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MFL10 2016 (1 Viewer)

Bridgewater, T MIN QB 229.2 6 19.01
Cousins, Kirk WAS QB 313.9 9 13.01
Rivers, Philip SDC QB 314.2 11 10.12
Allen, Javorius BAL RB 132.7 8 12.12
Forsett, Justin BAL RB 122.4 8 11.01
Johnson, Duke CLE RB 155.8 13 5.01
Sims, Charles TBB RB 162.1 6 8.12
Stewart, J CAR RB (P) 162.8 7 6.12
Woodhead, D\ SDC RB (P) 229.9 11 4.12
Brown, Antonio PIT WR 348.5 8 1.01
Cooper, Amari OAK WR 208.7 10 2.12
Ginn Jr., Ted CAR WR 183.9 7 15.01
Hilton, T.Y. IND WR 203.0 10 3.01
Smith, Torrey SFO WR 114.2 8 9.01
Wallace, Mike BAL WR 95.7 8 14.12
Kelce, Travis KCC TE 187.5 5 7.01
Kendricks, Lance RAM TE 52.8 8 18.12
Rodgers, Richard GBP TE 141.2 4 16.12
Falcons, ATL ATL Def 116.0 11 20.12
Vikings, MIN MIN Def 148.0 6 17.01


Anyone want to critic my first MFL10 draft?  Don't worry, I won't spam the thread with every draft but just looking for feedback on this first attempt.  I had the first pick in the draft and my first 3 picks were all WR pretty much at their ADP.  At the 4/5 turn I wanted to get ahead of the run on RBs but it never really came - anyway I got D. Johnson and D. Woodhead there which I am happy with since it's PPR.  At the 6/7 turn I got another RB (J. Stewart) and T.Kelce - so no need to go earlier with TE than the 6th it seems.  Added depth at RB and WR at 8/9.  At the 10/11 turn I was hoping to go B. Roeth AND D. Brees, but they were both selected mid to late 10th round -- ended up with Rivers and another RB (Forsett).  At 12/13 I took J. Allen locking up the BAL RB spot (for whatever that's worth - :lol:  ) and K. Cousins.  From here I added T. Ginn and M. Wallace which are the type of players I think you want to target deep in the draft like this.  Also added Bridgewater as sort of a hedge again K. Cousins having the wheels fall off (I started him in the TNF game a few years ago against the Giants when he threw 4 picks :X  ).  Added 2 more TEs and 2 D.  The 3QB and 3TE left me with only 6 WR but if they all stay healthy I should be OK at that spot.

Thoughts?
Not the end of the world, but...

I know it was only round 19, but why even pick noodle-arm Bridgewater?  You may only use him maybe twice this year and probably not for many additional points.  I'd lotto-ticket that pick on another WR.  Even a 3rd Def is likely to get you more pts than Teddy.  Pick a leftover D (DAL?  IND?) and check back at the end of the year.  I'm thinking they'll have scored 3-4 weeks for you and for more than the 3rd QB.

 
@Dan Hindery

Yeah there are a lot of different ways the Lions could distribute the ball.

I hear you that 120 targets for a TE would likely be Ebron's ceiling. 

Last season Ebron in 14 games had 70 targets. This is 5 targets per game. Over 16 games this would be 80 targets. 120 targets would be a 50% increase from last seasons targets, but 120 targets is not outside the range of possibilities for a TE. This would increase Ebron's targets per game to 7.5 which is high for a TE.

Only 3 TE last season had 120 or more targets. Barnidge, Olsen and Gronk. 

8 TE had 100 or more targets last season. I don't think it is out of the range of possibilities that Ebron becomes one of these guys. If Barnidge can get 125 targets I don't see why Ebron can't get 120.

I am not willing to think all of these targets in play are going to all go to Jones as I have heard some people seem to think. Jones is new to the team. There is an adjustment period I think. I am not willing to shift all of these targets to a player who wasn't even with the team last season. So there is a disagreement there that I don't see being resolved prior to the season. We shall see.

Honestly I think the Lions had some idea that Calvin may be retiring when they picked Ebron. That is why I have been talking about how often the Lions were asking Calvin to go over the middle on routes so often, these are routes that I think are better suited for a TE than a WR.

So this is my reason for expecting more of these targets shift to Ebron than the outside WR. Ebron is replacing that role. I don't think they will be asking Tate or Jones to fill that role. They will if Ebron isn't up to the task, but I think Ebron will be.

Marvin Jones in his 4 year career so far has had 80 targets and 103 targets the last two seasons he was healthy (missing all of 2014). So while the Lions will throw the ball about 100 more times than the Bengals have been I don't see that equating to Jones getting 120 targets in 2016.

There really isn't a good reason for me to expect him to have more than 100 targets with the Lions this season.This has been his target range thus far this is 17% of 600 likely targets. 

Tate 23%

Ebron 20%

Jones 17%

Riddick 17%

Ameer 11%

Others 12% ( some of these are throw aways).

I dunno there is something like 3% of the targets in play here.

I still see it breaking down like this rather than that extra 3% going to Jones.

I could see Tate possibly having a bit more targets than 23% as well, which if he does I see those targets coming from Jones.

Honestly I think Jones is being over valued. I guess we will see.

Golden Tate has been with the Lions the last two seasons and has over 90 catches in each. Now with Calvin gone, he moves into the primary WR role imo.

2015 144 targets (22.8% of targets)
2014 128 targets (21.2% of targets)

This is pretty much telling me a median number of targets for Tate should be 130.

Calvin Johnson as the primary WR the last 2 seasons.

2015 149 23.6%
2014 158 26.1% (pro rated 3 missed games)

So the target ranges for all Lions players:

Tate 110-130-150 targets (there is a possibility this could be as high as 160 or 170 but I doubt that)

Ebron 80-100-120 targets

Jones 80-100-120 targets (This could be higher if Jones is the second most targeted player, so 90-110-130? I would feel uncomfortable with targets higher than 130 because I expect Tate to be the primary target).

Riddick 80-100-120 targets

Abdullah 50-65-80 targets (this could be less if you think a 3rd RB will be involved as well. I don't.)

3rd WR 30-50-70 targets (TJ Jones? Corey Fuller? I don't expect many targets here because I think Riddick fills the 3rd WR most of the time. If a 3rd WR gets 70 targets then I would expect Riddick to only have 80-100)

Others 30-50-70 targets

 
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I think it's just going to be "agree to disagree" on Jones and his role in Detroit. Lions made him a priority and gave him $40M. Not sure the "first year on the team" is going to be much of a factor either. It certainly wasn't for Golden Tate. 

Jones' 103 targets last season has to be viewed thru the lens that AJ Green had just 132. Tyler Eifert had just 72 (though he missed some time). Mo Sanu had just 50 targets and was viewed highly enough by the league to get $32.5M over 5 years in FA. And Gio Bernard is as talented a receiving back as there is in the league.

The receiving depth and talent in Detroit are nowhere near that level of 2015 Cincinnati. Plus, as you pointed out, the Lions throw the ball more. I don't see any reason not to expect the 103 targets from last year to be a floor with substantial room for that number to go up. I'd be pretty shocked if Ebron gets more targets.

Lastly, I'm not sure why it's such a given that Tate is the clear #1. Maybe he will be, but Jones has been more productive on a per target basis. Jones has been at ~8.5 yards per target the last two healthy seasons and scored a TD 7.7% of his targets. Tate is coming off a season with a terrible 6.3 yards per target and has a miserable TD% in his two years in Detroit.

 
Yeah I agree that we disagree about this.

It is reasonable to say Jones had 103 targets when the Bengals threw just over 500 times, that is about 20% of the share of the targets, so with the Lions, if that continues at 600 passing attempts you get 120 targets.

That is completely rational.

However Marvin Jones is new to a team that is running a very different offense than what the Bengals were. Not just in total number of plays and passing attempts, they have a very different offense than what Dalton and Hue Jackson are running. The type of offense that the Lions are working towards is more similar to the Saints offense than it is the Bengals.

What is different about it?

The passing volume is much higher.

They throw to the TE more than most teams.

They throw to RB more (using 2 or more RB for this) than most teams.

I have not seen a recent extensive study on how WR perform in their 1st season with a team. It does seem to be a smoother transition for players recently than it has been in the past. But I have not looked into all of the facts regarding this, so perhaps my impression about that is wrong.

Regardless of how easily Jones transitions however I do not expect him to become the number one target for Lions in 2016 and it seems like people are pushing for that, I do not understand why.

You cite Golden Tate as an example of WR going from lower volume passing attack to the Lions in 2014 where he did exactly that leading the team with 144 targets. However Calvin Johnson missed 3 games and was used as a decoy in many others, when he was not fully healthy. Calvin was on pace for 159 targets and if he had been fully healthy, I seriously doubt Tate would have had this many targets in that scenario and the 2015 stats provide an example for that. Calvin had more targets than Tate who's targets fell to 128 last season.

Golden Tate is very good. 

Marvin Jones is not a special WR in my opinion. Not that he isn't good, he is fine, but he is average and I do not think he is as good as Tate.

Tate is already established in this offense and has chemistry with Stafford. This goes for Ebron as well.

Marvin Jones needs to earn that still.

I don't find the arguments regarding contracts to be compelling at all. The cap keeps going up and free agents usually do not become free agents unless they are easily replaceable. Sure Jones was probably he best free agent WR available, but if he was that good I think the Bengals would have kept him. They are the team that knows Jones best and they let him walk.

As far as your statement that the Lions receiver talent is weaker than what the Bengals had last season. I disagree. The numbers do your support your assertion.

Calvin > Green

Tate > Jones

You claim that Jones was more efficient than Tate in terms of yards per target and TD percentage while ignoring the smaller sample size influencing these numbers, how the Bengals forced teams to worry about the run more than the Lions do and creates more favorable scenarios for those types of metrics.

Yeah we are not going to agree about these things and although it does not matter to me in any way, I do feel some sympathy for those who may be over drafting Jones, and you should take some responsibility for that if you are pushing Jones as possibly being targeted more than Tate in this offense.

 
Finally started one and drew 1.03...

Annnnd a meaningless post to mark the thread so I can find it.  Lots of good stuff here :thumbup:

 
Not the end of the world, but...

I know it was only round 19, but why even pick noodle-arm Bridgewater?  You may only use him maybe twice this year and probably not for many additional points.  I'd lotto-ticket that pick on another WR.  Even a 3rd Def is likely to get you more pts than Teddy.  Pick a leftover D (DAL?  IND?) and check back at the end of the year.  I'm thinking they'll have scored 3-4 weeks for you and for more than the 3rd QB.
Thanks for the feedback - makes sense.

 
Last year, Doug Baldwin was my trigger to throw ADP out the window and start looking at defenses.  This year it's Pierre Garcon.  Up to 23% ownership of him, only one shy of Roethlisberger for me.  The secret has been out on Vance mcdonald and draughn also.

I finally broke down and drafted Jarvis Landry.  Felt dirty.  70 down, 30 to go.  Still looking like I'll have zero Demaryious Thomas.

 
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What is the opinion on Josh Gordon? Obviously if he plays and is 50% of what he was he is a great pick in the 14th or 15th round  which seems to be where he is going. But...if he does not play a snap you are wasting a pick. I am in my 5th draft for the year and have yet to draft him but have been tempted. 

 
6-7-8 rounds are a wasteland.  Never getting anyone I love. 
Lots of love to go around there.  Stud QBs, excellent RBs, hipster WR picks and prime TE options.

As for Gordon, I see no reason to take him.  Much rather have Robert Woods, Ruben Randle, etc.

 
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Yeah I've been grabbing guys like R.Wilson, Brees and a few TE's in the 7th/8th. Also some receiving RB's like Simms & Riddick

 
Here are the players being drafted  round 6 or later. I start with ADP 58.

Bernard, Giovani    RB    CIN    56.24
Ajayi, Jay    RB    MIA    59.40

60 Jones, Matt    RB    WAS    59.47
Lockett, Tyler    WR    SEA    60.18
Hurns, Allen    WR    JAC    61.75
Mathews, Ryan    RB    PHI    63.55
Murray, DeMarco    RB    TEN    63.60
65 Crabtree, Michael    WR    OAK    65.90
Luck, Andrew    QB    IND    67.78
White, Kevin    WR    CHI    69.28
Jones, Marvin    WR    DET    69.99
Langford, Jeremy    RB    CHI    70.09
70 Wilson, Russell    QB    SEA    70.23
Kelce, Travis    TE    KCC    71.22
Hill, Jeremy
Coleman, Corey    WR    CLE    72.71
Jackson, DeSean    WR    WAS    73.50
75 Gore, Frank    RB    IND    74.10
Fleener, Coby    TE    NOS    75.59
Stewart, Jonathan    RB    CAR    75.81
Shepard, Sterling    WR    NYG    79.42
Abdullah, Ameer    RB    DET    79.88
80 Smith, Torrey    WR    SFO    79.90
Brees, Drew    QB    NOS    81.30
Walker, Delanie    TE    TEN    81.34
Snead, Willie    WR    NOS    82.71
Sims, Charles    RB    TBB    83.34
85 Eifert, Tyler    TE    CIN    84.83
Gordon, Melvin    RB    SDC    84.99
Austin, Tavon    WR    RAM    88.82
Riddick, Theo    RB    DET    90.50
Treadwell, Laquon    WR    MIN    90.57
90 Roethlisberger, Ben    QB    PIT    91.34
Yeldon, T.J.    RB    JAC    91.84
Ertz, Zach    TE    PHI    95.91
Ivory, Chris    RB    JAC    97.01
Aiken, Kamar    WR    BAL    97.24
95 Brady, Tom    QB    NEP    97.26
Green, Ladarius    TE    PIT    97.43
Diggs, Stefon    WR    MIN    97.52
Green-Beckham, Dorial    WR    TEN    98.92
Barnidge, Gary    TE    CLE    99.16
100 Wheaton, Markus    WR    PIT    101.29
Benjamin, Travis    WR    SDC    101.47
Thomas, Julius    TE    JAC    102.42
Jennings, Rashad    RB    NYG    103.64
Forsett, Justin    RB    BAL    105.28
105 Palmer, Carson    QB    ARI    105.62
Crowell, Isaiah    RB    CLE    106.12
Henry, Derrick    RB    TEN    109.43
Prosise, C.J.    RB    SEA    110.35
Thomas, Michael    WR    NOS    112.09
110 Gates, Antonio    TE    SDC    112.42
Bortles, Blake    QB    JAC    113.96
Manning, Eli    QB    NYG    114.09
Ebron, Eric    TE    DET    114.36
Allen, Dwayne    TE    IND    114.69
115 Jackson, Vincent    WR    TBB    115.14
Rivers, Philip    QB    SDC    117.73
Smith, Steve    WR    BAL    118.27

Coleman, Tevin    RB    ATL    118.96
Williams, DeAngelo    RB    PIT    120.00
120 Bennett, Martellus    TE    NEP    121.24
Williams, Karlos    RB    BUF    121.40
Coates, Sammie

The bolded guys I would pretty much love to get at their ADP and to me can be worth taking in the 6th round.

Forsett, Ebron and Rivers all seem like nice values after the top 100.

There are plenty of other players on this list that I might not love but I would be ok with drafting.

 
Biabreakable said:
Why are you drafting players you don't like?
Going by positions:

QB:  Seems early.  Especially in best ball.  

RB:  Are they much different than backs in the 9th round?  There are players that will help, but there's no big tier here, and it seems like value is a bit later

WR:  Picked clean.  One round earlier, and you are talking solid guys that have proven something, and you have a handle one.  Here, you are getting into projections.  Big drop off at WR here from the 5th round.  

TE:  I think this position works best.  Especially because I think if you wind up with TE 10-12, I think it's a pretty big drop-off.  I'm starting one today, might go back to back on TE in these rounds, or 2 out of 3, see what that looks like.  If I could wind up with Kelce/Julius in these rounds, that might be pretty slick.  

 
BroadwayG said:
Last year, Doug Baldwin was my trigger to throw ADP out the window and start looking at defenses.  This year it's Pierre Garcon.  Up to 23% ownership of him, only one shy of Roethlisberger for me.  The secret has been out on Vance mcdonald and draughn also.

I finally broke down and drafted Jarvis Landry.  Felt dirty.  70 down, 30 to go.  Still looking like I'll have zero Demaryious Thomas.
So does that mean you start looking for defense after pick #160? Yeesh that seems early to me.... who are you targeting? I guess I can see HOU/MIN, although I rarely draft D early enough to get them. 

I think the Niners are going to get bumped as more and more actual team projections come out. The first was Torrey Smith. Seems like he was 130-ish just a few months ago and now you sometimes see him go in the 70's. Then McDonald was in that 210 range and he's now in the 160's. When one of the QB's win a starting job they are going to bubble up draft boards. I think when people really sit down and work out the match on how many carries Hyde is going to get in relation to most other RB's out there he's going to slide from the mid-4th round to the early third. If there are a bunch of reports about how good he looks catching passes he may even finish in the late 2nd round by September... ASSUMING full health. I can understand people fading Hyde if they are scared off by health but that's the only way he won't be a value this season. I know Evan Silva is big on Draughn, but I just don't see it. He just looked like "a guy" to me last year. Did you hear the podcast recently where Silva admitted to finishing in the red on MFL 10's last year? I enjoy listening to his analysis either way but I was just impressed that he mentioned it on a podcast. Aren't there a bunch of "industry experts" in these MFL 10's but I rarely see any of them promote themselves in these things. It really makes me wonder just how good they are at fantasy football. Do you know how many of the podcast community participates in MFL 10's and which ones actually go by a handle letting everyone know who they are? Not asking you to "out" anyone, just curious which guys actually have enough confidence in what they are telling people to put their name behind it.

 
I suppose that means that I will always draft Garcon before a defense, and once he's gone, I'll start considering them, not necessarily bumping them to the top of the list.

I don't know about podcast people, but twitter FF experts in general were pretty awful last year and the ones that did reasonably well had a pretty weak total league count.

 
I don't know about podcast people, but twitter FF experts in general were pretty awful last year and the ones that did reasonably well had a pretty weak total league count.
That's a shame. You always hear these people mention what they are doing in MFL 10's on their podcasts but you never actually see them in the leagues.

 
Indeed, it's hard for me not to chuckle at some of the people putting out MFL10 content, but content must be pooped out at all costs I suppose.  I'm keeping my trap shut outside of this thread unless asked until I know I'm not a one year wonder.

 
Indeed, it's hard for me not to chuckle at some of the people putting out MFL10 content, but content must be pooped out at all costs I suppose.  I'm keeping my trap shut outside of this thread unless asked until I know I'm not a one year wonder.
Well, I understand there's a certain ebb and flow to it. Some best ball info seems more thoughtful than others to be sure. But I guess that could be said for FF analysis from top to bottom. You seem like you would be more into the rotoviz radio end of the spectrum than myself. But I still listen to it.

 
Going by positions:

QB:  Seems early.  Especially in best ball.  

RB:  Are they much different than backs in the 9th round?  There are players that will help, but there's no big tier here, and it seems like value is a bit later

WR:  Picked clean.  One round earlier, and you are talking solid guys that have proven something, and you have a handle one.  Here, you are getting into projections.  Big drop off at WR here from the 5th round.  

TE:  I think this position works best.  Especially because I think if you wind up with TE 10-12, I think it's a pretty big drop-off.  I'm starting one today, might go back to back on TE in these rounds, or 2 out of 3, see what that looks like.  If I could wind up with Kelce/Julius in these rounds, that might be pretty slick.  
I agree it is a bit early to draft a QB. If you are getting Wilson though I think he is worth it.

You could possibly get some of these RB later, I believe in Jay Ajayi and I think he is one of only a handful of RB to see 300+ opportunities in 2016. But if you don't believe in him I can see why you consider him similar to other that could be drafted later. Who is going to take significant opportunity away from him though?

 Forsett falls really far for being a starting RB in Trestmans offense.

I would be happy to take Lockett this high. He won't always be there by then though. I agree with you that most of the good WR are gone by then. I do think rookies Coleman and Shephard will be good this year. I also like Diggs and Benjamin. There are some other options like Austin to consider as well.

Both Kelce and Ebron have a good shot at being top 5 in 2016 I think. You mention liking Julius as well. I am undecided about him. There is also Ertz.

For dynasty start ups I have been advocating trading down, because of a similar perspective about getting similarly valued players later on (around pick 90 or so) as I could get in the 50-60 range. But trading is not an option here so you have to try to identify which of these guys will be the best this year.

 
Here is an interesting article that kind of reminded me of what we are talking about in terms of options in rounds 6-8.

Guess what, guys? Winning your drafts in the middle and late rounds is really freaking hard.

If we were to take this data and generalize it, the main takeaways would be that selecting wide receivers early is smart and relying on wide receivers in the middle and late rounds is dumb, and we've certainly seen more running backs in the middle-to-late rounds succeed versus wide receivers.

The problem here, though, is that actually relying on those middle- to late-round backs still isn't a very easy thing to do. For example, there's about a 12.2% chance a back you select from Round 6 through roughly Round 11 becomes an RB1. You can increase those odds by collecting a library of backs, of course, but you limit that upside if you're spending that equity on any other position, especially at quarterback or tight end.

In other words, if you decide to forgo drafting at least one running back early, you better be ready to load up on the position consistently -- and I mean consistently -- in the middle rounds.

That is, if you don't want your fantasy team to bust.

 
Wrapping everything up now, one selection left to make.  I am a lot more spread out this year compared to last year, so a 25% win rate is probably out of the question this year.  Once again, my target is 15% or 22 of 145 leagues.  These are my highest owned players, thankfully no IR guys on the list yet.

Sanders, Emmanuel


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Bennett, Martellus


39


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Kearse, Jermaine


39


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Jaguars, Jacksonville


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Garcon, Pierre


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Raiders, Oakland


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Rams, Los Angeles


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Roethlisberger, Ben


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Clay, Charles


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Wheaton, Markus


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Vereen, Shane


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Johnson, Duke


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Vikings, Minnesota


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Thomas, Julius


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Murray, DeMarco


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Packers, Green Bay


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Ingram, Mark


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Allen, Dwayne


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Austin, Tavon


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Moncrief, Donte


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Martin, Doug


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Mathews, Ryan


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Rudolph, Kyle


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Wrapping everything up now, one selection left to make.  I am a lot more spread out this year compared to last year, so a 25% win rate is probably out of the question this year.  Once again, my target is 15% or 22 of 145 leagues.  These are my highest owned players, thankfully no IR guys on the list yet.

Sanders, Emmanuel


40


 0.275862


Bennett, Martellus


39


 0.268965


Kearse, Jermaine


39


 0.268965


Jaguars, Jacksonville


37


 0.255172


Garcon, Pierre


37


 0.255172


Raiders, Oakland


36


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Rams, Los Angeles


31


 0.213793


Roethlisberger, Ben


31 


 0.213793


Clay, Charles


31


0.213793


Wheaton, Markus


29


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Vereen, Shane


28


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Johnson, Duke


27


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Vikings, Minnesota


26


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Thomas, Julius


26


0.179310


Murray, DeMarco


25


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Packers, Green Bay


25


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Ingram, Mark


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Allen, Dwayne


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Austin, Tavon


24


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Moncrief, Donte


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Martin, Doug


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Mathews, Ryan


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Rudolph, Kyle


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I like all those guys with the exception of D.Murray where he was being drafted. There was a brief window when he first arrived in TEN but before the NFL draft where I was all in on him but didn't touch him before or after. I will admit I was worried he might get the Rashard Jennings treatment where he lost obvious passing down work to McCluster and GL work to Henry so TEN releasing McCluster does may him more viable imo.

Best of luck this season! Tell us how you are doing before week #4(when the bye weeks start skewing things).

 
This is my first year doing MFL10s - what is the best way for me to see a summary of where all my teams stand?  For example, can I see a list of all my teams sorted by the current rank?  And/or a summary of the number of my teams at each position?  Only way I can figure out how to see where I stand is to look at each league individually.

 
Well, at the quarter pole I'm doing fairly well with 24/145 1st places for a 16.6% rate, slightly above my 15% goal.  57/145 (39%) are top 3. Using my 150 point average target, I've got 77/145 that I'd label 'Competitive.'  My all league average is 605, which if that lingers around that 150 average per week I think I'll end up very happy.

It seems like every league I peek at has some combination of Vereen/Peterson/Allen/Woodhead unfortunately.  My foray into 25s is turning into a train wreck as well.

I don't have my full standings data collection going yet, hopefully soon.

#2 in total leagues, osceola48 is totally crushing it, with an unbelieveable 35% win rate.

 
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That's a coincidence, I am at 16% for my 1st place rate as well. Weird after we finished so close to one another last year as well.

My best team is at 698.8 pt so far:


1.04


Jones, Julio ATL WR


1:07:45 p.m.


2.09


Martin, Doug TBB RB


7:15:29 p.m.


3.04


Thomas, Demaryius DEN WR


9:22:54 p.m.


4.09


Murray, DeMarco TEN RB


3:13:26 p.m.


5.04


Hyde, Carlos SFO RB


8:53:46 p.m.


6.09


Bernard, Giovani CIN RB


7:21:17 p.m.


7.04


Jones, Matt WAS RB


7:44:34 p.m.


8.09


Fleener, Coby NOS TE


3:58:47 p.m.


9.04


Ebron, Eric DET TE


7:30:27 p.m.


10.09


Allen, Dwayne IND TE


11:48:14 a.m.


11.04


Coleman, Tevin ATL RB


5:41:45 p.m.


12.09


Winston, Jameis TBB QB


1:13:23 a.m.


13.04


Garcon, Pierre WAS WR


10:45:23 a.m.


14.09


Coleman, Brandon NOS WR


7:29:13 a.m.


15.04


Flacco, Joe BAL QB


12:02:34 p.m.


16.09


Adams, Davante GBP WR


8:56:38 a.m.


17.04


Osweiler, Brock HOU QB


3:21:15 p.m.


18.09


Tamme, Jacob ATL TE


6:17:07 a.m.


19.04


Redskins, Washington WAS Def


10:03:22 a.m.


20.09


Wallace, Mike BAL WR


8:37:37 p.m.

 
Nice, I've got two teams > 780 which are severe outliers from the rest of my scores.  They offset my two leagues where I'm sub-500.
http://www64.myfantasyleague.com/2016/home/23326#0
http://www63.myfantasyleague.com/2016/home/34999#0

A quick peek at my most owned by Position:

Ben R (31), Fitzpatrick (22), Rivers (22), Ryan (22), Cousins (21), Griffin III (20), Stafford (20)
Actually feeling very good about these.  Bought into the Griffin revival and may get burned by Fitz, but they were both primarily QB3s so it looks worse than it actually is.  Totally capitalized on the absurd negativity toward R'Berger.

Vereen(28), Duke J (27), Ingram (25), Murray (25), Martin (24), Mathews (24), Gore (22), Lacy (22), Starks (22), Stewart (22)
Pretty ugly outside of Murray here.  Vereen hurts, but was a RB4 or 5 everywhere.  Whiffed on Duke and am plagued by injuries here, hoping health to the injured guys here including Charles (20) to make a 2nd half resurgence in RB scoring.

E Sanders (40), Kearse (39), Garcon (37), Wheaton (29), Austin (24), Moncrief (24), Baldwin (22), K Allen (21), Crabtree (21), V Jackson (21), Woods (21)
Sanders proving to be a much better investment than Thomas as I expected.  Kearse/Garcon mediocre at best, but may have something in Woods and a healthy Wheaton.

Bennett (39), Clay (31), Jul Thomas (26), D Allen (25), Rudolph (24)
I turned away from Allen late in the draft season, but the damage had been done.  Very happy with the situations/results of the others.

Jax (37), Oak (36), LAR (31), Min (26), GBP (25)
Another mixed bag.  Overestimated the performance of the young guys in Jax and Oak, but hit on the Rams and Vikings.  Amazingly, defenses are pretty much scoring according to their draft slot.  Bills are the only surprise in the top 7.

Definitely not going to match my 25% win rate with this group of significant investments, but I feel pretty good about 15%.

 
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Both teams have the Vikings D, I noticed. Both also have TE's leading the way drafted in round 12.12 or later. Both also had top 3 picks.... I feel like that was a bigger advantage this year compared to the past. 

 
BroadwayG said:
Definitely not going to match my 25% win rate with this group of significant investments, but I feel pretty good about 15%.
Still too early to tell. Injuries play into these MFL's so heavily. That's why I wish they would expand the rosters a bit and take a little bit of the "health-lotto" out of the equation. I would have had a GREAT year last season if Charles wouldn't have gotten hurt.

 
16% is awesome. Hopefully that holds up or even improves for you guys.

After 5 weeks I have 5 of 44 teams in 1st. Was hoping for for that as a minimum by season end. Have 17 other teams with a 150+ weekly average. So, hopefully that continues. It's nice to at least feel like I'm in contention. Lowest scoring 1st place team is at 768. Highest scoring non-1st place team is at 830.

I'm smart, I own a lot of: Theo Riddick

I'm dumb, I own a lot of: Duke Johnson

 
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Black Unicorn boosts me up to 30 1st places.  In one of my trainwreck leagues he accounted for nearly half of my total score.  Down to 70 above my 150/week line.  Average rank is 4.9.

 
A couple more weeks in, holding fairly steady despite nothing particularly of interest with my highest owned players.  My average score is 1114 and rank is right at 5.  29 first places is an exact 20% winrate and would be an awesome result if it holds, 17 2nd, 18 3rd. 62 leagues at or above 1050. Regained the highest overall score across all MFL10s in league 23326 with 1333.5.

 
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29 first places is an exact 20% winrate and would be an awesome result if it holds
Last week I spiked to 26% first place, but this week dropped down to 22%. It will be interesting to see where we are at after week 9 and the big bye weeks are out of the way. I feel like I am deeper at QB/TE than most and am hoping this is an advantage over the next two weeks.

 
And a disastrous week 8 to mark the halfway point.  22 Winners (15%), 20 2nd, 18 3rd.  1158 average and down to 49 teams over 1200.  Boy, things can get ugly fast.

 
The open wound of week 8 continues to bleed after two weeks.  1st 2nd 3rd counts are 19/21/16 which marks the first time since the 2014 season that my 1st place total is not at the top of the list.  39 teams at or above 1500 which means a lot of my 2nd/3rd place teams are dead teams walking.  Starks and Martin returning may give me a little hope, but I'm trending towards 14 wins which would net a small loss on the year.

 
Things have thankfully stabilized.  Sitting now at 20/19/21 for a nice top-heavy distribution, although my dabble into 25s is going to net 0 return.  I have 7 leagues where I'm within 25 points of the leader, and 4 leagues where I am winning by less than 25, so my prospects for adding a win or two over the final 4 weeks are pretty good.  35 teams still hanging around above the target number of 1800.  23326 is still the overall MFL10 points leader by 20 with 2181, despite not looking too great on paper.

 
Things have thankfully stabilized.  Sitting now at 20/19/21 for a nice top-heavy distribution, although my dabble into 25s is going to net 0 return.  I have 7 leagues where I'm within 25 points of the leader, and 4 leagues where I am winning by less than 25, so my prospects for adding a win or two over the final 4 weeks are pretty good.  35 teams still hanging around above the target number of 1800.  23326 is still the overall MFL10 points leader by 20 with 2181, despite not looking too great on paper.
Very nice!

I had 5 of 44 teams in 1st after week 5. Today I am 5/4/9.

Realistically, 3 of my 1st's are very vulnerable with <10 point leads. 3 of my 2nd's might have a shot. 1 of my 3rd's has a shot as well (this is actually my highest scoring team). I have 8 teams > 1800. I'll consider myself fortunate if I break even on the MFL10's this year.

 
I sure hope osceola48 comes forward and takes a bow.  He is still absolutely wrecking all competition with a 34.3% win rate across 531 total leagues. 

 
After a quick glance, a very conservative early approach.  Extremely low to no ownership of season sinkers Charles, Gronk, Allen, Watkins, Gordon, etc.

 
16/23/15 with 2 weeks to go.  9 leagues where I'm within 20 points of first, and only one where I'm winning by less than 40.  This should be the absolute worst I can finish.

 
After a quick glance, a very conservative early approach.  Extremely low to no ownership of season sinkers Charles, Gronk, Allen, Watkins, Gordon, etc.
I believe out of all the leagues you are in, and all the leagues I am in.... we are only in one league together. In that league you got caught with Hopkins(1st), K.Allen(2nd), Lewis(4th), Woodhead(5th). Glad I caught you in a bad league!

Full disclosure I also whiffed on Lacy(3rd), Fleener(7th), D.Allen(9th), Dorsett(12th), Cameron(15th), Randle(18th), Drake(20th) but at least my busts were a little more spread out throughout the draft.

 
Dang formatting.  This is my chasing table.  I'm all upside at the moment.  16 leagues where I'm winning and 19 more within 50 points.

mypoints    winner    chasing    chasing2nd    LeagueNumber
2508.7    2508.7    0.00    -330.60    23326
2345.9    2345.9    0.00    -264.20    34999
2339.6    2339.6    0.00    -251.80    15100
2211.5    2211.5    0.00    -144.80    32970
2273    2273    0.00    -142.70    38872
2202    2202    0.00    -107.40    17586
2181    2181    0.00    -97.50    38931
2181.5    2181.5    0.00    -87.00    45872
2160.1    2160.1    0.00    -77.80    45300
2120.3    2120.3    0.00    -69.40    21011
2255    2255    0.00    -68.40    49298
2106.6    2106.6    0.00    -65.80    34882
2128    2128    0.00    -52.70    18545
2216.1    2216.1    0.00    -49.60    20041
2195.3    2195.3    0.00    -48.30    43891
2168.2    2168.2    0.00    -2.70    23625
2117.2    2118    0.80    0.00    25487
2184.6    2189.7    5.10    0.00    48011
2127.1    2132.7    5.60    0.00    47291
2085.9    2095.4    9.50    0.00    13383
2056.8    2068.6    11.80    0.00    21201
2072.3    2085.1    12.80    0.00    31436
2195.7    2209.3    13.60    0.00    46937
2229.9    2244.5    14.60    0.00    32855
2068.7    2085.1    16.40    0.00    36827
2181.1    2201.1    20.00    0.00    10767
2145.9    2168.6    22.70    0.00    24535
2100.1    2124.3    24.20    0.00    45080
2051.5    2077.3    25.80    4.20    34074
1966.5    1994.7    28.20    25.90    43305
2049.7    2083.9    34.20    9.40    47953
2026.5    2067.3    40.80    29.80    24258
2113.2    2156.1    42.90    0.00    27554
1998    2042.1    44.10    34.10    38656
2072.5    2121.3    48.80    0.00    17170
2110.2    2161.4    51.20    0.00    10903
2079.1    2136.2    57.10    0.00    12803
1983.6    2041.1    57.50    24.60    47453
1988.7    2051    62.30    44.90    34249
2091    2153.6    62.60    8.20    15128
2034.4    2104.2    69.80    32.40    20936
1997.6    2070.7    73.10    69.10    25121
2043.1    2118.6    75.50    42.90    12724
2007.4    2084.2    76.80    15.80    45666
2031.9    2113    81.10    70.80    22630
2071.7    2154.9    83.20    17.50    24705
2107.9    2200.5    92.60    11.10    22675
2051.5    2144.5    93.00    0.00    24666
2131.5    2233.1    101.60    0.00    48772
2010.8    2120.2    109.40    89.30    36746
2026.6    2136.4    109.80    75.40    30728
2047.8    2158.5    110.70    0.00    41258
1990.7    2101.5    110.80    33.70    11627
2080.2    2193    112.80    0.00    17646
2074.1    2189.7    115.60    11.40    44416
2022.7    2141.4    118.70    0.00    10410
1960.3    2083.4    123.10    96.80    24160
2075    2198.9    123.90    103.50    25020
1976.4    2104.9    128.50    115.90    45309
1941.6    2073.3    131.70    97.00    41702
1928    2060.2    132.20    116.00    25657
1962.8    2098.4    135.60    116.50    22219
1940.9    2081.5    140.60    129.20    45117
1949.9    2090.8    140.90    118.60    23469
1915.6    2066.4    150.80    52.10    45903
2069.9    2228.3    158.40    109.20    14612
2035.4    2197.3    161.90    15.40    13452
1966.7    2133.3    166.60    153.00    22421
1973.7    2140.9    167.20    143.50    36269
1967    2138    171.00    115.70    23825
1927.9    2104    176.10    175.90    44347
2002.1    2180.8    178.70    98.20    29946
1886.2    2076.2    190.00    116.50    15081
2067.8    2260.5    192.70    0.00    16174
2155.1    2354.4    199.30    0.00    41937
1911.4    2111.5    200.10    161.20    16302
2020.4    2221.4    201.00    32.50    22994
1953.2    2154.4    201.20    59.40    35395
1924.8    2134.9    210.10    184.20    36329
1884.6    2103.9    219.30    174.50    39097
1908.5    2133.7    225.20    161.00    22779
2046.9    2275.7    228.80    58.90    19254
1831.8    2061.8    230.00    194.20    47602
1965.1    2195.6    230.50    181.70    49528
1952.1    2185.6    233.50    169.80    30820
1964.2    2200.6    236.40    217.00    46162
1887.2    2139.6    252.40    200.20    14991
1806.4    2062    255.60    216.40    42610
1859.3    2119.4    260.10    220.90    34683
1834.1    2096.2    262.10    248.50    23710
1905.7    2169.3    263.60    154.40    41234
1988.9    2256.1    267.20    49.50    26994
1899.3    2169.3    270.00    184.00    15962
1858.4    2130    271.60    235.30    14216
1924.4    2206    281.60    218.70    24844
1986.1    2268.5    282.40    80.20    48748
1933.5    2216.9    283.40    211.80    30164
1835.8    2123.5    287.70    281.10    36884
1903.9    2194.2    290.30    170.20    33698
1886.1    2178.6    292.50    181.00    22812
1945.3    2241.7    296.40    118.30    19750
1854.7    2151.9    297.20    157.70    17782
2019    2318.7    299.70    38.20    15700
1895.4    2206.3    310.90    287.60    34055
1862.8    2178.3    315.50    225.30    36759
1837    2155.2    318.20    300.90    24646
1972.4    2293.2    320.80    73.50    47129
1951.1    2272.4    321.30    174.70    11349
1826.2    2151.9    325.70    240.80    16812
1997.2    2323.5    326.30    117.10    44715
1920.3    2247.9    327.60    141.80    16564
1810.9    2147.8    336.90    259.80    37247
1805.4    2149.6    344.20    240.80    28556
1824.7    2168.9    344.20    288.10    47304
1837    2181.9    344.90    287.60    21973
1857    2206.3    349.30    274.20    30764
1891.7    2254.6    362.90    189.00    40260
1804.1    2167.9    363.80    303.90    36324
1792.4    2168.2    375.80    274.70    11009
1891.9    2271.1    379.20    288.60    21686
1745    2129.4    384.40    347.00    20443
1761.5    2158.5    397.00    341.30    44711
1779.8    2187.2    407.40    377.80    15182
1927.2    2339.8    412.60    117.20    49356
1782.6    2195.2    412.60    293.80    23946
1753.2    2170.4    417.20    132.10    11063
1926.5    2361.1    434.60    148.30    43775
1807.2    2244.7    437.50    321.70    19173
1705.5    2144.8    439.30    420.70    12420
1821.4    2268.5    447.10    285.70    29945
1791.3    2241.5    450.20    240.90    35791
1888.5    2340.8    452.30    282.20    34420
1757.2    2219.6    462.40    363.20    36751
1811.8    2277    465.20    459.10    24132
1870.4    2342.9    472.50    326.80    14024
1726.8    2240.7    513.90    439.70    14360
1788.3    2312.5    524.20    250.00    48359
1636.7    2180.4    543.70    516.50    25329
1759.2    2305.7    546.50    464.50    14306
1617.4    2168    550.60    507.00    19480
1675.1    2227.9    552.80    478.00    39778
1670.9    2271.3    600.40    529.20    36569
1629    2252.7    623.70    585.70    26571
1624.6    2297.2    672.60    421.40    22566
1647    2353    706.00    507.60    26783
 
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22/19/12  Nice to pick up about a third of those close leagues.  Side effect of that is I've got a lot of nailbiters.  Using 25 points as a not too surprising shift amount, I could lose 4 or gain 3 depending on lady luck.  Likely not going to reach my goal of 24 wins, but should turn an ok profit.  Unlike my DFS season :puke:

 
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Rough weekend. Really hoping for a bounce back heading into week #16. 

Good luck to everyone in the running! It got awfully quiet in these MFL 10 threads.

 
In league #10767 with you Broadway.  Distant 3rd in that one but gonna win 2 out of 8.  Look forward to discussion on this for 2017, hoping to learn a little more about how to approach this format. 

 
Final tally: 24 firsts, 14 2nd.  Landed exactly on my target win number which is very pleasing given the state of things a few weeks ago.  Tried 10 25s which got me zero return.  I can also claim best team overall, too bat this isn't a GPP.

So 1600 in, 2400 out, plus 140 in league credit next year.  That's a nice chunk o change, maybe I'll get myself a new computer to use as a host for my web app next year.

 

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