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Mark Ingram new knee surgery (1 Viewer)
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ShaneFalco
Footballguy
Knee Scope. Pretty routine. Will be ready for the season. Expect wild overreactions though...
dirtyhalos
capital letter hater!
no!!!!!!!!!!
sspunisher
Footballguy
I'm willing to bet it drags well beyond the 6 week mark into training camp.
No he didn't.Trent has a minor cleanup that barely kept him out at all. Ingram had a procedure that is keeping him out of action a minimum of 6 weeks. Also as someone posted earlier there were rumors of a degenerative knee condition with Ingram.
Shawnky
Footballguy
Trent's surgery kept him from drills at the combine. I don't see the difference, but I'm not a player basher. Some of you guys should do everyone a favor and stay away.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
But at least they didn't give up too much to get him.
Team ROFLCOPTERS
Footballguy
This is just silly. Because he has AKS he's a bust. It's just a routine, non threatening surgery. And don't say that he had a bad year last year. He did very well in his opportunities despite being in the worst position possible to succeed, as Sean Payton admitted.'Warpig said:
benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
u own ingram, we get it'Shawnky said:
Team ROFLCOPTERS
Footballguy
So since he is being reasonable and not making sensational claims and comments he must be biased?
benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
This part screams frustration and an Ingram owner...thought that was clear to see.
Multiple Scores
Footballguy
Turd
Shawnky
Footballguy
& Trent, so get with that
Casting Couch
Footballguy
I'm afraid this may be the case.'Warpig said:
Not droppable, but tradeable for pretty much anything of value.
Phenix
Footballguy
You own a broken RB and a Brown RB? Ouch. Trent may be good but he is a Brown now. Weeden or Colt at QB and no WRs worth a damn, this is gonna be yet another mess for Cleveland. Cleveland in a sense of the town for sports has a jinx on it of some sort. Lets not get started on the Ingram mess, knee has issues and team is in a hail storm. You may need to look elsewhere for runners.So get with that!
jurb26
Footballguy
Has it ever crossed your mind that perhaps it is frustration because a lot of people come here for information which they plan to use to help them make decisions. It can certainly be frustrating to have to weed through all of the pissing matches to actually get to the real information that will help you. That has nothing to do with being an owner of a guy. About 90% of the pissing in the pool includes some version of "you must be a player X owner."
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
As a #1 pick in many FF drafts, he is heading into bust area
I agree, definitely too soon to call him a bust. I will admit I'm becoming a bit leery of him though.
need2know
Footballguy
this ffs. the you must own him argument is woat bad and completely useless.
Touchdown There
Footballguy
maxwelledison
Footballguy
Too early to give up entirely but I'm very concerned. Injuries plus underwhelming early performances is not what I expected.
jurb26
Footballguy
When he was healthy I thought he looked pretty good. It's certainly way to early to give up on him. If you're an owner you should hold as the buying price is going to be at rock bottom and nobody is going to give you squat for him.
jurb26
Footballguy
The only stat I keep in pick up basketball is wins... 7 in a row 2 nights ago. All other stats are meaningless as W's are the only thing that keeps you on the court!'benson_will_lead_the_way said:You care waaay too much about a message board. How are your stats from your last pickup basketball game?
I was in the pool
Footballguy
Glad I traded Ingram for Decker recently
Crazy Tony
Footballguy
Some of you guys deserve to be flagged for piling on.
FORGET THE BUST/KNEE DEBATE... that doesn't matter.
WHAT MATTERS: Can He Be Acquired for a discount? How would you nay-sayers value him today? Do you really think we've seen all that Ingram has to offer in the NFL? My thought is...he's pretty good even w/ bad knees. We haven't seen his ceiling yet. I live in Portland and the Blazers got a few good years out of Brandon Roy's knees.
I'm willing to gamble on him.
The owner in my league has:
Jahvid Best injury concerns
Fred Jackson injury concerns
Mark Ingram #1 overall 2011 draft.
Reggie Bush best RB on his team so far.
Ryan Grant which team?
Ricky Williams Retired
Danny Woodhead. backup
and the 1.04 and 1.06 picks.
FORGET THE BUST/KNEE DEBATE... that doesn't matter.
WHAT MATTERS: Can He Be Acquired for a discount? How would you nay-sayers value him today? Do you really think we've seen all that Ingram has to offer in the NFL? My thought is...he's pretty good even w/ bad knees. We haven't seen his ceiling yet. I live in Portland and the Blazers got a few good years out of Brandon Roy's knees.
I'm willing to gamble on him.
The owner in my league has:
Jahvid Best injury concerns
Fred Jackson injury concerns
Mark Ingram #1 overall 2011 draft.
Reggie Bush best RB on his team so far.
Ryan Grant which team?
Ricky Williams Retired
Danny Woodhead. backup
and the 1.04 and 1.06 picks.
Clifford
Footballguy
IIRC he hurt it bad and missed quite a few games his junior season, though it could have been his sophomore. I'm getting old.Ingram's knee was a known concern heading into the draft. IMO this is a bad sign and needs to be monitored closely.
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KellysHeroes
Footballguy
He played 10 games last and touched the ball less than 150 times, I would puke if I was am Ingram owner. Bump sporles
Touchdown There
Footballguy
He can be acquired at a discount because Sproles and PT are still there. They both signed a 4 year contract last year. You will get what you pay for at a discount.
saintfool
Dead sexy
sproles role is pretty well defined, i think. i'd bump thomas and maybe even ivory (who could be fantasy relevant again this year).
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Liquid Tension
Footballguy
This is the strategy if you are an owner. My opinion was that he looked more ordinary than expected. Sproles stole the show away from him and honestly Thomas looked better than he did in their opportunities. I am not too worried about the surgery, I am more worried that he didn't look as good as he should have.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
So was Garrison Hearst his first 3-4 seasons in the league, he was drafted #3 overall.
Really...? Wow, that's a big deal if true.
that was my take as well, but micro fracture..?
Multiple Scores
Footballguy
Never liked him as a prospect.
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