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Marvin Harrison linked to shooting in Philly (1 Viewer)

Lt. Frank Vanore said the investigation of Tuesday's shooting was continuing. Harrison has not been arrested or charged."He was interviewed," Vanore said Friday. "Why he was interviewed, that is all part of the investigation. No one is a suspect."
Vanore also said that the shooting took place on the freeway, fwiw. Seems like the final story will be a bit different than the story that broke.
 
ESPN has a story on it now http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3378829

The source said the alleged victim came into the bar, Playmakers, around 5 p.m. and engaged in an argument with Harrison, who was at the bar. The victim then left the bar, heading to his car, with Harrison following. Gunfire broke out, the victim was hit in the hand, and a young girl was slightly injured by flying glass from a car that apparently was hit by a bullet.
The little girl did it. Details at 11.
 
I'm gonna assume innocent until proven on this one.
He is apparently guilty of owning the weapon involved.eta: by his own admission...
:shrug: Okay. But I'm choosing to believe Harrison isn't a guy to run down an alleyway shooting at another guy. Ne was either set up, or the gun was stolen, or something similar.
Why? Because he's got great hands and has great tippy-toe catch skills on the sideline?
No. Because he is an NFL promoted "good guy" and I like people to have heroes that don't turn out to be frauds.
so if Harrison "runs" down an alleyway shooting at a former convict, does this mean his knee is fully healed?
That's the silver lining I see on this cloudy situation.Last I heard he was limping around Chucky E. Cheeses. ... and now he's running down criminals dishing out vigilante justice. There's reason for optimism here.
 
There were a number of threads about the weirdness surrounding Harrison and his injury last year. I cant remember who but a guy with ties to the Colts said that Marvin wasnt that hurt last year but just didnt want to play. He had some tiff with Dungy. Sounds like he's wired pretty tight.

Did he get his ### kicked or did he do the ### kicking? I have seen it mentioned both ways in here.

 
Man I'm just sick about this, Marvin seemed like such a good guy, but definately one who's marched to his own beat. I hope things aren't what they seem.

 
Don't be surprised if when all this shakes out Ocho Ocho wasn't even at the scene of the shooting. That's not to say that his gun being used might not be an issue, but these reports smell fishy right now and I'm betting Marvin isn't directly involved.

 
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Don't be surprised if when all this shakes out Ocho Ocho wasn't even at the scene of the shooting. That's not to say that his gun being use might not be an issue, but these reports smell fishy right now and I'm betting Marvin isn't directly involved.
Okay, who wants to tell him?
 
I just heard on local Indy radio that Marvin's agent said that the report is erroneous. Marvin was not at the club that night and he is not a suspect.

Sorry, no link.

Just reporting what was said, I suspend my assumptions until the facts are on the table.

 
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I've never thought Harrison was a bad guy, but I've always hated the way he plays. Running out of bounds at the 1 instead of diving in for an easy score. Falling down instead of getting hit. Come to think of it, if his on-field personality matches his off-field, then maybe this isn't that much of a stretch. He's a #####.
Ummm...wat? :thumbup: :doh:
 
If it was really Marvin Harrison, how can he not catch the victim? Youd think he'd be able to run down any average joe.

If Harrison is guilty, I guess it tells you its the silent ones you have to worry about.

 
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Need more info before putting foot in mouth.

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty in this country? Sheesh.

 
Need more info before putting foot in mouth.Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty in this country? Sheesh.
Yep. I had to find a fair way of wording the thread title until we learn more.
I wasn't bashing your OP. Just some of the others' posts in here. It doesn't look good, but I just don't like passing judgement until we have more info. Especially in Harrison's case.
 
Way to early to assume he's guilty of something. I think there is quite a few scenarios that could have gone down in which Marvin didn't do anything wrong. He's never given a reason to not give him the benefit of the doubt so you just have to wait until more information comes out.

 
Here is your worst case scenario: guy gets rowdy at Marvin's bar, they exchange words and trade punches. Marvin pops him good a few times, so they guy who has already done time for killing someone heads to his car to get a gun. Marvin keeps a piece there for protection and exchanges shots after the guy shoots at him. Self defense.

 
well, i dont wanna pass judgment, but po-lice coming to your carwash for questioning and finding a weapon involved in a crime a few days ago soaking in a bucket doesnt sound good. I mean, even OJ at least buried the gloves.

Im a marvin fan, but I think its hard to believe he wasnt VERY closely involved in this, if not the shooter

One things for sure, marvin harrison IS gangsta...anyone else notice him as Avon Barksdale's double in that episode in season 2? I think so

 
I don't think he shot anybody but my opinion is that he was irresponsible with the ownership of his gun.

Again, my opinion is that this won't end up being much in terms of what happens to Marvin legally. Of course the media surrounding it is huge, but his record is clean and he's done a lot of charity work etc....around that area for a long time, which I think will count for a lot.

Obviously, if it turns out he actually shot someone, this all changes. My assumptions are based on him not being the shooter and someone got a hold of his gun and used it.

 
Harrison's been in the league for what, 13 years? He's been involved in how many incidents? Minimal at worst. He's getting the benefit of the doubt here with me. I dont care if some have good reason or any at all to think he's an #####. Arent we all? Id like to see some actual facts and accounts before throwing the guy under the bus.

 
I wonder who told police the gun was in the bucket. I wonder how they knew.

Also, the shooting did not occur outside the bar. LINK

Vanore told WCAU-TV the shooting occurred near 25th and Thompson streets, near a car wash owned by Harrison and about a half-mile from a bar also owned by Harrison.
 
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dotman said:
Here is your worst case scenario: guy gets rowdy at Marvin's bar, they exchange words and trade punches. Marvin pops him good a few times, so they guy who has already done time for killing someone heads to his car to get a gun. Marvin keeps a piece there for protection and exchanges shots after the guy shoots at him. Self defense.
That's what I'm thinking, too. But the fact that Marvin reportedly told the police that the gun never left his house - right before they find it in the bucket - makes it look worse.If the above scenario is the way it went down, Marvin should have come clean right off the bat. "Look, this guy has come into my bar before & caused problems. He did it again Tuesday, so I went ninja on him. He then appeared to be going for a gun so I fired at him. I was protecting myself". I doubt much would have happened to him (again, assuming what's above is true), but the fact that he reportedly lied to the cops doesn't look good.
 
Still a lot unknown on this story. So far the only real information that we "know" seems to be coming from WIP, not a source that I have a lot of trust in.

All I know, is that if the police really found the gun used in the shooting in a bucket at Harrison's car wash, then he's truly an idiot. That part of the story just seems totally ridiculous.

I think WIP better be pretty sure that they're right on this one, or they're finally going to see a lawsuit.

 
I'm gonna assume innocent until proven on this one.
radballs said:
Need more info before putting foot in mouth.Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty in this country? Sheesh.
:goodposting: I'll believe this when he's proven guilty. My cousin is friends with Marvin from high school. I've gotten several opportunities to hang out with him. Always been a very nice, polite guy. I'm by no means claiming to be buds with Marvin or know him very well, but from my own experiences and everything my cousin has told me, I'd be surprised if he's guilty. Last time I saw Marvin was last summer. I'm not likely to see him again anytime soon, but if I talk to my cousin and he's talked to Marvin, I'll let you guys know what he says.
 
I'm gonna assume innocent until proven on this one.
radballs said:
Need more info before putting foot in mouth.Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty in this country? Sheesh.
:yucky: I'll believe this when he's proven guilty. My cousin is friends with Marvin from high school. I've gotten several opportunities to hang out with him. Always been a very nice, polite guy. I'm by no means claiming to be buds with Marvin or know him very well, but from my own experiences and everything my cousin has told me, I'd be surprised if he's guilty. Last time I saw Marvin was last summer. I'm not likely to see him again anytime soon, but if I talk to my cousin and he's talked to Marvin, I'll let you guys know what he says.
Go stiff Marvin on your bar tab and then report back. :coffee:
 
I'm gonna assume innocent until proven on this one.
radballs said:
Need more info before putting foot in mouth.Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty in this country? Sheesh.
:yucky: I'll believe this when he's proven guilty. My cousin is friends with Marvin from high school. I've gotten several opportunities to hang out with him. Always been a very nice, polite guy. I'm by no means claiming to be buds with Marvin or know him very well, but from my own experiences and everything my cousin has told me, I'd be surprised if he's guilty. Last time I saw Marvin was last summer. I'm not likely to see him again anytime soon, but if I talk to my cousin and he's talked to Marvin, I'll let you guys know what he says.
Go stiff Marvin on your bar tab and then report back. :coffee:
:shrug:If you guys don't want any insider info, that's fine. Just tryin to help.
 
I'm gonna assume innocent until proven on this one.
radballs said:
Need more info before putting foot in mouth.

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty in this country? Sheesh.
:yucky: I'll believe this when he's proven guilty.

My cousin is friends with Marvin from high school. I've gotten several opportunities to hang out with him. Always been a very nice, polite guy. I'm by no means claiming to be buds with Marvin or know him very well, but from my own experiences and everything my cousin has told me, I'd be surprised if he's guilty.

Last time I saw Marvin was last summer. I'm not likely to see him again anytime soon, but if I talk to my cousin and he's talked to Marvin, I'll let you guys know what he says.
Go stiff Marvin on your bar tab and then report back. :coffee:
:shrug: If you guys don't want any insider info, that's fine. Just tryin to help.
I believe that I was in fact asking for insider info.
 
Still a lot unknown on this story. So far the only real information that we "know" seems to be coming from WIP, not a source that I have a lot of trust in.

All I know, is that if the police really found the gun used in the shooting in a bucket at Harrison's car wash, then he's truly an idiot. That part of the story just seems totally ridiculous.

I think WIP better be pretty sure that they're right on this one, or they're finally going to see a lawsuit.
Yes, anything you get from WIP has to be taken with a grain of salt to begin with. Those guys are idiots. I lived over there(N. Wilmington, DE) in their listening area for a year and a half, and couldn't believe some of what I heard coming from them.Another thing is, the location of Harrison's bar is in the northern sector of Philly, one of the worst parts of town and just a few blocks from a highly drug-infested area. Thus, the car wash. Just what kind of "sources" do you think were calling in to WIP to begin with?

Highly questionable to say the least.

 
Harrison's been in the league for what, 13 years? He's been involved in how many incidents? Minimal at worst. He's getting the benefit of the doubt here with me. I dont care if some have good reason or any at all to think he's an #####. Arent we all? Id like to see some actual facts and accounts before throwing the guy under the bus.
Agree. Most people here think I'm an ####### and I've never shot at anybody. Our opinions tend to get pretty heavy on these athelets w/ very little knowlege about them, just 'cause we get to see what they do in a sport for a few months out of the year. Even those opinions are pretty skewed if you think about it. I'd guess the majority of us have played football or some contact sport in our lives. Were you the same person on the field as you were off of it? Marvin has always seemed like a pretty cool cat on Sundays. That doesn't mean he's not a thug. T.O. has always behaved like a ##### on Sunday, but that doesn't mean that he really is. Most of us should be smart enough to keep our polarized opinions about somebody's private life to ourselves until we know more about the person and the situation being reported.As for on the field, give all the one-sided opinion you want. That's what this place is for. We are not auditioning to be prespective jurors (or to be excused).
 
I'm gonna assume innocent until proven on this one.
radballs said:
Need more info before putting foot in mouth.Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty in this country? Sheesh.
:thumbup: I'll believe this when he's proven guilty. My cousin is friends with Marvin from high school. I've gotten several opportunities to hang out with him. Always been a very nice, polite guy. I'm by no means claiming to be buds with Marvin or know him very well, but from my own experiences and everything my cousin has told me, I'd be surprised if he's guilty. Last time I saw Marvin was last summer. I'm not likely to see him again anytime soon, but if I talk to my cousin and he's talked to Marvin, I'll let you guys know what he says.
They are actually terrible posts. The Court of Public Opinion carries no such responsibility to assume innocence.
 
Further reports now indicate that, in all actuality, it's a garage and detail shop, not a car wash.

Which takes me back to my previous post(#195)...

Just what kind of "sources" do you think are offering up this information to WIP?

 
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Harrison's been in the league for what, 13 years? He's been involved in how many incidents? Minimal at worst. He's getting the benefit of the doubt here with me. I dont care if some have good reason or any at all to think he's an #####. Arent we all? Id like to see some actual facts and accounts before throwing the guy under the bus.
VERY TRUE... I apologize to everyone in this thread for my earlier comments. I shouldnt have jumped to anything. And I'm a Marvin fan (still) if he is innocent.
 

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