Microsoft Announces "Surface" Tablet (1 Viewer)

[Otis]

Purchased.

 

[Koya]

Purchased.

The chicks dig it, too.

Not even kidding.

 

[Otis]

Got mine in. Typing on this keyboard isn't bad actually. Still struggling to get used to Windoze. Lord what a mess of a software system Microsoft makes. Conversely I installed my dad's $200 Chromebox today. What a simple, straightforward, intuitive OS that is.

Hopefully I'll get used to this. So far I'm just sort of

Hardware is decent. Things aren't uber fast or responsive, but fine. So far slightly underwhelmed. We'll see if that changes.

 

[Otis]

I will say, when I figured how how to "launch Chrome in Windows 8 mode," it basically makes this thing look like a Chromebook. Sort of tons better this way.

 

[Otis]

Esh. Returning this thing today. Really not impressed with any aspect of it. Guess I will pick up a new chromebook at a fifth of the cost.

 

[Abraham]

That was quick. Guess it's not for everyone. I use mine all the time.

 

[Mario Kart]

Esh. Returning this thing today. Really not impressed with any aspect of it. Guess I will pick up a new chromebook at a fifth of the cost.

This is my fear had I bought one. It's great but I wouldn't use it for its intended purposes since the alternative I have, MacBook pro, is a better fit for me. I'm hoping apple can mimic the surface pro 3 in their own way.

 

[Abraham]

One of the best things is the built in photo editing software. I realize that it a windows thing and not exclusive to surface, but with the touch screen and stylus it is crazy easy to edit photos and do cool things with them.

 

[cstu]

Got mine in. Typing on this keyboard isn't bad actually. Still struggling to get used to Windoze. Lord what a mess of a software system Microsoft makes. Conversely I installed my dad's $200 Chromebox today. What a simple, straightforward, intuitive OS that is.

Hopefully I'll get used to this. So far I'm just sort of

Hardware is decent. Things aren't uber fast or responsive, but fine. So far slightly underwhelmed. We'll see if that changes.

If you're not a fan of Windows then I wouldn't expect you to like it. I still haven't upgraded to Win8 and will hold off until Win10 before seriously considering the Surface.

Which version did you get?

 

[jhib]

I use Windows 8.1 at work and at home all of the time. I'm nearly a fan but I reserve a little hate for the damn charms bar that is always getting in my way on the right-hand side of the display. It's annoying and worthless, and best I can tell there is no way to turn it off.

When is it popping up for you?

If it's when your cursor goes to the top right, you can turn it off by right-clicking the taskbar - Properties - Navigation tab - uncheck "when I point to the upper right corner, show charms."

(I think this was new in 8.1)

If it's from swiping a certain way on your touchpad or mouse, you should be able to turn that off in your mouse settings.

 

[Koya]

I suppose if you really want the Mac environment or another OS there are other options. As to the chrome book, is it both a great laptop and a great tablet? That's what I love about the Surface.

I was not a big fan two days in as there are certainly a number of quirks, but while it's hardly perfect, the form, functionality and windows are a great trifecta for me.

I usually use it in windows desktop mode but have a number of apps on the start screen too. Great for watching NFL games as well.

 

[Otis]

Got mine in. Typing on this keyboard isn't bad actually. Still struggling to get used to Windoze. Lord what a mess of a software system Microsoft makes. Conversely I installed my dad's $200 Chromebox today. What a simple, straightforward, intuitive OS that is.

Hopefully I'll get used to this. So far I'm just sort of

Hardware is decent. Things aren't uber fast or responsive, but fine. So far slightly underwhelmed. We'll see if that changes.

If you're not a fan of Windows then I wouldn't expect you to like it. I still haven't upgraded to Win8 and will hold off until Win10 before seriously considering the Surface.

Which version did you get?

Got the Pro 3, i5 processor.

Really did not like windows at all. Granted I'm on Windows at work and spend far too many hours on that machine all week long. I believe we're on Windows 7 there. It's fine for work purposes. For home I've always liked a slicker OS -- the Mac OS is superior in so many ways. Maybe I should just go back to Mac.

So on the whole, it felt sluggish (windows etc. don't drag as smoothly as they do on a mac), the keyboard was serviceable but not great, the tablet screen was sort of heavy for what you'd use a tablet for, and I hated the OS. When I first set it up it wasn't booting so I had to force reboot a few times. Reminded me of the old BSOD days.

On the bright side, the Microsoft store in the mall where I went to return it is much more slick than MS used to be. It was a pretty massive operation. Reminded me of a clone of an Apple store with an MS twist. Credit to MS for trying to get relevant for the home again. But on the whole, the computing experience was far crappier than all my Macbooks and even crappier than the $250 Chromebox I installed for my old man a few days ago. That thing was easy, instant, quick, and slick. Streamlined.

I guess if you're a guy who has some specialty programming that requires microsoft for one reason or another, I could see going for a Surface. But for my needs -- web, e-mail, word processing, messaging, some games, and Citrix terminal connection into my office, I don't see any upside in a windows machine.

 

[Koya]

Got mine in. Typing on this keyboard isn't bad actually. Still struggling to get used to Windoze. Lord what a mess of a software system Microsoft makes. Conversely I installed my dad's $200 Chromebox today. What a simple, straightforward, intuitive OS that is.

Hopefully I'll get used to this. So far I'm just sort of

Hardware is decent. Things aren't uber fast or responsive, but fine. So far slightly underwhelmed. We'll see if that changes.

If you're not a fan of Windows then I wouldn't expect you to like it. I still haven't upgraded to Win8 and will hold off until Win10 before seriously considering the Surface.

Which version did you get?

Got the Pro 3, i5 processor.

Really did not like windows at all. Granted I'm on Windows at work and spend far too many hours on that machine all week long. I believe we're on Windows 7 there. It's fine for work purposes. For home I've always liked a slicker OS -- the Mac OS is superior in so many ways. Maybe I should just go back to Mac.

So on the whole, it felt sluggish (windows etc. don't drag as smoothly as they do on a mac), the keyboard was serviceable but not great, the tablet screen was sort of heavy for what you'd use a tablet for, and I hated the OS. When I first set it up it wasn't booting so I had to force reboot a few times. Reminded me of the old BSOD days.

On the bright side, the Microsoft store in the mall where I went to return it is much more slick than MS used to be. It was a pretty massive operation. Reminded me of a clone of an Apple store with an MS twist. Credit to MS for trying to get relevant for the home again. But on the whole, the computing experience was far crappier than all my Macbooks and even crappier than the $250 Chromebox I installed for my old man a few days ago. That thing was easy, instant, quick, and slick. Streamlined.

I guess if you're a guy who has some specialty programming that requires microsoft for one reason or another, I could see going for a Surface. But for my needs -- web, e-mail, word processing, messaging, some games, and Citrix terminal connection into my office, I don't see any upside in a windows machine.

I've become more and more disenchanted with Apple. Their hardware sucks and the limitations of their software, for my use (biz, innerwebs, presenting, watching sports and entertainment, photo management), just leaves huge holes in functionality.

If you are a big Apple fan though, could see why you'd not like the Surface.

 

[Otis]

Got mine in. Typing on this keyboard isn't bad actually. Still struggling to get used to Windoze. Lord what a mess of a software system Microsoft makes. Conversely I installed my dad's $200 Chromebox today. What a simple, straightforward, intuitive OS that is.

Hopefully I'll get used to this. So far I'm just sort of

Hardware is decent. Things aren't uber fast or responsive, but fine. So far slightly underwhelmed. We'll see if that changes.

If you're not a fan of Windows then I wouldn't expect you to like it. I still haven't upgraded to Win8 and will hold off until Win10 before seriously considering the Surface.

Which version did you get?

Got the Pro 3, i5 processor.

Really did not like windows at all. Granted I'm on Windows at work and spend far too many hours on that machine all week long. I believe we're on Windows 7 there. It's fine for work purposes. For home I've always liked a slicker OS -- the Mac OS is superior in so many ways. Maybe I should just go back to Mac.

So on the whole, it felt sluggish (windows etc. don't drag as smoothly as they do on a mac), the keyboard was serviceable but not great, the tablet screen was sort of heavy for what you'd use a tablet for, and I hated the OS. When I first set it up it wasn't booting so I had to force reboot a few times. Reminded me of the old BSOD days.

On the bright side, the Microsoft store in the mall where I went to return it is much more slick than MS used to be. It was a pretty massive operation. Reminded me of a clone of an Apple store with an MS twist. Credit to MS for trying to get relevant for the home again. But on the whole, the computing experience was far crappier than all my Macbooks and even crappier than the $250 Chromebox I installed for my old man a few days ago. That thing was easy, instant, quick, and slick. Streamlined.

I guess if you're a guy who has some specialty programming that requires microsoft for one reason or another, I could see going for a Surface. But for my needs -- web, e-mail, word processing, messaging, some games, and Citrix terminal connection into my office, I don't see any upside in a windows machine.

I've become more and more disenchanted with Apple. Their hardware sucks and the limitations of their software, for my use (biz, innerwebs, presenting, watching sports and entertainment, photo management), just leaves huge holes in functionality.

If you are a big Apple fan though, could see why you'd not like the Surface.

And to be clear, I'm not a "fanboy." I have loved my Android phones (last two phones have been android); love my Chromebook; worked on Microsoft in my office; and even tried a Surface. It's not like I'm anti this thing. I really wanted to like it and hoped I would. It just didn't work for me.

The other thing that was crazy was how small the text on the screen was. It was barely useable as a touchscreen device with links etc. being that small.

 

[Uncle CornCob]

Got mine in. Typing on this keyboard isn't bad actually. Still struggling to get used to Windoze. Lord what a mess of a software system Microsoft makes. Conversely I installed my dad's $200 Chromebox today. What a simple, straightforward, intuitive OS that is.

Hopefully I'll get used to this. So far I'm just sort of

Hardware is decent. Things aren't uber fast or responsive, but fine. So far slightly underwhelmed. We'll see if that changes.

If you're not a fan of Windows then I wouldn't expect you to like it. I still haven't upgraded to Win8 and will hold off until Win10 before seriously considering the Surface.

Which version did you get?

Got the Pro 3, i5 processor.

Really did not like windows at all. Granted I'm on Windows at work and spend far too many hours on that machine all week long. I believe we're on Windows 7 there. It's fine for work purposes. For home I've always liked a slicker OS -- the Mac OS is superior in so many ways. Maybe I should just go back to Mac.

So on the whole, it felt sluggish (windows etc. don't drag as smoothly as they do on a mac), the keyboard was serviceable but not great, the tablet screen was sort of heavy for what you'd use a tablet for, and I hated the OS. When I first set it up it wasn't booting so I had to force reboot a few times. Reminded me of the old BSOD days.

On the bright side, the Microsoft store in the mall where I went to return it is much more slick than MS used to be. It was a pretty massive operation. Reminded me of a clone of an Apple store with an MS twist. Credit to MS for trying to get relevant for the home again. But on the whole, the computing experience was far crappier than all my Macbooks and even crappier than the $250 Chromebox I installed for my old man a few days ago. That thing was easy, instant, quick, and slick. Streamlined.

I guess if you're a guy who has some specialty programming that requires microsoft for one reason or another, I could see going for a Surface. But for my needs -- web, e-mail, word processing, messaging, some games, and Citrix terminal connection into my office, I don't see any upside in a windows machine.

I've become more and more disenchanted with Apple. Their hardware sucks and the limitations of their software, for my use (biz, innerwebs, presenting, watching sports and entertainment, photo management), just leaves huge holes in functionality.

Same here. Was a big apple user but I'm still with the iPad. I just haven't found the same tablet experience on android that I have on my phone. However I'm intrigued by the surface just wish it was a little bit cheaper

 

[Koya]

Got mine in. Typing on this keyboard isn't bad actually. Still struggling to get used to Windoze. Lord what a mess of a software system Microsoft makes. Conversely I installed my dad's $200 Chromebox today. What a simple, straightforward, intuitive OS that is.

Hopefully I'll get used to this. So far I'm just sort of

Hardware is decent. Things aren't uber fast or responsive, but fine. So far slightly underwhelmed. We'll see if that changes.

If you're not a fan of Windows then I wouldn't expect you to like it. I still haven't upgraded to Win8 and will hold off until Win10 before seriously considering the Surface.

Which version did you get?

Got the Pro 3, i5 processor.

Really did not like windows at all. Granted I'm on Windows at work and spend far too many hours on that machine all week long. I believe we're on Windows 7 there. It's fine for work purposes. For home I've always liked a slicker OS -- the Mac OS is superior in so many ways. Maybe I should just go back to Mac.

So on the whole, it felt sluggish (windows etc. don't drag as smoothly as they do on a mac), the keyboard was serviceable but not great, the tablet screen was sort of heavy for what you'd use a tablet for, and I hated the OS. When I first set it up it wasn't booting so I had to force reboot a few times. Reminded me of the old BSOD days.

On the bright side, the Microsoft store in the mall where I went to return it is much more slick than MS used to be. It was a pretty massive operation. Reminded me of a clone of an Apple store with an MS twist. Credit to MS for trying to get relevant for the home again. But on the whole, the computing experience was far crappier than all my Macbooks and even crappier than the $250 Chromebox I installed for my old man a few days ago. That thing was easy, instant, quick, and slick. Streamlined.

I guess if you're a guy who has some specialty programming that requires microsoft for one reason or another, I could see going for a Surface. But for my needs -- web, e-mail, word processing, messaging, some games, and Citrix terminal connection into my office, I don't see any upside in a windows machine.

I've become more and more disenchanted with Apple. Their hardware sucks and the limitations of their software, for my use (biz, innerwebs, presenting, watching sports and entertainment, photo management), just leaves huge holes in functionality.

If you are a big Apple fan though, could see why you'd not like the Surface.

And to be clear, I'm not a "fanboy." I have loved my Android phones (last two phones have been android); love my Chromebook; worked on Microsoft in my office; and even tried a Surface. It's not like I'm anti this thing. I really wanted to like it and hoped I would. It just didn't work for me.

The other thing that was crazy was how small the text on the screen was. It was barely useable as a touchscreen device with links etc. being that small.

I hear ya - to each their own.

FWIW, you can increase the text size.

 

[Abraham]

How do you increase the default text size?

 

[Koya]

How do you increase the default text size?

Control Panel --> Display

 

[TheIronSheik]

Thinking about getting one of these for the family Christmas present. But I have no idea what I'm even looking at. If I want to use it like a laptop (with a keyboard) what do I need to buy? This thing will be used mainly for low end stuff (school projects, surfing the internet, etc.). What model do I want? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

TIA

TIS

 

[cstu]

Thinking about getting one of these for the family Christmas present. But I have no idea what I'm even looking at. If I want to use it like a laptop (with a keyboard) what do I need to buy? This thing will be used mainly for low end stuff (school projects, surfing the internet, etc.). What model do I want? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

TIA

TIS

If it's for basic tasks then a i3 with 64GB is good enough. Get the type cover.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Thinking about getting one of these for the family Christmas present. But I have no idea what I'm even looking at. If I want to use it like a laptop (with a keyboard) what do I need to buy? This thing will be used mainly for low end stuff (school projects, surfing the internet, etc.). What model do I want? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

TIA

TIS

If it's for basic tasks then a i3 with 64GB is good enough. Get the type cover.

What's a type cover?

 

[TheIronSheik]

Thinking about getting one of these for the family Christmas present. But I have no idea what I'm even looking at. If I want to use it like a laptop (with a keyboard) what do I need to buy? This thing will be used mainly for low end stuff (school projects, surfing the internet, etc.). What model do I want? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

TIA

TIS

If it's for basic tasks then a i3 with 64GB is good enough. Get the type cover.

What's a type cover?

Also, (and I feel like a moron for having to ask questions like these since I'm in IT), I want the one that I can put Office on. Is that this one?

 

[cstu]

Thinking about getting one of these for the family Christmas present. But I have no idea what I'm even looking at. If I want to use it like a laptop (with a keyboard) what do I need to buy? This thing will be used mainly for low end stuff (school projects, surfing the internet, etc.). What model do I want? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

TIA

TIS

If it's for basic tasks then a i3 with 64GB is good enough. Get the type cover.

What's a type cover?

Also, (and I feel like a moron for having to ask questions like these since I'm in IT), I want the one that I can put Office on. Is that this one?

The type cover is the one which feels like a real keyboard.

The Pro is the version that runs Windows and you can put Office on.

 

[Otis]

Thinking about getting one of these for the family Christmas present. But I have no idea what I'm even looking at. If I want to use it like a laptop (with a keyboard) what do I need to buy? This thing will be used mainly for low end stuff (school projects, surfing the internet, etc.). What model do I want? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

TIA

TIS

If it's for basic tasks then a i3 with 64GB is good enough. Get the type cover.

What's a type cover?

Also, (and I feel like a moron for having to ask questions like these since I'm in IT), I want the one that I can put Office on. Is that this one?

The type cover is the one which feels like a real keyboard.

The Pro is the version that runs Windows and you can put Office on.

x

 

[Koya]

Thinking about getting one of these for the family Christmas present. But I have no idea what I'm even looking at. If I want to use it like a laptop (with a keyboard) what do I need to buy? This thing will be used mainly for low end stuff (school projects, surfing the internet, etc.). What model do I want? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

TIA

TIS

If it's for basic tasks then a i3 with 64GB is good enough. Get the type cover.

What's a type cover?

Also, (and I feel like a moron for having to ask questions like these since I'm in IT), I want the one that I can put Office on. Is that this one?

The type cover is the one which feels like a real keyboard.

The Pro is the version that runs Windows and you can put Office on.

x

It's better than most laptop keyboards I've had.

Plus, easy and cheap enough to buy whatever keyboard the u want for home/office

 

[Otis]

Thinking about getting one of these for the family Christmas present. But I have no idea what I'm even looking at. If I want to use it like a laptop (with a keyboard) what do I need to buy? This thing will be used mainly for low end stuff (school projects, surfing the internet, etc.). What model do I want? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

TIA

TIS

If it's for basic tasks then a i3 with 64GB is good enough. Get the type cover.

What's a type cover?

Also, (and I feel like a moron for having to ask questions like these since I'm in IT), I want the one that I can put Office on. Is that this one?

The type cover is the one which feels like a real keyboard.

The Pro is the version that runs Windows and you can put Office on.

x

It's better than most laptop keyboards I've had.

Plus, easy and cheap enough to buy whatever keyboard the u want for home/office

Well, you must have had some pretty crappy laptop keyboards. It's not nearly as good as any Macbook keyboard I've had. It's not as good as any Chromebook keyboard I've had. It's a pretty crappy keyboard.

 

[Koya]

Thinking about getting one of these for the family Christmas present. But I have no idea what I'm even looking at. If I want to use it like a laptop (with a keyboard) what do I need to buy? This thing will be used mainly for low end stuff (school projects, surfing the internet, etc.). What model do I want? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

TIA

TIS

If it's for basic tasks then a i3 with 64GB is good enough. Get the type cover.

What's a type cover?

Also, (and I feel like a moron for having to ask questions like these since I'm in IT), I want the one that I can put Office on. Is that this one?

The type cover is the one which feels like a real keyboard.

The Pro is the version that runs Windows and you can put Office on.

x

It's better than most laptop keyboards I've had.

Plus, easy and cheap enough to buy whatever keyboard the u want for home/office

Well, you must have had some pretty crappy laptop keyboards. It's not nearly as good as any Macbook keyboard I've had. It's not as good as any Chromebook keyboard I've had. It's a pretty crappy keyboard.

Generally speaking, I can't stand mac keyboards.

Different Strokes I suppose.

 

[cstu]

It's better than most laptop keyboards I've had.

Plus, easy and cheap enough to buy whatever keyboard the u want for home/office

Exactly. The keyboard isn't meant for extended use IMO. If you need to type a lot then buy the dock and hook it up to a monitor/keyboard/mouse.

 

[the moops]

Generally speaking, I can't stand mac keyboards.

Different Strokes I suppose.

Macs have their problems. Keyboards and displays and trackpads they nailed though. You are nuts.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Got to play with one of these today. I like Windows and would prefer to be on it on every platform and I liked the Surface, except the touchpad which was basically unusable and a deal breaker for me. The keyboard was surprisingly good. But man that touchpad.

Same as the Yogo Pro 3. Awesome machine....teeny tiny touchpad. Is it a requirement that you have to make your touchpad a POS if you're making a windows device? Don't really like Apple anything but I'm still rolling with a MacBook Air as my laptop because the touchpad is just that much better.

 

[Otis]

Got to play with one of these today. I like Windows and would prefer to be on it on every platform and I liked the Surface, except the touchpad which was basically unusable and a deal breaker for me. The keyboard was surprisingly good. But man that touchpad.

Same as the Yogo Pro 3. Awesome machine....teeny tiny touchpad. Is it a requirement that you have to make your touchpad a POS if you're making a windows device? Don't really like Apple anything but I'm still rolling with a MacBook Air as my laptop because the touchpad is just that much better.

Apple still nails the whole interface experience. Keyboard, touchpad, gestures, general usability. It's such a better more human factors-driven design. I've tried everything out there with an open mind. I keep coming back to it as the best. As much as it annoys me when Apple tries to trap me in their ecosystem with their crappy iTunes and iThiss and thats. The OS is awesome, but give me some freedom please.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Got to play with one of these today. I like Windows and would prefer to be on it on every platform and I liked the Surface, except the touchpad which was basically unusable and a deal breaker for me. The keyboard was surprisingly good. But man that touchpad.

Same as the Yogo Pro 3. Awesome machine....teeny tiny touchpad. Is it a requirement that you have to make your touchpad a POS if you're making a windows device? Don't really like Apple anything but I'm still rolling with a MacBook Air as my laptop because the touchpad is just that much better.

Use the touchscreen or stylus.

 

[cstu]

Generally speaking, I can't stand mac keyboards.

Different Strokes I suppose.

Macs have their problems. Keyboards and displays and trackpads they nailed though. You are nuts.

Do they make one of these?

 

[Abraham]

Got to play with one of these today. I like Windows and would prefer to be on it on every platform and I liked the Surface, except the touchpad which was basically unusable and a deal breaker for me. The keyboard was surprisingly good. But man that touchpad.

Same as the Yogo Pro 3. Awesome machine....teeny tiny touchpad. Is it a requirement that you have to make your touchpad a POS if you're making a windows device? Don't really like Apple anything but I'm still rolling with a MacBook Air as my laptop because the touchpad is just that much better.

Apple still nails the whole interface experience. Keyboard, touchpad, gestures, general usability. It's such a better more human factors-driven design. I've tried everything out there with an open mind. I keep coming back to it as the best. As much as it annoys me when Apple tries to trap me in their ecosystem with their crappy iTunes and iThiss and thats. The OS is awesome, but give me some freedom please.

What do you use for music and photos?

 

[belljr]

So for a 10 inch non ipad tablet it's this or galaxy?

 

[msommer]

So for a 10 inch non ipad tablet it's this or galaxy?

Asus t-100 is a possibility

 

[Slapdash]

It's better than most laptop keyboards I've had.

Plus, easy and cheap enough to buy whatever keyboard the u want for home/office

Exactly. The keyboard isn't meant for extended use IMO. If you need to type a lot then buy the dock and hook it up to a monitor/keyboard/mouse.

May as well just build a PC and buy a Chromebook or Tablet at this point.

 

[cstu]

It's better than most laptop keyboards I've had.

Plus, easy and cheap enough to buy whatever keyboard the u want for home/office

Exactly. The keyboard isn't meant for extended use IMO. If you need to type a lot then buy the dock and hook it up to a monitor/keyboard/mouse.

May as well just build a PC and buy a Chromebook or Tablet at this point.

You could but using the Surface Pro as your tablet and PC you don't have to worry about files being on different computers, making sure both have the same programs on them and are up to date.

 

[the moops]

Generally speaking, I can't stand mac keyboards.

Different Strokes I suppose.

Macs have their problems. Keyboards and displays and trackpads they nailed though. You are nuts.

Do they make one of these?

sure is an odd looking laptop keyboard

 

[Slapdash]

It's better than most laptop keyboards I've had.

Plus, easy and cheap enough to buy whatever keyboard the u want for home/office

Exactly. The keyboard isn't meant for extended use IMO. If you need to type a lot then buy the dock and hook it up to a monitor/keyboard/mouse.

May as well just build a PC and buy a Chromebook or Tablet at this point.

You could but using the Surface Pro as your tablet and PC you don't have to worry about files being on different computers, making sure both have the same programs on them and are up to date.

Not really enough juice to use it as a PC. Just pointing out that, with all that expense adding up, you would be better off with multiple devices at the same price.

 

[Abraham]

It's better than most laptop keyboards I've had.

Plus, easy and cheap enough to buy whatever keyboard the u want for home/office

Exactly. The keyboard isn't meant for extended use IMO. If you need to type a lot then buy the dock and hook it up to a monitor/keyboard/mouse.

May as well just build a PC and buy a Chromebook or Tablet at this point.

You could but using the Surface Pro as your tablet and PC you don't have to worry about files being on different computers, making sure both have the same programs on them and are up to date.

Not really enough juice to use it as a PC. Just pointing out that, with all that expense adding up, you would be better off with multiple devices at the same price.

Mine has more than enough juice to work as a full PC (i5, 8GB, 256 SSD)

 

[Koya]

Generally speaking, I can't stand mac keyboards.

Different Strokes I suppose.

Macs have their problems. Keyboards and displays and trackpads they nailed though. You are nuts.

I happen to type very very fast - for whatever reason, I hate Apple keyboards.

 

[Koya]

It's better than most laptop keyboards I've had.

Plus, easy and cheap enough to buy whatever keyboard the u want for home/office

Exactly. The keyboard isn't meant for extended use IMO. If you need to type a lot then buy the dock and hook it up to a monitor/keyboard/mouse.

May as well just build a PC and buy a Chromebook or Tablet at this point.

You could but using the Surface Pro as your tablet and PC you don't have to worry about files being on different computers, making sure both have the same programs on them and are up to date.

Not really enough juice to use it as a PC. Just pointing out that, with all that expense adding up, you would be better off with multiple devices at the same price.

What are you doing on your PC? Outside of huge CAD or GIS programs or hardcore gaming can't see the Surface not meeting needs. Can do full Adobe suite for example.

For someone like me who does a lot of document work and creation is on the road and giving presentations it's great

 

[Otis]

Got to play with one of these today. I like Windows and would prefer to be on it on every platform and I liked the Surface, except the touchpad which was basically unusable and a deal breaker for me. The keyboard was surprisingly good. But man that touchpad.

Same as the Yogo Pro 3. Awesome machine....teeny tiny touchpad. Is it a requirement that you have to make your touchpad a POS if you're making a windows device? Don't really like Apple anything but I'm still rolling with a MacBook Air as my laptop because the touchpad is just that much better.

Apple still nails the whole interface experience. Keyboard, touchpad, gestures, general usability. It's such a better more human factors-driven design. I've tried everything out there with an open mind. I keep coming back to it as the best. As much as it annoys me when Apple tries to trap me in their ecosystem with their crappy iTunes and iThiss and thats. The OS is awesome, but give me some freedom please.

What do you use for music and photos?

Spotify is the only sane music choice. Don't have to save crap anywhere or back crap up. Don't need to buy music. I just listen to what I want, wherever I want, on whatever device I want, for 9 bucks a month. Got so tired of having to transfer my "music collection" (1s and 0s) from one device to the next, to a hard drive, etc. This is so much better.

 

[belljr]

Got to play with one of these today. I like Windows and would prefer to be on it on every platform and I liked the Surface, except the touchpad which was basically unusable and a deal breaker for me. The keyboard was surprisingly good. But man that touchpad.

Same as the Yogo Pro 3. Awesome machine....teeny tiny touchpad. Is it a requirement that you have to make your touchpad a POS if you're making a windows device? Don't really like Apple anything but I'm still rolling with a MacBook Air as my laptop because the touchpad is just that much better.

Apple still nails the whole interface experience. Keyboard, touchpad, gestures, general usability. It's such a better more human factors-driven design. I've tried everything out there with an open mind. I keep coming back to it as the best. As much as it annoys me when Apple tries to trap me in their ecosystem with their crappy iTunes and iThiss and thats. The OS is awesome, but give me some freedom please.

What do you use for music and photos?

Spotify is the only sane music choice. Don't have to save crap anywhere or back crap up. Don't need to buy music. I just listen to what I want, wherever I want, on whatever device I want, for 9 bucks a month. Got so tired of having to transfer my "music collection" (1s and 0s) from one device to the next, to a hard drive, etc. This is so much better.

what if you can't stream where you work

 

[msommer]

Got to play with one of these today. I like Windows and would prefer to be on it on every platform and I liked the Surface, except the touchpad which was basically unusable and a deal breaker for me. The keyboard was surprisingly good. But man that touchpad.

Same as the Yogo Pro 3. Awesome machine....teeny tiny touchpad. Is it a requirement that you have to make your touchpad a POS if you're making a windows device? Don't really like Apple anything but I'm still rolling with a MacBook Air as my laptop because the touchpad is just that much better.

Apple still nails the whole interface experience. Keyboard, touchpad, gestures, general usability. It's such a better more human factors-driven design. I've tried everything out there with an open mind. I keep coming back to it as the best. As much as it annoys me when Apple tries to trap me in their ecosystem with their crappy iTunes and iThiss and thats. The OS is awesome, but give me some freedom please.

What do you use for music and photos?

Spotify is the only sane music choice. Don't have to save crap anywhere or back crap up. Don't need to buy music. I just listen to what I want, wherever I want, on whatever device I want, for 9 bucks a month. Got so tired of having to transfer my "music collection" (1s and 0s) from one device to the next, to a hard drive, etc. This is so much better.

How can you live without Taylor Swift?

 

[Koya]

Got to play with one of these today. I like Windows and would prefer to be on it on every platform and I liked the Surface, except the touchpad which was basically unusable and a deal breaker for me. The keyboard was surprisingly good. But man that touchpad.

Same as the Yogo Pro 3. Awesome machine....teeny tiny touchpad. Is it a requirement that you have to make your touchpad a POS if you're making a windows device? Don't really like Apple anything but I'm still rolling with a MacBook Air as my laptop because the touchpad is just that much better.

Apple still nails the whole interface experience. Keyboard, touchpad, gestures, general usability. It's such a better more human factors-driven design. I've tried everything out there with an open mind. I keep coming back to it as the best. As much as it annoys me when Apple tries to trap me in their ecosystem with their crappy iTunes and iThiss and thats. The OS is awesome, but give me some freedom please.

What do you use for music and photos?

Spotify is the only sane music choice. Don't have to save crap anywhere or back crap up. Don't need to buy music. I just listen to what I want, wherever I want, on whatever device I want, for 9 bucks a month. Got so tired of having to transfer my "music collection" (1s and 0s) from one device to the next, to a hard drive, etc. This is so much better.

what if you can't stream where you work

You can play Spotify in offline mode for songs you choose. I have hundreds of songs available offline.

 

[Sand]

Thinking about getting one of these for the family Christmas present. But I have no idea what I'm even looking at. If I want to use it like a laptop (with a keyboard) what do I need to buy? This thing will be used mainly for low end stuff (school projects, surfing the internet, etc.). What model do I want? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

TIA

TIS

If it's for basic tasks then a i3 with 64GB is good enough. Get the type cover.

What's a type cover?

Also, (and I feel like a moron for having to ask questions like these since I'm in IT), I want the one that I can put Office on. Is that this one?

Yes, but the 64GB model really doesn't have enough storage for Office - IMO the 64GB model really is cramped for storage. The i5 8GBram 256GB model seems to be the sweet spot.

 

[Otis]

Got to play with one of these today. I like Windows and would prefer to be on it on every platform and I liked the Surface, except the touchpad which was basically unusable and a deal breaker for me. The keyboard was surprisingly good. But man that touchpad.

Same as the Yogo Pro 3. Awesome machine....teeny tiny touchpad. Is it a requirement that you have to make your touchpad a POS if you're making a windows device? Don't really like Apple anything but I'm still rolling with a MacBook Air as my laptop because the touchpad is just that much better.

Apple still nails the whole interface experience. Keyboard, touchpad, gestures, general usability. It's such a better more human factors-driven design. I've tried everything out there with an open mind. I keep coming back to it as the best. As much as it annoys me when Apple tries to trap me in their ecosystem with their crappy iTunes and iThiss and thats. The OS is awesome, but give me some freedom please.

What do you use for music and photos?

Spotify is the only sane music choice. Don't have to save crap anywhere or back crap up. Don't need to buy music. I just listen to what I want, wherever I want, on whatever device I want, for 9 bucks a month. Got so tired of having to transfer my "music collection" (1s and 0s) from one device to the next, to a hard drive, etc. This is so much better.

what if you can't stream where you work

You can play Spotify in offline mode for songs you choose. I have hundreds of songs available offline.

This times infiniti

 

[cstu]

Thinking about getting one of these for the family Christmas present. But I have no idea what I'm even looking at. If I want to use it like a laptop (with a keyboard) what do I need to buy? This thing will be used mainly for low end stuff (school projects, surfing the internet, etc.). What model do I want? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

TIA

TIS

If it's for basic tasks then a i3 with 64GB is good enough. Get the type cover.

What's a type cover?

Also, (and I feel like a moron for having to ask questions like these since I'm in IT), I want the one that I can put Office on. Is that this one?

Yes, but the 64GB model really doesn't have enough storage for Office - IMO the 64GB model really is cramped for storage. The i5 8GBram 256GB model seems to be the sweet spot.

I wouldn't pay the extra money for i5/i7 right now. If speed is important then wait for the Surface 4 which has a much more efficient Broadwell chip in it.

Also, you can throw a 128GB microsd card into the base i3/64GB to give you a 192GB for $100 more.