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Michael Vick reveals his old time in the 40 and his new time (1 Viewer)

Goes to show what a silly metric 40 times really are. Quickness and shiftiness are FAR more important, particularly for non-WRs and DBs.

 
One thing about Vick that's always surprised me is that he's always been very articulate and well spoken.

Most of these athletes just spout cliche's and usually sound dumb as a brick.

 
Goes to show what a silly metric 40 times really are. Quickness and shiftiness are FAR more important, particularly for non-WRs and DBs.
eh - I think they can be significant. For example, on MNF I was blown away by the speed Desean Jackson showed in catching that first bomb of the night. At one point Landry was a couple of yards in front of Jackson - then Jackson turned on the jets and in less than 15 yards he had gone from being a couple of yards behind to a couple of yards in front.
 
One thing about Vick that's always surprised me is that he's always been very articulate and well spoken. Most of these athletes just spout cliche's and usually sound dumb as a brick.
I DON'T think has always been articulate and well spoken.... in fact, this interview is the first time I've heard him talk in a way that bespeaks his intelligent. He seems to have made a conscious effort to speak more clearly and lucidly.
 
still seems fast to me.. earlier in the year he was lightning fast he seems a little slower now, i know he had a ankle botherin him! what was his old speed to his new one hes still young enough to be runnign same speed

 
One thing about Vick that's always surprised me is that he's always been very articulate and well spoken. Most of these athletes just spout cliche's and usually sound dumb as a brick.
I DON'T think has always been articulate and well spoken.... in fact, this interview is the first time I've heard him talk in a way that bespeaks his intelligent. He seems to have made a conscious effort to speak more clearly and lucidly.
Actually... ever since he got released he's spoken this way in every interview I've seen him in, at least in the locker room/post game ones.
 
Goes to show what a silly metric 40 times really are. Quickness and shiftiness are FAR more important, particularly for non-WRs and DBs.
eh - I think they can be significant. For example, on MNF I was blown away by the speed Desean Jackson showed in catching that first bomb of the night. At one point Landry was a couple of yards in front of Jackson - then Jackson turned on the jets and in less than 15 yards he had gone from being a couple of yards behind to a couple of yards in front.
His straight line speed doesn't seem as fast, but still every bit as shifty and quick from what I see.
 
Having been at the game on Monday, the dude is flat out fast. I don't care what his 40 time was... with the juke moves he was putting on, I was impressed. To be honest, and in my opinion, tv made him seem slower than what he is IRL.

 
Goes to show what a silly metric 40 times really are. Quickness and shiftiness are FAR more important, particularly for non-WRs and DBs.
eh - I think they can be significant. For example, on MNF I was blown away by the speed Desean Jackson showed in catching that first bomb of the night. At one point Landry was a couple of yards in front of Jackson - then Jackson turned on the jets and in less than 15 yards he had gone from being a couple of yards behind to a couple of yards in front.
And yet LaRon Landry ran a 4.35 forty, the same as Jackson, but Jackson made Landry look like he was standing still.
 
Don't forget 40 times are measured from a standing start and in a straight line. Mid-route acceleration, in a post route like Jackson ran IIRC, is very different, IMO - just like a car that may have a low 0-60 time may not be as fast from 60-120. Plus, the WR has the advantage of knowing when he's going to open it up. The DB has to make an educated guess and doesn't want to get beat. Even a split second's difference can result in significant separation.

 
I had actually commented to some friends that I thought "he looked a step slower, and it seems to have improved his game" earlier in the year.

Sure, he still looks very fast and quick. Especially as a quarterback. But he looks smoother and less jitterbug-ee.

 
Having been at the game on Monday, the dude is flat out fast. I don't care what his 40 time was... with the juke moves he was putting on, I was impressed. To be honest, and in my opinion, tv made him seem slower than what he is IRL.
I agree in the Eagles first game against the packers. Vick looked lightning fast, now he looks slower ,maybe because hes taking off a little later because hes keeping his eyes down the field. But ive heard analyst say during his games that it might not look like hes that fast on tv, but in person,hes really fast. Also hes still wearing a flack jacket from his rib injury, but i dont know if that would make a player run slower though.
 
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A 4.4 40 at the age of 30 from the QB position, hell, from any position, is still lightning fast. In fact, I doubt there are but a handful of QB's ever to play in this league who could consistently run a 4.4 40 at the age of 22, let alone 30.

And as others have said, what's even more important is his burst and acceleration. When Vick decides to run, he bursts out of the pocket and into the second level like he was shot from a cannon. And of course he also has some worldclass elusiveness.

In any case, I truly believe that, barring serious injury (and I'm not discounting this as a possibility by any means given his propensity to take some big hits), he'll be one of those rare athletes still running in the 4.5 range well into his late 30's.

 
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I had actually commented to some friends that I thought "he looked a step slower, and it seems to have improved his game" earlier in the year.Sure, he still looks very fast and quick. Especially as a quarterback. But he looks smoother and less jitterbug-ee.
Agreed. He seems to be running more confidently and under control this season. Andy Reid is a miracle worker.
 
"Is that a gobbler? A Hokie? What is that?"

"Yeah, that's the Hokie Bird, he ran a 4.22."

 
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One thing about Vick that's always surprised me is that he's always been very articulate and well spoken. Most of these athletes just spout cliche's and usually sound dumb as a brick.
lol his interviews the first couple of years after college were nothing but cliches in nearly indecipherable ebonics. The only thing I could understand for sure was 'know what I'm sayin' after every phrase he uttered.yeah, I assume you were joking
 
One thing about Vick that's always surprised me is that he's always been very articulate and well spoken. Most of these athletes just spout cliche's and usually sound dumb as a brick.
lol his interviews the first couple of years after college were nothing but cliches in nearly indecipherable ebonics. The only thing I could understand for sure was 'know what I'm sayin' after every phrase he uttered.yeah, I assume you were joking
Why would I be joking, did you watch the video or seen his recent interviews?I don't agree with the whole dog thing, but he does seem like a changed man.
 
ttea said:
shakaka said:
ttea said:
One thing about Vick that's always surprised me is that he's always been very articulate and well spoken. Most of these athletes just spout cliche's and usually sound dumb as a brick.
lol his interviews the first couple of years after college were nothing but cliches in nearly indecipherable ebonics. The only thing I could understand for sure was 'know what I'm sayin' after every phrase he uttered.yeah, I assume you were joking
Why would I be joking, did you watch the video or seen his recent interviews?I don't agree with the whole dog thing, but he does seem like a changed man.
I definitely think he is very different. How could anyone NOT be?
 
njherdfan said:
The_Man said:
mbuehner said:
Goes to show what a silly metric 40 times really are. Quickness and shiftiness are FAR more important, particularly for non-WRs and DBs.
eh - I think they can be significant. For example, on MNF I was blown away by the speed Desean Jackson showed in catching that first bomb of the night. At one point Landry was a couple of yards in front of Jackson - then Jackson turned on the jets and in less than 15 yards he had gone from being a couple of yards behind to a couple of yards in front.
And yet LaRon Landry ran a 4.35 forty, the same as Jackson, but Jackson made Landry look like he was standing still.
You can run faster when you aren't also trying to follow/cover someone and have no idea which way they are going to run.
 
karmarooster said:
ttea said:
One thing about Vick that's always surprised me is that he's always been very articulate and well spoken. Most of these athletes just spout cliche's and usually sound dumb as a brick.
I DON'T think has always been articulate and well spoken.... in fact, this interview is the first time I've heard him talk in a way that bespeaks his intelligent. He seems to have made a conscious effort to speak more clearly and lucidly.
I think what you are seeing here is maturity. The kind of maturity sitting in prison for a year and a half, when you could be in limos and mansions. Has a way of making a guy grow up sometimes. Especially when under the tutelage of Reid/mcnabb.
 
karmarooster said:
ttea said:
One thing about Vick that's always surprised me is that he's always been very articulate and well spoken. Most of these athletes just spout cliche's and usually sound dumb as a brick.
I DON'T think has always been articulate and well spoken.... in fact, this interview is the first time I've heard him talk in a way that bespeaks his intelligent. He seems to have made a conscious effort to speak more clearly and lucidly.
I remember after the whole dog thing broke, he was in public, and a reporter asked him if he felt that he would be exonerated of all charges. He paused for a bit, and you can tell he had no idea what that meant, and he said "no comment". I always thought that was funny. He is older/more mature now/ and has paid his dues, so I'm sure his media interactions are a bit easier now.
 
njherdfan said:
The_Man said:
mbuehner said:
Goes to show what a silly metric 40 times really are. Quickness and shiftiness are FAR more important, particularly for non-WRs and DBs.
eh - I think they can be significant. For example, on MNF I was blown away by the speed Desean Jackson showed in catching that first bomb of the night. At one point Landry was a couple of yards in front of Jackson - then Jackson turned on the jets and in less than 15 yards he had gone from being a couple of yards behind to a couple of yards in front.
And yet LaRon Landry ran a 4.35 forty, the same as Jackson, but Jackson made Landry look like he was standing still.
Bad example. Landry has put on 35 pounds of muscle since the combine. DeSean is still build like a middle-schooler.
 
ttea said:
shakaka said:
ttea said:
One thing about Vick that's always surprised me is that he's always been very articulate and well spoken. Most of these athletes just spout cliche's and usually sound dumb as a brick.
lol his interviews the first couple of years after college were nothing but cliches in nearly indecipherable ebonics. The only thing I could understand for sure was 'know what I'm sayin' after every phrase he uttered.yeah, I assume you were joking
Why would I be joking, did you watch the video or seen his recent interviews?I don't agree with the whole dog thing, but he does seem like a changed man.
you would be joking because he was never articulate and well spoken, he isn't now, and he probably never will bebeing able to put together a complete sentence every now and then doesn't make him Hemingway lol
 
dennis.moore said:
plyka said:
vandyt said:
dennis.moore said:
Which dolt on Monday night said that he runs under a 4 second forty on game days?
It was Gruden...was just painful to listen to.Yes, coach, hes the fastest sprinter in the world.
It was Jaws and he was just being sarcastic --i.e. it doesn't matter what his normal 40 time is cause on game day he is sub 4.0. It was a joke.
If it was a joke, it was a stupid lame one.
:bag: Didn't get the "joke".
 
ttea said:
shakaka said:
ttea said:
One thing about Vick that's always surprised me is that he's always been very articulate and well spoken.

Most of these athletes just spout cliche's and usually sound dumb as a brick.
lol his interviews the first couple of years after college were nothing but cliches in nearly indecipherable ebonics. The only thing I could understand for sure was 'know what I'm sayin' after every phrase he uttered.

yeah, I assume you were joking
Why would I be joking, did you watch the video or seen his recent interviews?I don't agree with the whole dog thing, but he does seem like a changed man.
you would be joking because he was never articulate and well spoken, he isn't now, and he probably never will bebeing able to put together a complete sentence every now and then doesn't make him Hemingway lol
Seemed fine even on draft day. Vick the "inarticulate ebonics spouting thug" is just another falsehood about his Atlanta days just as people say he wasnt a winning qb when he was there and played with the "great" Roddy White.
 
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jlaw said:
Don't forget 40 times are measured from a standing start and in a straight line. Mid-route acceleration, in a post route like Jackson ran IIRC, is very different, IMO - just like a car that may have a low 0-60 time may not be as fast from 60-120. Plus, the WR has the advantage of knowing when he's going to open it up. The DB has to make an educated guess and doesn't want to get beat. Even a split second's difference can result in significant separation.
A sprinter covers about 1 yard for 1/10 of a second. Reaction time for sprinters is about 15/00 of a second. So, when a sprinter accelerates, you can assume he will move 2 or 3 feet before the covering person realizes he has done so, and accelerates himself. That's how he gets separation.
 
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njherdfan said:
The_Man said:
mbuehner said:
Goes to show what a silly metric 40 times really are. Quickness and shiftiness are FAR more important, particularly for non-WRs and DBs.
eh - I think they can be significant. For example, on MNF I was blown away by the speed Desean Jackson showed in catching that first bomb of the night. At one point Landry was a couple of yards in front of Jackson - then Jackson turned on the jets and in less than 15 yards he had gone from being a couple of yards behind to a couple of yards in front.
And yet LaRon Landry ran a 4.35 forty, the same as Jackson, but Jackson made Landry look like he was standing still.
You can run faster when you aren't also trying to follow/cover someone and have no idea which way they are going to run.
The play I watched he just flat out blew by him. There's no shame in getting dusted by DeSean but Landry knew where he was going, it's called "the end zone". :thumbup:
 
ttea said:
One thing about Vick that's always surprised me is that he's always been very articulate and well spoken. Most of these athletes just spout cliche's and usually sound dumb as a brick.
Yeah he sounds brilliant
 
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