McNabb Trade Rumor du jour (1 Viewer)

[delusional]

i agree with mayock, i think all this mcnabb trade #### started because of the crap ### sports radio in this city & the thousands of sheep that followed kept pounding at it.

 

[ReggieHammond]

The Eagles would have to be stupid to trade him for a third because if he leaves in free agency they will get third round comp for him anyways same thing with whatever team trades for him. If the Raiders give a pick for McNabb and he walks they still get a 3rd round comp the following year.

I'm not sure about that, im pretty sure there is an age limit for comp picks which is in the early 30's. Mcnabb will be 34 after next season so he will probably be too old 4 compensation.

 

[theglorydays]

I'm hoping the Bills offer pick 41 and be done with it. If there is a bidding war, i'd be willing to part ways with 41 and donte whitner.

 

[Bob Magaw]

First let me preface this by saying I haven't read any posts in this thread, so forgive me if this has been mentioned. I was just listening to John Clayton and he said the Eagles misjudged the market, and since teams like Cleveland, Seattle, and Arizona have already made their play for a QB, and the Rams don't really want an aging QB, the market for McNabb is only a 3rd rounder. Yes, he's worth more, but it's about what the market is, not how good McNabb is. He's probably worth more to the Eagles not to trade him than settle for a 3rd rounder.

this has a ring of truth...the funny thing is, what if PHI had INTENDED to move mcnabb & install kolb, but instead keep him in 2010, and than he throws for 5,000 yards, 40 TDs and wins the super bowl...

 

[massraider]

Mayock was just on NFL Network saying how disgusted he was that he even had to talk about this. That it's a non story and everyone is out of their gourds thinking a deal gets done unless a team is willing to rent McNabb for a season.

Has Mayock heard of the Oakland Raiders?

 

[delusional]

even if this trade rumor crap is more then rumors, they will def look for more then a 3rd.

if they cant get more then a 3, they keep him n trade kolb

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

even if this trade rumor crap is more then rumors, they will def look for more then a 3rd.if they cant get more then a 3, they keep him n trade kolb

I don't think they'll trade Kolb, then in 2 years they'll go from having 3 QB to having nobody. I wouldn't trade McNabb for a 3rd either, I'd just keep him and roll with both. If teams can't or won't part with at least a 2nd round pick for what McNabb brings to the table at QB then let them suffer with who they have currently.Minnesota must be pretty sure Farve is coming back to Minnesota. How does a team who's built to win the SB now give a 2nd round pick for a guy like McNabb unless they feel Farve's coming back.

 

[Billy Bats]

i agree with mayock, i think all this mcnabb trade #### started because of the crap ### sports radio in this city & the thousands of sheep that followed kept pounding at it.

Sure, because Andy Reid and Eagles management always do what 610 wants them to do.

 

[Birdie048]

The best summary I heard was on NFL Network Mike Mayock last night (Thur 3/26) regarding the idea that McNabb will NOT be traded.

McNabb has 1 year left on his current contract and he has stated he wants to stay in Philly

If a team is willing to part with that ever draft pick package the Eagles FO want for McNabb, McNabb has to agree to a new deal for any team willing to trade with Philly for him - if he don't like 'em, he don't have to deal with 'em @ new contract.... McNabb has the control over where he goes.

Mayock stated that McNabb would not want to go to StL since their OL would not keep him healthy. He does not see other teams making an effort to pursue McNabb since McNabb is going to be selective of who he plays for.

Thus, McNabb will finish play in Philly this coming season and then be a UFA. He can then decide on his own where he wants to go and not be a puppet on a string.

 

[Crippler]

I'm hoping the Bills offer pick 41 and be done with it. If there is a bidding war, i'd be willing to part ways with 41 and donte whitner.

Do you really think McNabb will help this team to the promise land in the end. I think they are better off keeping the pick in the end and having a crap year this year and get one of the 3 nice looking QB's from next years draft. Build that OL this year. McNabb is not going to sign an extension with any team other than Arizona or Minnesota in the end. A year from now he can see that Leinart might suck and that Brett will finally retire and he might have his choice of a prime job where he will be paid no matter what. And why I agree with Mayock's thought process. So are you giving up pick 41 for one year of McNabb. Even though I dont see him leading the Bills to the playoffs in the next 3 to 4 years in the end. Waste of pick and money in the end for any team that has struggled lately.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Because McNabb isn't going to sign an extension when he will have his pick of situations in 2011. Now to Mayock's point, I think he's being a bit dogmatic. I think McNabb would sign an extension with a number of teams, I'm just not sure any of those mentioned fit that bill. I really can't see him signing with Oakland, Buffalo, St. Louis or Seattle without a ridiculously over-the-top contract offer.

With the possibility of a missed year in 2011, you don't think McNabb will want to be under contract for that year?

 

[Slider]

The best summary I heard was on NFL Network Mike Mayock last night (Thur 3/26) regarding the idea that McNabb will NOT be traded. McNabb has 1 year left on his current contract and he has stated he wants to stay in PhillyIf a team is willing to part with that ever draft pick package the Eagles FO want for McNabb, McNabb has to agree to a new deal for any team willing to trade with Philly for him - if he don't like 'em, he don't have to deal with 'em @ new contract.... McNabb has the control over where he goes. Mayock stated that McNabb would not want to go to StL since their OL would not keep him healthy. He does not see other teams making an effort to pursue McNabb since McNabb is going to be selective of who he plays for. Thus, McNabb will finish play in Philly this coming season and then be a UFA. He can then decide on his own where he wants to go and not be a puppet on a string.

That's ridiculous. No QB wants to play with a one year deal. If he tears up a knee his career is over. I'm sure he'll get traded or start whining for an extension.

 

[Jason Wood]

Because McNabb isn't going to sign an extension when he will have his pick of situations in 2011. Now to Mayock's point, I think he's being a bit dogmatic. I think McNabb would sign an extension with a number of teams, I'm just not sure any of those mentioned fit that bill. I really can't see him signing with Oakland, Buffalo, St. Louis or Seattle without a ridiculously over-the-top contract offer.

With the possibility of a missed year in 2011, you don't think McNabb will want to be under contract for that year?

As I said, I think Mayock is being dogmatic. But I also think Donovan wouldn't sign with any team, and I'm sure his agent will make ridiculous demands to whatever team inquires about him. If a crazy owner like Davis bit on a contract that no one else could imagine, MAYBE something would happen. But I don't like betting on long shots; I would react to that once I see it happen.As to the playing under a one-year contract, again, McNabb IS playing under a one-year contract right now. As is Kolb. As is Vick. And for all the sturm und drang this offseason, McNabb hasn't once opened his mouth publicly to express anger or disappointment in his contract. He could've EASILY forced Philly's hand by complaining about the need for an extension, but he hasn't. I don't think there's any question that McNabb very much wants to remain an Eagle and, as such, he's smart enough to make sure he and his agent do absolutely nothing to help facilitate a trade. If it become an eventuality, as some think is the case, then I also think he's smart enough to sign a big extension if a team is offering it AND it's not a franchise he feels is incapable of winning.I personally would sign an extension with STL, or ARZ, or even CLE now that Holmgren is on board. But there's no way I can see him signing a deal with Oakland or Buffalo. I don't see either franchise in functional enough shape to build a contender around him quickly.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I'm hoping the Bills offer pick 41 and be done with it. If there is a bidding war, i'd be willing to part ways with 41 and donte whitner.

I don't think Buffalo could make a worse decision than that and I like McNabb. Behind that o-line and with very medicore WRs outside of Lee Evans what's the best that McNabb could do for this team? 8-8.Buffalo has an under-rated defense (but is well below average v. the run). They have three very tough teams in thei own division, they can not afford to throw away draft picks on a 34 year old QB that isn't the answer to their season. If they wanted a stop gap QB they are better off giving a very low pick for Vick.I know this is the NFL and anything can happen, but the Bills likely dod not even make the playoffs even with the serious improvement McNabb would bring to tehir QB situation.

 

[Zoomanji]

I'm hoping the Bills offer pick 41 and be done with it. If there is a bidding war, i'd be willing to part ways with 41 and donte whitner.

You keep posting this but I'm not sure why.Whitner is worthless, the Eagles won't want. Jeez he was benched by the Bills.Second, Ralph will never pay McNabb.

 

[drdgreenlove]

The Raiders should trade for him.. but wont because Al Davis is dumb.

They could cut Russell, and save $20 million in future salary (only $3 million in 2010 is guaranteed)

Trade for McNabb and sign him to a 3 year extension for 25 million.... arrange it to have a signing bonus so if there is a cap in the future, the cap hit for cutting McNabb in 3-4 years wouldnt be that bad,

Russell is a waste of money .. why not use the same $ for McNabb and assure a better season?

Raiders 2nd roudner for McNabb. done.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Russel...he-Raiders.html

 

[Jason Wood]

The Raiders should trade for him.. but wont because Al Davis is dumb.

They could cut Russell, and save $20 million in future salary (only $3 million in 2010 is guaranteed)

Trade for McNabb and sign him to a 3 year extension for 25 million.... arrange it to have a signing bonus so if there is a cap in the future, the cap hit for cutting McNabb in 3-4 years wouldnt be that bad,

Russell is a waste of money .. why not use the same $ for McNabb and assure a better season?

Raiders 2nd roudner for McNabb. done.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Russel...he-Raiders.html

Why on Earth would McNabb sign with the Raiders for $25mm over 3 years?

 

[drdgreenlove]

The Raiders should trade for him.. but wont because Al Davis is dumb.

They could cut Russell, and save $20 million in future salary (only $3 million in 2010 is guaranteed)

Trade for McNabb and sign him to a 3 year extension for 25 million.... arrange it to have a signing bonus so if there is a cap in the future, the cap hit for cutting McNabb in 3-4 years wouldnt be that bad,

Russell is a waste of money .. why not use the same $ for McNabb and assure a better season?

Raiders 2nd roudner for McNabb. done.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Russel...he-Raiders.html

Why on Earth would McNabb sign with the Raiders for $25mm over 3 years?

why are you confused? and maybe they give him $30 or $35 million.. (I'm just guessing what they would give.. but they could give more.. I was starting off the $20 million they save by getting rid of Russell)Why would he sign with the Raiders? Becasue they would want to pay him. Assuming there is a lockout, do you see any team paying him huge $$ at age 35 after a one year "layoff"? Do you think the owners are going to spend a lot next season?

It will come down to this.. McNabb will realize his best chance to get paid is now. So in the end, he will go to whomever pays him $$ for a long term deal. or else, he may be getting Duante Culpepper money in 2011

If he is stubborn and forces the Eagles to keep him because he wont negotiate with the new team, his value will go down. Any hint of poor play will get him benched, and then he hits free agency as a backup. And if he gets hurt without a long term deal, that too is a big problem

 

[B. Nugget]

The Raiders should trade for him.. but wont because Al Davis is dumb.

They could cut Russell, and save $20 million in future salary (only $3 million in 2010 is guaranteed)

Trade for McNabb and sign him to a 3 year extension for 25 million.... arrange it to have a signing bonus so if there is a cap in the future, the cap hit for cutting McNabb in 3-4 years wouldnt be that bad,

Russell is a waste of money .. why not use the same $ for McNabb and assure a better season?

Raiders 2nd roudner for McNabb. done.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Russel...he-Raiders.html

Why on Earth would McNabb sign with the Raiders for $25mm over 3 years?

Because he is an over-rated 34 yr old QB that thinks he has some bargaining power? I'd say let him play out his contract in Philly, but as the back up to your new QB, Mr. Kolb.

It appears to me as an outsider that you are so blinded by your love for McNabb that you can't see that you have a chance to build something special for 2011 (and beyond) with your core group of young skill players if you fix the defense. A top 42 pick would help build the foundation of a young defense.

I don't even like Philly, but there is no way I would want my team to go into the season with a lame duck QB while you have a chance to see what you have in a guy you've been grooming to take over just sitting there waiting to be found. If he flops, you at least know that before you go out and draft the next QB and have to pay to found out what he can do.

 

[Snotbubbles]

The Raiders should trade for him.. but wont because Al Davis is dumb.

They could cut Russell, and save $20 million in future salary (only $3 million in 2010 is guaranteed)

Trade for McNabb and sign him to a 3 year extension for 25 million.... arrange it to have a signing bonus so if there is a cap in the future, the cap hit for cutting McNabb in 3-4 years wouldnt be that bad,

Russell is a waste of money .. why not use the same $ for McNabb and assure a better season?

Raiders 2nd roudner for McNabb. done.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Russel...he-Raiders.html

Why on Earth would McNabb sign with the Raiders for $25mm over 3 years?

Derek Anderson just signed a two-year deal that with incentives could reach 18.25 million. McNabb's gonna sign for less then that? A three year deal for McNabb would be in the 30-40 million range at a minimum.Because he is an over-rated 34 yr old QB that thinks he has some bargaining power?

I'd say let him play out his contract in Philly, but as the back up to your new QB, Mr. Kolb.

It appears to me as an outsider that you are so blinded by your love for McNabb that you can't see that you have a chance to build something special for 2011 (and beyond) with your core group of young skill players if you fix the defense. A top 42 pick would help build the foundation of a young defense.

I don't even like Philly, but there is no way I would want my team to go into the season with a lame duck QB while you have a chance to see what you have in a guy you've been grooming to take over just sitting there waiting to be found. If he flops, you at least know that before you go out and draft the next QB and have to pay to found out what he can do.

 

[drdgreenlove]

The Raiders should trade for him.. but wont because Al Davis is dumb.

They could cut Russell, and save $20 million in future salary (only $3 million in 2010 is guaranteed)

Trade for McNabb and sign him to a 3 year extension for 25 million.... arrange it to have a signing bonus so if there is a cap in the future, the cap hit for cutting McNabb in 3-4 years wouldnt be that bad,

Russell is a waste of money .. why not use the same $ for McNabb and assure a better season?

Raiders 2nd roudner for McNabb. done.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Russel...he-Raiders.html

Why on Earth would McNabb sign with the Raiders for $25mm over 3 years?

Derek Anderson just signed a two-year deal that with incentives could reach 18.25 million. McNabb's gonna sign for less then that? A three year deal for McNabb would be in the 30-40 million range at a minimum.Because he is an over-rated 34 yr old QB that thinks he has some bargaining power?

I'd say let him play out his contract in Philly, but as the back up to your new QB, Mr. Kolb.

It appears to me as an outsider that you are so blinded by your love for McNabb that you can't see that you have a chance to build something special for 2011 (and beyond) with your core group of young skill players if you fix the defense. A top 42 pick would help build the foundation of a young defense.

I don't even like Philly, but there is no way I would want my team to go into the season with a lame duck QB while you have a chance to see what you have in a guy you've been grooming to take over just sitting there waiting to be found. If he flops, you at least know that before you go out and draft the next QB and have to pay to found out what he can do.

McNabb already has a salary of 12 million next year counting his bonus. this is an extension (different from D.A.) I have no clue about how much it would cost to sign him.. my point is McNabb>>>>>>>Russell. The Raiders would be better off savong $20 million on Russell. using it towards McNabb and moving on

 

[domvin]

I wonder if the Bears are kicking themselves here? Native Son returns home, for a 3rd rounder has a less expensive sparkle than the comp paid for Cutty.

Still think the bears got a good deal on cutty, but maybe could have snagged an even better deal with McNabbs tenuous situation

 

[DynastyFantasyFan]

This has not been verified, but a trusted source of a Philadelphia radio host on 97.5 says McNabb has been traded to St Louis for the 33rd pick in the 2010 draft. This is not in stone and could be completely b.s. But do with it what you will.

Even if it's not true there will be no surprise when McNabb is traded. He's been a solid qb for a long time but qb transition usually works better when you as a coach/GM instigate it with talent in the wings. Kolb isn't proven but he proved he can be productive over a short span of time and he now has several years in the system. I'm betting that he proves to be Philly's Aaron Rodgers. May not win as many games but will be a productive fantasy player.

 

[Donsmith753]

Just saw this on NFL.com. I know any poll conducted there is generally pointless but it seems that there are more McNabb fans out there than I thought.

Who should be the starting QB for the Eagles in 2010?

48%

Donovan McNabb

24%

Michael Vick

28%

Kevin Kolb

Total Votes: 184503

 

[Chunky Soup]

Just saw this on NFL.com. I know any poll conducted there is generally pointless but it seems that there are more McNabb fans Cowboys+Giants fans out there than I thought.

Who should be the starting QB for the Eagles in 2010?

48%

Donovan McNabb

24%

Michael Vick

28%

Kevin Kolb

Total Votes: 184503

Fixed. Yes, our competition IMO would love to see us continue to stagnate/fall.

 

[Young 8]

Just saw this on NFL.com. I know any poll conducted there is generally pointless but it seems that there are more McNabb fans out there than I thought.

Who should be the starting QB for the Eagles in 2010?

48%

Donovan McNabb

24%

Michael Vick

28%

Kevin Kolb

Total Votes: 184503

wow

 

[unckeyherb]

Just saw this on NFL.com. I know any poll conducted there is generally pointless but it seems that there are more McNabb fans Cowboys+Giants fans out there than I thought.

Who should be the starting QB for the Eagles in 2010?

48%

Donovan McNabb

24%

Michael Vick

28%

Kevin Kolb

Total Votes: 184503

Fixed. Yes, our competition IMO would love to see us continue to stagnate/fall.

Doubtful. Over the last decade, McNabb has OWNED NFC East. Ask most Giants/Redskins/Cowboys fans and they'll tell you that they can't wait for the day that mcNabb is out of here. I've said it many times, the fans that are in support of McNabb leaving are a very vocal minority, hence, the high percentage of supporters for McNabb is probably accurate.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Just saw this on NFL.com. I know any poll conducted there is generally pointless but it seems that there are more McNabb fans Cowboys+Giants fans out there than I thought.

Who should be the starting QB for the Eagles in 2010?

48%

Donovan McNabb

24%

Michael Vick

28%

Kevin Kolb

Total Votes: 184503

Fixed. Yes, our competition IMO would love to see us continue to stagnate/fall.

Doubtful. Over the last decade, McNabb has OWNED NFC East. Ask most Giants/Redskins/Cowboys fans and they'll tell you that they can't wait for the day that mcNabb is out of here. I've said it many times, the fans that are in support of McNabb leaving are a very vocal minority, hence, the high percentage of supporters for McNabb is probably accurate.

Part of the McNabb leaving minority is the Philadelphia Eagles front office. If they really wanted to keep McNabb, he would already have an extension.

 

[unckeyherb]

Just saw this on NFL.com. I know any poll conducted there is generally pointless but it seems that there are more McNabb fans Cowboys+Giants fans out there than I thought.

Who should be the starting QB for the Eagles in 2010?

48%

Donovan McNabb

24%

Michael Vick

28%

Kevin Kolb

Total Votes: 184503

Fixed. Yes, our competition IMO would love to see us continue to stagnate/fall.

Doubtful. Over the last decade, McNabb has OWNED NFC East. Ask most Giants/Redskins/Cowboys fans and they'll tell you that they can't wait for the day that mcNabb is out of here. I've said it many times, the fans that are in support of McNabb leaving are a very vocal minority, hence, the high percentage of supporters for McNabb is probably accurate.

Part of the McNabb leaving minority is the Philadelphia Eagles front office. If they really wanted to keep McNabb, he would already have an extension.

ugh. This is all Missinelli would say yesterday. I think that is VASTLY oversimplifying things. There are a lot of variables involved in this situation and to boil it down to "well the FO hasn't extended him so they want him gone" is not accurate. Even if everyone wants him back, they know that he only has 2-3 more years left in the tank. They also know that at some point Kolb is the guy to take over. If they extended mcNabb, how do you think Kolb would react? His contract is just as much over this year as mcNabb. This is a touchy situation that they need to handle with kid gloves. Thats before you throw in Vick.

The situation they are in has a lot of pros and a lot of cons. The fact that they haven't extended him (or Kolb) tells me that they are a savvy organization that is keeping all their options open for as long as possible. It doesn't tell me that they are convinced McNabb is done.

 

[Birdie048]

How much of this is media over blowing the situation?? With every move monitored and every whisper caught on audio some where, there are no sectrets any more....

NFL Network said Andy Reid was misquoted. He did NOT say he was "entertaining offers"..... it was that he actually said he was "ENTERTAINED BY offers", with a smile and a chuckle following it.

Big difference.... we all know the Eagles have a QB issue with all 3 on their final year of contract and that something has to change. Who will be under center come week 1 at the start of the 2010 season is YTD.

IMO, McNabb takes a deal with a less than playoff caliber team (like Clev or SF). He might feel he can get them over the hump into the playoffs, but without other key pieces of the puzzle, all he is doing is filling seats in the stadium for the owner to keep things profitable.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I'm hoping the Bills offer pick 41 and be done with it. If there is a bidding war, i'd be willing to part ways with 41 and donte whitner.

Do you really think McNabb will help this team to the promise land in the end. I think they are better off keeping the pick in the end and having a crap year this year and get one of the 3 nice looking QB's from next years draft. Build that OL this year. McNabb is not going to sign an extension with any team other than Arizona or Minnesota in the end. A year from now he can see that Leinart might suck and that Brett will finally retire and he might have his choice of a prime job where he will be paid no matter what. And why I agree with Mayock's thought process. So are you giving up pick 41 for one year of McNabb. Even though I dont see him leading the Bills to the playoffs in the next 3 to 4 years in the end. Waste of pick and money in the end for any team that has struggled lately.

This is my thinking, too. I have absolutely no interest in McNabb and I would be very displeased if the Bills spent a prime draft pick on him.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports the Oakland Raiders are willing to part with CB Nnamdi Asomugha in a possible deal for Philadelphia Eagles QB Donovan McNabb, but the Eagles have been reluctant.

 

[Domination]

Just saw this on NFL.com. I know any poll conducted there is generally pointless but it seems that there are more McNabb fans Cowboys+Giants fans out there than I thought.

Who should be the starting QB for the Eagles in 2010?

48%

Donovan McNabb

24%

Michael Vick

28%

Kevin Kolb

Total Votes: 184503

Fixed. Yes, our competition IMO would love to see us continue to stagnate/fall.

Doubtful. Over the last decade, McNabb has OWNED NFC East. Ask most Giants/Redskins/Cowboys fans and they'll tell you that they can't wait for the day that mcNabb is out of here. I've said it many times, the fans that are in support of McNabb leaving are a very vocal minority, hence, the high percentage of supporters for McNabb is probably accurate.

McNabb used to own the NFC East. His record for his career is 36-23 .610. But the more telling fact to me, is what is his record over the last 5 years. The answer to that is 13-14 .480.To me it does not really matter what a guy did more than 5 years ago, it is all about what have you done for me lately. If you are going to look at body of work over the last 10 years, the B West, Dawkins, Lito, and numerous others would still be on the team.

In, case you missed this, I think it sums up the opinion of alot of Eagles fans....

It basically comes down to fantasy football vs. NFL football. McNabb puts up great stats but fails to win clutch games. FF fans don't really care about wins - they just want the production, which is what most fans see. Under Reid, that's what you get in a pass-happy offense - big numbers.

The bottom line of that table just shows how non-clutch McNabb is, and that's why so many want him gone. He's had ample chances and I think the time is right to ship him out, and I am a fan of McNabb. He's done quite a bit for the Eagles since he's been here, but it is time to turn the page.

 

[munchkin]

Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports the Oakland Raiders are willing to part with CB Nnamdi Asomugha in a possible deal for Philadelphia Eagles QB Donovan McNabb, but the Eagles have been reluctant.

Asomugha has a pretty hefty contract. I saw Samuel as being part of the deal too. Seymour and Samuel on the same team again; how nice.

 

[identikit]

McNabb mess only gets messier

Posted by Mike Florio on March 26, 2010 2:22 PM ET

With the Raiders and the Bills believed to be exploring the possibility of trading for Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb, there's suddenly a catch.

McNabb told coach Andy Reid on Thursday that McNabb prefers staying in Philly to playing for Oakland or Buffalo, according to Adam Schefter of ESPN.

Of course, McNabb ultimately doesn't have any say in whether he's traded. But it's one thing for the Raiders to trade for defensive end Richard Seymour when Seymour didn't want to be a Raider; it's quite another to make a trade for a reluctant quarterback.

That said, ESPN's Sal Paolantonio points out that the Eagles might have no choice but to move McNabb. Paolantonio reports that league sources believe the Eagles wanted too much for McNabb, that several interested teams have moved on, and that no one currently is willing to give up more than a third-round draft pick.

But, per Paolantonio, the Eagles have concluded that a decision must be made soon. If the situation lingers, it will be impossible for McNabb to return as the starter in 2010.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...y-gets-messier/

 

[Snotbubbles]

ugh. This is all Missinelli would say yesterday. I think that is VASTLY oversimplifying things. There are a lot of variables involved in this situation and to boil it down to "well the FO hasn't extended him so they want him gone" is not accurate. Even if everyone wants him back, they know that he only has 2-3 more years left in the tank. They also know that at some point Kolb is the guy to take over. If they extended mcNabb, how do you think Kolb would react? His contract is just as much over this year as mcNabb. This is a touchy situation that they need to handle with kid gloves. Thats before you throw in Vick.The situation they are in has a lot of pros and a lot of cons. The fact that they haven't extended him (or Kolb) tells me that they are a savvy organization that is keeping all their options open for as long as possible. It doesn't tell me that they are convinced McNabb is done.

Kolb will be a RFA after this year so he isn't going anywhere. The Eagles can just tender him. If the Eagles felt that McNabb only had 2-3 years left they would have extended him last year and dealt with this in 2012 instead of now. They haven't extended McNabb because they want to move on and they haven't extended Kolb because they don't have to (see his RFA status). Vick is here purely as a backup.

 

[unckeyherb]

In, case you missed this, I think it sums up the opinion of alot of Eagles fans....

It basically comes down to fantasy football vs. NFL football. McNabb puts up great stats but fails to win clutch games. FF fans don't really care about wins - they just want the production, which is what most fans see. Under Reid, that's what you get in a pass-happy offense - big numbers.The bottom line of that table just shows how non-clutch McNabb is, and that's why so many want him gone. He's had ample chances and I think the time is right to ship him out, and I am a fan of McNabb. He's done quite a bit for the Eagles since he's been here, but it is time to turn the page.

No I get that. I am fully aware that the perception by many is that he chokes in big games. I guess my question would be, what consititutes a "clutch game"? Are clutch games only defined as playoff games that the Eagles have lost? What about all the games that he's won to GET to the playoffs? Or the myriad first round playoff games that they've won? Were those not clutch games? Or is this where someone swoops in with the ole' Defense won those games' claim?Look, I understand the feeling that he has gotten us as far as he can. I disagree and will be sorry to see him go. I get it from a business standpoint, get what you can for the best value when you can get it. I agree with all of that. Doesn't mean I have to like it.

 

[delusional]

Just saw this on NFL.com. I know any poll conducted there is generally pointless but it seems that there are more McNabb fans Cowboys+Giants fans out there than I thought.

Who should be the starting QB for the Eagles in 2010?

48%

Donovan McNabb

24%

Michael Vick

28%

Kevin Kolb

Total Votes: 184503

Fixed. Yes, our competition IMO would love to see us continue to stagnate/fall.

Doubtful. Over the last decade, McNabb has OWNED NFC East. Ask most Giants/Redskins/Cowboys fans and they'll tell you that they can't wait for the day that mcNabb is out of here. I've said it many times, the fans that are in support of McNabb leaving are a very vocal minority, hence, the high percentage of supporters for McNabb is probably accurate.

McNabb used to own the NFC East. His record for his career is 36-23 .610. But the more telling fact to me, is what is his record over the last 5 years. The answer to that is 13-14 .480.To me it does not really matter what a guy did more than 5 years ago, it is all about what have you done for me lately. If you are going to look at body of work over the last 10 years, the B West, Dawkins, Lito, and numerous others would still be on the team.

In, case you missed this, I think it sums up the opinion of alot of Eagles fans....

It basically comes down to fantasy football vs. NFL football. McNabb puts up great stats but fails to win clutch games. FF fans don't really care about wins - they just want the production, which is what most fans see. Under Reid, that's what you get in a pass-happy offense - big numbers.

The bottom line of that table just shows how non-clutch McNabb is, and that's why so many want him gone. He's had ample chances and I think the time is right to ship him out, and I am a fan of McNabb. He's done quite a bit for the Eagles since he's been here, but it is time to turn the page.

Sure Reid gets none of the blame here. The poor coaching the last few seasons ( yes it has been down right horrid at more frequent times lately ) gets a complete pass. Its all McNabbs fault. Not the drops, not the poor clock management, not the defensive blunders, not the shoddy play calling etc etcMcNabb isn't the coach. He doesn't set the game plans, he doesnt play defense, he doesnt set the progression. He is just a pawn in the game like every other player on the field. For as much as people want McNabb gone...to go with an unkwown in Kolb just because he was a draft day blunder ( high reach ) is absurd. You should want Reid gone as much, if not more then McNabb because he is the guy running the ship.

This offseason is just showing how bad the front office is screwing up again. Each day that passes they are going to get less and less value for McNabb & slightly less value for Kolb.

Hooray! We have 3 starting QBs...which would be fine and dandy if there were 3 QB positions on the field at the same time but it isn't.

Reid shuold not have gotten the HC extension but he did. So he has 3 years to do something. Do you go with a 27yr old unknown in Kolb or stick with McNabb so he finishes his career out in 3 years & draft a replacement in the next 2 seasons. A replacement that should be picked by the next head coach in line.

This team is going to get crap now for McNabb & Kolb if they keep delaying things. If they go into the season with both still here, it has been a complete failure. Best they can hope for is a comp pick for McNabb if they don't extend him & hope to go Kolb agrees to a contract. Which honestly, I wouldn't & would test the FA market.

 

[Domination]

Sure Reid gets none of the blame here. The poor coaching the last few seasons ( yes it has been down right horrid at more frequent times lately ) gets a complete pass. Its all McNabbs fault. Not the drops, not the poor clock management, not the defensive blunders, not the shoddy play calling etc etcMcNabb isn't the coach. He doesn't set the game plans, he doesnt play defense, he doesnt set the progression. He is just a pawn in the game like every other player on the field. For as much as people want McNabb gone...to go with an unkwown in Kolb just because he was a draft day blunder ( high reach ) is absurd. You should want Reid gone as much, if not more then McNabb because he is the guy running the ship.This offseason is just showing how bad the front office is screwing up again. Each day that passes they are going to get less and less value for McNabb & slightly less value for Kolb. Hooray! We have 3 starting QBs...which would be fine and dandy if there were 3 QB positions on the field at the same time but it isn't. Reid shuold not have gotten the HC extension but he did. So he has 3 years to do something. Do you go with a 27yr old unknown in Kolb or stick with McNabb so he finishes his career out in 3 years & draft a replacement in the next 2 seasons. A replacement that should be picked by the next head coach in line.This team is going to get crap now for McNabb & Kolb if they keep delaying things. If they go into the season with both still here, it has been a complete failure. Best they can hope for is a comp pick for McNabb if they don't extend him & hope to go Kolb agrees to a contract. Which honestly, I wouldn't & would test the FA market.

I believe that most Eagles fans would be happy to get rid of Reid, and I think he recieves alot of blame. The difference is, that we are stuck with Reid, and have the possibility of moving on from McNabb.

 

[delusional]

Sure Reid gets none of the blame here. The poor coaching the last few seasons ( yes it has been down right horrid at more frequent times lately ) gets a complete pass. Its all McNabbs fault. Not the drops, not the poor clock management, not the defensive blunders, not the shoddy play calling etc etcMcNabb isn't the coach. He doesn't set the game plans, he doesnt play defense, he doesnt set the progression. He is just a pawn in the game like every other player on the field. For as much as people want McNabb gone...to go with an unkwown in Kolb just because he was a draft day blunder ( high reach ) is absurd. You should want Reid gone as much, if not more then McNabb because he is the guy running the ship.This offseason is just showing how bad the front office is screwing up again. Each day that passes they are going to get less and less value for McNabb & slightly less value for Kolb. Hooray! We have 3 starting QBs...which would be fine and dandy if there were 3 QB positions on the field at the same time but it isn't. Reid shuold not have gotten the HC extension but he did. So he has 3 years to do something. Do you go with a 27yr old unknown in Kolb or stick with McNabb so he finishes his career out in 3 years & draft a replacement in the next 2 seasons. A replacement that should be picked by the next head coach in line.This team is going to get crap now for McNabb & Kolb if they keep delaying things. If they go into the season with both still here, it has been a complete failure. Best they can hope for is a comp pick for McNabb if they don't extend him & hope to go Kolb agrees to a contract. Which honestly, I wouldn't & would test the FA market.

I believe that most Eagles fans would be happy to get rid of Reid, and I think he recieves alot of blame. The difference is, that we are stuck with Reid, and have the possibility of moving on from McNabb.

Thats the thing. I don't think he gets any of the blame. McNabb has gotten to the status of schmidt, iverson, rolens, barkley, etc by the media/sheep fans. In a way i hope McNabb goes to a team that can use him the right way. I would love to see what he could do in a system that caters to his play & not in a system that caters to his weaknesses

 

[Billy Bats]

Sure Reid gets none of the blame here. The poor coaching the last few seasons ( yes it has been down right horrid at more frequent times lately ) gets a complete pass. Its all McNabbs fault. Not the drops, not the poor clock management, not the defensive blunders, not the shoddy play calling etc etcMcNabb isn't the coach. He doesn't set the game plans, he doesnt play defense, he doesnt set the progression. He is just a pawn in the game like every other player on the field. For as much as people want McNabb gone...to go with an unkwown in Kolb just because he was a draft day blunder ( high reach ) is absurd. You should want Reid gone as much, if not more then McNabb because he is the guy running the ship.This offseason is just showing how bad the front office is screwing up again. Each day that passes they are going to get less and less value for McNabb & slightly less value for Kolb. Hooray! We have 3 starting QBs...which would be fine and dandy if there were 3 QB positions on the field at the same time but it isn't. Reid shuold not have gotten the HC extension but he did. So he has 3 years to do something. Do you go with a 27yr old unknown in Kolb or stick with McNabb so he finishes his career out in 3 years & draft a replacement in the next 2 seasons. A replacement that should be picked by the next head coach in line.This team is going to get crap now for McNabb & Kolb if they keep delaying things. If they go into the season with both still here, it has been a complete failure. Best they can hope for is a comp pick for McNabb if they don't extend him & hope to go Kolb agrees to a contract. Which honestly, I wouldn't & would test the FA market.

I believe that most Eagles fans would be happy to get rid of Reid, and I think he recieves alot of blame. The difference is, that we are stuck with Reid, and have the possibility of moving on from McNabb.

Unfortunately we can't trade Reid. And I'm sure someone from Butt####, Nowhere, USA will tell me I'll be sorry when Reid's gone too.

 

[Nagle2998]

The Eagles would have to be stupid to trade him for a third because if he leaves in free agency they will get third round comp for him anyways same thing with whatever team trades for him. If the Raiders give a pick for McNabb and he walks they still get a 3rd round comp the following year.

I'm not sure about that, im pretty sure there is an age limit for comp picks which is in the early 30's. Mcnabb will be 34 after next season so he will probably be too old 4 compensation.

The three factors that make up a comp pick are playing time, money and playing in the playoffs is what I have heard never heard anything about age before.

 

[Matt's Eagles]

Sources tell Yahoo's Charles Robinson that the Raiders are "in front right now" in the pursuit of Donovan McNabb.

NFL Network's Jason La Canfora also believes that Oakland is the favorite to land McNabb. "And I'm told they will NOT require an extension to get a deal done," Robinson adds. The Raiders were swindled for a future first-round pick by New England in last summer's Richard Seymour deal, with Seymour in a contract year. McNabb is also in the last year of his deal. We'd say Al Davis wouldn't make the same mistake again...but these are the Raiders. Mar. 26 - 4:02 pm et

Source: Charles Robinson on Twitter

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/HeadLines...L&hl=170530

 

[theglorydays]

I'm hoping the Bills offer pick 41 and be done with it. If there is a bidding war, i'd be willing to part ways with 41 and donte whitner.

Do you really think McNabb will help this team to the promise land in the end. I think they are better off keeping the pick in the end and having a crap year this year and get one of the 3 nice looking QB's from next years draft. Build that OL this year. McNabb is not going to sign an extension with any team other than Arizona or Minnesota in the end. A year from now he can see that Leinart might suck and that Brett will finally retire and he might have his choice of a prime job where he will be paid no matter what. And why I agree with Mayock's thought process. So are you giving up pick 41 for one year of McNabb. Even though I dont see him leading the Bills to the playoffs in the next 3 to 4 years in the end. Waste of pick and money in the end for any team that has struggled lately.

Obviously the only way i'd do the trade is if he agreed to an extension.

 

[Snotbubbles]

I'm hoping the Bills offer pick 41 and be done with it. If there is a bidding war, i'd be willing to part ways with 41 and donte whitner.

Do you really think McNabb will help this team to the promise land in the end. I think they are better off keeping the pick in the end and having a crap year this year and get one of the 3 nice looking QB's from next years draft. Build that OL this year. McNabb is not going to sign an extension with any team other than Arizona or Minnesota in the end. A year from now he can see that Leinart might suck and that Brett will finally retire and he might have his choice of a prime job where he will be paid no matter what. And why I agree with Mayock's thought process. So are you giving up pick 41 for one year of McNabb. Even though I dont see him leading the Bills to the playoffs in the next 3 to 4 years in the end. Waste of pick and money in the end for any team that has struggled lately.

Obviously the only way i'd do the trade is if he agreed to an extension.

If he signs an extension he would be worth trading a pick for.I just look at some of the turnarounds by bad teams when they add a QB:Atlanta, 4-12, add Matt Ryan and go 11-5.Baltimore, 5-11 add Joe Flacco and go 11-5.NO Saints 3-13, add Drew Brees and go 10-6.NY Jets 4-12, add Brett Favre and go 9-7.

 

[One]

Sources tell Yahoo's Charles Robinson that the Raiders are "in front right now" in the pursuit of Donovan McNabb.

NFL Network's Jason La Canfora also believes that Oakland is the favorite to land McNabb. "And I'm told they will NOT require an extension to get a deal done," Robinson adds. The Raiders were swindled for a future first-round pick by New England in last summer's Richard Seymour deal, with Seymour in a contract year. McNabb is also in the last year of his deal. We'd say Al Davis wouldn't make the same mistake again...but these are the Raiders. Mar. 26 - 4:02 pm et

Source: Charles Robinson on Twitter

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/HeadLines...L&hl=170530

 

[cstu]

ugh. This is all Missinelli would say yesterday. I think that is VASTLY oversimplifying things. There are a lot of variables involved in this situation and to boil it down to "well the FO hasn't extended him so they want him gone" is not accurate. Even if everyone wants him back, they know that he only has 2-3 more years left in the tank. They also know that at some point Kolb is the guy to take over. If they extended mcNabb, how do you think Kolb would react? His contract is just as much over this year as mcNabb. This is a touchy situation that they need to handle with kid gloves. Thats before you throw in Vick.The situation they are in has a lot of pros and a lot of cons. The fact that they haven't extended him (or Kolb) tells me that they are a savvy organization that is keeping all their options open for as long as possible. It doesn't tell me that they are convinced McNabb is done.

Kolb will be a RFA after this year so he isn't going anywhere. The Eagles can just tender him. If the Eagles felt that McNabb only had 2-3 years left they would have extended him last year and dealt with this in 2012 instead of now. They haven't extended McNabb because they want to move on and they haven't extended Kolb because they don't have to (see his RFA status). Vick is here purely as a backup.

Even if the Eagles thought McNabb has 2-3 years left every year they keep him is another year they waste Kolb on the bench and let him get closer to being a UFA.

 

[Buffaloes]

Sources tell Yahoo's Charles Robinson that the Raiders are "in front right now" in the pursuit of Donovan McNabb.

NFL Network's Jason La Canfora also believes that Oakland is the favorite to land McNabb. "And I'm told they will NOT require an extension to get a deal done," Robinson adds. The Raiders were swindled for a future first-round pick by New England in last summer's Richard Seymour deal, with Seymour in a contract year. McNabb is also in the last year of his deal. We'd say Al Davis wouldn't make the same mistake again...but these are the Raiders. Mar. 26 - 4:02 pm et

Source: Charles Robinson on Twitter

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/HeadLines...L&hl=170530

Maybe he's the missing piece to their long awaited Super Bowl run...He'll resign after he hoists the Lombardi

 

[Cassius]

A lot of people keep saying that McNabb only has another 2-3 years in him. This isn't your fantasy dynasty league - 2-3 years is a lifetime in the NFL.

 

[Saint]

To be honest, as a long-term Eagles fan, I have been a long-term critic of McNabb and I would like to see the Birds move in a new direction at QB. Now I know some of you all like McNabb and can talk about his great stats and I will give that his regular season stats do look good, but when it comes time to put up and finish strong, he fails miserably. That's been his story since 1999, so it's not like we are talking new information here. The inconsistencies in the playoffs are absolutely ridiculous.

For you stat mongers, here's the last decade of McNabb in regular season:

Year G Att Comp Pct Pass Yds Pass TD Int Rush Att Rush Yds Rush TD FUM

2009 14 443 267 60.3 3,553 22 10 37 140 2 3

2008 16 571 345 60.4 3,916 23 11 39 147 2 3

2007 14 473 291 61.5 3,324 19 7 50 236 0 3

2006 10 316 180 57 2,647 18 6 32 212 3 2

2005 9 357 211 59.1 2,507 16 9 25 55 1 5

2004 15 469 300 64 3,875 31 8 41 220 3 2

2003 16 478 275 57.5 3,216 16 11 71 355 3 4

2002 10 361 211 58.4 2,289 17 6 63 460 6 1

2001 16 493 285 57.8 3,233 25 12 82 482 2 2

2000 16 569 330 58 3,365 21 13 86 629 6 2

1999 12 216 106 49.1 948 8 7 47 313 0 2

Looks good right? Let's look at the playoff game stats he's been in:

Year G Att Comp Pct Pass Yds Pass TD Int Rush Att Rush Yds Rush TD FUM

2009 1 37 19 51.4 230 1 1 2 13 0

2008 3 121 73 60.3 892 5 4 7 47 1

2004 3 110 68 61.8 823 7 3 14 35 0

2003 2 61 31 50.8 348 2 3 13 117 0

2002 2 79 46 58.2 490 1 1 7 41 0

2001 3 95 60 63.2 627 5 3 16 120 0

2000 2 74 44 59.5 342 3 2 13 49 1

I would argue that his regular season stats are in much better position than his playoff statistics in every year he has ever been in the playoffs. My book, I call this the "CHOKE" effect. His TD/INT ratio is drastically difference... In regular season, he is almost 2:1 ratio in TD/INT. In the playoffs, it's 1.2:1. Almost a 50% difference. Next, in the last five years, he has played all of the games in the season once. Not a good sign for an aging QB. My final stick, is that they have 3 QBs all in the last year of the contract. Do I want to sign a guy that has choked in each of the five playoff seasons?

In all honesty, for the roster salaries, the Eagles don't need to move anyone. They can pick and choose what they want and have 3 solid QBs, with McNabb leading the point. To me the real question is Kolb, is he another Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady biding time on the bench? Can he step up and play. Well, I know the Reid style of WCO made Feely look like an all-pro QB, and in the 2 games Kolb played, he looked pretty good.

My personal thoughts, the Birds have to make a decision on the future, I don't think McNabb is it. I am not saying Kolb or Vick are all that, what I am saying is that I think with a few years under the belt, they might be the ones to get us that SB title. What I do know, is McNabb has shown to me that he cannot win the big games when the tension is on. I've been a fan of this club since the Jaws era and I think it is time to put up or shut up. We drafted Kolb for a reason, I say we give him the time to fly. Personally, I don't think the team will be as diminished as most people are thinking due to the style of offense that is run.

My 2 cents.....