PsychoMan
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I'm starting to think that some form of this kind of trickery is the right answer - whether or not it's telling the truth.
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Marital Advice - Friendly camping trip too friendly? (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Man in the yellow hat
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SuperJohn96
RPS World Champion
Dude you are moving too slow on this.
Wife already called Steve to warn him and get their story straight, and Steve already called George to tell him to mind his own business.
If George knew something was going on but didn't have the balls/brains to step in and stop it, then he is not going to add more fuel to the fire.
He probably feels he did his duty by trying to warn you not once but twice.
Wife already called Steve to warn him and get their story straight, and Steve already called George to tell him to mind his own business.
If George knew something was going on but didn't have the balls/brains to step in and stop it, then he is not going to add more fuel to the fire.
He probably feels he did his duty by trying to warn you not once but twice.
flufhed
Footballguy
Of course he does, he is the one who tipped off Hat to begin with. Him saying he doesn't remember makes no sense. It would be very easy for him to say "Look man, all I know is what I told you that night. Your wife and Steve went into a stall together. I have no idea if anything happened." He has already said this much, so why would he now say he doesn't remember anything? He doesn't remember being concerned enough about what he saw to tell his friend twice that he should go check on his wife? That would be a very weird blackout. The kind where you are still in good enough shape to be concerned about the welfare of your friend and his wife, but drunk enough to forget the whole thing the next day.
More info would be great but it appears he's gonna get nothinng from the wife or George. If I were MIYH this would be resolved yesterday as I would have thrown a #$%^ storm calling everyone who was there to find out what happened and I would have let my wife know that she better remember ASAP or her "I don't remember" will be interepreted as a "I finally got nailed by my college crush". I just thinking waiting is the worst move possible here.
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IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
By the way, if this is a fishing trip, be sure it ends better than [scooter]'s.
mr. furley
Footballguy
oh, and, make sure to cut these friends out of your life.
Funkley
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Not sure how to help him until I understand why he didn't act when he could have not only prevented this but find out for himself what was going on.
Franknbeans
Footballguy
threesome
Kilgore Trout
Footballguy
Maybe he trusted his wife
. Chet is right, its hindsight and really doesn't matter in the context of what he should do now.
Mr. Chumley
Footballguy
My point is all George can say is they went in the stall together. He obviously suspects something as does MIYH. George thinks he did his duty and now doesn't want to be involved in the aftermath. I understand leaning on George for more info, I just don't know that he can help.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
Could Steve have slipped her some date rape drugs?
You need new friends and when camping you should always walk your wife to the restroom. Whether she is drunk or not. It is a husbands job to protect his family and part of that is not letting them wander off into the woods for a squat without you being close by.
I also think you need to be fairly aggresive with Steve. Whether anything happened or not Steve needs to know how important your wife is to you.
You need new friends and when camping you should always walk your wife to the restroom. Whether she is drunk or not. It is a husbands job to protect his family and part of that is not letting them wander off into the woods for a squat without you being close by.
I also think you need to be fairly aggresive with Steve. Whether anything happened or not Steve needs to know how important your wife is to you.
Funkley
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Trust? She admitted that she likes Steve and chased him down a dark path......drunk and then disappeared with him for 15 minutes, came back partially undressed and with Steve laughing. Trust isn't the first word that comes to mind.Maybe he trusted his wife
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
Lots of people will offer the advice of not letting a drunken encounter destroy what you have built together. I've always found that advice curious since had you truly built something together she would not have cuckholded you. There is no respect here. There can no longer be trust here. There is no honesty here. Without those how can there be love?
Sadly she could have started building something here by showing you the respect to be honest with you. Maybe from that base, and on behalf of the children, you could have built something.
As to what to do that is dependant on your values and character. What I might do should have no bearing on your decision.
Sadly she could have started building something here by showing you the respect to be honest with you. Maybe from that base, and on behalf of the children, you could have built something.
As to what to do that is dependant on your values and character. What I might do should have no bearing on your decision.
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PsychoMan
Footballguy
If George really is a good buddy, sit his ### down and let him know you're damn serious about this and you're not going to stop bugging him until you're convinced he's telling you everything he knows. Tell him you can't trust Steve or your wife if you need to, so you need him to talk. Too bad if he's uncomfortable, but a friend should end up telling you the truth about this because he knows the cheating two are the ones in the wrong, not you.
Unfortunately, I think you have to look at this one like you're all on your own. It's you vs the world. Do whatever you can to figure out what happened and go into this not trusting anyone until you're convinced you're getting the facts straight!
Unfortunately, I think you have to look at this one like you're all on your own. It's you vs the world. Do whatever you can to figure out what happened and go into this not trusting anyone until you're convinced you're getting the facts straight!
Skipdog77
Footballguy
Just wait until she decides she wants to 'remember' what it was like, and decides to do it again, sober this time. Steve already had a piece of it, and as long as she keeps coming around begging for more, he'll most likely be more than happy to give it to her.
I'd be in full 'affair-alert' if I was you, MIYH. If you decide to not confront your wife or Steve, I'd keep my eyes and ears open over the next few months. Once they think they got away with it, they will want that excitement again, and this may only fuel the fire.
Best of luck to you.
I'd be in full 'affair-alert' if I was you, MIYH. If you decide to not confront your wife or Steve, I'd keep my eyes and ears open over the next few months. Once they think they got away with it, they will want that excitement again, and this may only fuel the fire.
Best of luck to you.
Third
Footballguy
MIYH - since you're already having to play detective to find out what happened, I would highly recommend checking your wife's cell phone/home phone call record for the time period since the camping trip. A call to Steve would probably be the nail in the coffin in terms of confirming that something happened.
texasyankee
Footballguy
Agreed.....Check the cell phone records.. Also I wonder what this Steve's wife thinks about all this? You know if #### hits the fan, you can always give her a callMIYH - since you're already having to play detective to find out what happened, I would highly recommend checking your wife's cell phone/home phone call record for the time period since the camping trip. A call to Steve would probably be the nail in the coffin in terms of confirming that something happened.
Black Box
Footballguy
Another line of attack...
Trust the wife. Accept her story and explain to her what you saw. Lay out your concerns that Steve may have taken advantage of her. Press her to get tested/gather any physical evidence which may have been left behind.
If wife is being truthful, she would certainly agree with this. You are protecting her and playing up the health/we can't let Steve get away with this.
If wife is lying, she will stonewall and refuse to get tested. Of course, this would be another bad sign.
Just a thought.
Trust the wife. Accept her story and explain to her what you saw. Lay out your concerns that Steve may have taken advantage of her. Press her to get tested/gather any physical evidence which may have been left behind.
If wife is being truthful, she would certainly agree with this. You are protecting her and playing up the health/we can't let Steve get away with this.
If wife is lying, she will stonewall and refuse to get tested. Of course, this would be another bad sign.
Just a thought.
Superdbs
Footballguy
no, excellent--Let's see how fast on his feet ol' Stevie is when he's given that loaded question to deal with--I think everyone is this thread is 99.9% in agreement that something happened, probably bad, and things are probably at the confrontation stage now. Hat, I hate to tell you this, but you need to prepare for the worst, buddy. I've been there, and no matter how much you may want to believe otherwise, you have to trust what your gut is telling you...
CrossEyed
Footballguy
Like I said earlier, none of these people are your friends.
Patriotsfatboy1
Footballguy
Congrats. When you have the kid in 9 months, don't be concerned if it looks like Steve. 
When you have the kid in 9 months, don't be concerned if it looks like Steve.
Kilgore Trout
Footballguy
You're twisting the facts to what you think happened. She admitted a while back (MITYH did not say how long ago) that she had a crush on Steve way back in college almost 10 years ago. And she didn't necesarily chase him down the path, 2 guys were going to the bathroom and she needed to go to. I don't think I would have a problem with my wife going down a path with a couple of my good married male friends to go to the bathroom while camping. And lastly, it wasn't until later in the night that she realized her puppies were out of her bra, and this was just after another trip to the bathroom. While I agree that there is circumstantial evidence here, we still don't know what exactly happened. I don't know what to make about Steve laughing as I was not privy to the conversation.My question to MITYH would be why he thought things were so innocent the night before even after getting all this info, but then only later started to think there was a problem.
Buddy Lembeck
Footballguy
Good luck with this, MIYH. I've got no advice, since I've never been there... but this is a real crappy situation, and I hope you make it through as best as possible.
flufhed
Footballguy
Nail on head, meet proninja.Until reading this, I didn't even realize that "Have wife call Steve" was an option. That really changes the way I now view this whole thread. Seriously.[wife calling while you stand right there]Mrs. MIYH: Uh, hi, steve, it's me. Hey. Listen, I have to ask you something. Did anything go on between us on that camping trip? I was really drunk, and don't remember, but my husband seems to think something may have happened. Really, you sure? Ok, great.[hangs up]Mrs. MIYH: Well, sounds like nothing happened.MIYH:proninja said:
Sweet J
Footballguy
My thinking is on the assumptioin that wife did something. Sorry, MITHY, but it probably happenned.
On the bright side, if MIYH is looking for a reason to leave his wife, he's now got it. Thank goodness for small miracles.
On the other hand, if you love your wife dearly and would never want to be divorced, your situation suXor. If this is the case, you have a couple of options:
1. Go to Steve's house and go ballistic. If he's bigger than you and you can't beat the crap out of him, than . . . I don't know, just flip out, kick his cat, pee on his furniture, break a few windows, whatever. You've got to make a point here, and that point is "don't #### with the man with the yellow hat." You've got to do SOMETHING to make that point. If you are a smallish, weakish, timidish, kind of guy, than you gotta think outside of the box a little bit, really explore your space. You've got to let everybody concerned know -- Steve, George, your wife, everybody, that this #### can never ever happen again. Then make amends with your wife, tell her that you are sorry you flipped out, you don't know what got into you, etc.
You know, now that I think about it, I kind of like this option. I'd stick with it.
The only other option I see is:
2. Tell yourself nothing happenned, trust your wife, love her and forgive her. BUT FOR ####'s SAKE, DON'T LET HER SCREW A GUY RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU AGAIN. If she wants to sneak around on you, that's fine, but not like that.
On the bright side, if MIYH is looking for a reason to leave his wife, he's now got it. Thank goodness for small miracles.
On the other hand, if you love your wife dearly and would never want to be divorced, your situation suXor. If this is the case, you have a couple of options:
1. Go to Steve's house and go ballistic. If he's bigger than you and you can't beat the crap out of him, than . . . I don't know, just flip out, kick his cat, pee on his furniture, break a few windows, whatever. You've got to make a point here, and that point is "don't #### with the man with the yellow hat." You've got to do SOMETHING to make that point. If you are a smallish, weakish, timidish, kind of guy, than you gotta think outside of the box a little bit, really explore your space. You've got to let everybody concerned know -- Steve, George, your wife, everybody, that this #### can never ever happen again. Then make amends with your wife, tell her that you are sorry you flipped out, you don't know what got into you, etc.
You know, now that I think about it, I kind of like this option. I'd stick with it.
The only other option I see is:
2. Tell yourself nothing happenned, trust your wife, love her and forgive her. BUT FOR ####'s SAKE, DON'T LET HER SCREW A GUY RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU AGAIN. If she wants to sneak around on you, that's fine, but not like that.
bigfun54
Footballguy
...and how! We've gotten to a point know where people are starting to light the torches and sharpen the pitchforks, and yet in the moment, nothing.
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ianfitzy
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She atleast gave him head... She didn't go into the same stall and watch him take a dump for 15 minutes.
Here's a good guess at what happened.
Wife goes into the stall to pee. Steve comes in after. She asks him to get out, laughing it off, he refuses saying he will just go after she goes. She sits down, drops her drawers and goes. While the wife is in the sitting position, Steve the snake takes this opportunity to whip out his #### and playfully pretend to pee at the same time. She catches a glimpse of it and makes a playful motion to grab for it. Steve the snake takes full advantage of this woman sitting down, with her face at crotch level and I'll leave the end of the story up to you.
As I've said and others have said already... at the VERY least. He saw her partially nude, and she saw him at least partially nude and they likely made out. I doubt they had actual intercourse, but a blowie and some boobie grabbing is definitly in the ballpark of what happened.
Wife goes into the stall to pee. Steve comes in after. She asks him to get out, laughing it off, he refuses saying he will just go after she goes. She sits down, drops her drawers and goes. While the wife is in the sitting position, Steve the snake takes this opportunity to whip out his #### and playfully pretend to pee at the same time. She catches a glimpse of it and makes a playful motion to grab for it. Steve the snake takes full advantage of this woman sitting down, with her face at crotch level and I'll leave the end of the story up to you.
As I've said and others have said already... at the VERY least. He saw her partially nude, and she saw him at least partially nude and they likely made out. I doubt they had actual intercourse, but a blowie and some boobie grabbing is definitly in the ballpark of what happened.
Third
Footballguy
Sweet J
Footballguy
I won't quote the whole post because a couple of guys already have, but this is exactly the kind of thing I was thinking. Ninja's whole post was spot-on.In addition to my suggestion to go nuts on Steve, you gotta lay it on your wife a little bit too. Nothing physical, but you may want to give her a vision of what it would be like to live the life of a single, divorced, mom. Talk about splitting up, selling the house, splitting days with the kids. Do something, show a little bit of fire. And good luck. I'm sorry, man.proninja said:
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
Are you a Steve?
CrossEyed
Footballguy
You're wrong. Just because some marriages end badly doesn't mean that all marriages are bad.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Qualtiy five-star posting here.proninja said:
