B Maverick
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I have the same thoughts... And it was.
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Marvel Cinematic Universe - Fantastic Four - No Homework Required (8 Viewers)
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kupcho1
Footballguy
Welcome to the club.
I've been out for a while. I think the last I actually went to see was the Spidey/Strange movie. I have no interest in subscribing to Disney+ and probably wouldn't watch the series they're pooping out (at least that seems to be the critical consensus) if they were on network tv for free. And now the movies seem to require previously seeing the series to (fully) understand what's going on?
I'm (still) out.
-OZ-
Footballguy
What do you mean by “done”?
We’ll continue to watch and probably in the first week in the theater. But the excitement isn’t there for any movie other than spider man freshman year and Deadpool 3. The Only shows that excite me are Loki 2 and DD.
Maybe you will but I have skipped several recent MCU movies in the theater altogether and I expect to skip more and more. The D+ series I really have no interest in anymore and will be canceling my D+ subscription.
Capella
Footballguy
I don’t remember what the last one was I watched but I hated it and said that’s enough. I do like the guardians quite a bit - surprised I didn’t go to the theater for that but I’ll watch it on Disney plus. I kinda doubt I ever watch any of their tv shows again. Maybe Loki, that was good. Zero interest in any of the others.
I’ll for sure see any Spider-Man movies but he’s Spider-Man. I get it’s in the MCU and all but that character stands alone.
It’s over for me as a thing to follow. It was a good 10 year run. It ended for me at endgame. Perfect conclusion.
I’ll for sure see any Spider-Man movies but he’s Spider-Man. I get it’s in the MCU and all but that character stands alone.
It’s over for me as a thing to follow. It was a good 10 year run. It ended for me at endgame. Perfect conclusion.
Yankee23Fan
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GotG3 is on D+. I might have to watch it again and try again because it might be my least favorite of all of them.
I’m actually enjoying it. It is refreshing because Eternals, Black Panther 2, and Quantum Mania have been 3 of the worst superhero movies I’ve ever seen (right there with Aquaman and Shazam 2).
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Angry Bovine
Really looking forward to Loki season 2 premiere tomorrow. The Marvel train has slowed WAY down, and it's probably a good thing. The product was getting diluted. The next movie to be released will be the Marvels and I'm not exactly pumped for that one.
B Maverick
Footballguy
S2 of Loki started off with a trip of an episode. I need a few of you other viewers to dissect it for me but it was fun. Looking forward to where this season takes us.
Hiddleston just looks like he loves the role of Loki.
Hiddleston just looks like he loves the role of Loki.
B Maverick
Footballguy
I actually am excited for this one. Looks like it will be a lot of fun. I did watch Ms Marvel even though it wasn't directed at me and bringing together the three of them has some potential. I hope Captain Marvel is given a bit more "fun and emotion" in her character and people will lay off some of the hate from the first movie. Also curious as to what happened between her and Monica.
Yankee23Fan
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Loki rocks
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Angry Bovine
So I need to watch Ms. Marvel. Most people have shared your sentiment, that it wasn't geared towards our demo but was a lot of fun.
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Angry Bovine
Yeah it is definitely a fun series and he does a tremendous job with it.
Loved the introduction of Ourobouros and Ke Huy Quan. I had no idea he was in the series and was just instantly delighted when I saw him. I think this is the dude who built everything for Kang. He wrote the entire TVA manual and understands how everything works inside of it, even creating "new tech" when Loki went to the past. Will be interesting to see how large a role he plays. I think the 2 main villains for this season will not be any of the variant Kangs (although they are sure to appear) but instead will be General Dox and Miss Minutes. Miss Minutes was included in the Marvel logo at the beginning of the credits, kind of hinting at a bigger role, and we saw at the end last year that she was no good. The name Dox to me is really interesting although I'm probably reading to much in it. When you hear about someone getting "doxxed", it is when they reveal secret details about others. Her name could have a tie into that (or perhaps she is working to prevent the release of important data). I thought it was interesting when she put her head with Hunter X5, almost like a mother and son, and she told him they have to figure out what happened at the end of time. Loki had not spoken of what he had done at that point and did not mention he went to the end of time, so she has some kind of knowledge. She could be an older variant of Sylvie because no one besides her knew what happened at the end of season 1.
Dox could also be like a paradox. She acknowledged that the timekeepers were fake, but wanted to continue on with their work anyway. Regardless, she is the aggressor and is trying to track down Sylvie, so she will be the main villain. I think Miss Minutes (though deactivated right now) will probably reappear and try to influence Dox her way. I was wondering who was calling Loki on the phone near the end of the episode, and was wondering if it was her trying to delay him, or if it was Loki or Sylvie calling him from the future. I imagine we will get some clarity on that in a later episode.
I thought it was interesting when Kang told Renslayer that she was a "Marvel". I wonder if that means she will be one of the Marvels in the upcoming movie. In the comics, Kang and Renslayer are lovers.
Dox could also be like a paradox. She acknowledged that the timekeepers were fake, but wanted to continue on with their work anyway. Regardless, she is the aggressor and is trying to track down Sylvie, so she will be the main villain. I think Miss Minutes (though deactivated right now) will probably reappear and try to influence Dox her way. I was wondering who was calling Loki on the phone near the end of the episode, and was wondering if it was her trying to delay him, or if it was Loki or Sylvie calling him from the future. I imagine we will get some clarity on that in a later episode.
I thought it was interesting when Kang told Renslayer that she was a "Marvel". I wonder if that means she will be one of the Marvels in the upcoming movie. In the comics, Kang and Renslayer are lovers.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Marvels is the first MCU movie since the first Iron man that my now 20yo son doesn’t want to see in the theater. We’ve made it a tradition. I’m hoping he changes his mind but I’m not nearly as excited as we were for the last few.
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Angry Bovine
Eternals was the one that my son (23) passed on. We've seen all the others. Neither of us are really jazzed up for The Marvels but I'll definitely see it opening weekend.
My kids and I recently finished watching all the MCU movies up to Endgame (first time for them, rewatches for me). We might just treat the series as done at this point.
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Angry Bovine
It was so well done I wouldn't blame you. They've had some really good entries after that (both Spiderman movies, GotG3) but it really did feel like a natural end point.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Chalk this up as disappointing but probably for the best and maybe a good sign that things will get better?
Daredevil: Born Again is back to square one as Marvel Studios have let go of the writers and directors in the midst of a massive Marvel Cinematic Universe shake-up. One of the most highly anticipated MCU shows in Phase 5 is Daredevil: Born Again, featuring Charlie Cox once again as the titular hero after having his own Netflix show for three seasons. Daredevil: Born Againseason 1 production has been on pause since the Writers Guild of America strike began in May, which recently came to an end.
However, despite a deal being worked out between the WGA and the AMPTP, Daredevil: Born Again has just run into its biggest creative problem yet, before it has even released officially into the MCU timeline. According to The Hollywood Reporter, Marvel Studios fired the main writers, Chris Ord and Matt Croman, as well as the directors for the rest of Daredevil: Born Again season 1. The trade reveals that this took place in late September after the footage for the first batch of episodes "was enough for Marvel executives, including chief Kevin Feige, to review the footage and come away with a clear-eyed assessment: The show wasn’t working." A new creative team is currently being searched for, while Marvel Studios is planning to "keep scenes and episodes, though other serialized elements will be injected."
Daredevil: Born Again is back to square one as Marvel Studios have let go of the writers and directors in the midst of a massive Marvel Cinematic Universe shake-up. One of the most highly anticipated MCU shows in Phase 5 is Daredevil: Born Again, featuring Charlie Cox once again as the titular hero after having his own Netflix show for three seasons. Daredevil: Born Againseason 1 production has been on pause since the Writers Guild of America strike began in May, which recently came to an end.
However, despite a deal being worked out between the WGA and the AMPTP, Daredevil: Born Again has just run into its biggest creative problem yet, before it has even released officially into the MCU timeline. According to The Hollywood Reporter, Marvel Studios fired the main writers, Chris Ord and Matt Croman, as well as the directors for the rest of Daredevil: Born Again season 1. The trade reveals that this took place in late September after the footage for the first batch of episodes "was enough for Marvel executives, including chief Kevin Feige, to review the footage and come away with a clear-eyed assessment: The show wasn’t working." A new creative team is currently being searched for, while Marvel Studios is planning to "keep scenes and episodes, though other serialized elements will be injected."
B Maverick
Footballguy
Maybe they should see if the team that did the Netflix show is available? Unless they were that team....
Hopefully this is a good thing and the show comes out better. Definitely one of my most anticipated shows along with any integration of Silver Surfer into the MCU.
Peak
Footballguy
They need to go back to how Netflix ran Daredevil. It had the right amount of darkness and brooding that you find in the comics. The goofy/comical version from She-Hulk needs to disappear. I could care less about the outfit he wears or the colors, but stay true to the character. He's a dark character that works city level problems in dark places normal heroes wouldn't think to go. It's not that hard, and there are a lot of reference books out there to use.
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Angry Bovine
Speaking of which, they were screwing up Daredevil. Some reports say it may be completely canceled. I hope they salvage some of it and get back to the heart of the series. From the article, they said it was a law procedural and he doesn't even get into costume until episode 4. Apparently huge issues in the Marvel TV arena:
Daredevil
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Footballguy
B Maverick
Footballguy
From those reports I am glad they are redoing it. Hope it doesn't get cancelled.
As for the ep 4 in costume thing, technically he wasn't "in costume" on the Netflix show until the end of S1. In this case was he going to be just a lawyer for 3 eps or was it similar and he was both but not in the DD costume?
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Angry Bovine
Well that's true, but it was his origin story. He was running around in a makeshift mask earlier than that. With an established character (even seeing the new suit in SheHulk), I think it would be pretty disappointing to see the inner workings of the courtroom for 3 full episodes and not him protecting the city. Also not sure if they were tying his new show to his appearance in SheHulk. I liked SheHulk but was disappointed in his portrayal in it. It was too light hearted and goofy for that character IMO. I absolutely loved the Netflix series and hope they can recapture some of that magic.
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Angry Bovine
Yep, really liked it. I love the interplay of Loki and Mobius. I love OB. I'm really happy with the series thus far.
B Maverick
Footballguy
For sure, you can't have 3 eps of Matt Murdock and no DD, with or without the suit. I loved the Netflix shows as well. And his appearance in Spider-Man was excellent. That's what they should build on. I didn't mind his appearance in SheHulk. Yes it was lighthearted and goofy, but you have to let characters (and actors) have a little fun once in awhile. Esp since this took him out of the darkness of Hell's Kitchen and put him into the brighter settings of SH. Hopefully the new series is closer to the Netflix version.
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
The Hamburgler in the McDonald's was a nice touch.Yep, really liked it. I love the interplay of Loki and Mobius. I love OB. I'm really happy with the series thus far.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Love the characters. No clue what the story is though.
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
We loved the opening music this week.
Basically the TVA is going to be destroyed because too many timeline branches were created after Sylvie killed He Who Remains at the end of time. Loki and Mobius are trying to find Miss Minutes to fix the TVA by hacking into the system and they do so by following Renslayer. Renslayer is on a mission from He Who Remains to give the TVA manual to one of his variants in the past... Victor Timely. Victor Timely is a hack showman who may or may not be able to save the TVA. Sylvie is trying to kill He Who Remains variants for reasons (I have no idea). Miss Minutes also has a big secret.
Thats the best I can do.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
-OZ-
Footballguy
An interesting idea. In the comics they apparently are romantically related. That dynamic was already crossed here.
I thought He Who Remains trapped all the variants and him being killed unleashed them all meaning Renslayer cant be a variant.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
I saw a trailer for The Marvels and my first impression is it looks absolutely terrible. I thought Captain Marvel was a pretty good movie but for me this is one of those trailers where I feel like I've seen enough and have no interest.
Loki is good so far. I sill don't like how they've sanitized the character of Loki but putting that aside the story is pretty good.
Loki is good so far. I sill don't like how they've sanitized the character of Loki but putting that aside the story is pretty good.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
I know nothing. No comics. Nothing. Take it for what it’s worthI thought He Who Remains trapped all the variants and him being killed unleashed them all meaning Renslayer cant be a variant.
Me neither. I'm going entirely by what was on the show.I know nothing. No comics. Nothing. Take it for what it’s worthI thought He Who Remains trapped all the variants and him being killed unleashed them all meaning Renslayer cant be a variant.
-OZ-
Footballguy
That’s why it could be an interesting twist. I don’t think he said they’re all killed, so it’s possible he simply “contained” a female variant he chose not to kill. Bring her into the TVA as that timeline got pruned.I thought He Who Remains trapped all the variants and him being killed unleashed them all meaning Renslayer cant be a variant.
I have no idea if they’d do that, but it’s explainable.
MTskibum
Footballguy
SWC
Bromigo
thats pretty awesome take that to the bank brohan
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Angry Bovine
That is awesome!
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Angry Bovine
Missed last week's episode so just watched back to back. Man, those were really good episodes. Next week is the last episode and I have no idea how it wraps up, but I really love what they've done with it. I don't want to go into too much detail in case some haven't watched it, but it was really good.
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
It occurred to me that the orange power box that squished people turned them into 2-D people. Think Miss Minutes came up with that?
Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
This show is weird. They've leaned into the nothing matters aspect of time travel. I can't imagine this ends well for the broader MCU.
As a self-contained story, it's been a fun ride and very well done! But what the fudge Marvel? How is Loki ever going to be Loki again? Ugh. First Hulk, now Loki. They're taking awesome characters and making them interesting - but permanently altered - characters. I don't like it. Get offa my lawn.
As a self-contained story, it's been a fun ride and very well done! But what the fudge Marvel? How is Loki ever going to be Loki again? Ugh. First Hulk, now Loki. They're taking awesome characters and making them interesting - but permanently altered - characters. I don't like it. Get offa my lawn.
ericttspikes
Footballguy
I’ve really enjoyed Loki and personally glad it had nothing to do with Thor or the Avengers. Not sure they can keep this storyline going past this season, but it has been a fun watch. Show looks great. Sylvie on the couch in the record store, listening to VU’s Oh! Sweet Nuthin’ as time unravels was an incredible audio/visual feast.
Loki has been too weird for me this season. I loathe time travel and multiverses but the first season was fascinating enough for me to overlook that. It really focused on Loki’s character development and the buddy cop angle with Owen Wilson’s character. This season has had little to none of that.
-OZ-
Footballguy
The mixed reviews are understandable. Even my 20yo, who was the biggest marvel fan I knew hasn’t liked it. But I’m enjoying it, a lot.
I think this all eventually (Not this season, probably not for years) ends with a sacred timeline or the timelines merging. Or everything is going to be throughly confusing to the point nothing matters.
I think this all eventually (Not this season, probably not for years) ends with a sacred timeline or the timelines merging. Or everything is going to be throughly confusing to the point nothing matters.
Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
Going to be?