Mcnabb is an ##### (1 Viewer)

[catdog]

Not liking Owens is one thing, but to bring race into it

is lame.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-e...ov=ap&type=lgns

edit for link

 

[Bankerguy]

Stay classy Donovan.....I truly think you are a p.o.s. You will never be more than a paycheck player.I love how everyone will come to McNabb's defense though.

 

[adog99]

its true brett favre is a better QB than MCNugget it doesnt matter if he is black or whitemcnabb = Vick = OVERATED

 

[buster c]

something's just not right with mc slab. he's a decent QB, but has some peculiar comments.

 

[cstu]

Stay classy Donovan.....I truly think you are a p.o.s. You will never be more than a paycheck player.

I love how everyone will come to McNabb's defense though.

He's a p.o.s. because he'd called TO's comments "black on black crime"? Let me see...

McNabb black? Check.

TO black? Check.

TO making slanderous comments about McNabb? Check.

 

[Slinger]

"It's different to say, `If we had Michael Vick or Daunte Culpepper or Steve McNair or Byron Leftwich," McNabb said of four black starting quarterbacks. "But to go straight to Brett Favre, that kind of just slapped me in the face like, `Wow ..."'This comment is more immature than anything that has ever come out of TO's mouth. I'm flabbergasted.

 

[cstu]

"It's different to say, `If we had Michael Vick or Daunte Culpepper or Steve McNair or Byron Leftwich," McNabb said of four black starting quarterbacks. "But to go straight to Brett Favre, that kind of just slapped me in the face like, `Wow ..."'

This comment is more immature than anything that has ever come out of TO's mouth. I'm flabbergasted.

I guess you forgot about the race related comments he had to deal with from Rush Limbaugh. Maybe he feels it was wrong for his own teammate to basically be saying the same thing.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

McNabb is a moron.

 

[Slinger]

Rush Limbaugh said that the media wanted him to do well because he's a black quarterback.TO just said that the Eagles would do better with Brett Favre and made no reference or no hints towards race.

 

[-OZ-]

"It's different to say, `If we had Michael Vick or Daunte Culpepper or Steve McNair or Byron Leftwich," McNabb said of four black starting quarterbacks. "But to go straight to Brett Favre, that kind of just slapped me in the face like, `Wow ..."'

This comment is more immature than anything that has ever come out of TO's mouth. I'm flabbergasted.

I guess you forgot about the race related comments he had to deal with from Rush Limbaugh. Maybe he feels it was wrong for his own teammate to basically be saying the same thing.

What an idiot.First, all of those QBs have missed games and wouldn't have been correct.

Second, Rush and TO are actually right, but few will admit it.

 

[Guzalot]

It's more ore like an ##### on ##### crime.

 

[Bankerguy]

:IBTL: If you said what I think you said.

 

[cstu]

"It's different to say, `If we had Michael Vick or Daunte Culpepper or Steve McNair or Byron Leftwich," McNabb said of four black starting quarterbacks. "But to go straight to Brett Favre, that kind of just slapped me in the face like, `Wow ..."'

This comment is more immature than anything that has ever come out of TO's mouth. I'm flabbergasted.

I guess you forgot about the race related comments he had to deal with from Rush Limbaugh. Maybe he feels it was wrong for his own teammate to basically be saying the same thing.

What an idiot.First, all of those QBs have missed games and wouldn't have been correct.

Second, Rush and TO are actually right, but few will admit it.

Jesus, peope defending jackasses like Rush and TO and called McNabb a #####.

 

[Zaphod]

"It's different to say, `If we had Michael Vick or Daunte Culpepper or Steve McNair or Byron Leftwich," McNabb said of four black starting quarterbacks. "But to go straight to Brett Favre, that kind of just slapped me in the face like, `Wow ..."'

This comment is more immature than anything that has ever come out of TO's mouth. I'm flabbergasted.

Wow, I have to say that I expected a lot more out of this thread...To have to sit quiet for over a year and watch someone with half a brain carry out character assassination on you is something that few of us have ever had to deal with. Heck, most of the people here can't let one post go by without retaliating.

To basically pick one of the worst starting white QBs this season and say your team would be better off with that QB IS a serious slap in the face. And I don't think it was an accident that Owens chose a white player. How many of you have forgotten the constant Uncle Tom crap that McNabb has had to put up with over the years? This type of criticism isn't out of the blue, it has roots deeper than Owens and Mondesire and I think it is fair that McNabb be allowed to address it as such.

 

[Texasmouth]

How is Rush a jackass for saying what lots of people agreed with.He is a jackass for lots of other things but not for saying that about mcnabb. I thought it was completely true. I actually even like McNabb.

 

[-OZ-]

First, all of those QBs have missed games and wouldn't have been correct.

Second, Rush and TO are actually right, but few will admit it.

Jesus, peope defending jackasses like Rush and TO and called McNabb a #####.

I didn't defend the people, just the comments.

 

[Jason Wood]

Personally I found his statements to be assinine. And I'm about as big a DM5 fan as their is.

 

[cstu]

Rush Limbaugh said that the media wanted him to do well because he's a black quarterback.

TO just said that the Eagles would do better with Brett Favre and made no reference or no hints towards race.

Rush's view that black QB's somehow get treated better than whites by the media in effect says that black QB's aren't really as good as white QB's even if they appear to be.TO understood perfectly well what effect him saying that he would rather have a white QB would have on McNabb. You're very naive if you think that TO knew nothing about the situation with Rush and what McNabb thought about it.

 

[-OZ-]

Wow, I have to say that I expected a lot more out of this thread...

To have to sit quiet for over a year and watch someone with half a brain carry out character assassination on you is something that few of us have ever had to deal with. Heck, most of the people here can't let one post go by without retaliating.

To basically pick one of the worst starting white QBs this season and say your team would be better off with that QB IS a serious slap in the face. And I don't think it was an accident that Owens chose a white player. How many of you have forgotten the constant Uncle Tom crap that McNabb has had to put up with over the years? This type of criticism isn't out of the blue, it has roots deeper than Owens and Mondesire and I think it is fair that McNabb be allowed to address it as such.

It may not have been an accident, but what black QB could he have used and made the comment as accurate? (assuming for the sake of argument that the comment had to be said in the first place) Favre played like crap this year, but for their career, who would you take?

 

[Bankerguy]

My comments about McNabb have nothing to do with Owens. He has some issues for sure. I guess I am sick of hearing how "classy" McFlabb is. Yet, he spouts this crap. The interview he had with the media after the Rosenhaus dibacle was bad too.With a mental looking face he stands up and says "next question". Oh.....Good one Donovan, you should try stand up.

 

[Sinrman]

McNabb is entitled to his opinion. He felt betrayed by TO and what was being said about him was a slap in the face. But to say something like that? Come on Donovan, you're better than that...

 

[cstu]

Wow, I have to say that I expected a lot more out of this thread...

To have to sit quiet for over a year and watch someone with half a brain carry out character assassination on you is something that few of us have ever had to deal with. Heck, most of the people here can't let one post go by without retaliating.

To basically pick one of the worst starting white QBs this season and say your team would be better off with that QB IS a serious slap in the face. And I don't think it was an accident that Owens chose a white player. How many of you have forgotten the constant Uncle Tom crap that McNabb has had to put up with over the years? This type of criticism isn't out of the blue, it has roots deeper than Owens and Mondesire and I think it is fair that McNabb be allowed to address it as such.

It may not have been an accident, but what black QB could he have used and made the comment as accurate? (assuming for the sake of argument that the comment had to be said in the first place) Favre played like crap this year, but for their career, who would you take?

You don't get it do you? TO comments had NOTHING to do with who he really wanted at QB (he would have said Manning if that was the case) but this was just his way of giving it to McNabb for being a bigger star in Philly than him. TO is nothing but scum and it sickens me that people will use any excuse to put down a guy like McNabb who has done of better job of remaining classy that probably anyone on this board could have done.

 

[-OZ-]

It may not have been an accident, but what black QB could he have used and made the comment as accurate? (assuming for the sake of argument that the comment had to be said in the first place) Favre played like crap this year, but for their career, who would you take?

You don't get it do you? TO comments had NOTHING to do with who he really wanted at QB (he would have said Manning if that was the case) but this was just his way of giving it to McNabb for being a bigger star in Philly than him. TO is nothing but scum and it sickens me that people will use any excuse to put down a guy like McNabb who has done of better job of remaining classy that probably anyone on this board could have done.

Yeah, I get it. I didn't look at it from a race perspective at the time and most didn't. McNabb did, I understand why. I'm just a little sick of everyone assuming race is the only thing that matters. The fact that Brett plays hurt has something to do with the comment, otherwise he could have used Hasselbeck, Ben, Eli, or a slew of other, lesser QBs. The fact that he chose to use the ironman as in his comment means more to me than race, as I think it did for most fans.

 

[cstu]

It may not have been an accident, but what black QB could he have used and made the comment as accurate? (assuming for the sake of argument that the comment had to be said in the first place) Favre played like crap this year, but for their career, who would you take?

You don't get it do you? TO comments had NOTHING to do with who he really wanted at QB (he would have said Manning if that was the case) but this was just his way of giving it to McNabb for being a bigger star in Philly than him. TO is nothing but scum and it sickens me that people will use any excuse to put down a guy like McNabb who has done of better job of remaining classy that probably anyone on this board could have done.

Yeah, I get it. I didn't look at it from a race perspective at the time and most didn't. McNabb did, I understand why. I'm just a little sick of everyone assuming race is the only thing that matters. The fact that Brett plays hurt has something to do with the comment, otherwise he could have used Hasselbeck, Ben, Eli, or a slew of other, lesser QBs. The fact that he chose to use the ironman as in his comment means more to me than race, as I think it did for most fans.

The playing hurt issue was another slam by TO and ridiculous considering he was playing with an injured groin since training camp:

DETROIT -- Still recovering mentally and physically from the most difficult season of his NFL career, Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb said Tuesday afternoon that his rehabilitation from sports hernia surgery is "going great" and that he expects to participate in the team's offseason program.

Donovan McNabb

AP

McNabb tore his groin against the Cowboys -- his last game of the season before surgery.

"I've been rehabilitating for the last four to six weeks and I've taken big strides," said McNabb, after making a promotional appearance in conjunction with Super Bowl week. "The good thing about this is that we have some time. I don't have to rush things. So it's just a matter of going through the process. [but] it should be fine."

The Eagles' star underwent surgery, performed by Dr. William Meyers at the Hahnemann Hospital in Philadelphia, on Nov. 28. He was off his feet for three weeks following the procedure and has been rehabilitating ever since at the team's NovaCare Complex. At some point in the next few weeks, McNabb said, he will go to Arizona, where he usually spends his offseasons, and continue his recovery there.

McNabb, 29, looked fit during an appearance that also featured Pittsburgh running back Jerome Bettis and the mothers of the two players. Notable, though, is that McNabb did not run onto the stage area when he was introduced, as did the others. He walked out slowly, but seemed to move well while participating in some of the "competitions" that were a part of the promotion.

In what was an injury-plagued season, McNabb appeared in only nine games in 2005, and completed 211 of 357 passes for 2,507 yards, with 16 touchdown passes, nine interceptions and an efficiency rating of 85.0. It is believed he first sustained the sports hernia injury in training camp, at which point Dr. Meyers began to monitor it, and the situation just got progressively worse.

The last appearance for McNabb in 2005 was the Monday night home loss to Dallas on Nov. 14, a game in which he was blocked to the ground by Cowboys linebacker Bradie James as safety Roy Williams returned an interception for the game-winning touchdown. Shortly after that, McNabb was placed on injured reserve, and then he had the surgery two weeks later.

"That was the game where I just couldn't do it anymore," McNabb said. "There is a difference between being injured and being hurt and, in that game, I was hurt. I tore four tendons in my groin. I always felt like nothing could stop me from achieving my goals, but that injury did."

McNabb emphasized he is ready to resume his role as the Eagles' leader and help the club rebound from a dismal 6-10 record. Philadelphia finished last in the NFC East in 2005 after winning the division the four previous seasons and advancing to Super Bowl XXXIX in 2004.

"We all know what happened [last year]," McNabb said. "Individually, it's my role to establish with my teammates that I'm around and I'm working hard. But it's going to take all of us understanding what happened to us last year to get [back on track]."

Asked about reports that personal nemesis Terrell Owens visited with Denver Broncos coach Mike Shanahan on Monday, McNabb called the recalcitrant wide receiver "a great player. If he goes [to Denver], the people there should be excited." But when asked what kind of advice he might provide Jake Plummer if Denver was to acquire Owens in a trade or perhaps in free agency, McNabb said any such counsel would remain between he and the Broncos' quarterback.

 

[avoiding injuries]

Didn't Irvin suggest Favre, not TO?

 

[Chaos Commish]

Personally I found his statements to be assinine. And I'm about as big a DM5 fan as their is.

Agreed. I bet if there's video McNabb is laughing a little as he says this asinine stuff. Black on black crime!?



eta: There's vid and I just watched it. He's dead serious about this.

 

[Bankerguy]

Personally I found his statements to be assinine. And I'm about as big a DM5 fan as their is.

Agreed. I bet if there's video McNabb is laughing a little as he says this asinine stuff. Black on black crime!?



eta: There's vid and I just watched it. He's dead serious about this.

Link???

 

[greenroom]

Stay classy Donovan.....I truly think you are a p.o.s.  You will never be more than a paycheck player.

I love how everyone will come to McNabb's defense though.

He's a p.o.s. because he'd called TO's comments "black on black crime"? Let me see...

McNabb black? Check.

TO black? Check.

TO making slanderous comments about McNabb? Check.

Last I checked TO did not commit a crime?So this was just McNabb being McNabb. America gets to see that it went both ways. Just McNabb had the Eagles cover up his crap so the public would not see that he is just as big of a ### as TO is.

Black on Black Crime....LOL....

 

[harrycarey]

wow

 

[Spartans Rule]

"It's different to say, `If we had Michael Vick or Daunte Culpepper or Steve McNair or Byron Leftwich," McNabb said of four black starting quarterbacks. "But to go straight to Brett Favre, that kind of just slapped me in the face like, `Wow ..."'

This comment is more immature than anything that has ever come out of TO's mouth. I'm flabbergasted.

Wow, I have to say that I expected a lot more out of this thread...To have to sit quiet for over a year and watch someone with half a brain carry out character assassination on you is something that few of us have ever had to deal with. Heck, most of the people here can't let one post go by without retaliating.

To basically pick one of the worst starting white QBs this season and say your team would be better off with that QB IS a serious slap in the face. And I don't think it was an accident that Owens chose a white player. How many of you have forgotten the constant Uncle Tom crap that McNabb has had to put up with over the years? This type of criticism isn't out of the blue, it has roots deeper than Owens and Mondesire and I think it is fair that McNabb be allowed to address it as such.

The name Brett Favre is a widely recognized gold standard at quarterback. Hall-of-fame lock, extremely popular, known for his toughness and leadership. The prototype for what a quarterback should be.Sure, he put up terrible numbers after the Pack gutted the offensive line in the offseason, lost its best WR in the opener and had its entire stable of running backs knocked out for the season. You think TO was concerned with those numbers when he made those comments? Of course not. He was taking the name every casual fan associates with grit and toughness at the QB position, and saying McNabb wasn't that.

If TO had said they'd be better off with Joey Harrington, that could be taken as a racist statement. But Brett Favre? I don't think so.

I do agree that TO is a jackass and no one should have to deal with what he put McNabb through. But this was never a racial thing until McNabb made it one, and that was stupid and immature of him.

 

[DrJ]

Didn't Irvin suggest Favre, not TO?

 

[scratcher]

I'm with you all the way CSTU and Zaphod. It will take more than one comment (however stupid it may have been) to taint my opinion of McNabb. I'm sure people here have said much dumber things. But people here are just looking for a reason to rip apart people they have no preference for. I probably would have done the same if another player I didn't care for said the same thing. Human nature, I guess. O well, no matter. Carry on with the McNabb bashing.

 

[gman8343]

I always liked McNabb, but I just lost a ton of respect for him.

 

[Slinger]

Rush Limbaugh said that the media wanted him to do well because he's a black quarterback.

TO just said that the Eagles would do better with Brett Favre and made no reference or no hints towards race.

Rush's view that black QB's somehow get treated better than whites by the media in effect says that black QB's aren't really as good as white QB's even if they appear to be.TO understood perfectly well what effect him saying that he would rather have a white QB would have on McNabb. You're very naive if you think that TO knew nothing about the situation with Rush and what McNabb thought about it.

Put words in people's mouth much? I never said that TO didn't know about the whole Rush thing.TO, as dumb as he is, did not mention Brett Favre because he's white. Please send me a link to a credible source that says otherwise. :Cricket:

 

[Slinger]

"It's different to say, `If we had Michael Vick or Daunte Culpepper or Steve McNair or Byron Leftwich," McNabb said of four black starting quarterbacks. "But to go straight to Brett Favre, that kind of just slapped me in the face like, `Wow ..."'

This comment is more immature than anything that has ever come out of TO's mouth. I'm flabbergasted.

Wow, I have to say that I expected a lot more out of this thread...To basically pick one of the worst starting white QBs this season and say your team would be better off with that QB IS a serious slap in the face.

Like wow, Brett Favre is a HOF with credentials and TO's comment was made in the early stages of this season, before Favre threw for 50+ INT's.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Personally I found his statements to be assinine. And I'm about as big a DM5 fan as their is.

Agreed. I bet if there's video McNabb is laughing a little as he says this asinine stuff. Black on black crime!?



eta: There's vid and I just watched it. He's dead serious about this.

Link???

I saw it on espn. I'm sure it will be on every segment of sportscenter tonight and replayed a dozen times. Stephen A is interviewing him. McNabb has this bespectacled sophisticated thing going. He's dead serious. black on black crime...

 

[Slinger]

I'd just like to add that I HATE it when the race card is used in these silly situations. It downplays situations when it should be used.

 

[MLBrandow]

Why does everyone hate McNabb? He's a great QB and was silent the entire year until the situation had been resolved.'For the record I am completely in support of Owens and how terrible the Eagles Organization is to its players not named Donovan McNabb.

 

[gman8343]

Why does everyone hate McNabb? He's a great QB and was silent the entire year until the situation had been resolved.'

People aren't saying they hate him, they're saying his comments are completely idiotic and out of line.And they are.

 

[babydemon90]

Not liking Owens is one thing, but to bring race into it

is lame.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-e...ov=ap&type=lgns

edit for link

So how long a timeout does this guy get for using the ###### crap in a thread title....

 

[KingPrawn]

"It's different to say, `If we had Michael Vick or Daunte Culpepper or Steve McNair or Byron Leftwich," McNabb said of four black starting quarterbacks. "But to go straight to Brett Favre, that kind of just slapped me in the face like, `Wow ..."'

This comment is more immature than anything that has ever come out of TO's mouth. I'm flabbergasted.

Wow, I have to say that I expected a lot more out of this thread...To have to sit quiet for over a year and watch someone with half a brain carry out character assassination on you is something that few of us have ever had to deal with. Heck, most of the people here can't let one post go by without retaliating.

To basically pick one of the worst starting white QBs this season and say your team would be better off with that QB IS a serious slap in the face. And I don't think it was an accident that Owens chose a white player. How many of you have forgotten the constant Uncle Tom crap that McNabb has had to put up with over the years? This type of criticism isn't out of the blue, it has roots deeper than Owens and Mondesire and I think it is fair that McNabb be allowed to address it as such.

The name Brett Favre is a widely recognized gold standard at quarterback. Hall-of-fame lock, extremely popular, known for his toughness and leadership. The prototype for what a quarterback should be.Sure, he put up terrible numbers after the Pack gutted the offensive line in the offseason, lost its best WR in the opener and had its entire stable of running backs knocked out for the season. You think TO was concerned with those numbers when he made those comments? Of course not. He was taking the name every casual fan associates with grit and toughness at the QB position, and saying McNabb wasn't that.

If TO had said they'd be better off with Joey Harrington, that could be taken as a racist statement. But Brett Favre? I don't think so.

I do agree that TO is a jackass and no one should have to deal with what he put McNabb through. But this was never a racial thing until McNabb made it one, and that was stupid and immature of him.

 

[Guzalot]

:IBTL:

If you said what I think you said.

Which makes me wonder exactly what you think I said...

 

[Pat Patriot]

I liked McNabb before this year. However, everyone assumes since he kept his mouth shut until the end of the season that he was the classy one.

McNabb has made up for lost time in the off season with idiotic comments. His ego is out of control.

"I was about to go to bed when I heard it," McNabb recalled. "I caught the late show on ESPN. Me and my wife are laying there, interview comes on. It baffled me some of the things he said. I started laughing and my wife looked at me and she said, 'You find that funny?' That was just another step toward what's been going on, like, 'You gotta be kidding me.' I laughed and she took it to heart, really got p----- off about it, and I went to bed.

He wants everyone to think that nothing bothers him so he has that fake laugh thing. However, he remembers every slight and gives the impression at least that he has the POWER in the Eagles organization and is not afraid to weild it.

In response to the NAACP article, he responded "Look at what happened with each of the last 2 guys to talk about me. They both lost their jobs (Limbaugh and TO)."

He said today that when things started going bad in Week 12 of year 1 with TO, he told TO. "We need to be on the same page, we're heading to the SB. Thats why I brought you here." To me, that is a pretty arrogant thing to say. As if TO didnt choose Philly and sign with them.

I just think McNabb was the victim at first and then after it turned bad for TO and his power play didnt work for a new contract, he has sat back all smug and acted like, "see what happens when you cross me."

 

[Noahs Troopers]

Rush Limbaugh said that the media wanted him to do well because he's a black quarterback.

TO just said that the Eagles would do better with Brett Favre and made no reference or no hints towards race.

Let's not defend the POS TO, I recall him calling Garcia a homo which in my opinion is pretty f'd up.

 

[jeff_eaglz]

McNabb apparently has a brain hernia now.Those comments are just assinine.Did he make a New Year's Resolution to not take a high road any more?Shut up, heal, and go win some games next season.

 

[Da Guru]

You can`t win any more. They will spin it any which way but loose!

 

[shakeybarn]

McNabb is a racists, plain and simple. Rush Limbaugh gets dragged over the coals...and McNabb gets a back page article.

 

[Pat Patriot]

"You have someone who has basically been criticized his whole career."REALLY? Other than the Philly fans booing him at the draft because they wanted Ricky Williams, hasnt this guy got pretty good press his whole career?Until he choked in the SB and then the fiasco this year, he was a GOD in Philly.

 

[Pat Patriot]

How about this gem?He was asked what advise he would give Jake Plummer if Denver ends up trading for TO, "I'll give Jake my comments personally. That is between he and I."Is he really going to go out of his way to contact Plummer and tell him how much of an ### that TO is? Let it go.

 

[MSULions]

Didn't Irvin suggest Favre, not TO?

that was the first thing that entered my mind when i saw this on ESPN....TO didn't suggest Favre, the interviewer did. #######.