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Mark Clayton - Is now the time to grab him? (1 Viewer)

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Looking for some thoughts from the shark pool. What does everyone think about Mark Clayton? With his return in two weeks, it seems like now would be the time to grab him before anyone else has a chance. I am dropping Jacoby Ford for him. I think its worth the chance.

 
I have an eye on him but I am going to wait. Until he is added to the roster I have concerns that he might not be fully recovered or at the least not recovered enough to have fantasy impact. There is a chance he could come off the PUP list and sit around a couple weeks and then go on IR.

 
I haven't heard anything about how his health is. To me, that's the key. If he's healthy, I think he has a good shot at immediately becoming the go-to-guy in that offense. Really clicked with Bradford early last year before the injury, and no one has stepped up to claim a starting role IMO. If you have room I'd grab him for sure -- Jacoby Ford, I don't know if I'd drop him quite yet.

 
Would you drop Titus Young for him? I am debating it myself. I had Clayton on my waiver to drop Jacoby Jones, but suprisingly Tebow fell to me at #12 waiver.

 
In all of my leagues the time to grab him was last week. Went right before me in waivers and went for about 15% in FABB. We have short benches too.

 
Clayton is still available in both my 12 team leagues. It seems too soon for me. Until I hear when he is coming back, I cannot afford to waste a roster spot.

 
'HULLOBUDMAN said:
In all of my leagues the time to grab him was last week. Went right before me in waivers and went for about 15% in FABB. We have short benches too.
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That surprises me. If he comes back healthy and ready to play I'm all over it, but so far I have no reason to think that will be the case.
 
im taking the chance and i grabbed him in 2 leagues last week and going to find room for him on my other two leagues this week. Time is now befor he starts to get hot!! Pre-emptive!!!

 
He's on my radar in the one league I am thin at WR, but I don't have the room right now. I'm thinking now is the time, though. Waiting until it's confirmed that he's off PUP seems like a good way to lose FAAB or waiver priority. Free is the way to go!

 
'Flying Elvis said:
He's on my radar in the one league I am thin at WR, but I don't have the room right now. I'm thinking now is the time, though. Waiting until it's confirmed that he's off PUP seems like a good way to lose FAAB or waiver priority. Free is the way to go!
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Checked his twitter feed. He says he's doing really well. Was doing contact drills and stuff like 4 weeks ago. Says he's read to go probably at Dallas.
 
I don't know if this is worth much, but this is from a chat yesterday with a beat writer for the St. Louis Post-Dispatch (emphasis added):

Derek: Is Clayton ready and able to come back and help out at wr this week? thanks.

Jim Thomas: Clayton is eligible to return to the active roster after this week, meaning in theory he could play against Dallas on Oct. 23. Whether that's realistic remains to be seen. After missing so much time following the knee surgery, Clayton might need a week or two to get up to speed. But he says he's healthy and ready to go.

Read more: http://interact.stltoday.com/discussions/sports/jim-thomas-live/LD1007111557/all#ixzz1aaABRtsa

 
Dropped Jacoby Ford for him but might drop Clayton for James Jones if I don't find positive info on his current status. Haven't been able to find information on his status. It's odd, I'd think with the week 6 PUP deadline the beat writers would be asking about when/if he'll be ready to start practicing.

 
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'Wadsworth said:
'HULLOBUDMAN said:
In all of my leagues the time to grab him was last week. Went right before me in waivers and went for about 15% in FABB. We have short benches too.
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That surprises me. If he comes back healthy and ready to play I'm all over it, but so far I have no reason to think that will be the case.
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Probably should have mentioned in the one league everyone lives in Saint Louis so there may be some emphasis on STL news and the Rams. The FABB may have been early and high for that reason.I am desperate in the other league where I missed him for WR with underperforming Harvin, L Moore and David Nelson to pair with V Jax.I thought it was a good risk to take early. We all saw his upside in limited time with the Rams in a PPR. Clearly he operates well with Bradford and since Bradford has not really developed any chemistry with another WR as of yet, I think you can educatedly guess that when Clayton gets in there that he will get the ball alot.As a con, the O is not running nearly as many of the dink and dunk routes it did under Schurmur as it is under McDaniels. Because of this, the offensive line is having to pass protect longer and they are doing a horrible job of it, especially with no SJax to take the heat off the passing game. The change in offense could present a problem but he came in and performed with almost no practice time last year (IIRC Clayton was a late training camp cut by BALT)I just think that Clayton has way more upside in PPR than that the guys available in my league (Breaston, D. Williams Ten, and Little). The Rams D is horrible and they will be passing a ton.
 
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Rams better do something. Seems like McD should be fired already.

Clayton was last week in my leagues, and there was a thread on it then too

Good luck if you can get him

 
No link but I read something that Clayton would be ready to practice first day eligible– Oct. 19.

Also read he was ready to play Wk. 1 but the rams wanted to buy some time to evaluate their other WR's. No Amendola's hurt, the rookies Salas and pettis have done crap and Sims-Walker and Gibson aren't cutting it. Only D. Alexander seems to be worth a damn.

I think the question isn't will Clayton get his looks and opportunities, more like what are the lingering effects of this particular surgery. Thought i had read it as an easier recovery and quicker to 100% than a normal ACL surgery.

 
'rawdog said:
No link but I read something that Clayton would be ready to practice first day eligible– Oct. 19.Also read he was ready to play Wk. 1 but the rams wanted to buy some time to evaluate their other WR's. No Amendola's hurt, the rookies Salas and pettis have done crap and Sims-Walker and Gibson aren't cutting it. Only D. Alexander seems to be worth a damn.I think the question isn't will Clayton get his looks and opportunities, more like what are the lingering effects of this particular surgery. Thought i had read it as an easier recovery and quicker to 100% than a normal ACL surgery.
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That isn't necessarily true. I wrote a little bit about it on another thread in here (medical student here so take it for what you will). The recovery is typically harder BUT you would assume the return to 100% to happen possibly faster.
 
You all remember how Welker wasn't 100% after his knee injury, right? From everything I have read this is much worse...there were rumors he might not be able to walk again without a limp. I can't see him being a force if he is only 75% of the way back. Rams were trying lots of guys, signed MSW, drafted 2 more WRs, doesn't seem IMHO that they were counting on Clayton this year. I think he is 29 but I could be wrong. Darrell Jackson was in his late 20s when his knees fell apart.

I like him as perhaps a dynasty pick up. He has been on the waiver wire in several of those leagues but in redraft I think it's a stretch in must start 2 and 3 leagues.

I would focus on one of the rookies who is promoted to first team, seems like maybe a better option.

What's to say he doesn't hurt it again, doubtful he comes back off the PUP at 100%.

But I'm open to reading more about him.

 
I dont have room to pick him up now...My rosters are full of guys Im hoping stick as WR3's - DHB, Breaston, Damian Williams, Decker (not sold with Tebow) - so Im giving them a couple more weeks to see what happens. If 1 tails off, Id take a gamble on Clayton assuming more info comes out about his health closer to when he actually would see the field.

 
ROTOWORLD 10/13/11

Rams WR Mark Clayton (PUP, knee) is scheduled to return to practice next week.

In the first four games of last season, Clayton amassed 22 catches for 300 yards and two touchdowns. Then he tore his patellar tendon in Week 5. With the Rams' receiving corps looking even shakier than expected this season thanks to Danny Amendola's arm injury and the struggles of Greg Salas/Austin Pettis, Clayton is certainly on the fantasy radar. He will be eligible to return in Week 8 against the Saints

Source- St. Louis Post Dispatch

Cats out of the bag- Just picked him up!

 
'Ministry of Pain said:
You all remember how Welker wasn't 100% after his knee injury, right? From everything I have read this is much worse...there were rumors he might not be able to walk again without a limp. I can't see him being a force if he is only 75% of the way back. Rams were trying lots of guys, signed MSW, drafted 2 more WRs, doesn't seem IMHO that they were counting on Clayton this year. I think he is 29 but I could be wrong. Darrell Jackson was in his late 20s when his knees fell apart. I like him as perhaps a dynasty pick up. He has been on the waiver wire in several of those leagues but in redraft I think it's a stretch in must start 2 and 3 leagues. I would focus on one of the rookies who is promoted to first team, seems like maybe a better option. What's to say he doesn't hurt it again, doubtful he comes back off the PUP at 100%. But I'm open to reading more about him.
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I am not sure that there should be a Welker to Clayton comparission in injury, performance, situation etc but if we want to... WElker hurt his knee in January 2009 then came back to post 86/868/7. This would be 9 months after suffering his initial injury. Clearly he was not the same player as he was pre-injury.From week 10 on he posted 42/493/4 over 6 games. This string of games would be approximately 11 months after the injury occoured. That is an average of 7/82/.8 or about 19 points per game in a PPR.Clayton has had a full one year to recover and rehab (think it will acutally be 2 or 3 weeks more). He may have to shake some rust off but I still believe there is a realistic apportunity for WR2 numbers from week 8 on.I am not saying that Little or Williams or some type of younger, inexperienced player may not end up posting better numbers than CLayton but we have already seen what Bradford to Clayton has produced. You can't really say that is the case with Little or Williams or any other rookie that just got promoted to first team.
 
4pm ET deadline is today...

Rotoworld:

All signs point toward the Rams activating Mark Clayton (Achilles, knee) off the PUP list Wednesday, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

The Rams have until 4pm ET today to make a decision on Clayton. But with Greg Salas (leg) done for the year, Danario Alexander taking it slow with a hamstring injury and Brandon Gibson nursing a quad ailment, they might not have a choice. Clayton has experience at both the slot and flanker positions, but has never played in Josh McDaniels' offense. The Rams plan on taking one more look at Clayton in practice today.

:popcorn:

 
'lexdizzle said:
4pm ET deadline is today...Rotoworld:All signs point toward the Rams activating Mark Clayton (Achilles, knee) off the PUP list Wednesday, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.The Rams have until 4pm ET today to make a decision on Clayton. But with Greg Salas (leg) done for the year, Danario Alexander taking it slow with a hamstring injury and Brandon Gibson nursing a quad ailment, they might not have a choice. Clayton has experience at both the slot and flanker positions, but has never played in Josh McDaniels' offense. The Rams plan on taking one more look at Clayton in practice today. :popcorn:
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I am a big fan of Clayton but at this point you have to ask why they have waited this long. If he was truly healthy and ready to go I can't imagine the Rams would have waited until the 11th hour.
 
'Wadsworth said:
I am a big fan of Clayton but at this point you have to ask why they have waited this long. If he was truly healthy and ready to go I can't imagine the Rams would have waited until the 11th hour.
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To say they waited til the 11th hour isn't right. There's 2 injuries - the knee and the achilles. The patella tendon knee injury from last year is why he was on PUP, and that was healthy enough that he began practicing. Then when he started practicing he hurt his achilles and was in a walking boot. So it became a question of the achilles strain healing in time.
 
Activated.

Mark Clayton - WR - RamsRams activated WR Mark Clayton (Achilles, knee) from the PUP list.According to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch's Jim Thomas, Clayton will be active against the Browns. Sam Bradford's favorite target before tearing his right patellar tendon in Week 5 last season, Clayton could be in for a big role from the get-go with Danario Alexander (hamstring) ailing and Greg Salas done for the season. Even though Austin Pettis is expected to man the slot in Salas' absence, Clayton is worth an immediate flier in deeper leagues.Source: Jim Thomas on TwitterNov 9 - 3:52 PM
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'Nigel Tufnel said:
Activated.

Mark Clayton - WR - RamsRams activated WR Mark Clayton (Achilles, knee) from the PUP list.According to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch's Jim Thomas, Clayton will be active against the Browns. Sam Bradford's favorite target before tearing his right patellar tendon in Week 5 last season, Clayton could be in for a big role from the get-go with Danario Alexander (hamstring) ailing and Greg Salas done for the season. Even though Austin Pettis is expected to man the slot in Salas' absence, Clayton is worth an immediate flier in deeper leagues.Source: Jim Thomas on TwitterNov 9 - 3:52 PM
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Hmm hmm hmm... 3x Lloyd owner... Salas injury thrusting the Clayton activation? So we got Lloyd, Gibson, Pettis, Clayton and D.Alex soon. May be too many around to waste a waiver spot on Clayton...
 
So who is the better pickup, Pettis or Clayton? I decided to grab Pettis today, but I'm thinking Clayton may be a bit more of a homerun possibility.

 
'thriftyrocker said:
'Wadsworth said:
I am a big fan of Clayton but at this point you have to ask why they have waited this long. If he was truly healthy and ready to go I can't imagine the Rams would have waited until the 11th hour.
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To say they waited til the 11th hour isn't right. There's 2 injuries - the knee and the achilles. The patella tendon knee injury from last year is why he was on PUP, and that was healthy enough that he began practicing. Then when he started practicing he hurt his achilles and was in a walking boot. So it became a question of the achilles strain healing in time.
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yeah, he was physically unable to perform
 
Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo said Mark Clayton may not be active for Sunday's game against the Browns.

Even if Clayton is part of the 46-man roster, his role this week figures to be limited. "We're still talking about a guy who didn't go through training camp, hadn't been in a game in a long time, so we'll have to slowly ease him in," Spagnuolo said. Austin Pettis is a good bet to act as the primary slot man this week. Related: Austin PettisSource: St Louis Post-Dispatch
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Yea Pettis might be the play in PPR this week but i dont think next week you will be able to add Clayton. Now is the time to get him. He can win you your league with the Rams easy schedule the rest of the way. Pettis will put up a few points but im not looking for a 10 spot. I want to win my league with a 20 spot from Clayton! Im adding him now.

 
The St. Louis Rams twitter feed posted this on Mark Clayton: "Yes, WR Mark Clayton is active. Expected to play a lot. Don't be surprised to see a lot of Clayton and Lloyd on outside, Pettis in slot."
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Any predictions? Tempted to play this guy today over the likes of Simpson and Jacoby Jones.
 
'nysportsfan said:
The St. Louis Rams twitter feed posted this on Mark Clayton: "Yes, WR Mark Clayton is active. Expected to play a lot. Don't be surprised to see a lot of Clayton and Lloyd on outside, Pettis in slot."
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Any predictions? Tempted to play this guy today over the likes of Simpson and Jacoby Jones.
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45 MPH gusts for a team used to playing indoors, not liking a guy that hasn't played a lick in well over a year. I like picking him up off waivers and holding him for a week or two.
 
'nysportsfan said:
The St. Louis Rams twitter feed posted this on Mark Clayton: "Yes, WR Mark Clayton is active. Expected to play a lot. Don't be surprised to see a lot of Clayton and Lloyd on outside, Pettis in slot."
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Any predictions? Tempted to play this guy today over the likes of Simpson and Jacoby Jones.
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