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Marvel Contest of Champions - Time Killer (1 Viewer)

Okay so 15 are at rank 3+, I'd shoot for a goal of 21 champs (7 teams) at about 1350+ PI.

I'd call 3-4 of your rank 1s up to the big leagues along with Electro, so maybe Fist, Drax, Ultron, and Wolverine, just get one from each class based on personal preference.

 
BTW I don't really consider duped vs. unduped when leveling anymore. Just assume that eventually every one will be duped. Saves you from leveling Ronan when you should be leveling Drax :bag:

 
Updated mine. Maxxed my 3* Punisher (A), and working on 3* SupIM (A) and 3* UC (A). Also have working on ranking a 4* Iron Patriot.

 
TenTimes said:
guitarmonkiy said:
Polish Hammer said:
Thinking I just sell my 3* Hulkbuster and basically trade him in for a 4*. Can't possibly be worse than an unduped nonleveled Hulkbuster, right?
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All you'll miss out on is the ISO if you pull him again. It'd be a no brainer for me, I'd sell him in a second.
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Also miss out on the dupe shards, 55 or however many it is.
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I was thinking along the lines of just keep reselling, although a base 3* doesn't give as many shards.

 
Accidentally found out a little trick today while doing the AQ. I was playing with my duped Iron Man fighting Storm. My wife came into the office and started asking me questions so I paused the fight. As women tend to do, she didn't stop asking questions and talking and I forgot my game was paused. Now I can't confirm this for sure, but I THINK that while the game was paused, the timer (3:00 per fight) kept going. At some point out of the corner of my eye I noticed that the fight had automatically unpaused. Anyway, when the timer ended it declared Storm the winner, but my Iron Man was NOT knocked out.

So, I'm thinking that if you are fighting with IM or SIM (or maybe even Deadpool...though I am not sure how his regen works at the end of a fight) you can exploit this. If you get low enough on health during a fight that Arc Overload kicks in, fight just enough to get all the health regen you can, then pause it. If the timer runs out and declares the other combatant the winner but you aren't KO'd then you can go back and fight again with more health. Normally you only get 1 Arc Overload per fight but MAYBE this way you can get it multiple times for the same opponent. Am I describing this correctly? Does it make sense?

 
OK, so that did work. I went against Ultron with IM and tried it. Got health back to about 60% then paused it till time ran out. Went back to fight him and my health was at the same level it was at before the first fight started. I do still have one theory, though. Two actually, but one is already less likely:

1.) Less likely - if you pause it right when Ultron starts his self-repair, and let the time run out, I wonder if the damage you inflicted on him would stay upon restart or if you both get reset. When I did my fight against him I hadn't hit him at all so I couldn't tell.

2.) Sometimes you just have those fights where you get your ### handed to you quickly. If that started to happen, you can probably pause the fight, let the timer run out, and MAYBE you'd basically be reset to where your health was before the fight like happened with my IM. It's worth a try, right?

 
Now that I think about it, it makes sense to me that the timer would still run in AQ battles while paused.

Great find here. Probably not the way they intended it to work, nice little exploit for the Arc Reactor.

 
Okay so you don't get an additional arc reactor, but does pausing the game, letting the timer expire, and forfeiting the match cost you any health?

If not, that's our new evac button.

 
I'm thinking 4* 4/40 is more about the few hundred extra points you get for each arena battle (which is significant). But as far as questing goes, Fist isn't much better than he was at 3/30 except for a little bit better defense.

That's my very initial take away. Don't do those catalyst grinds and expect to be rewarded with an OP champ, it's not that much of an upgrade. Costs a LOT too, 4000 ISO per level up towards the end.

 
Thanks for letting us know Ten.

About the AQ, we really should set up pairs and define which pair takes which path. This way everybody knows what to do, and we can time things better so we have to wait less. Just hoping someone to take out a node, or 3 ppl taking the same path should not be happening.

And more communication if you know you cannot participate or will not be able to continue for several hours. Ppl can act on that

 
I think if we could set up a buddy system/pairs for AQ based on availability would be huge, that seems to be our biggest issue. Pairing based on classes would be secondary. When we get two guys going down the same path that aren't around during the day it's a big road block.

 
I may also need some tips for the AQ. My 4*'s barely last and I'll got 4-5 fights barely getting hit. Are you guys using boosts the entire time?

How about potions? I barely have any...should I be buying more?

 
I sometimes use boosts, but usually only towards the end if it looks like people are almost dead and we need a miracle. Potions fall into this same category. I probably get hit 3-5 times max per fight, and most fights I incur no damage. Dexterity is a HUGE help as you don't even take block damage and you can dodge Thor's hammer throw 100% of the time.

Absolutely do not buy potions, despite the "sale"

 
It's worth it, almost necessary to get very good at evading. That block damage adds up quickly. Practice against W.S. in Realm of Legends, evading his L1 is good practice on the timing.

 
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TenTimes said:
It's worth it, almost necessary to get very good at evading. That block damage adds up quickly. Practice against W.S. in Realm of Legends, evading his L1 is good practice on the timing.
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Rocket doesn't have good movement when evading. He's more of a tank IMO. Black Widow does just fine and she has almost 3k more HP but doesn't hit near as hard.

 
Can you Evade Dr Strange's entire L2 (If that is the one where he throws something then spins in the air and throws something else)? It seems like i can only evade the first part but then get hit with the second and third.

I will use boosts if I have more than 1 fight to do in a row, but first I will go and select my arena teams. once I am done with the AQ fights I can use the rest of the boost in the Arena.

 
UOFI_316 said:
Can you Evade Dr Strange's entire L2 (If that is the one where he throws something then spins in the air and throws something else)? It seems like i can only evade the first part but then get hit with the second and third.
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Not sure but I just faught Spiderman whose L1 works kinda the same way and while I was able to evade the first web he threw, it left me blocking and taking block damage for the rest of the hits and that last uppercut of his L1.

I guess finding someone with Strange as their top champ and dueling them 5 times would be a way to practice. Might have to start doing that..

 
TenTimes said:
UOFI_316 said:
Can you Evade Dr Strange's entire L2 (If that is the one where he throws something then spins in the air and throws something else)? It seems like i can only evade the first part but then get hit with the second and third.
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Not sure but I just faught Spiderman whose L1 works kinda the same way and while I was able to evade the first web he threw, it left me blocking and taking block damage for the rest of the hits and that last uppercut of his L1.

I guess finding someone with Strange as their top champ and dueling them 5 times would be a way to practice. Might have to start doing that..
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I do not think you can fully evade Strange's L2. You can evade the 1st cloud, but the others follow you. Same with Spidey. You can evade the 1st one or two webs, but then you need to block ASAP or you get owned. Awakened Daredevil is awesome against Spidey as he can evade the webs and has good perfect block chance.

 
Polish Hammer said:
Correction! My last post should say it did NOT work. It basically acted as a reset button.
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Do you both start back where you were? I knew the timer kept running, but figured you lost if you didn't end the fight in time. Interesting.

 
TenTimes said:
I'm thinking 4* 4/40 is more about the few hundred extra points you get for each arena battle (which is significant). But as far as questing goes, Fist isn't much better than he was at 3/30 except for a little bit better defense.

That's my very initial take away. Don't do those catalyst grinds and expect to be rewarded with an OP champ, it's not that much of an upgrade. Costs a LOT too, 4000 ISO per level up towards the end.
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I wonder if it varies between champs. Gotta imagine Strange will be great for this. It'll make him stronger, which I believe in turn increases how much health you regen with the purple thing, as I believe that's based on how much damage you give during it. After strange, im considering ranking The Vision to 4/40 next (unless I dupe a 4*) as I think it'll have a similar affect with his power steal/damage given.

 
woot said:
Thanks for letting us know Ten.

About the AQ, we really should set up pairs and define which pair takes which path. This way everybody knows what to do, and we can time things better so we have to wait less. Just hoping someone to take out a node, or 3 ppl taking the same path should not be happening.

And more communication if you know you cannot participate or will not be able to continue for several hours. Ppl can act on that
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I agree, and think we should take our 3 day break from AQs starting tomorrow to discuss this more. I'll never care if someone is busy for a day or two or three, but I wish people would let us know. It especially sucks when people join a group and never check back in, that's how we end up with a path with a buffer and no one left to take it.

As I said in the game, I'm going to start tracking participation, and unfortunately will have to start replacing people that are constantly lacking. The AQs are one of the few things that are keeping some people in the alliance, and it's important for us to stick with them.

 
Bigboy10182000 said:
I may also need some tips for the AQ. My 4*'s barely last and I'll got 4-5 fights barely getting hit. Are you guys using boosts the entire time?

How about potions? I barely have any...should I be buying more?
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This current map (map 3) is the first I've ever used boosts for an AQ. And I rarely ever use potions unless I slip up and get killed, or time is running down and I need to make sure we finish. The key is being patient and playing smart. I really don't even have any good masteries other than dexterity.

 
I feel so stupid. Took the path of all mutants, but thought the first one was mutant and then they switched to cosmic afterwards. Didn't even get hit once, and lost my Dr Strange to bleed damage. Tempted to use a revive on him and see if I can heal him back to full

 
Dickies said:
TenTimes said:
UOFI_316 said:
Can you Evade Dr Strange's entire L2 (If that is the one where he throws something then spins in the air and throws something else)? It seems like i can only evade the first part but then get hit with the second and third.
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Not sure but I just faught Spiderman whose L1 works kinda the same way and while I was able to evade the first web he threw, it left me blocking and taking block damage for the rest of the hits and that last uppercut of his L1.I guess finding someone with Strange as their top champ and dueling them 5 times would be a way to practice. Might have to start doing that..
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I do not think you can fully evade Strange's L2. You can evade the 1st cloud, but the others follow you. Same with Spidey. You can evade the 1st one or two webs, but then you need to block ASAP or you get owned. Awakened Daredevil is awesome against Spidey as he can evade the webs and has good perfect block chance.
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You can evade his L2, as well as other similar ones (Spider-Man, ultron, etc) although it is tough. You have to nail the timing. I've gotten pretty good at evading a lot of stuff, and I'm successful with those probably 1 out of 4 or 5.

 
Dickies said:
I feel so stupid. Took the path of all mutants, but thought the first one was mutant and then they switched to cosmic afterwards. Didn't even get hit once, and lost my Dr Strange to bleed damage. Tempted to use a revive on him and see if I can heal him back to full
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Mine was killed by that ridiculous colossus. Used a revive and a small health potion, then used a fight against drax to restore most health.

 
Bigboy10182000 said:
How much more HP?
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Awakened 4* 4/40 Iron Fist has 9748 health, attack is 966. Rank 4 has Precision V instead of IV (hadn't noticed that before).

I found an awakened 3/30 I.F. in global chat which had 8740 health, attack was 953. But different sets of masteries for each of these Fists make this not a very good comparison.

 
Excellent job everyone in the AQ. 750 4* shards is a nice reward. Felt bad that Witz was spending units, but a 3* crystal and 750 4* shards is equivalent to over 1300 units.

 
The 750 shards put me over. Duped my hulk. I feel indifferent. Probably would've rather had a new champ then dupe him but whatever. At least he makes a better avatar than gamora. Might just save all that class ISO for when I get strange to rank 4.

 
guitarmonkiy said:
The 750 shards put me over. Duped my hulk. I feel indifferent. Probably would've rather had a new champ then dupe him but whatever. At least he makes a better avatar than gamora. Might just save all that class ISO for when I get strange to rank 4.
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He's got a pretty awesome skill. Can't tell you the number of times I've been 1-shot by a Hulk with near zero health.

 
TenTimes said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
How much more HP?
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Awakened 4* 4/40 Iron Fist has 9748 health, attack is 966. Rank 4 has Precision V instead of IV (hadn't noticed that before). I found an awakened 3/30 I.F. in global chat which had 8740 health, attack was 953. But different sets of masteries for each of these Fists make this not a very good comparison.
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For comparison purposes, my awakened hulk at 3/30 is 9893 and 777.

 
Dickies said:
guitarmonkiy said:
The 750 shards put me over. Duped my hulk. I feel indifferent. Probably would've rather had a new champ then dupe him but whatever. At least he makes a better avatar than gamora. Might just save all that class ISO for when I get strange to rank 4.
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He's got a pretty awesome skill. Can't tell you the number of times I've been 1-shot by a Hulk with near zero health.
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I can't bring myself to take him to AQs because I'm not as good fighting with him as the regular sized guys (colossus and smaller). Maybe I'll practice a lot in ROL. If I can get it down he could be quite a strong tank I suppose.

 
guitarmonkiy said:
Dickies said:
guitarmonkiy said:
The 750 shards put me over. Duped my hulk. I feel indifferent. Probably would've rather had a new champ then dupe him but whatever. At least he makes a better avatar than gamora. Might just save all that class ISO for when I get strange to rank 4.
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He's got a pretty awesome skill. Can't tell you the number of times I've been 1-shot by a Hulk with near zero health.
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I can't bring myself to take him to AQs because I'm not as good fighting with him as the regular sized guys (colossus and smaller). Maybe I'll practice a lot in ROL. If I can get it down he could be quite a strong tank I suppose.
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Would be worth at least trying him out on the first map in the next AQ, see how he rolls.

 
Mr. Yuk said:
guitarmonkiy said:
Dickies said:
guitarmonkiy said:
The 750 shards put me over. Duped my hulk. I feel indifferent. Probably would've rather had a new champ then dupe him but whatever. At least he makes a better avatar than gamora. Might just save all that class ISO for when I get strange to rank 4.
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He's got a pretty awesome skill. Can't tell you the number of times I've been 1-shot by a Hulk with near zero health.
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I can't bring myself to take him to AQs because I'm not as good fighting with him as the regular sized guys (colossus and smaller). Maybe I'll practice a lot in ROL. If I can get it down he could be quite a strong tank I suppose.
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Would be worth at least trying him out on the first map in the next AQ, see how he rolls.
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Yeah I'll give it a whirl. Maybe pair him with strange and either the vision or colossus. I'm a little disappointed in vision so far to be honest.

 
As far as Alliance Quest brackets go, we're in the "training" bracket and got 750 4* shards for 179th. The next bracket up, "normal" pays out:

Rank 1 - T4 basic, 4* basic, 2 alphas, 3 Daily crystals (promotion)

Rank 2 - 4* basic, 1 alpha, 3 T3 basics, 3 lesser ascendant crystals (promotion)

Rank 3 - 4*basic, 1 alpha, 2 T3 basics, 2 lv2 team revives (promotion)

Rank 4-40 - 4* basic, 1 alpha, 2 lv1 team revives, 2 lv2 healths (promotion)

Rank 41-60 - 1 alpha, 2 lv1 team revives, 1 lv2 health, 150 4* shards

Rank 61-100 - 1 alpha, 1 lv1 team revive, 3 lv1 healths (demotion)
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I don't see a reason to try to move up, unless we stop needing 4* shards? :shrug:

 
Nor do I, but I would like us to get to the point where we are winning the featured 4* champ instead of shards.

 
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