve if you cannot get a satisfactory answer to what happened in that bathroom stall. In fact, I don't think I'd be camping with Steve anymore even if you got a satisfactory explanation... if it is true that your wife and Steve were drunk and in the same bathroom stall, that in itself indicates a problem with personal boundaries between those two.
This might be a good idea to find out the truth.Don't take this the wrong way, but you laugh a lot for someone who's wife was macking on someone else. I'll never get why ppl get so damn drunk they don't even remember what the hell happened throughout a night.
oh, and you call the guy and find out the events, i'd almost play it off as saying your wife told you everything and you want to clarify it with him.
What are you gonna do if it turns out you wife and him had the secks?
DAMN! Never thought about that! FWIW, after my ex informed me of her "extra marital" activities, I was tested the next day. I was not going to suffer for her having rampant sex! Been divorced for 12 years no and a few years ago, she told me she ended up with an STD! I was/am clean, but you never know.
This is correct.
This might be a good idea to find out the truth.Don't take this the wrong way, but you laugh a lot for someone who's wife was macking on someone else. I'll never get why ppl get so damn drunk they don't even remember what the hell happened throughout a night.
oh, and you call the guy and find out the events, i'd almost play it off as saying your wife told you everything and you want to clarify it with him.
What are you gonna do if it turns out you wife and him had the secks?
tricky, yes, but it works for the most part, he will think that she told him the whole story, and so he will tell what he remembers, ( which will most likley be the truth ) Think about it, our parents use to do this #### with us and siblings....it always resulted in teh truth coming out. Cops use it when they have 2 ppl in trouble, usually results in the truth coming out bc the one being questioned thinks the truth is already known.
yeah, cause a WIFE shouldn't be responsible for her own actions...she sounds like a good one too!
What? Its not like his friend got drunk and wrecked his car or ate his Butterfinger: dude fooled around with his wife. That's like crossing the DMZ, you just don't do it. There's obviously something going on, he can try to ignore it but its gonna come out sooner or later.
The way to play it is to tell the friend wife told you what happend but want to hear it from him. If he owns up then either knock him out or walk away, either way Steve is out of the picture for good. If he doesn't own up, then you play wife and steve off agianst each other telling one that the other blames them but you want the truth. The fact that they walked back together and at least one of them was laughing makes me think this is not good.
I agree with all of this, and I agree with everything Kilgore has said in this thread. I don't know why people find it hard to believe she doesn't remember. I have had alcohol induced blackouts more times that I would like to admit. Especially back in college. I would have different bar stamps on my hands, and I'd have no recollection of being at some, or just bits and pieces of being there. I guess it would depend on what I ate that day, my body chemistry, if I was tired, and what I was drinking, and how much. Sometimes I would just forgot a 30 minute time span, other times it would be more. People would tell me the next day that I seemed ok, just a little intoxicated. That's scary.
Well, imo, I think the next move is to tell the wife no more hanging around Steve. The flirting and drinking are not a good mix.
I think that you should cut to the chase and call Steve and get his take on this now.....
Its his wife, not his pet monkey.
Good point. You need to talk to the wife again. I too have been to the point of passing out but I always remembered what happened. I may not like what I remembered but I still remembered. Also, I thought that when people got drunk and couldn’t remember it was after they woke up the next morning. It sounds like she never passed out but had a 15 minute time span where she "blacked out", convenient. I would also think that if she was groped against her will she would have remembered that or at could have told you when you saw her. Sounds to me like she is hiding something. I could be completely wrong here but it’s worth it to talk to her one more time.I have been way drunk many times in my life and on many of those occasions I have had relations of some sort with a woman and each time I woke up the next day knowing exactly what I did with my little buddy and what I didnt. She knows what happend, she may just be choosing to forget about it. All I know is I can accomplish quite a bit in 15 mins.How come people don't buy this? Heavy drinking can induce blackouts.She was throwing up the next day, a clear sign that she had way too much too drink. MIYH knows more about his wife than we do, so it really depends on if he thinks she's lying. But from an earlier post, it sounds like he trusts her.
I don't think you need George to confirm what happened, I am leaning towards the bolded part above.
If George remembers anything and is the type of person who would be inclined to tell his wife at MITYH's inquiry, he's already told his wife what he knows, and this is likely to happen anyway.If he really didn't remember any of it, then yeah, maybe a little game of telephone is about to take place here.
I think George has done more than his part - leave him out of this.Confront the wife and based on what she says (and if you interprete her as lying) - Steve gets a beat down. If Steve does not deserve the beat down - too bad. At this point he has screwed up to the point that he knows he deserves it.
Agreed.I think you have to press George harder.He is in a situation he doesn't want to be in (and may be a bit pissed at you for not taking his advice in the first place).But you have to impart to him how important it is for you to get the truth. Ask him to put himself in your position.He obviously has loyalties to Steve, but you have to get him past that. Don't give up until you get something.
Call or better yet make a surprise visit and catch him off guard and you can read his body language and tone. Emailing would be useless.
flag here too. George knows what happened and wants no part of what comes next.
No, women with tight fitting bras with large puppies always involuntarily pop out all by themselves.
Why are you asking George and not Steve? Seems to me bringing others into this is just asking for gossip. If you want to know what Steve and your wife might have done, ask Steve. I believe your wife probably did black out, so asking her is useless. If Steve doesn't remember either, then move on, and for now on watch your wife and your own alcohol consumption.
Translated: I offered you a chance when we could have done something, I offered you a chance to be a cop and you blew it! You blew it.
This is probably one of those times you need a sit down. It's too easy to get away with it in an email.LAUNCH
Gotta love Bobby DeNiro.
Sounds like they drank alot. Even the poster who started this thread is fuzzy on events from 9 to 1 am.
Anyone else think that Steve and George had some sort of spit-roast? I'm just saying...
Unless she told them all "its GB time at the stalls!" other then seeing them go in together, what else does George know?
You are making a ton of assumptions here. Maybe George doesn't remember anything. Maybe nothing happened at all. There is only some very circumstantial evidence here. I am inclined to think that Steve would be the last person in this to tell the truth, so what MITYH is going to be faced with is three people saying they either don't remember or that nothing happened. If he trusts his wife, than it will probably be best to let this thing die, although I know he will have doubts in the back of his mind for quite awhile.Agreed.I think you have to press George harder.He is in a situation he doesn't want to be in (and may be a bit pissed at you for not taking his advice in the first place).But you have to impart to him how important it is for you to get the truth. Ask him to put himself in your position.He obviously has loyalties to Steve, but you have to get him past that. Don't give up until you get something.
