Marvel Contest of Champions - Time Killer (2 Viewers)

[guitarmonkiy]

I don't know how you guys get to endless. I end up fighting a group of 4/40's or 5/50's with the damn regeneration from negative effects and I'm toast.

What team are you putting out there for that?

It was a maxed Iron Fist, maxed Black Panther, and and almost maxed Storm. All 3*

What was your streak? From around 14-18ish you'll wanna keep your PI upwards of 6k. I try to use only my 3/30 4* there and I always get the Kang/Thanos matchups. They're all 5/50, some awakened, but no masteries so they're still fairly easy to beat.

 

[Road Warriors]

I don't know how you guys get to endless. I end up fighting a group of 4/40's or 5/50's with the damn regeneration from negative effects and I'm toast.

The trick is to keep your champ level a bit lower until fight 14. Fights 7-8 with an even distribution under 4k will match you with 4800-5500 opponents, with typically easy AI.

Fights 9-13 use a 2 max 3* with one unranked 3*. This is one tricky area, where I've lost my bid for endless a few times. You have to win the 2 matchups, so look for at least one good class matchup. Also, be careful of the random game crash. You may want to reset the game before you start this stretch. These fights aren't too bad, but occasionally you hit a tough AI match.

Fights 14-15 use your best team. I have 2 over 6k, so that's what I use. I match up with about 10k teams, but these are Thanos / Kang teams without the best masteries, and typically without the tough AI. I usually find two or 3 class advantage matchup in these.

From 15 - 20, you'll start the easy matchups, but you have to keep your PL total high. The blueprint says over 6k until 20, but I played with that some during the cornucopia this week. I stated with my best teams, then on match 17 I dropped down to about 5700, then 5400 and finally 5100.

What I think happens is that there is a gap that grows / matchup in your streak between the team you put up and the opponent. Once you hit the max gap, you get a Thanos/Kang team ( before match 15 ) and an easy match ( with tougher AI ) after 15. As your streak grows, the max PL of the team you use can drop and still get the favorable matchup.

What I used to calculate the target totals was take the blueprint numbers ( 6k at 16, 4500 at 21 ), and linearly step down, so drop about 300 PL each match. It was only one time, but it gave me the easy matches from 16-20, as I hoped.

Full disclosure: I haven't hit endless this arena in two tries, Caught a stubborn L3 on match 15 in the first go, and slipped on an evade to storm's L2 in my second attempt at match 13. This isn't foolproof, and you have to be decent at the fighting aspect ( I'm *maybe* decent )

 

[nysfl2]

I don't know how you guys get to endless. I end up fighting a group of 4/40's or 5/50's with the damn regeneration from negative effects and I'm toast.

The trick is to keep your champ level a bit lower until fight 14. Fights 7-8 with an even distribution under 4k will match you with 4800-5500 opponents, with typically easy AI.

Fights 9-13 use a 2 max 3* with one unranked 3*. This is one tricky area, where I've lost my bid for endless a few times. You have to win the 2 matchups, so look for at least one good class matchup. Also, be careful of the random game crash. You may want to reset the game before you start this stretch. These fights aren't too bad, but occasionally you hit a tough AI match.

Fights 14-15 use your best team. I have 2 over 6k, so that's what I use. I match up with about 10k teams, but these are Thanos / Kang teams without the best masteries, and typically without the tough AI. I usually find two or 3 class advantage matchup in these.

From 15 - 20, you'll start the easy matchups, but you have to keep your PL total high. The blueprint says over 6k until 20, but I played with that some during the cornucopia this week. I stated with my best teams, then on match 17 I dropped down to about 5700, then 5400 and finally 5100.

What I think happens is that there is a gap that grows / matchup in your streak between the team you put up and the opponent. Once you hit the max gap, you get a Thanos/Kang team ( before match 15 ) and an easy match ( with tougher AI ) after 15. As your streak grows, the max PL of the team you use can drop and still get the favorable matchup.

What I used to calculate the target totals was take the blueprint numbers ( 6k at 16, 4500 at 21 ), and linearly step down, so drop about 300 PL each match. It was only one time, but it gave me the easy matches from 16-20, as I hoped.

Full disclosure: I haven't hit endless this arena in two tries, Caught a stubborn L3 on match 15 in the first go, and slipped on an evade to storm's L2 in my second attempt at match 13. This isn't foolproof, and you have to be decent at the fighting aspect ( I'm *maybe* decent )

I've found that using a team with Iron Fist and Black Panther in the 11-15 fight range is almost a certain loss, as you'll get matched up with a team with willpower and have essentially no chance. Use champs who don't apply status effects in that range.

 

[Road Warriors]

I don't know how you guys get to endless. I end up fighting a group of 4/40's or 5/50's with the damn regeneration from negative effects and I'm toast.

The trick is to keep your champ level a bit lower until fight 14. Fights 7-8 with an even distribution under 4k will match you with 4800-5500 opponents, with typically easy AI.

Fights 9-13 use a 2 max 3* with one unranked 3*. This is one tricky area, where I've lost my bid for endless a few times. You have to win the 2 matchups, so look for at least one good class matchup. Also, be careful of the random game crash. You may want to reset the game before you start this stretch. These fights aren't too bad, but occasionally you hit a tough AI match.

Fights 14-15 use your best team. I have 2 over 6k, so that's what I use. I match up with about 10k teams, but these are Thanos / Kang teams without the best masteries, and typically without the tough AI. I usually find two or 3 class advantage matchup in these.

From 15 - 20, you'll start the easy matchups, but you have to keep your PL total high. The blueprint says over 6k until 20, but I played with that some during the cornucopia this week. I stated with my best teams, then on match 17 I dropped down to about 5700, then 5400 and finally 5100.

What I think happens is that there is a gap that grows / matchup in your streak between the team you put up and the opponent. Once you hit the max gap, you get a Thanos/Kang team ( before match 15 ) and an easy match ( with tougher AI ) after 15. As your streak grows, the max PL of the team you use can drop and still get the favorable matchup.

What I used to calculate the target totals was take the blueprint numbers ( 6k at 16, 4500 at 21 ), and linearly step down, so drop about 300 PL each match. It was only one time, but it gave me the easy matches from 16-20, as I hoped.

Full disclosure: I haven't hit endless this arena in two tries, Caught a stubborn L3 on match 15 in the first go, and slipped on an evade to storm's L2 in my second attempt at match 13. This isn't foolproof, and you have to be decent at the fighting aspect ( I'm *maybe* decent )

I've found that using a team with Iron Fist and Black Panther in the 11-15 fight range is almost a certain loss, as you'll get matched up with a team with willpower and have essentially no chance. Use champs who don't apply status effects in that range.

Is that using a 2 strong one weak team, or all 3 strong? I use the IF/BP combo in 9-13 with a weak 3rd and get expected softer matchups.

 

[nysfl2]

I don't know how you guys get to endless. I end up fighting a group of 4/40's or 5/50's with the damn regeneration from negative effects and I'm toast.

The trick is to keep your champ level a bit lower until fight 14. Fights 7-8 with an even distribution under 4k will match you with 4800-5500 opponents, with typically easy AI.

Fights 9-13 use a 2 max 3* with one unranked 3*. This is one tricky area, where I've lost my bid for endless a few times. You have to win the 2 matchups, so look for at least one good class matchup. Also, be careful of the random game crash. You may want to reset the game before you start this stretch. These fights aren't too bad, but occasionally you hit a tough AI match.

Fights 14-15 use your best team. I have 2 over 6k, so that's what I use. I match up with about 10k teams, but these are Thanos / Kang teams without the best masteries, and typically without the tough AI. I usually find two or 3 class advantage matchup in these.

From 15 - 20, you'll start the easy matchups, but you have to keep your PL total high. The blueprint says over 6k until 20, but I played with that some during the cornucopia this week. I stated with my best teams, then on match 17 I dropped down to about 5700, then 5400 and finally 5100.

What I think happens is that there is a gap that grows / matchup in your streak between the team you put up and the opponent. Once you hit the max gap, you get a Thanos/Kang team ( before match 15 ) and an easy match ( with tougher AI ) after 15. As your streak grows, the max PL of the team you use can drop and still get the favorable matchup.

What I used to calculate the target totals was take the blueprint numbers ( 6k at 16, 4500 at 21 ), and linearly step down, so drop about 300 PL each match. It was only one time, but it gave me the easy matches from 16-20, as I hoped.

Full disclosure: I haven't hit endless this arena in two tries, Caught a stubborn L3 on match 15 in the first go, and slipped on an evade to storm's L2 in my second attempt at match 13. This isn't foolproof, and you have to be decent at the fighting aspect ( I'm *maybe* decent )

I've found that using a team with Iron Fist and Black Panther in the 11-15 fight range is almost a certain loss, as you'll get matched up with a team with willpower and have essentially no chance. Use champs who don't apply status effects in that range.

Is that using a 2 strong one weak team, or all 3 strong? I use the IF/BP combo in 9-13 with a weak 3rd and get expected softer matchups.

Normally three strong, but I've gotten hit with willpower teams even when sandbagging.

That mastery sucks in that it completely neuters several champions.

 

[Mr. Yuk]

POsting this here in case anyone can't access spreadsheet

Group Leaders

1. Mjolnir / Foos
2. Woot / Buckna
3. Tentimes / Beelz

Partners

1. Hulk / Macks666
2. Uofi / Thinman
3. Fourierseries/ Polish Hammer
4. Jweldy / Mryuk
5. Dickies / Peak
6. Casadilla / Batman
7. StBallah / Coolyoshi
8. Skyrat / Romeithius
9. Superwitz / Tikilous
10. Big E / Toddski
11. Thekhaz / Inviro

Floating till we get 30 - Aidanpizza

Spreadsheet

 

[nysfl2]

POsting this here in case anyone can't access spreadsheet

Group Leaders

1. Mjolnir / Foos
2. Woot / Buckna
3. Tentimes / Beelz

Partners

1. Hulk / Macks666
2. Uofi / Thinman
3. Fourierseries/ Polish Hammer
4. Jweldy / Mryuk
5. Dickies / Peak
6. Casadilla / Batman
7. StBallah / Coolyoshi
8. Skyrat / Romeithius
9. Superwitz / Tikilous
10. Big E / Toddski
11. Thekhaz / Inviro

Floating till we get 30 - Aidanpizza

proxy yuk

 

[Road Warriors]

POsting this here in case anyone can't access spreadsheet

Group Leaders

1. Mjolnir / Foos
2. Woot / Buckna
3. Tentimes / Beelz

Partners

1. Hulk / Macks666
2. Uofi / Thinman
3. Fourierseries/ Polish Hammer
4. Jweldy / Mryuk
5. Dickies / Peak
6. Casadilla / Batman
7. StBallah / Coolyoshi
8. Skyrat / Romeithius
9. Superwitz / Tikilous
10. Big E / Toddski
11. Thekhaz / Inviro

Floating till we get 30 - Aidanpizza

Spreadsheet

Are the leads doing a draft?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I updated the spreadsheet with my leveled up WW2 Cap

 

[Dickies]

Is there a reason behind the pairings? I haven't been on the computer much yesterday to update, but I just did. I was just curious because I thought the plan was to match people up so that the 3 strongest cover all classes, but the chart only allows people to list the strongest in each class, but not necessarily what they would use. For instance, on paper my Hulkbuster is my strongest, but I will roll with Capt Marvel, Dr Strange and either DD or Capt WWII. Hulkbuster will likely never see my lineup.

 

[Mr. Yuk]

Depending on how this goes, we could consider splitting a pair and have 3 guys to be a designated 'closer', 1 for each group. The closer could hang back and then help with the final path/nodes. The closers would have to be among the more active players I think.

 

[Foosball God]

I don't know how you guys get to endless. I end up fighting a group of 4/40's or 5/50's with the damn regeneration from negative effects and I'm toast.

What team are you putting out there for that?

It was a maxed Iron Fist, maxed Black Panther, and and almost maxed Storm. All 3*

What streak #?

When I got to streak like 16 I used my 3 that are almost maxed and was getting easy matchups

Don't remember exactly, but probably in the 12 - 14 range.

 

[Foosball God]

Thanks for the tips guys. I will try sandbagging a bit and using my 4* for 16 - 20

 

[Mr. Yuk]

Is there a reason behind the pairings? I haven't been on the computer much yesterday to update, but I just did. I was just curious because I thought the plan was to match people up so that the 3 strongest cover all classes, but the chart only allows people to list the strongest in each class, but not necessarily what they would use. For instance, on paper my Hulkbuster is my strongest, but I will roll with Capt Marvel, Dr Strange and either DD or Capt WWII. Hulkbuster will likely never see my lineup.

Yes, I used that but I gave priority to time availability. I also looked at who you were actually using in the last AQ. I do remember for you specifically that you weren't using HB so I don't think I factored him much.

There are several of you that have 4* champs in 5 or all 6 classes, so if you want to switch up your heroes at some point you can work it out directly with your partners. Covering all 6 class is ideal obviously but not 100% feasible. if at least 4-5 classes are covered between you and your partners we should be fine.

 

[Mr. Yuk]

Is there a reason behind the pairings? I haven't been on the computer much yesterday to update, but I just did. I was just curious because I thought the plan was to match people up so that the 3 strongest cover all classes, but the chart only allows people to list the strongest in each class, but not necessarily what they would use. For instance, on paper my Hulkbuster is my strongest, but I will roll with Capt Marvel, Dr Strange and either DD or Capt WWII. Hulkbuster will likely never see my lineup.

Yes, I used that but I gave priority to time availability. I also looked at who you were actually using in the last AQ. I do remember for you specifically that you weren't using HB so I don't think I factored him much.

There are several of you that have 4* champs in 5 or all 6 classes, so if you want to switch up your heroes at some point you can work it out directly with your partners. Covering all 6 class is ideal obviously but not 100% feasible. if at least 4-5 classes are covered between you and your partners we should be fine.

In fact, looking at it one reason I paired you with Peak is his only 4* is Iron Patriot (not maxed yet), so that would cover you for tech class.

 

[Dickies]

Cool, was just curious. Looks like you put a lot of thought/effort into it and I totally ignored it last map. I will be a good soldier and get in line now.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

We need to keep pushing this and get everyone to fill it out

If the AQ's are going to be our thing we should make sure we have the best masteries possible as well.

Also whats the best way to get potions and revives for the AQ's?

 

[Mr. Yuk]

Cool, was just curious. Looks like you put a lot of thought/effort into it and I totally ignored it last map. I will be a good soldier and get in line now.

We weren't doing it last map so no worries. It's really just an experiment at this point, hopefully it works and we can always tweak as necessary.

 

[Mr. Yuk]

We need to keep pushing this and get everyone to fill it out

If the AQ's are going to be our thing we should make sure we have the best masteries possible as well.

Also whats the best way to get potions and revives for the AQ's?

The best way to get them is probably winning AQs/ getting AQ crystals.

 

[guitarmonkiy]

POsting this here in case anyone can't access spreadsheet

Group Leaders

• Mjolnir / Foos
• Woot / Buckna
• Tentimes / Beelz

Partners

• Hulk / Macks666
• Uofi / Thinman
• Fourierseries/ Polish Hammer
• Jweldy / Mryuk
• Dickies / Peak
• Casadilla / Batman
• StBallah / Coolyoshi
• Skyrat / Romeithius
• Superwitz / Tikilous
• Big E / Toddski
• Thekhaz / Inviro

Floating till we get 30 - AidanpizzaSpreadsheet

Are the leads doing a draft?

Yes. With the 1.1 which I'll just take as leader, I select....

Doc!

Or Ten if doc still won't come back to his roots.

 

[guitarmonkiy]

Thanks for the tips guys. I will try sandbagging a bit and using my 4* for 16 - 20

Have you tried following the blueprint I posted a few pages back? I haven't missed getting to endless in weeks using it.

 

[Foosball God]

POsting this here in case anyone can't access spreadsheet

Group Leaders

• Mjolnir / Foos
• Woot / Buckna
• Tentimes / Beelz

Partners

• Hulk / Macks666
• Uofi / Thinman
• Fourierseries/ Polish Hammer
• Jweldy / Mryuk
• Dickies / Peak
• Casadilla / Batman
• StBallah / Coolyoshi
• Skyrat / Romeithius
• Superwitz / Tikilous
• Big E / Toddski
• Thekhaz / Inviro

Floating till we get 30 - AidanpizzaSpreadsheet

Are the leads doing a draft?

Yes. With the 1.1 which I'll just take as leader, I select....

Doc!

Or Ten if doc still won't come back to his roots.

Shouldn't we be collaborating on our pick? :norespect:

 

[Foosball God]

Thanks for the tips guys. I will try sandbagging a bit and using my 4* for 16 - 20

Have you tried following the blueprint I posted a few pages back? I haven't missed getting to endless in weeks using it.

Frankly, when I saw that post I didn't understand it, and didn't have the time to look at it in more depth.

 

[Dickies]

Thanks for the tips guys. I will try sandbagging a bit and using my 4* for 16 - 20

Have you tried following the blueprint I posted a few pages back? I haven't missed getting to endless in weeks using it.

I have problems with the "sandbagging" phase. I typically run into some hard matchups and don't always get class advantages. One loss and it's over

 

[guitarmonkiy]

POsting this here in case anyone can't access spreadsheet

Group Leaders

• Mjolnir / Foos
• Woot / Buckna
• Tentimes / Beelz

Partners

• Hulk / Macks666
• Uofi / Thinman
• Fourierseries/ Polish Hammer
• Jweldy / Mryuk
• Dickies / Peak
• Casadilla / Batman
• StBallah / Coolyoshi
• Skyrat / Romeithius
• Superwitz / Tikilous
• Big E / Toddski
• Thekhaz / Inviro

Floating till we get 30 - AidanpizzaSpreadsheet

Are the leads doing a draft?

Yes. With the 1.1 which I'll just take as leader, I select....Doc!

Or Ten if doc still won't come back to his roots.

Shouldn't we be collaborating on our pick? :norespect:

Do you not want doc? Have you seen his team?

 

[Foosball God]

POsting this here in case anyone can't access spreadsheet

Group Leaders

• Mjolnir / Foos
• Woot / Buckna
• Tentimes / Beelz

Partners

• Hulk / Macks666
• Uofi / Thinman
• Fourierseries/ Polish Hammer
• Jweldy / Mryuk
• Dickies / Peak
• Casadilla / Batman
• StBallah / Coolyoshi
• Skyrat / Romeithius
• Superwitz / Tikilous
• Big E / Toddski
• Thekhaz / Inviro

Floating till we get 30 - AidanpizzaSpreadsheet

Are the leads doing a draft?

Yes. With the 1.1 which I'll just take as leader, I select....Doc!

Or Ten if doc still won't come back to his roots.

Shouldn't we be collaborating on our pick? :norespect:

Do you not want doc? Have you seen his team?

I didn't say that I didn't agree. I said that you should have have at least consulted me!! /bitterwife

 

[guitarmonkiy]

Thanks for the tips guys. I will try sandbagging a bit and using my 4* for 16 - 20

Have you tried following the blueprint I posted a few pages back? I haven't missed getting to endless in weeks using it.

Frankly, when I saw that post I didn't understand it, and didn't have the time to look at it in more depth.

Look again and let me know what you're confused by. Going by memory, the part that I can see being confusing is how he worded the sandbagging phase.

 

[guitarmonkiy]

Thanks for the tips guys. I will try sandbagging a bit and using my 4* for 16 - 20

Have you tried following the blueprint I posted a few pages back? I haven't missed getting to endless in weeks using it.

I have problems with the "sandbagging" phase. I typically run into some hard matchups and don't always get class advantages. One loss and it's over

They can be tough for sure. Maybe use boosts if need be.

 

[guitarmonkiy]

POsting this here in case anyone can't access spreadsheet

Group Leaders

• Mjolnir / Foos
• Woot / Buckna
• Tentimes / Beelz

Partners

• Hulk / Macks666
• Uofi / Thinman
• Fourierseries/ Polish Hammer
• Jweldy / Mryuk
• Dickies / Peak
• Casadilla / Batman
• StBallah / Coolyoshi
• Skyrat / Romeithius
• Superwitz / Tikilous
• Big E / Toddski
• Thekhaz / Inviro

Floating till we get 30 - AidanpizzaSpreadsheet

Are the leads doing a draft?

Yes. With the 1.1 which I'll just take as leader, I select....Doc!

Or Ten if doc still won't come back to his roots.

Shouldn't we be collaborating on our pick? :norespect:

Do you not want doc? Have you seen his team?

I didn't say that I didn't agree. I said that you should have have at least consulted me!! /bitterwife

Lol right as I was reading that my wife came in and put on "Awkward". I'd rather her watch the housewives.

 

[guitarmonkiy]

Btw Foos, joined group 2 and took the skill path so you can have the class advantage.

 

[Buckna]

Thanks for the tips guys. I will try sandbagging a bit and using my 4* for 16 - 20

Have you tried following the blueprint I posted a few pages back? I haven't missed getting to endless in weeks using it.

I have problems with the "sandbagging" phase. I typically run into some hard matchups and don't always get class advantages. One loss and it's over

I've found the blueprint really helpful, but agree, this stretch is iffy. I don't like intentionally losing one match. Have gotten unlicky a few times and dropped a match to an aggressive AI or I just flat out made a mistake.

Had a funny match the other day starting like match 3 in a streak and fought some really low level guys with willpower/double edge. Watching them kill themselves on Recoil was funny.

 

[guitarmonkiy]

Thanks for the tips guys. I will try sandbagging a bit and using my 4* for 16 - 20

Have you tried following the blueprint I posted a few pages back? I haven't missed getting to endless in weeks using it.

I have problems with the "sandbagging" phase. I typically run into some hard matchups and don't always get class advantages. One loss and it's over

I've found the blueprint really helpful, but agree, this stretch is iffy. I don't like intentionally losing one match. Have gotten unlicky a few times and dropped a match to an aggressive AI or I just flat out made a mistake.Had a funny match the other day starting like match 3 in a streak and fought some really low level guys with willpower/double edge. Watching them kill themselves on Recoil was funny.

It's by no means a cakewalk but more manageable than fighting those mmxiv guys.

And recoil deaths are funny... Similar to when Black Bolt kills himself with his L2

 

[Foosball God]

Btw Foos, joined group 2 and took the skill path so you can have the class advantage.

I'll hop on in about an hour

 

[Dickies]

Thanks for the tips guys. I will try sandbagging a bit and using my 4* for 16 - 20

Have you tried following the blueprint I posted a few pages back? I haven't missed getting to endless in weeks using it.

I have problems with the "sandbagging" phase. I typically run into some hard matchups and don't always get class advantages. One loss and it's over

I've found the blueprint really helpful, but agree, this stretch is iffy. I don't like intentionally losing one match. Have gotten unlicky a few times and dropped a match to an aggressive AI or I just flat out made a mistake.

Had a funny match the other day starting like match 3 in a streak and fought some really low level guys with willpower/double edge. Watching them kill themselves on Recoil was funny.

Yea, it is definitely easier than what I was doing before.

 

[(HULK)]

I put my awakened 3/30 4*s in the spreadsheet. Don't be jealous.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I put my awakened 3/30 4*s in the spreadsheet. Don't be jealous.

How many 4*'s do you have?!?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Doc

Do you have any AQ tips for us?

Everyone's working on their top 3s and I think a majority of us are running 4* 3/30s, but it's actually getting harder to beat map 2 in the training bracket. Prestige is up to about 1750 now.

Are we supposed to be buying and using heals/revives to advance, or are we just not that good yet?

How do you guys choose your groupings?

 

[guitarmonkiy]

Doc

Do you have any AQ tips for us?

Everyone's working on their top 3s and I think a majority of us are running 4* 3/30s, but it's actually getting harder to beat map 2 in the training bracket. Prestige is up to about 1750 now.

Are we supposed to be buying and using heals/revives to advance, or are we just not that good yet?

How do you guys choose your groupings?

Also Doc, let me know when you're ready to leave those ISO8A guys and come back. I'll see if I can make some room

 

[nysfl2]

Doc

Do you have any AQ tips for us?

Everyone's working on their top 3s and I think a majority of us are running 4* 3/30s, but it's actually getting harder to beat map 2 in the training bracket. Prestige is up to about 1750 now.

Are we supposed to be buying and using heals/revives to advance, or are we just not that good yet?

How do you guys choose your groupings?

Also Doc, let me know when you're ready to leave those ISO8A guys and come back. I'll see if I can make some room

Updated the spreadsheet with my 4* Thor

Couldn't get him into today's quest because he was stuck in a moon knight quest at the time . . .

 

[(HULK)]

I put my awakened 3/30 4*s in the spreadsheet. Don't be jealous.

How many 4*'s do you have?!?

A lot at this point.

 

[Polish Hammer]

I don't know how you guys get to endless. I end up fighting a group of 4/40's or 5/50's with the damn regeneration from negative effects and I'm toast.

The trick is to keep your champ level a bit lower until fight 14. Fights 7-8 with an even distribution under 4k will match you with 4800-5500 opponents, with typically easy AI.

Fights 9-13 use a 2 max 3* with one unranked 3*. This is one tricky area, where I've lost my bid for endless a few times. You have to win the 2 matchups, so look for at least one good class matchup. Also, be careful of the random game crash. You may want to reset the game before you start this stretch. These fights aren't too bad, but occasionally you hit a tough AI match.

Fights 14-15 use your best team. I have 2 over 6k, so that's what I use. I match up with about 10k teams, but these are Thanos / Kang teams without the best masteries, and typically without the tough AI. I usually find two or 3 class advantage matchup in these.

From 15 - 20, you'll start the easy matchups, but you have to keep your PL total high. The blueprint says over 6k until 20, but I played with that some during the cornucopia this week. I stated with my best teams, then on match 17 I dropped down to about 5700, then 5400 and finally 5100.

What I think happens is that there is a gap that grows / matchup in your streak between the team you put up and the opponent. Once you hit the max gap, you get a Thanos/Kang team ( before match 15 ) and an easy match ( with tougher AI ) after 15. As your streak grows, the max PL of the team you use can drop and still get the favorable matchup.

What I used to calculate the target totals was take the blueprint numbers ( 6k at 16, 4500 at 21 ), and linearly step down, so drop about 300 PL each match. It was only one time, but it gave me the easy matches from 16-20, as I hoped.

Full disclosure: I haven't hit endless this arena in two tries, Caught a stubborn L3 on match 15 in the first go, and slipped on an evade to storm's L2 in my second attempt at match 13. This isn't foolproof, and you have to be decent at the fighting aspect ( I'm *maybe* decent )

I've found that using a team with Iron Fist and Black Panther in the 11-15 fight range is almost a certain loss, as you'll get matched up with a team with willpower and have essentially no chance. Use champs who don't apply status effects in that range.

Is that using a 2 strong one weak team, or all 3 strong? I use the IF/BP combo in 9-13 with a weak 3rd and get expected softer matchups.

Normally three strong, but I've gotten hit with willpower teams even when sandbagging.

That mastery sucks in that it completely neuters several champions.

OK, I'm at a loss here. Just followed this to the letter. Got to fight #14 and put in my top 3 guys. With boosts it was UC, Rocket, and Captain Marvel coming in around 5700. Got matched up with one of the MMXIV guys (Snottigrub). He rolled out a 4/40 duped Black Spidey, 5/50 duped Dr. Strange, and 5/50 duped Electro. Total for him was well over 14000.

Fight started and they had some boosts I've never fought against. Double Edge, Recoil and something else. Basically they were regenerating health like crazy the whole time. No idea how, but somehow I actually won all three matches (UC against Spidey somewhat easy, the Doc Strange one only b/c he didn't pop his Lvl 3 on me the last 15 seconds, and the Cap Marvel against Electro I had basically zero health and beat him with my red special - which should have killed me from the static charge thing).

Anyway, what else do I have to do to get the Kang/Thanos matches? Did I mess something up or does the PI have to be over 6000, no exceptions? What if I try another match or two with the sandbagger then go back to a full strong team?

 

[UOFI_316]

I believe for the endless PI ballpark ratings you have to have those pre-boost. I just finished my first team that is above 6000 so I haven't tried to reach endless yet.

Those masteries are what all the big boys go with now. Costs a crap load to get them though.

 

[Road Warriors]

I don't know how you guys get to endless. I end up fighting a group of 4/40's or 5/50's with the damn regeneration from negative effects and I'm toast.

The trick is to keep your champ level a bit lower until fight 14. Fights 7-8 with an even distribution under 4k will match you with 4800-5500 opponents, with typically easy AI.

Fights 9-13 use a 2 max 3* with one unranked 3*. This is one tricky area, where I've lost my bid for endless a few times. You have to win the 2 matchups, so look for at least one good class matchup. Also, be careful of the random game crash. You may want to reset the game before you start this stretch. These fights aren't too bad, but occasionally you hit a tough AI match.

Fights 14-15 use your best team. I have 2 over 6k, so that's what I use. I match up with about 10k teams, but these are Thanos / Kang teams without the best masteries, and typically without the tough AI. I usually find two or 3 class advantage matchup in these.

From 15 - 20, you'll start the easy matchups, but you have to keep your PL total high. The blueprint says over 6k until 20, but I played with that some during the cornucopia this week. I stated with my best teams, then on match 17 I dropped down to about 5700, then 5400 and finally 5100.

What I think happens is that there is a gap that grows / matchup in your streak between the team you put up and the opponent. Once you hit the max gap, you get a Thanos/Kang team ( before match 15 ) and an easy match ( with tougher AI ) after 15. As your streak grows, the max PL of the team you use can drop and still get the favorable matchup.

What I used to calculate the target totals was take the blueprint numbers ( 6k at 16, 4500 at 21 ), and linearly step down, so drop about 300 PL each match. It was only one time, but it gave me the easy matches from 16-20, as I hoped.

Full disclosure: I haven't hit endless this arena in two tries, Caught a stubborn L3 on match 15 in the first go, and slipped on an evade to storm's L2 in my second attempt at match 13. This isn't foolproof, and you have to be decent at the fighting aspect ( I'm *maybe* decent )

I've found that using a team with Iron Fist and Black Panther in the 11-15 fight range is almost a certain loss, as you'll get matched up with a team with willpower and have essentially no chance. Use champs who don't apply status effects in that range.

Is that using a 2 strong one weak team, or all 3 strong? I use the IF/BP combo in 9-13 with a weak 3rd and get expected softer matchups.

Normally three strong, but I've gotten hit with willpower teams even when sandbagging.

That mastery sucks in that it completely neuters several champions.

OK, I'm at a loss here. Just followed this to the letter. Got to fight #14 and put in my top 3 guys. With boosts it was UC, Rocket, and Captain Marvel coming in around 5700. Got matched up with one of the MMXIV guys (Snottigrub). He rolled out a 4/40 duped Black Spidey, 5/50 duped Dr. Strange, and 5/50 duped Electro. Total for him was well over 14000.

Fight started and they had some boosts I've never fought against. Double Edge, Recoil and something else. Basically they were regenerating health like crazy the whole time. No idea how, but somehow I actually won all three matches (UC against Spidey somewhat easy, the Doc Strange one only b/c he didn't pop his Lvl 3 on me the last 15 seconds, and the Cap Marvel against Electro I had basically zero health and beat him with my red special - which should have killed me from the static charge thing).

Anyway, what else do I have to do to get the Kang/Thanos matches? Did I mess something up or does the PI have to be over 6000, no exceptions? What if I try another match or two with the sandbagger then go back to a full strong team?

I do think your team base PL ( pre-boost ) needs to be over 6k to get the Kang/Thanos matches at 14-15.

 

[Mr. Yuk]

Let's try the teams again in the next AQ but spread out between groups better. If there's 5+ already in a group and your partner's not there, join a different group with fewer people. I think we can do it without having to assign groups if we're careful, but we could just assign groups if people would rather do it that way.

 

[Buckna]

Yes on the guide, I think all those numbers are pre-boost. Matchups in the game are based on pre-boost numbers I know that.

 

[Polish Hammer]

OK, so until I have at least 3 guys that are 4* and up to 2000 each, no real shot at the endless? Does boosts to PI based on synergies count? At least now I know.

 

[Foosball God]

I need another unique 4* so I can have 2 teams. I'm like 24 shards away.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

OK, so until I have at least 3 guys that are 4* and up to 2000 each, no real shot at the endless? Does boosts to PI based on synergies count? At least now I know.

Yes...and even then I had to use the same 3 from fights 14-18'ish until the opponents started saying easy. Right now I only have 4 teams of 1200+.

I found this to be VERY useful when trying to figure out who to match together.

 

[Foosball God]

OK, so until I have at least 3 guys that are 4* and up to 2000 each, no real shot at the endless? Does boosts to PI based on synergies count? At least now I know.

Yes...and even then I had to use the same 3 from fights 14-18'ish until the opponents started saying easy. Right now I only have 4 teams of 1200+.

I found this to be VERY useful when trying to figure out who to match together.

That's pretty cool

 

[Bigboy10182000]

OK, so until I have at least 3 guys that are 4* and up to 2000 each, no real shot at the endless? Does boosts to PI based on synergies count? At least now I know.

Yes...and even then I had to use the same 3 from fights 14-18'ish until the opponents started saying easy. Right now I only have 4 teams of 1200+.

I found this to be VERY useful when trying to figure out who to match together.

That's pretty cool

It helps a ton. I had a bunch of 2 and 3* but had no idea who would be good to pair up. This makes it very easy to find the synergy bonuses. You can even use it for teams of 3, 4 and 5.