wonderdork
Footballguy
What are the Johnson owners doing this week with him? I know Culpepper can throw the deep ball, but that may be the only positive I can think of this week with him.
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Megatron w/ C Pep throwing (1 Viewer)
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AnonymousBob
Footballguy
Quinn was known to use shorter passing routes. Culpepper is known to throw the ball down the field and get his roll on.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Warriors Forever said:You know everyone thinks Culpepper is going to be great with Calvin Johnson... saying he could do it with Moss and Calvin is a "younger version"??? You realize Culpepper only had 3 good seasons in his entire career:2000: 98.0 PR, 3937 yards, 33 TD, 16 INT2003: 96.4 PR, 3479 yards, 25 TD, 11 INT2004: 110.9 PR, 4717 yards, 39 TD, 11 INTOther than those 3 years, between 2000 and 2007 Culpepper has failed to throw more TD than INT 4 seasons, and one season with just one more TD than INT... so 5 seasons out of 8 he's been just god awful, with a QB rating below 84.Not to mention he's only stayed healthy for a full 16 game season 3 seasons of his 8 career seasonsAt the age of a very old 32 (33 in 2 months), I highly doubt he has the same mobility as he did back in 2000, 2003 and 2004. Therefore, I highly doubt he creates the plays he once could back in MIN. This guy has been out of football for 9 weeks and thinks he can learn an entire offense in 6 days? They don't want to embarrass Stanton, but they have no problem embarrassing Culpepper! Will be a great game to watch for those starting JAX this week!
NeverEnough
Footballguy
This isn't a RB here. QBs can be pretty damn good well into their 30sWarriors Forever said:You know everyone thinks Culpepper is going to be great with Calvin Johnson... saying he could do it with Moss and Calvin is a "younger version"??? You realize Culpepper only had 3 good seasons in his entire career:2000: 98.0 PR, 3937 yards, 33 TD, 16 INT2003: 96.4 PR, 3479 yards, 25 TD, 11 INT2004: 110.9 PR, 4717 yards, 39 TD, 11 INTOther than those 3 years, between 2000 and 2007 Culpepper has failed to throw more TD than INT 4 seasons, and one season with just one more TD than INT... so 5 seasons out of 8 he's been just god awful, with a QB rating below 84.Not to mention he's only stayed healthy for a full 16 game season 3 seasons of his 8 career seasonsAt the age of a very old 32 (33 in 2 months), I highly doubt he has the same mobility as he did back in 2000, 2003 and 2004. Therefore, I highly doubt he creates the plays he once could back in MIN. This guy has been out of football for 9 weeks and thinks he can learn an entire offense in 6 days? They don't want to embarrass Stanton, but they have no problem embarrassing Culpepper! Will be a great game to watch for those starting JAX this week!
BigJim®
Footballguy
Culpepper is 31.
burd
Footballguy
the OP's question was what CJ owners were doing this week w/ Culpepper throwing.
as a CJ owner, im hesitant starting him only because w/ Culpepper barely knowing the offense, i expect A LOT of rushing attempts and minimal passing attempts. I could be wrong, but i think this might be the week to start KSmith and Rudi w/ confidence in that they'll both get a lot of touches ... what they do w/ these extra touches is a whole other topic.
as a CJ owner, im hesitant starting him only because w/ Culpepper barely knowing the offense, i expect A LOT of rushing attempts and minimal passing attempts. I could be wrong, but i think this might be the week to start KSmith and Rudi w/ confidence in that they'll both get a lot of touches ... what they do w/ these extra touches is a whole other topic.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I can see Culpepper digesting maybe 5 passing plays, 8 rushing plays for this week, with WRs int he huddle telling him what routes they are running on anything else. My advice to a Calvin owner- you have to start him. DET will be down and will be passing, therefore he is likely to see lots of targets. JAX D is hardly dominant. You can't rely on Culpepper, but he will complete some passes, he's not going to go 0-30 with 30 picks, though that would be beautiful. I think burd has a good point about rushing, but I think they'll be down to the point where Culpepper tries to chuck it deep. I wouldn't be surprised to see him taken out at halftime IMO. Stanton can't be THAT bad
Lord Fantasy
Footballguy
I can understand your concerns, but he's managed to produce on a train wreck of a team, so why sit him now?
FFdork
Footballguy
I see Culpepper as a push for Calvin this week. On the one hand he can't possibly have taken in more than 25% of the playbook and he's been out of football for a year. On the other, I know he can throw a better deep ball than Orlovsky's ducks that have cheated Calvin out of at least 3-4 TDs in the last few weeks.
Kind of like in the Colston thread, if you have 3 WRs that are more attractive options then kudos to you.
Kind of like in the Colston thread, if you have 3 WRs that are more attractive options then kudos to you.
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War Eagle
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I think Culpepper is a positive factor on CJ.
A. Detroit's defense still blows = lots of passing
B. Culpepper LOVES throwing the deep ball
C. At the very least, CJ will be the #1 red zone option
I'm actually expecting a big week from CJ and Culpepper. They are at home in the dome (Culpepper loves the dome), playing against a suspect Jags defense, but the Jags can run, so it should be a fairly high scoring game.
Not sure on the yardage, but think CJ catches 2 TDs.
A. Detroit's defense still blows = lots of passing
B. Culpepper LOVES throwing the deep ball
C. At the very least, CJ will be the #1 red zone option
I'm actually expecting a big week from CJ and Culpepper. They are at home in the dome (Culpepper loves the dome), playing against a suspect Jags defense, but the Jags can run, so it should be a fairly high scoring game.
Not sure on the yardage, but think CJ catches 2 TDs.
omally
Footballguy
I'm starting Calvin this weekend. He is just too good for me to sit him. Culpepper could be a disaster this weekend, but he could end up doing ok too. He isn't like a rookie being thrown out there, although he will be rusty and not in game shape. I remember last year when Vinny T was called in off the couch to play for the Panthers, and his first week with them he had to start at QB against the Cardinals. He ended up doing pretty good and the Panthers won the game. You just never know, and Calvin is talented enough to help make crappy throws into yards or TD's, and Jacksonville's D has been having problems this season.
chuckmorris
Footballguy
Definitely starting Megatron this week. Seems there's an argument to be made every week for why he should be benched, but he still keeps producing for me, so until he shows me he can't, he's in. When Bush comes back, I might consider using him over Calvin in the flex slot, but that'll probably depend on the matchups more than anything else, as long as Calvin keeps getting the job done.
UncleZen
Footballguy
I would love to see what CJ would/could do on a quality team.
thecardiackid
Footballguy
I made the mistake of out thinking myself last week starting Avery over Calvin @ CHI and won't do it again. Same choice again, and I'm in 
DET should be down early yet again, and while I think the vertical game will suffer since CPepp can't know enough of the playbook yet, Calvin should be good for enough looks to keep up w/ his average #s. My main concern is R. Mathis w/ safety help all day, aside from Dante killing drives w/ turnovers.This isn't like CLE w/ Quinn coming in - where he knew the playbook, has a solid TE option, and a run game demanding attention. CJ is about the only truly elite NFL talent on that offense - they will find a way to get him the ball.7/120/1Serenity Now
Footballguy
I think it's a little funny that everyone assumes Culpepper still has the skills he had back in his Vikings days and totally discounts the trainwreck he was in Miami. It would be nifty if he was the old Culpepper, but even Kansas City passed on him recently.
varmint cong
Footballguy
doesnt C-pep have the propensity to lock on one guy too much ala Moss, start Megatron with confidence, even if C-pep has a bad game, calvin will do well
omally
Footballguy
I don't think Culpepper has the skills he had as a Viking, but I also think he came back too soon from his injury as far as his trainwreck time in Miami. Kansas City may have passed on him recently, but that also may have been because he was asking too much for what they were willing to pay him as a bandaid.
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Yep. And who do you think HE thinks gives him the best chance of making completions and TDs, and saving his career? I'm starting Megatron in ALL leagues.
PhilLynott
Footballguy
CJ is just incredible. With CPepp's arm he should be able to run under a couple of throws and produce big time. He has been producing to this point with an average QB, I do not see that changing.
Wreckincrew
Footballguy
I'm choosing to sit him in favor of Moss vs a banged up Buffalo secondary. Plus I would like to see at least one game from the Bang Boat captain first.
Balance
Footballguy
Nobody is assuming any such thing.We are certainly hoping he will have greater than Orlovsky type skills.
wonderdork
Footballguy
Well I unfortunately played BE this week with a last minute substitution. So for my other four spots to play between RB/WR, I have:CJ3BurnerTurnerHightowerAndre Johnson MegatronI guess for me it would be between Hightower and Megatron for the last spot. It's hard to sit Megatron though because he is my favorite player on my keeper team!
treat88
Footballguy
I'd start every player on that list with no second thoughts before I'd start Hightower.
HULLOBUDMAN
Footballguy
As a CJ owner I think everyone is kidding themselves that he does anything worthwhile this week. There is just no way that he just walks in after less than a week and gets enough of the ofense/timing to make it work. Unfortunately I also started Braylon and can't pass up the up side of Calvin catching a long TD. I hope I'm wrong but I see low points for the league for me this week.
Man In The Box
Footballguy
I already played Torain and Royal. I have LT in at my other RB spot. 2 WR spots left. Have to pick from CJ, VJax, Colston. Then I have the left-out from those 3 along with Chris Johnson and Mewelde Moore for my flex. So yeah, some depth.
CHEF
Footballguy
With my choices being: Moss, Wayne, Megatron, Avery, Camarillo and Lance Moore. Have to start 3 I am starting Moss, Wayne and Megatron.
I have capable backups. But, I am having a hard time benching Moss, Wayne or Megatron. All of them have had issues. But, they are all capable of going off huge. So, after starting Cutler on Thursday I feel ok about starting these 3 even if they are all average this week.
I think Megatron will do ok as long as Cpep has some time to make reads.
Plus, the Jax Defense is ranked 21st against WR's and TE's and 26th against QBs, so I think Cpep will have some time to find Megatron. In addition, the Det D is ranked 25th against RB's. So, this should mean a high scoring game with Jax running all over Det and Det passing all over Jax.
I have capable backups. But, I am having a hard time benching Moss, Wayne or Megatron. All of them have had issues. But, they are all capable of going off huge. So, after starting Cutler on Thursday I feel ok about starting these 3 even if they are all average this week.
I think Megatron will do ok as long as Cpep has some time to make reads.
Plus, the Jax Defense is ranked 21st against WR's and TE's and 26th against QBs, so I think Cpep will have some time to find Megatron. In addition, the Det D is ranked 25th against RB's. So, this should mean a high scoring game with Jax running all over Det and Det passing all over Jax.
Das Boot
Footballguy
There are lots of different sized leagues as well as dynasty teams that could be stacked at WR.
I have Fitz, Bowe and Cotchery. Am seriously considering starting those three over CJ.
FantasyTrader
Footballguy
I count very few Culpepper to Calvin believers in this thread (or any other). Now Calvin believers? There's a whole army of us.
lord_helmet
Footballguy
, I have yet to see a solid argument as to why Calvin's numbers would decline. He has produced with Kitna and Orlovsky, why not Culpepper.
Tyrion
Footballguy
I couldn't care less what his QB rating is and I am not really that concerned about int numbers. He actually put up good fantasy numbers for 5 straight years. 2000-2004. His total for 2001 wasnt that great but he only played in 11 games and had 2600 yards. The only league where I am still on the fence about starting CJ as one of my 3 WRs is my keeper league where I have Steve Smith, Roddy White, Larry Fitzgerald, CJ and Colston. I am kind of concerned over Fitzgerald's thumb or I would not consider him this week.Warriors Forever said:You know everyone thinks Culpepper is going to be great with Calvin Johnson... saying he could do it with Moss and Calvin is a "younger version"??? You realize Culpepper only had 3 good seasons in his entire career:
2000: 98.0 PR, 3937 yards, 33 TD, 16 INT
2003: 96.4 PR, 3479 yards, 25 TD, 11 INT
2004: 110.9 PR, 4717 yards, 39 TD, 11 INT
Other than those 3 years, between 2000 and 2007 Culpepper has failed to throw more TD than INT 4 seasons, and one season with just one more TD than INT... so 5 seasons out of 8 he's been just god awful, with a QB rating below 84.
Not to mention he's only stayed healthy for a full 16 game season 3 seasons of his 8 career seasons
At the age of a very old 32 (33 in 2 months), I highly doubt he has the same mobility as he did back in 2000, 2003 and 2004. Therefore, I highly doubt he creates the plays he once could back in MIN.
This guy has been out of football for 9 weeks and thinks he can learn an entire offense in 6 days?
They don't want to embarrass Stanton, but they have no problem embarrassing Culpepper! Will be a great game to watch for those starting JAX this week!
I like Calvin's matchup this week against the Jags. Assuming Mathis is on him all day, though, I may roll with the struggling Wayne.
LBH
Footballguy
really? I have Calvin and Hightower, and Id choose Hightower to start this week against the 49ers
laughinboy_2000
Footballguy
I guess I'm one of the fortunate ones who has depth at the WR position. I've already started Brandon Marshall and I now have a decision to either start Boldin, Andre Johnson, or Megatron. Boldin is a no-brainer, but I am a bit concerned over AJ's tough match up. But they are playing at home and the Raven secondary is a bit banged up. I'm sitting Calvin this weekend, but it's definately a tough decision. I hope he does well. 
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prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
I am not horrible at WR.I have Fitz, Megatron, A Bryant, T Ginn, K Walter, M FurreyWell maybe I do suck at WR
of that list starting Megatron ia an easy choice. I am starting him with Fitz and Ginn :X :
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Seriously thinking of picking up the Jax defense if CPep starts.
Why wouldn't McDonald be the main beneficiary? I would think if a QB (man, this is hard to believe) was with a team for less than a week and he started, you would see a lot of possession passes (screens, down and outs, hooks - McDonald) and the occasional over the top deep ball (CJ). Problem with that last part is Culpepper was so regularly sacked in Miami and Oakland how is he going to find the time to set and throw? He was sacked 42 times in his last 11 games.
Why wouldn't McDonald be the main beneficiary? I would think if a QB (man, this is hard to believe) was with a team for less than a week and he started, you would see a lot of possession passes (screens, down and outs, hooks - McDonald) and the occasional over the top deep ball (CJ). Problem with that last part is Culpepper was so regularly sacked in Miami and Oakland how is he going to find the time to set and throw? He was sacked 42 times in his last 11 games.
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steelerfan1
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well having watched jax against the bungels lastweek, i am not so sure. henderson is out as well and not sure about peterson.i am hoping they get calvin some quick slant routs and hope for yac'si just know if i sit him for thigpen that gamebreak is gonna come on and show him catching an 80 yard bomb and i am gonna throw my work computer through the window.
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laughinboy_2000
Footballguy
You guys are making me nervous in here? Do I dare bench Andre Johnson and put Megatron in my lineup? 
FavreCo
Footballguy
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
same situationYou guys are making me nervous in here? Do I dare bench Andre Johnson and put Megatron in my lineup?
FavreCo
Footballguy
Your decision is as tough as mine.Marshall, Andre, Calvin, Jennings. I benched Jennings.You guys are making me nervous in here? Do I dare bench Andre Johnson and put Megatron in my lineup?
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
I have Cotchery, Berrian, Ohno Cinco, T. Holt, L. Moore, and A. Gonzalez on the pine in favor of Megatron. He's #1 in my league and I'm going with the "Never Bench Your Studs" theory.You guys are making me nervous in here? Do I dare bench Andre Johnson and put Megatron in my lineup?
