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[RBM]

Ill update as it goes....

He just schooled Francesa on Chris Long. Explained why he is a perfect fit at end in a 4-3. Said he will be the pick at 2 to the Rams because Carriker is more of a DT

Just said up until very recently he figured Dorsey at 3 was a lock, but now he is hearing its going to be Ryan.

Raiders pick will probably be for sale, and people interested in Dorsey will try. If it doesnt happen, Raiders wont pass on McFadden.

Then the Chiefs will be drooling over Dorsey.

No surprise here, thinks somebody will trade into the late 1st for Henne or Flacco. Thinks Brohm will go mid 2nd.

Doesnt have a wr with a legit 1st rd grade. Jordy Nelson soaring up boards. Limas Sweed a little soft for his size.

Thinks Brandon Albert will be the best OT from this class. Ryan Clady might be a little light.

Mayo is the fastest riser as of late, and will be off the board within the first 16 picks.

 

[massraider]

Wow, Dorsey at #4? hard to imagine.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Wow, Dorsey at #4? hard to imagine.

The Raiders have to snag him if he is.

 

[TLEF316]

Mike and the Mad Dog never know anything about college sports. It's really great when they do their picks and Dog's like "I'm picking Arkansas because i like the running back". He, of course, does not know the running back's name and wouldnt know him if he walked into the room with his jersey on.

 

[massraider]

Wow, Dorsey at #4? hard to imagine.

The Raiders have to snag him if he is.

That ####### Tommy Kelly contract makes me think they would listen to trade offers. I'd take Dorsey in a heartbeat, for sure. But they might think he and Kelly are the same position. Crap.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

No surprise here, thinks somebody will trade into the late 1st for Henne or Flacco. Thinks Brohm will go mid 2nd.

I think he has Flacco and Brohm mixed up.

 

[RBM]

Wow, Dorsey at #4? hard to imagine.

The Raiders have to snag him if he is.

He said he doesnt think the Raiders will pass on McFadden

 

[RBM]

No surprise here, thinks somebody will trade into the late 1st for Henne or Flacco. Thinks Brohm will go mid 2nd.

I think he has Flacco and Brohm mixed up.

I agree with you, but he doesnt like Brohm.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

No surprise here, thinks somebody will trade into the late 1st for Henne or Flacco. Thinks Brohm will go mid 2nd.

I think he has Flacco and Brohm mixed up.

I agree with you, but he doesnt like Brohm.

I'd like to ask him "What does Flacco have besides a big arm?"

 

[RBM]

No surprise here, thinks somebody will trade into the late 1st for Henne or Flacco. Thinks Brohm will go mid 2nd.

I think he has Flacco and Brohm mixed up.

I agree with you, but he doesnt like Brohm.

I'd like to ask him "What does Flacco have besides a big arm?"

All he said was he has the biggest "upside" Henne and Ryan can play right away. Brohm is strictly a west coast type.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

No surprise here, thinks somebody will trade into the late 1st for Henne or Flacco. Thinks Brohm will go mid 2nd.

I think he has Flacco and Brohm mixed up.

I agree with you, but he doesnt like Brohm.

I'd like to ask him "What does Flacco have besides a big arm?"

All he said was he has the biggest "upside" Henne and Ryan can play right away. Brohm is strictly a west coast type.

Please be available at #47!!

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Henne and Ryan can play right away. Brohm is strictly a west coast type.

Please be available at #47!!

 

[reg]

No surprise here, thinks somebody will trade into the late 1st for Henne or Flacco. Thinks Brohm will go mid 2nd.

I think he has Flacco and Brohm mixed up.

I agree with you, but he doesnt like Brohm.

I'd like to ask him "What does Flacco have besides a big arm?"

What else do you need-Kyle Boller

 

[reg]

Henne and Ryan can play right away. Brohm is strictly a west coast type.

Please be available at #47!!

Charch has been pretty adamant that the Vikes need to take him if he is there.

 

[RBM]

I guess the only really interesting thing here is him thinking that even with Dorsey available, the Falcons will go Ryan.

And I missed the f'n explanation

 

[Raider Nation]

Wendy Nix is at Chiefs' headquarters, and she just reported that KC will NOT be drafting Matt Ryan.

She indicated that they came right out and said as much, citing the lack of offensive pieces to put around him.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Wendy Nix is at Chiefs' headquarters, and she just reported that KC will NOT be drafting Matt Ryan.She indicated that they came right out and said as much, citing the lack of offensive pieces to put around him.

That's a stupid thing to come right out and say, what with the teams after them chomping at the bit to get him.

 

[massraider]

Wendy Nix is at Chiefs' headquarters, and she just reported that KC will NOT be drafting Matt Ryan.She indicated that they came right out and said as much, citing the lack of offensive pieces to put around him.

Nice. I think it's important to let Croyle have at least 4 or 5 years to get comfortable.

 

[Raider Nation]

Wendy Nix is at Chiefs' headquarters, and she just reported that KC will NOT be drafting Matt Ryan.She indicated that they came right out and said as much, citing the lack of offensive pieces to put around him.

That's a stupid thing to come right out and say, what with the teams after them chomping at the bit to get him.

Yep.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Doesnt have a wr with a legit 1st rd grade. Jordy Nelson soaring up boards. Limas Sweed a little soft for his size.Thinks Brandon Albert will be the best OT from this class. Ryan Clady might be a little light.Mayo is the fastest riser as of late, and will be off the board within the first 16 picks.

I agree with this section of the comments 100%. I have always though Clady was a little soft, light soft, whatever. He got whipped by a bunch of Hawaiians all day. Sweed is not physical. Jordy Nelson is now #5 on my board and I'm drooling a little. A agree Albert has a great chance to be better than Long. I rank them side by side #9 and 10 in the whole class. Long has always been a bit overrated. Mayo is a beast.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

All this talk of Jordy Nelson has me thinking he'd make a great Viking. Maybe he can knock Bobby Wade out of the lineup.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

All this talk of Jordy Nelson has me thinking he'd make a great Viking. Maybe he can knock Bobby Wade out of the lineup.

That's a name I wouldn't mind hearing called in the 2nd round either!

 

[SayWhat?]

All this talk of Jordy Nelson has me thinking he'd make a great Viking. Maybe he can knock Bobby Wade out of the lineup.

That's a name I wouldn't mind hearing called in the 2nd round either!

I hope the Vikings don't take a WR in the 2nd, unless that WR can help significantly as kick or punt returner. With Rice and Berrian on the outside and Wade in the slot, we don't have a pressing need for a Jordy Nelson type WR IMO.

 

[reg]

All this talk of Jordy Nelson has me thinking he'd make a great Viking. Maybe he can knock Bobby Wade out of the lineup.

That's a name I wouldn't mind hearing called in the 2nd round either!

I hope the Vikings don't take a WR in the 2nd, unless that WR can help significantly as kick or punt returner. With Rice and Berrian on the outside and Wade in the slot, we don't have a pressing need for a Jordy Nelson type WR IMO.

The returner position was already addressed this offseason.

 

[Chaos Commish]

With Rice and Berrian on the outside and Wade in the slot, we don't have a pressing need for a Jordy Nelson type WR IMO.

I hope I remember to revisit this post in a couple years. It might be funny. No offense.

 

[SayWhat?]

All this talk of Jordy Nelson has me thinking he'd make a great Viking. Maybe he can knock Bobby Wade out of the lineup.

That's a name I wouldn't mind hearing called in the 2nd round either!

I hope the Vikings don't take a WR in the 2nd, unless that WR can help significantly as kick or punt returner. With Rice and Berrian on the outside and Wade in the slot, we don't have a pressing need for a Jordy Nelson type WR IMO.

The returner position was already addressed this offseason.

Hicks? I guess if you want a guy that's no real threat to take one the distance. But I wouldn't mind seeing a Caldwell or Royal back there instead.

 

[SayWhat?]

With Rice and Berrian on the outside and Wade in the slot, we don't have a pressing need for a Jordy Nelson type WR IMO.

I hope I remember to revisit this post in a couple years. It might be funny. No offense.

That might definitely be a funny post, but taken in context WR isn't one of the more pressing needs on the Vikings at this point. Rice and Berrian are locked in as starters for a few years and Wade is sufficient to play the slot. The Vikings aren't the most loaded team at WR, but they now have enough talent that Jackson should have no excuse to not perform at a serviceable level.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

All this talk of Jordy Nelson has me thinking he'd make a great Viking. Maybe he can knock Bobby Wade out of the lineup.

That's a name I wouldn't mind hearing called in the 2nd round either!

I hope the Vikings don't take a WR in the 2nd, unless that WR can help significantly as kick or punt returner. With Rice and Berrian on the outside and Wade in the slot, we don't have a pressing need for a Jordy Nelson type WR IMO.

The returner position was already addressed this offseason.

Hicks? I guess if you want a guy that's no real threat to take one the distance. But I wouldn't mind seeing a Caldwell or Royal back there instead.

I wouldn't doubt it if they picked up a RB late that can return punts. Hicks can do kickoffs but isn't much of a punt return guy.I also think that Wade isn't quite as bad as people say...nothing great, but don't put him back on punt returns...can't stand the fair catches!!!

 

[Ministry of Pain]

No surprise here, thinks somebody will trade into the late 1st for Henne or Flacco. Thinks Brohm will go mid 2nd.

I think he has Flacco and Brohm mixed up.

I agree with you, but he doesnt like Brohm.

I'd like to ask him "What does Flacco have besides a big arm?"

A lot of intangibles. Threw 5 picks his whole Senior year vs 19 that Ryan threw...i think people need to do their homeword on Flacco. I believe teams will make a run at him in the late 1st, lots of teams need a guy like him. I believe Flacco could possibly start if pressed into action as long as he ahs a team around him...there are a few of those but Baltimore jumps to the top of my list. I would love to see Miami snag him but i doubt they will. They already overpaid for a guy that likely will not even be the best OT in this draft, sorry Dolfans and I'm one of them.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

A lot of intangibles. Threw 5 picks his whole Senior year vs 19 that Ryan threw...

In a completely different set of circumstances against a completely different skill level.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Wendy Nix is at Chiefs' headquarters, and she just reported that KC will NOT be drafting Matt Ryan.She indicated that they came right out and said as much, citing the lack of offensive pieces to put around him.

That's a stupid thing to come right out and say, what with the teams after them chomping at the bit to get him.

Yep.

I would agree unless they're in a position where they know that any one of two or three players who are overwhelmingly likely to be available to them when they pick are all equally desireable, and they also know that they can't trade down and expect those guys to be there. Examples would be that they were 100% indifferent between Gohlston, Dorsey and Long - they know that one of those guys will be there, and they also know that even trading down one or two spots means they can't count on them still being there. In other words, they're locked in and that's pretty much that.

 

[sheerterror]

Wendy Nix is at Chiefs' headquarters, and she just reported that KC will NOT be drafting Matt Ryan.She indicated that they came right out and said as much, citing the lack of offensive pieces to put around him.

That's a stupid thing to come right out and say, what with the teams after them chomping at the bit to get him.

Yep.

I would agree unless they're in a position where they know that any one of two or three players who are overwhelmingly likely to be available to them when they pick are all equally desireable, and they also know that they can't trade down and expect those guys to be there. Examples would be that they were 100% indifferent between Gohlston, Dorsey and Long - they know that one of those guys will be there, and they also know that even trading down one or two spots means they can't count on them still being there. In other words, they're locked in and that's pretty much that.

Not trying to be a #### here or get us too far off topic - but when did you learn how to write?Edit: Damn it! Never mind.

 

[awesomeness]

A lot of intangibles. Threw 5 picks his whole Senior year vs 19 that Ryan threw...

In a completely different set of circumstances against a completely different skill level.

The same could have been said for Tony Romo, Brian Westbrook, Jerry Rice. :(

 

[Andy Dufresne]

A lot of intangibles. Threw 5 picks his whole Senior year vs 19 that Ryan threw...

In a completely different set of circumstances against a completely different skill level.

The same could have been said for Tony Romo, Brian Westbrook, Jerry Rice. :(

Of course. I'm just saying using that stat as a basis for which is the better QB is invalid.Should teams just draft the guy with the best td/int ratio?

 

[Sweet Love]

Mike and the Mad Dog never know anything about college sports. It's really great when they do their picks and Dog's like "I'm picking Arkansas because i like the running back". He, of course, does not know the running back's name and wouldnt know him if he walked into the room with his jersey on.

I lived in Jersey/CT from 1994-1999 and listened to them religiously and came to the same conclusion. I am not an apologist, but it is hard to blame them considering there have been zero decent college programs in the area (even including New England area) forever (if you do not count the rise of Rutgers football over the past couple of years). Even though they are known nationally, they are just a "local" program and have dedicated their time/knowledge to the professional sports in the area.

 

[awesomeness]

A lot of intangibles. Threw 5 picks his whole Senior year vs 19 that Ryan threw...

In a completely different set of circumstances against a completely different skill level.

The same could have been said for Tony Romo, Brian Westbrook, Jerry Rice.

Of course. I'm just saying using that stat as a basis for which is the better QB is invalid.Should teams just draft the guy with the best td/int ratio?

I'm just saying don't use the fact that Flacco played div II as the sole reason not to like the guy.i agree with you on Matt Ryan though. I don't understand all the hate that Ryan gets on this board. All the haters bring up is the one stat that he threw 19 int. Of course they ignore the fact that he led a weak team to 11 wins, he threw for over 4500 yards and 30 TDs with the worst receiving corp of any QB prospect in this draft.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I'm just saying don't use the fact that Flacco played div II as the sole reason not to like the guy.

Not at all. I think he's a very good developmental QB. But talk that he's better than Ryan/Henne/Brohm, guys that started multiple years and/or put up good numbers at the D1 level, is a bit premature is all I'm saying.

i agree with you on Matt Ryan though. I don't understand all the hate that Ryan gets on this board. All the haters bring up is the one stat that he threw 19 int. Of course they ignore the fact that he led a weak team to 11 wins, he threw for over 4500 yards and 30 TDs with the worst receiving corp of any QB prospect in this draft.

Exactly.

 

[Cookiemonster]

Raiders pick will probably be for sale, and people interested in Dorsey will try. If it doesnt happen, Raiders wont pass on McFadden.

If the Raiders pick McFadden w/ Dorsey on the board, I may just crap, right where I am sitting. Then move out of California.

 

[TLEF316]

Mike and the Mad Dog never know anything about college sports. It's really great when they do their picks and Dog's like "I'm picking Arkansas because i like the running back". He, of course, does not know the running back's name and wouldnt know him if he walked into the room with his jersey on.

I lived in Jersey/CT from 1994-1999 and listened to them religiously and came to the same conclusion. I am not an apologist, but it is hard to blame them considering there have been zero decent college programs in the area (even including New England area) forever (if you do not count the rise of Rutgers football over the past couple of years). Even though they are known nationally, they are just a "local" program and have dedicated their time/knowledge to the professional sports in the area.

If your only responsibilty is to know sports and be able to discuss it in an entertaining way, you need to be able to remember the names of the important participants. (especially if you are making "picks", which generally requires in-depth knowledge) 3 years ago, Mike spent 2 hours blabbering about Notre Dame needed to hire Irving Minor(Who now is apparently the head coach at Florida) to replace Ty Willingham. That, to me, is a lack of professionalism. That just screams "LOOK AT ME!! I'M POPULAR AND LOCKED INTO A HUGE MARKET SO I DONT NEED TO KNOW ANYBODY'S NAME"

 

[RBM]

Mike and the Mad Dog never know anything about college sports. It's really great when they do their picks and Dog's like "I'm picking Arkansas because i like the running back". He, of course, does not know the running back's name and wouldnt know him if he walked into the room with his jersey on.

I lived in Jersey/CT from 1994-1999 and listened to them religiously and came to the same conclusion. I am not an apologist, but it is hard to blame them considering there have been zero decent college programs in the area (even including New England area) forever (if you do not count the rise of Rutgers football over the past couple of years). Even though they are known nationally, they are just a "local" program and have dedicated their time/knowledge to the professional sports in the area.

If your only responsibilty is to know sports and be able to discuss it in an entertaining way, you need to be able to remember the names of the important participants. (especially if you are making "picks", which generally requires in-depth knowledge) 3 years ago, Mike spent 2 hours blabbering about Notre Dame needed to hire Irving Minor(Who now is apparently the head coach at Florida) to replace Ty Willingham. That, to me, is a lack of professionalism. That just screams "LOOK AT ME!! I'M POPULAR AND LOCKED INTO A HUGE MARKET SO I DONT NEED TO KNOW ANYBODY'S NAME"

Oh they do it all the timeI think Mike said Antwan Boldin today

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Thinks Brandon Albert will be the best OT from this class.

Better than the #1 pick?

 

[Marc Levin]

I would love to see Miami snag him but i doubt they will.

I was going to post that I didn't think Brohm would fall past Miami at 32 overall. I would consider this a good draft if they emerged with Long and Brohm.

 

[RBM]

Thinks Brandon Albert will be the best OT from this class.

Better than the #1 pick?

Thats what he said. Thinks Albert can be a legit, big time LT. Thinks Long will earn his pro bowls playing RT

 

[Marc Levin]

Thinks Brandon Albert will be the best OT from this class.

Better than the #1 pick?

FWIW on this subject, I think Albert has a great chance of being "better" than Long (whatever that means and however that is measured), but even if so, what exactly was Miami supposed to do?They were in love with Long, trading down to a spot where Albert was a reasonable choice was apparently not an option, and they didn't want to wait until the 32nd overall to address LT.

 

[Marc Levin]

Thinks Long will earn his pro bowls playing RT

Well, that will not happen. Parcells will get him to play LT or will run him from the team.Carey can't man the LT spot forever. He makes the line better when he can play LG or RT so it is imperative they get someone at LT who can play it at least as well as Wade Smith did a few years ago - and I think Long can play LT as well as Wade Smith did. That's not Pro Bowl level - just well enough to be better than Carey and free Carey to play a better spot.

 

[Raider Nation]

Wendy Nix is at Chiefs' headquarters, and she just reported that KC will NOT be drafting Matt Ryan.She indicated that they came right out and said as much, citing the lack of offensive pieces to put around him.

That's a stupid thing to come right out and say, what with the teams after them chomping at the bit to get him.

Yep.

I would agree unless they're in a position where they know that any one of two or three players who are overwhelmingly likely to be available to them when they pick are all equally desireable, and they also know that they can't trade down and expect those guys to be there.

There's always the possibility this is Carl Peterson just trying to be clever, hoping that a statement like that will make Atlanta think twice about taking Ryan, and then he falls to the Chiefs. I can't figure out what good comes from announcing to the world that he is out of the running from being considered at 1.05.

 

[Cookiemonster]

Wendy Nix is at Chiefs' headquarters, and she just reported that KC will NOT be drafting Matt Ryan.She indicated that they came right out and said as much, citing the lack of offensive pieces to put around him.

That's a stupid thing to come right out and say, what with the teams after them chomping at the bit to get him.

Yep.

I would agree unless they're in a position where they know that any one of two or three players who are overwhelmingly likely to be available to them when they pick are all equally desireable, and they also know that they can't trade down and expect those guys to be there.

There's always the possibility this is Carl Peterson just trying to be clever, hoping that a statement like that will make Atlanta think twice about taking Ryan, and then he falls to the Chiefs. I can't figure out what good comes from announcing to the world that he is out of the running from being considered at 1.05.

It's all chess, dude. You can't believe the truth when it's right in your face, and you have to believe every lie you hear.

 

[Raider Nation]

Raiders pick will probably be for sale, and people interested in Dorsey will try. If it doesnt happen, Raiders wont pass on McFadden.

If the Raiders pick McFadden w/ Dorsey on the board, I may just crap, right where I am sitting. Then move out of California.

First of all, I'm finding it increasingly unlikely Dorsey will be available at 1.04.Pat Kirwan just said that if Al Davis sees Marcus Allen in McFadden, and is convinced he is that type of impact player, then the Raiders should just take him and be done with it. Personally, I would want DMc over Vernon. I would not pass up Long for McFadden, however.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

All this talk of Jordy Nelson has me thinking he'd make a great Viking. Maybe he can knock Bobby Wade out of the lineup.

That's a name I wouldn't mind hearing called in the 2nd round either!

I hope the Vikings don't take a WR in the 2nd, unless that WR can help significantly as kick or punt returner. With Rice and Berrian on the outside and Wade in the slot, we don't have a pressing need for a Jordy Nelson type WR IMO.

Totally agree.WR on the first day makes little sense for Minn.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Raiders pick will probably be for sale, and people interested in Dorsey will try. If it doesnt happen, Raiders wont pass on McFadden.

If the Raiders pick McFadden w/ Dorsey on the board, I may just crap, right where I am sitting. Then move out of California.

First of all, I'm finding it increasingly unlikely Dorsey will be available at 1.04.Pat Kirwan just said that if Al Davis sees Marcus Allen in McFadden, and is convinced he is that type of impact player, then the Raiders should just take him and be done with it. Personally, I would want DMc over Vernon. I would not pass up Long for McFadden, however.

There are 2 leadpipe locks in this draft.#1. Jake Long#4 Darren McFadden