Mcnabb is an ##### (1 Viewer)

[Perfect Tommy]

It may not have been an accident, but what black QB could he have used and made the comment as accurate? (assuming for the sake of argument that the comment had to be said in the first place) Favre played like crap this year, but for their career, who would you take?

You don't get it do you? TO comments had NOTHING to do with who he really wanted at QB (he would have said Manning if that was the case) but this was just his way of giving it to McNabb for being a bigger star in Philly than him. TO is nothing but scum and it sickens me that people will use any excuse to put down a guy like McNabb who has done of better job of remaining classy that probably anyone on this board could have done.

Yeah, I get it. I didn't look at it from a race perspective at the time and most didn't. McNabb did, I understand why. I'm just a little sick of everyone assuming race is the only thing that matters. The fact that Brett plays hurt has something to do with the comment, otherwise he could have used Hasselbeck, Ben, Eli, or a slew of other, lesser QBs. The fact that he chose to use the ironman as in his comment means more to me than race, as I think it did for most fans.

Look, TO's comments were a veiled insult! The question of who TO would rather have a quarterback had nothing to do with career stats but was pointed toward THIS year, the here and now. Farve had a terrible year and anyone that thinks that the Eagles would have been undefeated, or even better off, with Farve at the helm are smoking some quality stuff. Farve was probably the worst QB in the league this year. Injuries do not account for Farve constanly tossing the ball up for grabs even without pressure on him! It seem like many are seeking to give Farve a pass concerning his poor play this year but the fact of the matter is he sucked!

TO's comments were meant to be, and in fact were, an insult to McNabb.

As far as the black on black crime goes, I think that Mcnabb has a point. TO picked the worst white QB, according to the early stats (and latter stats for that matter), to make his point. The fact that the white QB was Farve only gave the insult some momentum fwd due to the subsequent media appeal. (these guys aren't stupid)

Now then, I do think that much of this mess was orchastrated by TO to help him get a new deal. TO was going for more $$$ and many of his comments seemed to me to be a tad disingenious. Be that as it may, the Eagles and Mcnabb did not handle the situation very well. TO is all about the money and that means a new contract with a new signing bonus. Any team that is foolish enough to give TO a new contact with large $$$$ upfront, are likely to have the same problem. With out question this is what TO and his agent are going after but the fact of the matter is that the suiters are probably not going offer the upfront $$$ that TO wants.

That is unless they are fools.

TO is a very media savey, selfish, money grabbing fool, that has no regard for those around him. However, with the right contract ....... that can be used to ones advantage. The question is can anyone land TO with the "right contract" with all of the teams competing for his services? Maybe, maybe not, but we shall see what transpires.

Go Steelers!!

Mervis

If you think that Owen's point was that the worst QB in the league is better than McNabb, you are crazier than McNabb!! Favre is probably the most respected QB in the league, maybe in the history of the NFL. I doubt Irvin and Owens just pulled the name Brett Favre when they wanted to say a terrible QB. If that was their point, they might have said Ryan Leaf. They were clearly choosing the bestest, toughest, smartest QB they could think of. McNabb has a overtly racial view of the world and could not think of Favre as anything other than a white QB. It sounds like McNabb would have had the exact same interpretation if they had in fact said Ryan Leaf.

 

[Perfect Tommy]

I wonder how McNabb's nonblack teammates are going to react to this? If a white QB had made racist comments like this, I think his black teammates might have a problem with it. Think of the trouble the baseball player John Rocker had for comments much more innocuous than what McNabb said.

 

[greenroom]

Well to me I am very disappointed in the Media. I watched Around the Horn and PTI last night and not one of the panel were upset over his comments.when TO make his comments I did not think it had to do anything to do with his color. I think and still think it had to do with his Leadership (or lack of) ability within the Locker room. When you talk about Brett Farve you talk about someone who has a great command of the Locker Room. So to me this is very sad the McNabb can bring race into a Issue and not catch any flack over it. IF a White person had done said it the Media would have been all over him.

 

[Popinski]

Yes, McNabb is just plain weird. He reminds me of Herman Edwards. They both are paranoid and have a me vs world attitude.

There is never a reason to say what McNabb said, its just childish. Just shut up and play. No one cares for conspiracy theories and race relations.

Before last year's Superbowl I heard McNabb on a local Chicago radio interview, since he is from Chitown, the problem with McNabb is that he views his job in the NFL as some type of proselethizing for black athletes. He thinks he is representing the black race, he is representing the black QB, if he wins the superbowl, he would be the second black qb to win, and that he is doing his race a favor. He just seemed too focused on his blackness and not on the game. He was saying this not me. He would not stop talking about his blackness, like he had a chip on his shoulder.

Secondly, to call out people and use the race card is simply irresponsible and childish. He needs to grow up. Not everyone views everything in black and white.

If he really wanted to be the bigger man and show that TO is irrelevant, he should not dignify him with this kind of trash response. Honestly, when you read these kinds of comments you feel sorry for him. Any time he gets into a difficult situation, he plays the race card. He did this with Rush Limbaughs comments too. Rush's comments were in not overtly racist, (just not politically correct) but Donovans response was overtly "race card".

Here are limbaugh's comments for those that don't remember or just follow what the media buffoons say:

"Sorry to say this, I don't think he's been that good from the get-go," Limbaugh said. "I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this team."

McNabb suffers from the same Paranoia that Herman Edwards has. They both have this delusion that everyone is out to get them, me vs the world and that he has to defend everytihng he says. Herm is a complete idiot too. Anyone who heard his KC headcoach acceptance press conference has to be wondering where the black helicopters are that are following him. He is another subject though.

McNabb needs to gain some leadership abilities and stop making up for that lack by whimpering and calling everyone racist. I can understand him calling Rush a racist, that's easy... Rush is a White Republican... easy target, but still a very low blow. Now that he is calling other blacks racist... and the reference to black on black crime.... wow. What a shame! It's really sad.

This guy is spiraling into a disaster. He probably feels the world closing in around him and that he needs to build this pseudo force field around him by keeping everyone far away by calling them all racist and dulling their teeth so they can't hurt him.

 

[Fumbleweed]

Well to me I am very disappointed in the Media. I watched Around the Horn and PTI last night and not one of the panel were upset over his comments.

when TO make his comments I did not think it had to do anything to do with his color.

I think and still think it had to do with his Leadership (or lack of) ability within the Locker room. When you talk about Brett Farve you talk about someone who has a great command of the Locker Room.

So to me this is very sad the McNabb can bring race into a Issue and not catch any flack over it. IF a White person had done said it the Media would have been all over him.

Yep. McNabb got a pass........Disappointing, but predictable.

And, for the record, I still like much of what McNabb presents in terms of the person that he is. I just think these particular comments should have drawn criticism as they were very inappropriate.

 

[hammerhead12]

I still think that the solution to this whole mess would have been the day that TO came into the locker room wanting to fight, if the team fought him, ALL of them, pummel his arrogant ####. I was stoked when we (Philly) finally got a gamebreaking receiver, I was even thrilled it was TO, but man, could the guy be any dumber? Slam the guy who throws you the ball. Get mad about a contract you as a grown man negotiated and signed. And talk about dumb, show your true colors by publicly making a mess in Philly because you want a long term deal. Uh, hello, McFly? Do you really think any team will do anything more than "rent" you year to year from now on? ANY contract you sign will be laden with clauses about your behavior, protection for the team from your antics, etc. Andy Reid was very smart about how he handled the situation. One player cannot be bigger than the team. It was painful to watch the losses when you know TO could be helping the team win, but not worth having the cancer. It's sad really, what a great player, extreme talent, wasted on an idiot. If he would have sucked it up and been a man about his deal, played hard last year (this year) under his current contract, he could have won the superbowl with Philly possibly, market value climbs, and Philly still cuts him. If it's about the money, it's hard to make money when you are suspended without pay (4 games). LOL. TO dumb for his own good.It's too bad, he's not beating women, doing drugs, etc, it's just sheer arrogance and stupidity. Bye bye TO, I'll be the first to laugh when we win it all next year, ergh, always next year isn't it.