Mcnabb to Vikings? (1 Viewer)

[The Gatekeeper]

I just read on the rumors section that there are whispers that Philly might look to deal Mcnabb to the Vikings for draft picks to reunite Donovan with Brad Childress. Philly would then re-sign Garcia as their starter. I am not a loyal reader of this guy (Ben Maller I believe) so I don't know how accurate he is on anything. Has anyone heard this? I find this hard to believe but alot of people are saying that Garcia runs that offense better than Mcnabb does. Philly may think Garcia gives them a good chance to win for 2 years while they use a high draft pick this year or next to be the QB of the future. I don't think this trade is likely but am interested on anyone's opinion of the rumored deal.

 

[gman8343]

i'd be stunned if something like this happened.

 

[trader jake]

Andy Reid has too much manlove for McNabb...for now.

 

[diesel7982]

That would be pretty spectacular, but can't imagine the Vikes taking a chance on McNabb coming off an ACL.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Maller throws a lot of rumors / potential thoughts on the table and hopes some of them are right, IMHO.

No way Philly deals McNabb to Minnesota.

 

[suchislife]

Here's the text from that so-called rumor:

Intriguing thought: If the Philadelphia Eagles were to beat the Saints on Saturday in New Orleans with quarterback Jeff Garcia, they would advance to the NFC championship game without starting QB Donovan McNabb, who's out with a knee injury.

Would Eagles coach Andy Reid, a pal of Vikings coach Brad Childress, who was McNabb's offensive coordinator in Philadelphia, then be willing to trade McNabb, 30, to the Vikings, who need a blockbuster playmaker to retain their season-ticket base?

Or would the Vikings try to sign the unrestricted free agent Garcia, 36, who runs the same West Coast offense as Childress, allowing Tarvaris Jackson more time to develop?

Seems to me this is pure speculation on the writer's part, with no basis in fact. Nothing to see here, move along....

 

[Loopdog]

McNabb's contract is too big for a trade, no?

 

[Z-Dog]

That would be pretty spectacular, but can't imagine the Vikes taking a chance on McNabb coming off an ACL.

I was thinking the opposite! If anyone is going to take a chance on McNabb it would be Childress and the Vikings. Brad Johnson's not the answer, and Tarvaris Jackson's not the answer either. Question is what will the price be? Culpepper was dealt for a 2nd-rounder. Does that set the market? Will it take more than Minny's 1st-rounder?

 

[Jason Wood]

My fellow Eagles fans may think Garcia is the better answer, of course, they also favored benching him for AJ Feeley a few years ago, and voted more than 60% to trade McNabb to the Cardinals for Matt Leinart's draft rights.

IMHO, Andy Reid wouldn't trade McNabb under any circumstances short of McNabb requesting it...and even then he probably would say no.

 

[FFLHummers]

Here's the text from that so-called rumor:

...Or would the Vikings try to sign the unrestricted free agent Garcia, 36, who runs the same West Coast offense as Childress, allowing Tarvaris Jackson more time to develop?...

Seems to me this is pure speculation on the writer's part, with no basis in fact. Nothing to see here, move along....

Of the random speculation noted in this piece, this seems more likely. No matter the outcome of this weekend's game, Garcia market value will be at it's peak.

 

[Delusions Of Adequacy]

Perhaps you don't realize that Jeff Garcia is 36.

This is just crazy talk.

 

[jeter23]

Maller throws a lot of rumors / potential thoughts on the table and hopes some of them are right, IMHO.No way Philly deals McNabb to Minnesota.

Actually, he just pulls the rumors from columns across the country. But, a lot of what is posted on there is pure rumor.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

...nice bump for Troy Williamson if this trade goes through.

I don't see it happening.

 

[datonn]

Maller throws a lot of rumors / potential thoughts on the table and hopes some of them are right, IMHO.No way Philly deals McNabb to Minnesota.

Correct. Ben Maller is "nationally" what Charley Walters' (St. Paul Pioneer Press) "little birdie" is in the Minneapolis Saint Paul metro area. If any of us wanted to say "_________ to <NFL team>", and you post around 52,576 rumor entries concerning players changing teams (one for every rostered player who could move to the 31 other teams), you are guaranteed to probably get a few hundred of your calls correct every year. Fear and rumor-mongering. I could have a monkey throw crap at a wall covered with 32 NFL team logos and he's bound to get at least of few of 'em right too. I look at Ben Maller's content in 2006 (and recently) just like I do Charley Walters' premonitions: A good read, but pure fiction, guessing and most of the time.

 

[FFLHummers]

Perhaps you don't realize that Jeff Garcia is 36.This is just crazy talk.

Indeed, but Childress did start Johnson for 14 games...just saying...

 

[Pip's Invitation]

I have more of a chance of being the Vikes starting QB next year than McNabb does.

 

[None_More_Black]

It would makes sense for them to sign Garcia and try to develop either Jackson or another qb. Garcia at 36 really only has a few good years left.

 

[scratcher]

Luckily, the Philly FO isn't as dumb as a good portion of the Philly fan base. No way this happens.

 

[msommer]

...nice bump for Troy Williamson if this trade goes through.

The only bump Troy williamson would get would be if the ball would stop going bump against his hands, helmet, chest or simply whoosh in his vicinity. Until then it does no tmatter who throws him the ball

 

[msommer]

Perhaps you don't realize that Jeff Garcia is 36.This is just crazy talk.

Indeed, but Childress did start Johnson for 14 games...just saying...

That Childress is stupid does not mean the Philly FO is...

 

[hutchins929]

 

[Sinrman]

Maller throws a lot of rumors / potential thoughts on the table and hopes some of them are right, IMHO.No way Philly deals McNabb to Minnesota.

Agreed.Not a chance...

 

[roadkill1292]

My fellow Eagles fans may think Garcia is the better answer, of course, they also favored benching him for AJ Feeley a few years ago, and voted more than 60% to trade McNabb to the Cardinals for Matt Leinart's draft rights.

IMHO, Andy Reid wouldn't trade McNabb under any circumstances short of McNabb requesting it...and even then he probably would say no.

60%!? Good Lord. When that number hits 80 in a couple of years, maybe Donovan will have had enough of Philly and will travel 2 hours down I95 to replace an aging McNair and lead the Ravens to a Super Bowl.

 

[5Rings]

alot of people are saying that Garcia runs that offense better than Mcnabb does.

I think it might have more to do with better play calling, ie the 50/50 run/pass ratio with Garcia vs the 65/35 with McNabb.Seems to have some correlation to time of possession and how well the D seems to have played of late. Go figure.

 

[TheLastDispatch]

alot of people are saying that Garcia runs that offense better than Mcnabb does.

but what they mean is morniwhig (sp?) runs that offense better than reid.

no way that happens.

 

[Bri]

Maller throws a lot of rumors / potential thoughts on the table and hopes some of them are right, IMHO.

He usually provides sources/links on his site. Seems odd but that holds more weight for me than some other rumor sites because he does that.

 

[Bri]

I just read on the rumors section that there are whispers that Philly might look to deal Mcnabb to the Vikings for draft picks to reunite Donovan with Brad Childress. Philly would then re-sign Garcia as their starter. I am not a loyal reader of this guy (Ben Maller I believe) so I don't know how accurate he is on anything. Has anyone heard this? I find this hard to believe but alot of people are saying that Garcia runs that offense better than Mcnabb does. Philly may think Garcia gives them a good chance to win for 2 years while they use a high draft pick this year or next to be the QB of the future. I don't think this trade is likely but am interested on anyone's opinion of the rumored deal.

IMO McNabb is an MVP type quarterback while Garcia is a good WCO quarterback.If he were healthy he could command a large # of picks from Minny or picks and players etc. He's not so there's risk+reward. Having Garcia(if re-signed) can let them be the one's to take that risk. I'd rather be that team than the Vikes.

 

[RBM]

Garcia is on borrowed time here. Hes playing over his head right now

 

[reg]

Maller throws a lot of rumors / potential thoughts on the table and hopes some of them are right, IMHO.

He usually provides sources/links on his site. Seems odd but that holds more weight for me than some other rumor sites because he does that.

He got it from Charlie Walters who makes up more crap than anyone I know.http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/16423212.htm

ETA: PFT says that Charlie makes them look like a credible news source. (I have nothing against PFT, but Charlie is a complete blowhard who should not be in print or any media).

 

[Rogi]

This is a far fetched rumor. Plus, I really hope the Vikes don't get a QB that gets "sick" during the most important game of his life.

 

[Rogi]

Maller throws a lot of rumors / potential thoughts on the table and hopes some of them are right, IMHO.

He usually provides sources/links on his site. Seems odd but that holds more weight for me than some other rumor sites because he does that.

He got it from Charlie Walters who makes up more crap than anyone I know.http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/16423212.htm

Is this the same loser that said the Vikings are talking about trading Smoot to the Raiders for Porter? I could make this #### up.

 

[reg]

Maller throws a lot of rumors / potential thoughts on the table and hopes some of them are right, IMHO.

He usually provides sources/links on his site. Seems odd but that holds more weight for me than some other rumor sites because he does that.

He got it from Charlie Walters who makes up more crap than anyone I know.http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/16423212.htm

Is this the same loser that said the Vikings are talking about trading Smoot to the Raiders for Porter? I could make this #### up.

yes. he is about as bad as they come. I am sure any other minnesotan on the board would agree with me.

 

[Colin Dowling]

My fellow Eagles fans may think Garcia is the better answer, of course, they also favored benching him for AJ Feeley a few years ago, and voted more than 60% to trade McNabb to the Cardinals for Matt Leinart's draft rights. IMHO, Andy Reid wouldn't trade McNabb under any circumstances short of McNabb requesting it...and even then he probably would say no.

Interesting you think it's funny that McNabb could be traded. He's an excellent QB for sure, and may well be one of the top 10 in the league. THat said, he's 30 years old and even the best Eagles teams with McNabb under center weren't able to get over the hump...at least not so far. While I don't think a "McNabb for Leinart" trade would have made much sense for either party involved, I certainly don't think the notion of trading McNabb for a young quarterback and/or quality picks should necessarily be thought of as ludicrous. (I realize you never said "ludicrous", I'm just drawing off the LMAO smilies.) McNabb reminds me a great deal of Chris Webber; perhaps one of the finest players at any given time, but despite constantly changing/improving circumstances, nothing seems to work. Is it so bizarre to think that a change could actually improve the team's chances of winnin?

 

[PhillyStars]

just a bunch of crap .......... irresponsible reporting or whatever you call what this guy does

Here's one ........... I think that Matt Millen will trade his entire draft for Tamba Hali 'cause he has ties to PSU

what a dope

 

[softball]

I could see Garcia as the Vikes QB in 2007 LOOOONG before I could see McNabb.

Didn't McNabb sign a 120M deal also? Would be one serious cap challenge to dump Donny...

Not happening

 

[diesel7982]

My fellow Eagles fans may think Garcia is the better answer, of course, they also favored benching him for AJ Feeley a few years ago, and voted more than 60% to trade McNabb to the Cardinals for Matt Leinart's draft rights.

IMHO, Andy Reid wouldn't trade McNabb under any circumstances short of McNabb requesting it...and even then he probably would say no.

Interesting you think it's funny that McNabb could be traded. He's an excellent QB for sure, and may well be one of the top 10 in the league. THat said, he's 30 years old and even the best Eagles teams with McNabb under center weren't able to get over the hump...at least not so far. While I don't think a "McNabb for Leinart" trade would have made much sense for either party involved, I certainly don't think the notion of trading McNabb for a young quarterback and/or quality picks should necessarily be thought of as ludicrous. (I realize you never said "ludicrous", I'm just drawing off the LMAO smilies.) McNabb reminds me a great deal of Chris Webber; perhaps one of the finest players at any given time, but despite constantly changing/improving circumstances, nothing seems to work. Is it so bizarre to think that a change could actually improve the team's chances of winnin?

Would it be any question if he hadn't torn his ACL?

 

[Colin Dowling]

I think it's fair to say McNAbb's injury history can start to be considered a factor, rightly or wrongly.sdx

 

[suchislife]

My fellow Eagles fans may think Garcia is the better answer, of course, they also favored benching him for AJ Feeley a few years ago, and voted more than 60% to trade McNabb to the Cardinals for Matt Leinart's draft rights. IMHO, Andy Reid wouldn't trade McNabb under any circumstances short of McNabb requesting it...and even then he probably would say no.

Interesting you think it's funny that McNabb could be traded. He's an excellent QB for sure, and may well be one of the top 10 in the league. THat said, he's 30 years old and even the best Eagles teams with McNabb under center weren't able to get over the hump...at least not so far. While I don't think a "McNabb for Leinart" trade would have made much sense for either party involved, I certainly don't think the notion of trading McNabb for a young quarterback and/or quality picks should necessarily be thought of as ludicrous. (I realize you never said "ludicrous", I'm just drawing off the LMAO smilies.) McNabb reminds me a great deal of Chris Webber; perhaps one of the finest players at any given time, but despite constantly changing/improving circumstances, nothing seems to work. Is it so bizarre to think that a change could actually improve the team's chances of winnin?

There are very few, if any, untradeable players in the NFL. The likelyhood of the Eagles trading McNabb can certainly be debated. However the title of this thread would lead you believe that there are discussions going on that may send him to rejoin his old OC. The writer doesn't even mention 'unnamed sources' as a basis for his musings. His 'article' may as well begin with "Hey wouldn't it be funny if..." because that's about as relevant as it gets.When someone can at least quote the son-in-law of the sister of the Vikings equipment manager who thinks he heard Childress called Reid once, then maybe we can speculate that McNabb may be traded to Minnesota. Until then, please change the title of this thread.

 

[scratcher]

I think in another year we'll be looking back on this and saying how ludicrous this whole discussion was. McNabb will be under center of one of the best O-lines in the NFL with a consistent running game and better play calling. I'm drooling just thinking of the possibilities and equally as anxious to see the McNabb haters silenced.

 

[drummer]

Garcia is on borrowed time here. Hes playing over his head right now

 

[TheLastDispatch]

I'm drooling just thinking of the possibilities and equally as anxious to see the McNabb haters silenced.

Mcnabb is the only player I can think of that experts and fans go back and forth over so much. When things are good in philly everyone loves mcnabb and he's one of the best in the league. experts are saying how this guy has received an unfair amount of criticism his whole career, they've always said he was great, blah blah blah. then when things go south in philly everyone is saying he's a bum that can't cut it as a qb in the nfl. people are saying he's dumb, he's a choke artist, he doesn't have any heart, he's overrated, blah blah blah.its a tired routine..

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I'm drooling just thinking of the possibilities and equally as anxious to see the McNabb haters silenced.

Mcnabb is the only player I can think of that experts and fans go back and forth over so much. When things are good in philly everyone loves mcnabb and he's one of the best in the league. experts are saying how this guy has received an unfair amount of criticism his whole career, they've always said he was great, blah blah blah. then when things go south in philly everyone is saying he's a bum that can't cut it as a qb in the nfl. people are saying he's dumb, he's a choke artist, he doesn't have any heart, he's overrated, blah blah blah.its a tired routine..

Um, Michael Vick?

 

[diesel7982]

I'm drooling just thinking of the possibilities and equally as anxious to see the McNabb haters silenced.

Mcnabb is the only player I can think of that experts and fans go back and forth over so much. When things are good in philly everyone loves mcnabb and he's one of the best in the league. experts are saying how this guy has received an unfair amount of criticism his whole career, they've always said he was great, blah blah blah. then when things go south in philly everyone is saying he's a bum that can't cut it as a qb in the nfl. people are saying he's dumb, he's a choke artist, he doesn't have any heart, he's overrated, blah blah blah.its a tired routine..

Um, Michael Vick?

Jake Plummer

 

[-OZ-]

I'm drooling just thinking of the possibilities and equally as anxious to see the McNabb haters silenced.

Mcnabb is the only player I can think of that experts and fans go back and forth over so much. When things are good in philly everyone loves mcnabb and he's one of the best in the league. experts are saying how this guy has received an unfair amount of criticism his whole career, they've always said he was great, blah blah blah. then when things go south in philly everyone is saying he's a bum that can't cut it as a qb in the nfl. people are saying he's dumb, he's a choke artist, he doesn't have any heart, he's overrated, blah blah blah.its a tired routine..

Um, Michael Vick?

Jake Plummer

Peyton Manning?

 

[stbugs]

I'm drooling just thinking of the possibilities and equally as anxious to see the McNabb haters silenced.

Mcnabb is the only player I can think of that experts and fans go back and forth over so much. When things are good in philly everyone loves mcnabb and he's one of the best in the league. experts are saying how this guy has received an unfair amount of criticism his whole career, they've always said he was great, blah blah blah. then when things go south in philly everyone is saying he's a bum that can't cut it as a qb in the nfl. people are saying he's dumb, he's a choke artist, he doesn't have any heart, he's overrated, blah blah blah.its a tired routine..

Um, Michael Vick?

Jake Plummer

Peyton Manning?

Could we just end this with the list of QBs that make the playoffs multiple times but don't win the Super Bowl? I think that would cover it.

 

[Banger]

I don't think so...

 

[LTsharks]

Luckily, the Philly FO isn't as dumb as a good portion of the Philly fan base. No way this happens.

 

[Steelnation]

 

[Slum Lord]

I just read on the rumors section that there are whispers that Philly might look to deal Mcnabb to the Vikings for draft picks to reunite Donovan with Brad Childress. Philly would then re-sign Garcia as their starter.

Yeah because look how well the Vikings did this year when they commited to an old man who had a good 8 games last year.

 

[fatness]

"Let's replace our perennial Pro Bowl QB with a guy who's 6 years older and has had half a good season in the last 3 years."