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Because of this, Turner could end up on a good team. Late first rounders are held by good teams, not bad ones. I doubt a team with a top 10 pick will be giving it up for Turner.If Turner keeps performing the way he has been, a team with a late-round pick in 2007 will give up a first round pick for him.
I personally do not expect to see Michael Turner on SD next season.
I agree that the Chargers will place a first-and-third round tender on him, but I don't see anything in the Union-Tribune about this. (The first-and-third isn't the highest tender, by the way. There's a higher one that has never been used, but the Chargers might use it on Turner if they intend to match another team's offer. It brings only a first-rounder as compensation if they don't match, but it means that the Chargers don't have to match any promises not to franchise Turner in the future. This tender is $500K higher than the first-and-third tender.)The first-and-third round tender will be around $2M, not $1.5M. (It was $1.906M this year.)
I like his chances, but with that being said there is a chance that he will never amount to much more then he is now. Thats not what I think, but it's far from a slam dunk.
If the way he's playing right now is his "bottom" then he'd be worth one of the top five picks in the draft. The guys being drafted are completely unproven. #2 pick Ronnie Brown. #4 pick Cedric Benson. #5 pick Caddy Williams. I'd take Turner over any of those guys from the "great RB draft" after watching all four of them play.
good point. That coupled with the fact that he's had a couple years to learn defenses, learn to block and adjust to the speed of the pro game with very little mileage.
In how many leagues would Turner not be on someone's roster?
I wish you played in my dynasty league because I would be cashing in Turner for any of those RB right now. Benson is a bit iffy but if you traded me Ronnie Brown for Turner I would be doing cartwheels.
I wish you played in my dynasty league because I would be cashing in Turner for any of those RB right now. Benson is a bit iffy but if you traded me Ronnie Brown for Turner I would be doing cartwheels.
This is an interesting angle that was brought up before. The coaching familiarity aspect (and a way to get back at Dad?
) and the extra 2nd the Jets have could be factors here.
Agreed. Thought it may be more plausible than the Giants (which has also been rumored). Plus it would be a 1st rounder in the bottom 1/3 which would make possible sense for the Jets. I think whether or not a team goes after Turner will depend largely on the tender placed on him. If it's a 1st and 3rd he stays in SD, if it's a 1st he goes. The question is whether AJ wants a 1st rounder or the security of Turner as a backup (for one season only though). I think he may go for the 1st rounder and further solidify the Chargers through the draft (grab a wr with the pick). Getting a little ahead of myself though...This is an interesting angle that was brought up before. The coaching familiarity aspect (and a way to get back at Dad?) and the extra 2nd the Jets have could be factors here.
Very good point. I haven't heard much on him.
I think so, too. The tender may be prohibitively expensive, but that doesn't mean a subsequent deal can't be worked out. It was a different regime, but IIRC the Jets traded for McCareins (Colin Dowling said:
) for a 2nd rounder after he signed the RFA tender with the Titans.
My guess is that he would take a middle 1st for him and take another RB in the later rounds, maybe with the 3rd round comp. pick they are expected to get. However, I wouldn't be surprised if he remains a Charger next year since he'll be an affordable backup even at ~$2 million.Banger said:Agreed. Thought it may be more plausible than the Giants (which has also been rumored). Plus it would be a 1st rounder in the bottom 1/3 which would make possible sense for the Jets. I think whether or not a team goes after Turner will depend largely on the tender placed on him. If it's a 1st and 3rd he stays in SD, if it's a 1st he goes. The question is whether AJ wants a 1st rounder or the security of Turner as a backup (for one season only though). I think he may go for the 1st rounder and further solidify the Chargers through the draft (grab a wr with the pick). Getting a little ahead of myself though...zamboni said:This is an interesting angle that was brought up before. The coaching familiarity aspect (and a way to get back at Dad?Banger said:) and the extra 2nd the Jets have could be factors here.
I'd imagine it would be prior to the draft so that SD can use the draft pick on draft day.
I doubt it's much of a factor. Sproles is a situational runner and is counted on having more of an impact on special teams. He's not an every-down back and if anything happens to Tomlinson he wouldn't be able to step in and carry the load on this offense(maybe an offense like PHI but not the SD offense).A bigger factor imo is how SD does in the playoffs. If they lose their first playoff game then there may be a coaching change and won't be percieved as on the doorstep of something big so high picks make sense in exchange for Turner. If SD goes deep into the playoffs then I think you just keep him around as an insurance policy so an injury to Tomlinson doesn't end your '07 season. The windows of opportunity are always small in the NFL and if SD considers itself a front-runner for SB contention in '07 it makes a lot more sense to keep Turner at such a low price. This isn't a Brees-or-Rivers situation in that Tomlinson/Turner have proven in the past they can both be productive and valuable to the team at the same time while both play.Banger said:
Sproles was slated to be the No. 3 RB in SD behind LT and Burner. He was also scheduled to be the main return guy on punts (starter WR Eric Parker is handling that) and kickoffs (Burner when healthy is the main deep back on kickoff but since he has been hurt, rookie first round pick and CB Antonio Cromartie has ben doing it). Sproles is a good player. He is short but incredibly fast. He could be a good No. 2 RB to back up LT and I am sure AJ Smith can find a gem in the draft be a solid No. 3 or No. 2 RB behind Mr. Everything, LT.Edited to add: Sproled broke his leg in the preseason game vs. the Packers. Nothing major that required surgery but your garden variety broken leg. Should have no ill effects from it next season. He was just shelved for the season because the healing process was going to be too long to hold a roster spot for him.Banger said:
... or during the draft if a player SD projects high in the first round slips to the late first round. Guys slip every year. A lot of people say McNeil slipped though I thought he was drafted in the vicinity of where he was projected to go.
I think it's likely that AJ may try to deal him for a 1st or 2nd (and maybe a player back). How about Cotchery and 2nd? (Jets probably wouldn't do it). Then use one of their 3rds to pickup a Norwood/Calhoun type RB to take Turners place.
A 1st may be too much, but I think a 2nd and a player isn't out of the question IMO.
I agree.
what about Washington or Houston?
Given that Blaylock is probably an underdog to overtake Sproles for the number two job, I don't think he adds much to the equation. A second plus Blaylock is very similar to just a second. A second plus Cotchery, on the other hand, would be an attractive deal for the Chargers if the Jets were willing to do it.
Imagine VJ, Gates and Cotchery as the starting receiving corp over the next few years. Scary.
Not to mention that LT guy in the backfield... feels good to be Philip Rivers...($ might become a factor here)
Indeed - Cotchery was Rivers' go-to guy at NC State, so there's more than a passing familiarity. As for Blaylock mentioned earlier, he's almost certainly going to kicked to the curb, so I doubt he would be in any deal.It's all idle speculation of course, but certainly fun.
I dont think the Jets are interested in giving up Cotchery. Maybe its just meIndeed - Cotchery was Rivers' go-to guy at NC State, so there's more than a passing familiarity. As for Blaylock mentioned earlier, he's almost certainly going to kicked to the curb, so I doubt he would be in any deal.It's all idle speculation of course, but certainly fun.
I do agree - as a Jets homer, I can tell you that Mangini loves the kid. But that doesn't mean that he wouldn't be tradeable if the right offer came along.I dont think the Jets are interested in giving up Cotchery. Maybe its just meIndeed - Cotchery was Rivers' go-to guy at NC State, so there's more than a passing familiarity. As for Blaylock mentioned earlier, he's almost certainly going to kicked to the curb, so I doubt he would be in any deal.It's all idle speculation of course, but certainly fun.
Good Lord -- this is off topic but -- when LT2 is on Madden - and unless he says no, he will be - but can you imagine the amount of people that will break ankles coming off the bandwagon.Millions could perish./tangent
Jets will give up draft picks before trading him in my opinion. Theres no reason the Jets just cant take him from the Chargers by offering big money and conceding 1st and 3rd rd picks.I do agree - as a Jets homer, I can tell you that Mangini loves the kid. But that doesn't mean that he wouldn't be tradeable if the right offer came along.I dont think the Jets are interested in giving up Cotchery. Maybe its just meIndeed - Cotchery was Rivers' go-to guy at NC State, so there's more than a passing familiarity. As for Blaylock mentioned earlier, he's almost certainly going to kicked to the curb, so I doubt he would be in any deal.It's all idle speculation of course, but certainly fun.
The other San Diego Chargers running back, Michael Turner, will be a highly sought after restricted free agent in 2007, with the New York Jets being a key bidder.Turner is averaging 5.9 yards per carry for his career, although only rushing 58 times this year with LaDainian Tomlinson getting the bulk of Charger carries. The Jets are without a true No. 1 back.
