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McNabb took a comment made by TO about a QB comparison GIVEN to him by the interviewer that had NOTHING to do about race to begin with, and explains how it was an insult and a black-on-black crime to compare him to Favre essentially because he is white, but to compare him to ANY other black QB, regardless of talent, would have been acceptable. McNabb is a racist.
That's an excellent summation of the situation I think. Being compared to a Hall of Fame quarterback is a slap in the face? I was actually prepared to defend McNabb after the "black-on-black" comment, because I first thought that it had been made in jest (which proved to be incorrect), and secondly because I thought it had been taken out of context (which also seems to be incorrect). Even so, I don't find that comment to be that big of a deal.But I was nearly mystified after reading the Favre comment. Saying that a comparison to Favre is a "slap in the face" as opposed to being compared to Michael Vick, who has been a fairly pathetic quarterback up to this point in his career, is ridiculous.
I couldn't agree more. I wish I had known sooner what a sissified ##### he truly is.
that was the first thing that entered my mind when i saw this on ESPN....TO didn't suggest Favre, the interviewer did. #######.
So if somebody calls a woman a whore and then another individual asks me what I think of the comment and I agree, does that mean I am not accountable for calling someone's mother a whore?
You miss the point entirely. Its not that TO thinks Favre is better than McNabb, but the fact that McNabb got upset that TO chose a white QB over a black QB, when in reality, he only answered the choice given to him.that was the first thing that entered my mind when i saw this on ESPN....TO didn't suggest Favre, the interviewer did. #######.
Lets get real. It doesn't matter who brought it up, what matters is what comes out of T.O.'s mouth.
Who is responsible for the words that come out of T.O.'s mouth? It's not like the reporter held a gun to T.O.'s head and said, "You must answer the question in regards to Brett Favre."You miss the point entirely. Its not that TO thinks Favre is better than McNabb, but the fact that McNabb got upset that TO chose a white QB over a black QB, when in reality, he only answered the choice given to him.that was the first thing that entered my mind when i saw this on ESPN....TO didn't suggest Favre, the interviewer did. #######.
Lets get real. It doesn't matter who brought it up, what matters is what comes out of T.O.'s mouth.
Why are you trying to argue that TO thinks Favre was better than McNabb? No one is saying he doens't.Who is responsible for the words that come out of T.O.'s mouth? It's not like the reporter held a gun to T.O.'s head and said, "You must answer the question in regards to Brett Favre."You miss the point entirely. Its not that TO thinks Favre is better than McNabb, but the fact that McNabb got upset that TO chose a white QB over a black QB, when in reality, he only answered the choice given to him.that was the first thing that entered my mind when i saw this on ESPN....TO didn't suggest Favre, the interviewer did. #######.
Lets get real. It doesn't matter who brought it up, what matters is what comes out of T.O.'s mouth.
I am saying T.O. was aware that McNabb has been a lightning rod in the media for being a black quarterback. And if T.O. wanted to comment on McNabb playing hurt was actually hurting the team, his message would have been better received if he had made a comparison to another black quarterback. However, T.O. choose not to do this.
I actually disagree with you.Everyone is wanting to move on from this mess.
Are you saying McNabb is trying to bait T.O. into saying something to damage himself as he looks for a new team? If so, that's a stupid move by McNabb. He would only be damaging T.O.'s trade value.Or, are you saying McNabb knows T.O. won't respond at this point, so McNabb is just getting his shot in without the threat of retaliation? If so, some may consider it a well-played card, others might say it's childish and cowardly.
Earth to Blue Onion, people can be set up by questions from media professionals (or semi-professionals in this case). In this case, I doubt Irvin was purposely choosing a white QB, but merely using the best QB around, who is a lock for the Hall and a QB that can make a mediocre WR great. Unfortunately for McNabb, cNabb does not appear to have the ability to make a mediocre WR great.TO has done enough to be villified for. This one should be laid at the doorstep of the guy who asked the question and set it up for a comparison between McNabb and Favre rather than McNabb and Aaron Brooks (for example).Who is responsible for the words that come out of T.O.'s mouth? It's not like the reporter held a gun to T.O.'s head and said, "You must answer the question in regards to Brett Favre."You miss the point entirely. Its not that TO thinks Favre is better than McNabb, but the fact that McNabb got upset that TO chose a white QB over a black QB, when in reality, he only answered the choice given to him.that was the first thing that entered my mind when i saw this on ESPN....TO didn't suggest Favre, the interviewer did. #######.
Lets get real. It doesn't matter who brought it up, what matters is what comes out of T.O.'s mouth.
I will agree with this, the reporter asking the loaded questions deserves most of the blame. But can we really expect media personnel to throw other media personnel under the bus?But T.O. has to be accounted for what came out of his mouth (comparing a white quarterback to a black quarterback when the black quarterback is a lightning rod for racial issues), and likewise McNabb has to be responsible for what came out of his mouth (formally bringing race into the fray).
Edited - What is funny is that T.O. has an insatiable (sp??) need to be in the limelight and offer up his two cents. At this point, the media will almost be daring him to say something and anything he says could only hurt his opportunity to get his contract.
You can't be serious?
I give T.O. the benefit of the doubt. He seemed to use the media as a vehicle to take shots (whether legit or not) at McNabb, so yes I will give T.O. the benefit of the doubt.Kind of like the boy who cried wolf. Eventually one has to assume the pattern is not going to change.You can't be serious?
Seems many have overlooked this important point. But let's not let TO off the hook because he enjoyed the comment very much.What's odd about this entire situation is that we've gone from having a football discussion that evolves around what teammates mean to one another and the impact a player or player(s) can have on a team to a discussion on race. Isn't that sad.
Correct. T.O. agreed with Irvin when somebody from ESPN.com asked him about Irvin's comments during an interview. I think I linked the interview transcript in another thread way back when.Long story short, I think Owens always was merely saying, Mcnabb is hurt and him playing hurt had been hurting the team. Favre is a warrior and plays at a high level even when hurt, he is a on a ####ty team right now, but had Favre been on the Eagles with all the Eagles' weapons, Irvin is correct and the Eagles likely would have been undefeated at the time.
I agree 100%I think McNabb felt he needed to find a way to address "his color" and not being an Uncle Tom. He probably thought the best way to do it would be through pulling a race card with the "black on black crime". He didnt need to go that route.
