Marshawn Lynch and the Bills Backfield (1 Viewer)

[NDyse10]

Any local homers have any insight on what is going in with the three Bills running backs, specifically Marshawn Lynch? Last I heard he was entrenched in the doghouse, and no more trade rumblings have come up.

I think many owners have no idea what sort of value to attach to him because of the situation he is in. Also, his value would skyrocket if he was traded. But the unknown of if he is going to stay in Buffalo stymies many owners, and makes it frustrating when other owners offer trades for him.

So what do most people think his value is, in both a redraft and a keeper/dynasty?

 

[texasbirdfan]

Any local homers have any insight on what is going in with the three Bills running backs, specifically Marshawn Lynch? Last I heard he was entrenched in the doghouse, and no more trade rumblings have come up.I think many owners have no idea what sort of value to attach to him because of the situation he is in. Also, his value would skyrocket if he was traded. But the unknown of if he is going to stay in Buffalo stymies many owners, and makes it frustrating when other owners offer trades for him.So what do most people think his value is, in both a redraft and a keeper/dynasty?

It is beyond me what goes through the Buffalo and San Diego GM's heads when it comes to Vincent Jackson and M. Lynch. Stubborn machismo (or is it idiocy) takes on new meaning...

 

[Clifford]

CJ Spiller is holding out, and if he doesn't get in camp this weekend, the Bills backfield will look very similar to what we saw last year, at least for the first half of the year.

 

[identikit]

Report: C.J. Spiller likely to sign with Bills today

Posted by Michael David Smith on August 6, 2010 9:17 AM ET

Only two first-round draft picks remain unsigned. By the end of the day that number may be down to one.

John Clayton reported this morning on ESPN Radio that Bills first-round draft pick C.J. Spiller is likely to get his contract done today.

According to Clayton, the Bills and Spiller's camp made a lot of progress on Thursday, and Spiller should be done negotiating and in camp by the end of the day.

The only other unsigned first-round pick is Russell Okung of the Seahawks.

 

[Clifford]

Bills camp just got interesting

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

I don't believe that Lynch is in Gailey's doghouse or anyone's for that matter. Lynch has actually had a relatively good off season ie no legal problems and has shown a very good attitude so far in camp in spite of his reduced role behind Fred Jackson. I actually think Lynch's physical style is a good match with Gailey's more physical approach in camp and this has been a good opportunity for Marshawn to cement his place on this team. I think a trade at this point is not likely and that all three backs will have specified roles in a RBBC situation. Frankly, with this o-line, I still don't see much fantasy value for any of these backs this season.

 

[Clifford]

Buffalo ranked 8th in the league last year in ypc. Why is everyone so down on their line?

 

[rizzler]

Buffalo ranked 8th in the league last year in ypc. Why is everyone so down on their line?

it's in fashion.

 

[zamboni]

Lynch is one of my top "stash away" players for keeper/dynasty leagues. His time to be the guy in Buffalo has largely come and gone, but I think he could flourish if he gets an opportunity elsewhere next year.

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

Buffalo ranked 8th in the league last year in ypc. Why is everyone so down on their line?

Those numbers are skewed a bit by the Colts no show game week 17. I would say the Bills were a middle of the road run team which couldn't throw the ball into the ocean. Maybe a bit better at running between the 20's than I gave them credit for but they couldn't grind out tough yards on third and short or down at the goal line. By almost anyone's definition, this o-line was a major weakness last year. Injuries and inexperience certainly played a part in the offensive problems they had. They didn't have a dependable left tackle and still don't. I'm just not very optimistic about them being able to run for oodles of yards and td's from this group.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Buffalo ranked 8th in the league last year in ypc. Why is everyone so down on their line?

even though his numbers didn't reflect it, TO drew a lot of extra attention. With him gone, most defenses will be stacking 8 in the box and daring the Bills to beat them with the passing game.the interior of the Bills line should be a strength if Eric Wood returns healthy, but the tackles could be among the worst in the league.as for Lynch, it sounds like Fred Jackson has been getting the bulk of the work with the 1st team offense thus far. Now that Spiller is signed, Lynch could see even less work in camp and it seems obvious that the coaching staff will want to find ways to use the player they had a role in drafting. It's looking like Lynch will need a Jackson injury (or a trade) to make any fantasy impact this year.

 

[theglorydays]

Bills sign C.J. Spiller ... five years, $25 million. Max of $37.5 million. $20.5 million guarantees

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Bills sign C.J. Spiller ... five years, $25 million. Max of $37.5 million. $20.5 million guarantees

thank you GD

 

[TitansFan10]

Does the signing now make it more likely that a trade happens or is a trade of the question this year?

 

[JMJ]

Order I'd want to own Bills RBs (if I had to):

Spiller

Jackson

Lynch

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Order I'd want to own Bills RBs (if I had to):SpillerJacksonLynch

In redraft right?

 

[JMJ]

Order I'd want to own Bills RBs (if I had to):SpillerJacksonLynch

In redraft right?

Yes, but probably the same order in keeper or dynasty league as well. Never been too impressed by Lynch. Don't think he is shifty enough to be a star RB in the NFL. He would need a GREAT OLine who opens huge holes and he'd be the kind of guy who just got what the OLine was giving him. Don't see him as a creator at all.

 

[pantherclub]

I think drafting Lynch anywhere past the 9th round is the shark move. I watched Spiller his entire career and he is not an everydown grind it out type back that Lynch is. I think CJ will serve a specific purpose on that offense and do very well but I doubt he is going to be the fantasy player many think he will this year. I personally think Lynch has a ton more talent then jackson and will win the job sometime before midseason

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Order I'd want to own Bills RBs (if I had to):SpillerJacksonLynch

I think most fantasy owners agree with you, which has made Spiller very overvalued and Jackson very undervalued, IMO.

 

[OldMilwaukee]

Order I'd want to own Bills RBs (if I had to):SpillerJacksonLynch

I think most fantasy owners agree with you, which has made Spiller very overvalued and Jackson very undervalued, IMO.

Wouldn't that make Lynch even more undervalued?LynchJackson SpillerNow that CJ's in town, I'll hit training camp up a couple of times and it should become more clear (IMO).

 

[texasbirdfan]

I think drafting Lynch anywhere past the 9th round is the shark move. I watched Spiller his entire career and he is not an everydown grind it out type back that Lynch is. I think CJ will serve a specific purpose on that offense and do very well but I doubt he is going to be the fantasy player many think he will this year. I personally think Lynch has a ton more talent then jackson and will win the job sometime before midseason

kind of agree if they keep Lynch on the roster and not dangle him for bait. Fred is just plain old for a lead back

 

[AtomicDogg97]

I think Jackson is the guy to own here.

 

[texasbirdfan]

I think Jackson is the guy to own here.

at what price though? The shark move is Lynch if he's not in any doghouse now as has been said.....

 

[Sopranos25]

I think Jackson is the guy to own here.

at what price though? The shark move is Lynch if he's not in any doghouse now as has been said.....

Jackson was a top 15 RB in PPR AND non PPR. Lynch has done nothing then or now to affect a change. If you feel a Rookie RB will top 1300 yrds and 4 tds and he plays for the Bills i dont see it at all. Jackson has been going RB 26-30 and has been dropped in 2 of my 4 redrafts...

 

[SproutDaddy]

Never been too impressed by Lynch. Don't think he is shifty enough to be a star RB in the NFL. He would need a GREAT OLine who opens huge holes and he'd be the kind of guy who just got what the OLine was giving him. Don't see him as a creator at all.

I take it you didn't watch him play his 1st 2 years in the league. He wasn't given much of a chance last year due to his stupidity. That situation doesn't take away from his talent.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Never been too impressed by Lynch. Don't think he is shifty enough to be a star RB in the NFL. He would need a GREAT OLine who opens huge holes and he'd be the kind of guy who just got what the OLine was giving him. Don't see him as a creator at all.

I take it you didn't watch him play his 1st 2 years in the league. He wasn't given much of a chance last year due to his stupidity. That situation doesn't take away from his talent.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Order I'd want to own Bills RBs (if I had to):SpillerJacksonLynch

I think most fantasy owners agree with you, which has made Spiller very overvalued and Jackson very undervalued, IMO.

Wouldn't that make Lynch even more undervalued?LynchJackson SpillerNow that CJ's in town, I'll hit training camp up a couple of times and it should become more clear (IMO)

Not necessarily. I think it makes the most sense for Jackson to be the feature back and spiller to be a change of pace guy. If lynch gets regular work too, it means none of these guys are worth much.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I think Jackson is the guy to own here.

at what price though? The shark move is Lynch if he's not in any doghouse now as has been said.....

I think the shark move is to draft the person who is going to produce, not just take the guy that is drafted in the later rounds. At this point, I'm more inclinced ot think that Fred Jackson is going to be the most productive back in Buffalo. Being able to see through Spillner (who will still be around and used frequently) and Lynch is a Shark move IMO.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

Never been too impressed by Lynch. Don't think he is shifty enough to be a star RB in the NFL. He would need a GREAT OLine who opens huge holes and he'd be the kind of guy who just got what the OLine was giving him. Don't see him as a creator at all.

I take it you didn't watch him play his 1st 2 years in the league. He wasn't given much of a chance last year due to his stupidity. That situation doesn't take away from his talent.

Exactly. Lynch is very talented. He just needs to get his head right.That said, I think all three will get a lot of reps. Combine that with the fact that their offense will be poor, and you get no FF value in a redraft. That's my two cents. I'd keep my eye on CJ and Lynch in keepers/dynasties.

 

[todisco1]

Never been too impressed by Lynch. Don't think he is shifty enough to be a star RB in the NFL. He would need a GREAT OLine who opens huge holes and he'd be the kind of guy who just got what the OLine was giving him. Don't see him as a creator at all.

I take it you didn't watch him play his 1st 2 years in the league. He wasn't given much of a chance last year due to his stupidity. That situation doesn't take away from his talent.

The guy has some talent, but I don't think he's elite by any stretch. He's a Ryan Grant/Cedric Benson type IMO, he needs a lot of carries to be productive. His ypc were very pedestrian at 4.0 in '07 and 4.1 in '08.

 

[texasbirdfan]

I think Jackson is the guy to own here.

at what price though? The shark move is Lynch if he's not in any doghouse now as has been said.....

I think the shark move is to draft the person who is going to produce, not just take the guy that is drafted in the later rounds. At this point, I'm more inclinced ot think that Fred Jackson is going to be the most productive back in Buffalo. Being able to see through Spillner (who will still be around and used frequently) and Lynch is a Shark move IMO.

Can I be in your league? Drafting is getting value by snagging players in mid and late rounds that are overlooked or unpredicted by your opponents. Very few players with more potential upside than Lynch at an ADP of 155.

 

[jurb26]

As a critic of Spiller coming out but drafted him on one of my dynasty teams anyway I'd love to hear how he's looking at camp.

 

[identikit]

Bills could revisit trading Marshawn Lynch

8/13/2010 4:27:46 PM

According to Adam Caplan of FOXSports.com the Buffalo Bills could revisit a Marshawn Lynch trade if C.J. Spiller impresses in the preseason.

Lynch denied requesting a trade after staying away from Bills facilities for much of the offseason. The Bills would be a little overcrowded in the backfield with Spiller, Lynch, and Fred Jackson.

Lynch rushed for just 450 yards in 2009 after losing his starting job to Fred Jackson.

 

[swirvenirvin]

I think Jackson is the guy to own here.

He was unplayable in a ton of games last year, don't let his final numbers fool you

 

[Eastwood]

very nice looking run by Spiller there!

 

[YellaJacket]

Freddy is out, hurt his hand.

Lynch is out, reportedly an ankle.

Good for this Spiller owner, bad for those players.

 

[theglorydays]

From what i've read Fred Jackson had a cast on his hand. Doesn't look good.

 

[TheBradyBunch]

Jackson to miss rest of preseasonChris BrownPosted August 13, 2010 – 10:24 pmTags: Fred Jackson, Marshawn LynchBills RB Fred Jackson suffered an ankle injury in the first half and head coach Chan Gailey said he will miss the rest of the preseason.“Fred hurt his hand and we hope to be able to get him back for the first game,” said Chan Gailey. “We’re not sure.”Marshawn Lynch suffered an ankle injury that is Gailey did not know the immediate severity of.More on this on the home page at Buffalobills.com later tonight.

 

[death of the cool]

Jackson to miss rest of preseasonChris BrownPosted August 13, 2010 – 10:24 pmTags: Fred Jackson, Marshawn LynchBills RB Fred Jackson suffered an ankle injury in the first half and head coach Chan Gailey said he will miss the rest of the preseason.“Fred hurt his hand and we hope to be able to get him back for the first game,” said Chan Gailey. “We’re not sure.”Marshawn Lynch suffered an ankle injury that is Gailey did not know the immediate severity of.More on this on the home page at Buffalobills.com later tonight.

well this should give us a nice look at Spiller...it may even make is ADP creep up over the next few weeks

 

[JohnnyU]

KFFL) Buffalo Bills head coach Chan Gailey said he hopes the ankle injury to RB Marshawn Lynch (ankle) is "more short-term than it is long-term," according to The Associated Press.