McGinest to Browns (1 Viewer)

[2112]

3 yr - $12million

thanks to wadegarrett for this LINK

 

[wadegarrett]

 

[saintfool]

3 years? really? good player but $4 million a year for a 34 year old DE/LB is a tad much.

 

[acefootball]

3 years? really? good player but $4 million a year for a 34 year old DE is a tad much.

Some players bring more than just physical ability. Great signing by the Browns IMO.

 

[Kosar]

3 years? really? good player but $4 million a year for a 34 year old DE is a tad much.

Some players bring more than just physical ability. Great signing by the Browns IMO.

 

[wadegarrett]

3 years? really? good player but $4 million a year for a 34 year old DE is a tad much.

Some players bring more than just physical ability. Great signing by the Browns IMO.

 

[diesel7982]

3 years? really? good player but $4 million a year for a 34 year old DE/LB is a tad much.

Are you suggesting hes going to get $4mil base per year? Ill bet he'll never see half that money.

 

[wadegarrett]

Link

 

[2112]

3 years? really? good player but $4 million a year for a 34 year old DE/LB is a tad much.

Are you suggesting hes going to get $4mil base per year? Ill bet he'll never see half that money.

contacts are always about the details....

McGinest, who visited with Browns coache and team officials on Tuesday as his first stop in free agency, will sign a three-year, $12 million contract that includes $6 million in bonuses and guarantees.

 

[saintfool]

3 years? really? good player but $4 million a year for a 34 year old DE is a tad much.

Some players bring more than just physical ability. Great signing by the Browns IMO.

i don't disagree that he is a stand up guy with tons of experience and leadership. he's replacing chaun thompson, i gather? if not, who is he replacing? davis leave?

 

[Bankerguy]

Mass suicides are happening right now in the Cowboys site I frequent (Under a different username).

Nice signing Cleveland!!!

 

[Jason Wood]

Solid move. He's essentially a known commodity in Romeo's defensive scheme and brings a ton of onfield and off the field leadership.

 

[wadegarrett]

3 years? really? good player but $4 million a year for a 34 year old DE is a tad much.

Some players bring more than just physical ability. Great signing by the Browns IMO.

i don't disagree that he is a stand up guy with tons of experience and leadership. he's replacing chaun thompson, i gather? if not, who is he replacing? davis leave?

Replacing Ben Taylor which is a HUGE upgrade.

 

[saintfool]

3 years? really? good player but $4 million a year for a 34 year old DE is a tad much.

Some players bring more than just physical ability. Great signing by the Browns IMO.

i don't disagree that he is a stand up guy with tons of experience and leadership. he's replacing chaun thompson, i gather? if not, who is he replacing? davis leave?

Replacing Ben Taylor which is a HUGE upgrade.

no doubt. i think willie is an outstanding player but wonder how much gas he has left in the tank.

 

[s_ezy]

 

[wadegarrett]

3 years? really? good player but $4 million a year for a 34 year old DE is a tad much.

Some players bring more than just physical ability. Great signing by the Browns IMO.

i don't disagree that he is a stand up guy with tons of experience and leadership. he's replacing chaun thompson, i gather? if not, who is he replacing? davis leave?

Replacing Ben Taylor which is a HUGE upgrade.

no doubt. i think willie is an outstanding player but wonder how much gas he has left in the tank.

Hopefully 3 years worth.

 

[Fallerjw]

3 years? really? good player but $4 million a year for a 34 year old DE is a tad much.

Some players bring more than just physical ability. Great signing by the Browns IMO.

i don't disagree that he is a stand up guy with tons of experience and leadership. he's replacing chaun thompson, i gather? if not, who is he replacing? davis leave?

Replacing Ben Taylor which is a HUGE upgrade.

OLB was possibly the biggest need of the team, followed by NT. Now they have short term answers at both positions. It would be nice to get some solid rookies in the draft to learn from these guys.

 

[Liquid Tension]

Solid move. He's essentially a known commodity in Romeo's defensive scheme and brings a ton of onfield and off the field leadership.

Solid player, but I don't see the paying a 34 year old this much and you are not ready to advance in the playoffs. Cleveland has set themselves up but I see it more in a year or 2 (granted it happens quickly in the NFL now) and McGinnest seems more of a last piece of the puzzle guy.I am not saying it is a bad signing, but I don't see it as real good either because I still think Cleveland is more than a year away.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

McGinest, who visited with Browns coache and team officials on Tuesday as his first stop in free agency, will sign a three-year, $12 million contract that includes $6 million in bonuses and guarantees.

How much are bonuses and how much are guarantees? A $5M roster bonus due in March of 2008 is not likely to be paid.

 

[Beaumont]

I am puzzled ... Ben Taylor was an ILB. Wont Willie replace Kenard Lang/Matt Stewart?

Aren't you still looking for an ILB?

Stewart/Davis/Taylor/Thompson ... to Willie/Davis/?/Thompson

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

I hate Willie McGinist and I hate the Browns.

He fits in perfectly. Nice signing.

 

[Browns Rule!]

Solid move. He's essentially a known commodity in Romeo's defensive scheme and brings a ton of onfield and off the field leadership.

Solid player, but I don't see the paying a 34 year old this much and you are not ready to advance in the playoffs. Cleveland has set themselves up but I see it more in a year or 2 (granted it happens quickly in the NFL now) and McGinnest seems more of a last piece of the puzzle guy.I am not saying it is a bad signing, but I don't see it as real good either because I still think Cleveland is more than a year away.

I would disagree here. Last year, we went 6-10. This year, we now have 6 big free agent signings, we get Winslow back, Braylon Edwards back, and a year of experience for Charlie Frye, an entire year of the 3-4 defense under our belt, and rookies in the draft (we didn't really lose any veterans). We should easily be 8-8 if we can stay healthy, and very possibly 10-6 with a good shot at the playoffs.

 

[TheLaw]

Solid move. He's essentially a known commodity in Romeo's defensive scheme and brings a ton of onfield and off the field leadership.

Solid player, but I don't see the paying a 34 year old this much and you are not ready to advance in the playoffs. Cleveland has set themselves up but I see it more in a year or 2 (granted it happens quickly in the NFL now) and McGinnest seems more of a last piece of the puzzle guy.I am not saying it is a bad signing, but I don't see it as real good either because I still think Cleveland is more than a year away.

I would disagree here. Last year, we went 6-10. This year, we now have 6 big free agent signings, we get Winslow back, Braylon Edwards back, and a year of experience for Charlie Frye, an entire year of the 3-4 defense under our belt, and rookies in the draft (we didn't really lose any veterans). We should easily be 8-8 if we can stay healthy, and very possibly 10-6 with a good shot at the playoffs.

So who doesnt make the playoffs now, Bengals or Steelers? Ravens will not improve?

 

[Big Score]

I am really, really liking the Browns moves since Savage & Crennell came aboard.

Amazing what a good GM & Coach can do for a Franchise.

 

[Kit Fisto]

Good signing for the Browns/good non-signing for the Pats.

The Browns are a team on the rise fellas. Like I said in another thread, now's the time to start collecting Browns for fantasy. All things are cyclical, and now it's the Browns turn. It's already too late to make a move on Cardinals. 6 years ago, who wanted Bengals and Seahawks?

Crennel is making all the right moves. I'm very interested to watch his first draft.

 

[Browns Rule!]

Solid move. He's essentially a known commodity in Romeo's defensive scheme and brings a ton of onfield and off the field leadership.

Solid player, but I don't see the paying a 34 year old this much and you are not ready to advance in the playoffs. Cleveland has set themselves up but I see it more in a year or 2 (granted it happens quickly in the NFL now) and McGinnest seems more of a last piece of the puzzle guy.I am not saying it is a bad signing, but I don't see it as real good either because I still think Cleveland is more than a year away.

I would disagree here. Last year, we went 6-10. This year, we now have 6 big free agent signings, we get Winslow back, Braylon Edwards back, and a year of experience for Charlie Frye, an entire year of the 3-4 defense under our belt, and rookies in the draft (we didn't really lose any veterans). We should easily be 8-8 if we can stay healthy, and very possibly 10-6 with a good shot at the playoffs.

So who doesnt make the playoffs now, Bengals or Steelers? Ravens will not improve?

I don't really know, but I would think both could be in for letdown years. I'm not guaranteeing playoffs, I just think its more than a little possible. I think the Bengals will really struggle if Palmer doesn't come back strong, and could see them sinking again, and I've always thought the Steelers were overrated. If I were predicting, I would think the Browns would be the only team from the AFC North to make the playoffs.

 

[Mr. Pink]

*Patsfan*

 

[Kit Fisto]

*Patsfan*

They all leave man, they all leave...

 

[dpeease]

3 years? really? good player but $4 million a year for a 34 year old DE is a tad much.

Some players bring more than just physical ability. Great signing by the Browns IMO.

i don't disagree that he is a stand up guy with tons of experience and leadership. he's replacing chaun thompson, i gather? if not, who is he replacing? davis leave?

Replacing Ben Taylor which is a HUGE upgrade.

no doubt. i think willie is an outstanding player but wonder how much gas he has left in the tank.

He always seems to find a little something during the playoffs. Great football player although I wish it was another team who signed him.

 

[MLBrandow]

I am puzzled ... Ben Taylor was an ILB. Wont Willie replace Kenard Lang/Matt Stewart?

Aren't you still looking for an ILB?

Stewart/Davis/Taylor/Thompson ... to Willie/Davis/?/Thompson

Roye/Washington/Wroten?McGinest/Davis/Taylor/Thompson

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

I've always thought the Steelers were overrated. If I were predicting, I would think the Browns would be the only team from the AFC North to make the playoffs.

Shine on, you crazy diamond.

 

[Ridgelake]

Willie got $6 mil in guarantees...... So half of his $12 mil is solid.

 

[top dog]

The Browns will draft someone to fill that role in the future. Willie will be a great stop-gap in that position and will be a great mentor to have.

 

[Bri]

I am really, really liking the Browns moves since Savage & Crennell came aboard.

Amazing what a good GM & Coach can do for a Franchise.

they seem to be walking the line perfectly between urgency and patience

 

[Godsbrother]

If I were predicting, I would think the Browns would be the only team from the AFC North to make the playoffs.

I like the moves but now you are just being silly, especially with Charlie Frye at QB.

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

Deja vu all over again. Seems like just yesterday Parcells understudy Bill Belichick brought Pepper Johnson to Cleveland to change the team's attitude.

 

[bostonfred]

Thanks for everything Willie. Glad to see you'll be playing for Romeo. We'll be cheering for you.

 

[wadegarrett]

If I were predicting, I would think the Browns would be the only team from the AFC North to make the playoffs.

I like the moves but now you are just being silly, especially with Charlie Frye at QB.

Agree. Wouldn't surprise me one bit to see the Browns take a QB in this draft.

 

[knowledge dropper]

Solid move. He's essentially a known commodity in Romeo's defensive scheme and brings a ton of onfield and off the field leadership.

Solid player, but I don't see the paying a 34 year old this much and you are not ready to advance in the playoffs. Cleveland has set themselves up but I see it more in a year or 2 (granted it happens quickly in the NFL now) and McGinnest seems more of a last piece of the puzzle guy.I am not saying it is a bad signing, but I don't see it as real good either because I still think Cleveland is more than a year away.

I would disagree here. Last year, we went 6-10. This year, we now have 6 big free agent signings, we get Winslow back, Braylon Edwards back, and a year of experience for Charlie Frye, an entire year of the 3-4 defense under our belt, and rookies in the draft (we didn't really lose any veterans). We should easily be 8-8 if we can stay healthy, and very possibly 10-6 with a good shot at the playoffs.

So who doesnt make the playoffs now, Bengals or Steelers? Ravens will not improve?

I don't really know, but I would think both could be in for letdown years. I'm not guaranteeing playoffs, I just think its more than a little possible. I think the Bengals will really struggle if Palmer doesn't come back strong, and could see them sinking again, and I've always thought the Steelers were overrated. If I were predicting, I would think the Browns would be the only team from the AFC North to make the playoffs.

What color is the sky in your world? The Browns have moved ahead of the Ravens. Nothing else.

 

[Browns Rule!]

Solid move. He's essentially a known commodity in Romeo's defensive scheme and brings a ton of onfield and off the field leadership.

Solid player, but I don't see the paying a 34 year old this much and you are not ready to advance in the playoffs. Cleveland has set themselves up but I see it more in a year or 2 (granted it happens quickly in the NFL now) and McGinnest seems more of a last piece of the puzzle guy.I am not saying it is a bad signing, but I don't see it as real good either because I still think Cleveland is more than a year away.

I would disagree here. Last year, we went 6-10. This year, we now have 6 big free agent signings, we get Winslow back, Braylon Edwards back, and a year of experience for Charlie Frye, an entire year of the 3-4 defense under our belt, and rookies in the draft (we didn't really lose any veterans). We should easily be 8-8 if we can stay healthy, and very possibly 10-6 with a good shot at the playoffs.

So who doesnt make the playoffs now, Bengals or Steelers? Ravens will not improve?

I don't really know, but I would think both could be in for letdown years. I'm not guaranteeing playoffs, I just think its more than a little possible. I think the Bengals will really struggle if Palmer doesn't come back strong, and could see them sinking again, and I've always thought the Steelers were overrated. If I were predicting, I would think the Browns would be the only team from the AFC North to make the playoffs.

What color is the sky in your world? The Browns have moved ahead of the Ravens. Nothing else.

Its just my non-biased opinion based on the offseason Anyhow, Pitt and Cincinnati both had great years and neither should have as good of a year this year IMO

 

[Kosar]

Solid move. He's essentially a known commodity in Romeo's defensive scheme and brings a ton of onfield and off the field leadership.

Solid player, but I don't see the paying a 34 year old this much and you are not ready to advance in the playoffs. Cleveland has set themselves up but I see it more in a year or 2 (granted it happens quickly in the NFL now) and McGinnest seems more of a last piece of the puzzle guy.I am not saying it is a bad signing, but I don't see it as real good either because I still think Cleveland is more than a year away.

I would disagree here. Last year, we went 6-10. This year, we now have 6 big free agent signings, we get Winslow back, Braylon Edwards back, and a year of experience for Charlie Frye, an entire year of the 3-4 defense under our belt, and rookies in the draft (we didn't really lose any veterans). We should easily be 8-8 if we can stay healthy, and very possibly 10-6 with a good shot at the playoffs.

So who doesnt make the playoffs now, Bengals or Steelers? Ravens will not improve?

I don't really know, but I would think both could be in for letdown years. I'm not guaranteeing playoffs, I just think its more than a little possible. I think the Bengals will really struggle if Palmer doesn't come back strong, and could see them sinking again, and I've always thought the Steelers were overrated. If I were predicting, I would think the Browns would be the only team from the AFC North to make the playoffs.

What color is the sky in your world? The Browns have moved ahead of the Ravens. Nothing else.

Its just my non-biased opinion based on the offseason Anyhow, Pitt and Cincinnati both had great years and neither should have as good of a year this year IMO

Cincinnati MAYBE slows down a little without Palmer, but how can you say that about Pittsburgh?

 

[Browns Rule!]

Solid move. He's essentially a known commodity in Romeo's defensive scheme and brings a ton of onfield and off the field leadership.

Solid player, but I don't see the paying a 34 year old this much and you are not ready to advance in the playoffs. Cleveland has set themselves up but I see it more in a year or 2 (granted it happens quickly in the NFL now) and McGinnest seems more of a last piece of the puzzle guy.I am not saying it is a bad signing, but I don't see it as real good either because I still think Cleveland is more than a year away.

I would disagree here. Last year, we went 6-10. This year, we now have 6 big free agent signings, we get Winslow back, Braylon Edwards back, and a year of experience for Charlie Frye, an entire year of the 3-4 defense under our belt, and rookies in the draft (we didn't really lose any veterans). We should easily be 8-8 if we can stay healthy, and very possibly 10-6 with a good shot at the playoffs.

So who doesnt make the playoffs now, Bengals or Steelers? Ravens will not improve?

I don't really know, but I would think both could be in for letdown years. I'm not guaranteeing playoffs, I just think its more than a little possible. I think the Bengals will really struggle if Palmer doesn't come back strong, and could see them sinking again, and I've always thought the Steelers were overrated. If I were predicting, I would think the Browns would be the only team from the AFC North to make the playoffs.

What color is the sky in your world? The Browns have moved ahead of the Ravens. Nothing else.

Its just my non-biased opinion based on the offseason Anyhow, Pitt and Cincinnati both had great years and neither should have as good of a year this year IMO

Cincinnati MAYBE slows down a little without Palmer, but how can you say that about Pittsburgh?

Because they won the Super Bowl, and it is hard to have a better season than that.

 

[knowledge dropper]

Solid move. He's essentially a known commodity in Romeo's defensive scheme and brings a ton of onfield and off the field leadership.

Solid player, but I don't see the paying a 34 year old this much and you are not ready to advance in the playoffs. Cleveland has set themselves up but I see it more in a year or 2 (granted it happens quickly in the NFL now) and McGinnest seems more of a last piece of the puzzle guy.I am not saying it is a bad signing, but I don't see it as real good either because I still think Cleveland is more than a year away.

I would disagree here. Last year, we went 6-10. This year, we now have 6 big free agent signings, we get Winslow back, Braylon Edwards back, and a year of experience for Charlie Frye, an entire year of the 3-4 defense under our belt, and rookies in the draft (we didn't really lose any veterans). We should easily be 8-8 if we can stay healthy, and very possibly 10-6 with a good shot at the playoffs.

So who doesnt make the playoffs now, Bengals or Steelers? Ravens will not improve?

I don't really know, but I would think both could be in for letdown years. I'm not guaranteeing playoffs, I just think its more than a little possible. I think the Bengals will really struggle if Palmer doesn't come back strong, and could see them sinking again, and I've always thought the Steelers were overrated. If I were predicting, I would think the Browns would be the only team from the AFC North to make the playoffs.

What color is the sky in your world? The Browns have moved ahead of the Ravens. Nothing else.

Its just my non-biased opinion based on the offseason Anyhow, Pitt and Cincinnati both had great years and neither should have as good of a year this year IMO

Cincinnati MAYBE slows down a little without Palmer, but how can you say that about Pittsburgh?

Because they won the Super Bowl, and it is hard to have a better season than that.

Unless, of course, they win the division AND the Super Bowl