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Middle Aged Dummies - Artist - Round 5 - #18's have been posted. Link in OP. (37 Viewers)

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Smashing Pumpkins #28
Song: Song for a Son
Album: Teargarden by Kaleidyscope

Summary: The lone representation from Teargarden by Kaleidyscope (not available on streaming), which was slated to be a 44-song concept album, with one song being released every week (it only made it to 34). I just love the epic classic rock feel of this one, which was set in 1975 and is said to be inspired by Hendrix and Zeppelin. One of his most personal songs, Corgan has said the song is about the complicated relationship he had with his father.
 
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Smashing Pumpkins #28
Song: Song for a Son
Album: Teargarden by Kaleidyscope

Summary: The lone representation from Teargarden by Kaleidyscope (not available on streaming), which was slated to be a 44-song concept album, with one song being released every week (it only made it to 34). I just love the epic classic rock feel of this one, which was set in 1975 and is said to be inspired by Hendrix and Zeppelin. One of his most personal songs, Corgan has said the song is about the complicated relationship he had with his father.
Don't think I've ever heard this one... Wow I love it!
 
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Smashing Pumpkins #28
Song: Song for a Son
Album: Teargarden by Kaleidyscope

Summary: The lone representation from Teargarden by Kaleidyscope (not available on streaming), which was slated to be a 44-song concept album, with one song being released every week (it only made it to 34). I just love the epic classic rock feel of this one, which was set in 1975 and is said to be inspired by Hendrix and Zeppelin. One of his most personal songs, Corgan has said the song is about the complicated relationship he had with his father.
Don't think I've ever heard this one... Wow I love it!
I know right? Definitely one of the few gems I found doing the deep dive. I honestly would probably put it even higher at this point.
 
NOT ON SPOTIFY PLAYLIST

Smashing Pumpkins #28
Song: Song for a Son
Album: Teargarden by Kaleidyscope

Summary: The lone representation from Teargarden by Kaleidyscope (not available on streaming), which was slated to be a 44-song concept album, with one song being released every week (it only made it to 34). I just love the epic classic rock feel of this one, which was set in 1975 and is said to be inspired by Hendrix and Zeppelin. One of his most personal songs, Corgan has said the song is about the complicated relationship he had with his father.
Don't think I've ever heard this one... Wow I love it!
I know right? Definitely one of the few gems I found doing the deep dive. I honestly would probably put it even higher at this point.
That frustration with the non-spotify songs were a reason I crossed them off MAD31 contention. The biggest miss was a certain version of a certain song from a certain famous 90s movie soundtrack.
 
Eric Clapton #28:

Eric Clapton - I've Got a Rock 'n' Roll Heart

This song from Clapton's album "Money and Cigarettes" was released in 1983 and peaked at #18 on the Billboard Hot 100 and #6 on the Billboard Adult Contemporary charts that year. It was one of Clapton’s most commercially successful singles of the 80s and became a classic rock radio staple that served to introduce Clapton’s “clean and sober” phase to a broader audience.

This was Clapton’s first album after his recovery from alcoholism and signaled a fresh start, both personally and musically. The album’s title refers to what Clapton jokingly said he had left after rehab: “a guitar, some money, and cigarettes.”

This song is simple, feel good love song to rock and roll. It celebrates a love for music and the freedom it brings, in a way that felt genuine during Clapton’s post-recovery period. It’s not trying to be profound -- just honest and easygoing. It essentially served as a statement of Clapton's identity at that time.
 
Michael Head #28 - The Pale Fountains - "Just a Girl" (1982)

Heading back to the early 80s for the B-side of the Paleys' first single and a song that shows the influence of Burt Bacharach on Head's music. Even though Bacharach was heavy into schmaltz by the 80s, Mick and similar UK artists like Aztec Camera, Naked Eyes and Haircut 100 were inspired by the glorious 60s pop hits of Bacharach and his then lyricist Hal David.

"Just a Girl" is quite a sophisticated composition for a songwriter just out of his teens. There's a trumpet part (which brings the score to 2-2) and a taste of Spanish guitar but for me the most Bacharachy thing in the song is when he slows to half tempo with "turn..round..let...me...look...at...you" line going into the chorus. It's a romantic song with all the optimism of youth which is something that's (mostly) stayed with Head in spite of all the stuff that's happened to him in the decades since.

 
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Smashing Pumpkins #28
Song: Song for a Son
Album: Teargarden by Kaleidyscope

Summary: The lone representation from Teargarden by Kaleidyscope (not available on streaming), which was slated to be a 44-song concept album, with one song being released every week (it only made it to 34). I just love the epic classic rock feel of this one, which was set in 1975 and is said to be inspired by Hendrix and Zeppelin. One of his most personal songs, Corgan has said the song is about the complicated relationship he had with his father.
Don't think I've ever heard this one... Wow I love it!
I know right? Definitely one of the few gems I found doing the deep dive. I honestly would probably put it even higher at this point.
That frustration with the non-spotify songs were a reason I crossed them off MAD31 contention. The biggest miss was a certain version of a certain song from a certain famous 90s movie soundtrack.
For sure, it was constantly irritating me as I purposely limited the non-streaming songs when I really didn't want to. A few wound up in my last 5 out, most from Zeitgeist. And yes, the one you mention is wild to me, but it was a must include and at least has an edited Spotify version. But for authenticity, I also included the original/longer YT version.
 
Last night I saw Wilco in Charlotte. They were great, and it was a beautiful night. Today is hot and muggy.

Honesty

BJ wrote this song for his 1978 album 52nd Street. He had booked the studio for an hour, and they didn't have a song to record, but he had an idea in his head. He had thought up a melody, and he played it for the band. They all liked the melody, and BJ said he needed to write the lyrics, and he wanted a three syllable word for the title. His drummer jokingly suggested Sodomy, and they laughed about it, but it wasn't gonna work. BJ said there is a recording somewhere of him singing that. Anyway, BJ came up with the word Honesty, and wrote the lyrics on the spot. This is one of my favorite ballads by him. I like his vocals a lot on this song, and I think the subtle addition of strings is nice.

Rick Beato says "Honesty" is the perfect song. <-- It is 36 minutes long.

I can always find someone
To say they sympathize
If I wear my heart out on my sleeve
But I don't want some pretty face
To tell me pretty lies
All I want is someone to believe
 
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[/td] [td]Arthur Lee and Love[/td][td]Pip's Invitation[/td][td]Five String Serenade

My copy of Mazzy Star's So Tonight That I Might See was a promo cassette so it wasn't until today that I realized their Five String Serenade was a cover.

Apologies if somebody picked it in the covers countdown. I read your post but just forgot it.
 
[/td] [td]Arthur Lee and Love[/td][td]Pip's Invitation[/td][td]Five String Serenade

My copy of Mazzy Star's So Tonight That I Might See was a promo cassette so it wasn't until today that I realized their Five String Serenade was a cover.

Apologies if somebody picked it in the covers countdown. I read your post but just forgot it.
It was not picked there.
 
28. Five String Serenade
Album: Arthur Lee and Love (aka Five String Serenade) (1992)

Arthur Lee ended an 11-year hiatus in 1992 when he signed to the French label New Rose Records and released Arthur Lee and Love, which I bought but few other Americans did. The band included guitarist Melvan Whittington and bassist Robert Rozelle from the 1973-74 all-black version of Love, as well as drummer Gary Stern and keyboardist Tony Mikesell.

Nine of the 10 tracks range from "just barely cracked my top 50" to "atrocious" (the latter would be Lee's attempt at rap, which is too bad given what he did in the next entry). Most are decent but unmemorable. But the opener, "Five String Serenade," is absolutely gorgeous, and may be the closest Lee came after 1967 to replicating the Forever Changes sound. Lee's vocal is heart-wrenching, the minimalist synths-and-strings-heavy arrangement lets the song breathe and sounds better in reality than on paper, and the two whistling solos actually work.

Among the few other Americans who heard this record were Mazzy Star's Hope Sandoval and David Roback, who covered "Five String Serenade" (minus the whistling solos) on their 1993 album So Tonight That I Might See. That is presumably why when Arthur Lee and Love was reissued in 2001, it was retitled Five String Serenade. However, the album soon returned to obscurity and is not on Spotify. The only reason "Five String Serenade" is is because it appears on a New Rose compilation.

And today I learned that The White Stripes covered it live in 2005!

"Five String Serenade" appeared in some Lee/Love sets between 1989 and 1994, but not at my Asbury Park show, and it was never played after Lee was released from prison.

Acoustic demo from 1991: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0LQ_Ezgu34

Live acoustic version from BBC Radio in 1992 (appears on Coming Through to You: The Live Recordings (1970-2004)): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ2hoMnoLNw

Live version from Paris in 1992: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywqwCjfCDuc

Live electric version from London in 1994 (appears on Coming Through to You: The Live Recordings (1970-2004)): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewLTocuxVgg

At #27, our first of many tastes of Forever Changes.
 
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@Eephus This 1992 footage is credited to "Arthur Lee and Shack". Is that Michael Head's Shack?

 
@Eephus This 1992 footage is credited to "Arthur Lee and Shack". Is that Michael Head's Shack?


The very same. He's obscured behind Lee most of the time but that's Mick's in the bucket hat on rhythm guitar and vocals. His brother John is playing lead.

I posted a picture of the two of them earlier in the thread. It's not the same night because Lee is wearing a different outfit but it's probably the same hat.
 
28. Cornershop - You Always Said My Language Would Get Me Into Trouble

This is the final track on their first album and it sounds more like the Cornershop I was familiar with--clearly some Spacemen 3 influence (which is a very good thing). It's also more political commentary from the band which permeates most of their albums. I really enjoy this one.
 
Three known-to-me favorites from #29:

Bury Me (Smashing Pumpkins) -- As I said, it's one of my favorites from Gish and one of that album's obvious antecedents to the Siamese Dream sound.
Disciples (The Doobie Brothers) -- Some epic Allmans-style ish on this track.
Devil's Haircut (Beck) -- As I said, it's fresh and bumpin' and still holds up.

Three new-to-me favorites from #29:

The Way (The Gap Band) -- It really is like we got the Johnston Doobies and the McDonald Doobies on the same playlist.
Days Like These (People Under the Stairs) -- I'm not huge into rap, but when I like it, it's because it sounds like this -- backed by great grooves and conveying a sense of fun.
Solider Man (Shack (Michael Head)) -- Great melody, yearning vocal, interesting guitar work.
 
Last night I saw Wilco in Charlotte. They were great, and it was a beautiful night. Today is hot and muggy.

Honesty

BJ wrote this song for his 1978 album 52nd Street. He had booked the studio for an hour, and they didn't have a song to record, but he had an idea in his head. He had thought up a melody, and he played it for the band. They all liked the melody, and BJ said he needed to write the lyrics, and he wanted a three syllable word for the title. His drummer jokingly suggested Sodomy, and they laughed about it, but it wasn't gonna work. BJ said there is a recording somewhere of him singing that. Anyway, BJ came up with the word Honesty, and wrote the lyrics on the spot. This is one of my favorite ballads by him. I like his vocals a lot on this song, and I think the subtle addition of strings is nice.

Rick Beato says "Honesty" is the perfect song. <-- It is 36 minutes long.

I can always find someone
To say they sympathize
If I wear my heart out on my sleeve
But I don't want some pretty face
To tell me pretty lies
All I want is someone to believe
Artist Who Should Have Recorded This: Elton John

Joel wanted so badly to be a a love-child of Elton and Springsteen (w/Dylan as his uncle). Every song he ever did was a knockoff of one or the other. This is from the Elton side of his DNA, who was a better singer and piano player than Joel.

The other thing that bugs me about this record is the title. That's for two reasons......

1. I don't think Billy Joel has ever been honest with anyone - at least not those who have ever worked with or been in a relationship with him.

2. There are those in this thread who know my last name. The title of this thing shares the same number of syllables as mine, and several letters (all but two). I had to listen to ******* LAX bros in High School sing my last name mockingly whenever it oozed like runaway sewage through some radio's speakers.

Great choice, simey! My therapist will be happy.
 
Last night I saw Wilco in Charlotte. They were great, and it was a beautiful night. Today is hot and muggy.

Honesty

BJ wrote this song for his 1978 album 52nd Street. He had booked the studio for an hour, and they didn't have a song to record, but he had an idea in his head. He had thought up a melody, and he played it for the band. They all liked the melody, and BJ said he needed to write the lyrics, and he wanted a three syllable word for the title. His drummer jokingly suggested Sodomy, and they laughed about it, but it wasn't gonna work. BJ said there is a recording somewhere of him singing that. Anyway, BJ came up with the word Honesty, and wrote the lyrics on the spot. This is one of my favorite ballads by him. I like his vocals a lot on this song, and I think the subtle addition of strings is nice.

Rick Beato says "Honesty" is the perfect song. <-- It is 36 minutes long.

I can always find someone
To say they sympathize
If I wear my heart out on my sleeve
But I don't want some pretty face
To tell me pretty lies
All I want is someone to believe
Artist Who Should Have Recorded This: Elton John

Joel wanted so badly to be a a love-child of Elton and Springsteen (w/Dylan as his uncle). Every song he ever did was a knockoff of one or the other. This is from the Elton side of his DNA, who was a better singer and piano player than Joel.

The other thing that bugs me about this record is the title. That's for two reasons......

1. I don't think Billy Joel has ever been honest with anyone - at least not those who have ever worked with or been in a relationship with him.

2. There are those in this thread who know my last name. The title of this thing shares the same number of syllables as mine, and several letters (all but two). I had to listen to ******* LAX bros in High School sing my last name mockingly whenever it oozed like runaway sewage through some radio's speakers.

Great choice, simey! My therapist will be happy.

made me think immediately of

this.
 
Last night I saw Wilco in Charlotte. They were great, and it was a beautiful night. Today is hot and muggy.

Honesty

BJ wrote this song for his 1978 album 52nd Street. He had booked the studio for an hour, and they didn't have a song to record, but he had an idea in his head. He had thought up a melody, and he played it for the band. They all liked the melody, and BJ said he needed to write the lyrics, and he wanted a three syllable word for the title. His drummer jokingly suggested Sodomy, and they laughed about it, but it wasn't gonna work. BJ said there is a recording somewhere of him singing that. Anyway, BJ came up with the word Honesty, and wrote the lyrics on the spot. This is one of my favorite ballads by him. I like his vocals a lot on this song, and I think the subtle addition of strings is nice.

Rick Beato says "Honesty" is the perfect song. <-- It is 36 minutes long.

I can always find someone
To say they sympathize
If I wear my heart out on my sleeve
But I don't want some pretty face
To tell me pretty lies
All I want is someone to believe
Artist Who Should Have Recorded This: Elton John

Joel wanted so badly to be a a love-child of Elton and Springsteen (w/Dylan as his uncle). Every song he ever did was a knockoff of one or the other. This is from the Elton side of his DNA, who was a better singer and piano player than Joel.

The other thing that bugs me about this record is the title. That's for two reasons......

1. I don't think Billy Joel has ever been honest with anyone - at least not those who have ever worked with or been in a relationship with him.

2. There are those in this thread who know my last name. The title of this thing shares the same number of syllables as mine, and several letters (all but two). I had to listen to ******* LAX bros in High School sing my last name mockingly whenever it oozed like runaway sewage through some radio's speakers.

Great choice, simey! My therapist will be happy.

made me think immediately of

this.
How ya doing, Bink?
 
Last night I saw Wilco in Charlotte. They were great, and it was a beautiful night. Today is hot and muggy.

Honesty

BJ wrote this song for his 1978 album 52nd Street. He had booked the studio for an hour, and they didn't have a song to record, but he had an idea in his head. He had thought up a melody, and he played it for the band. They all liked the melody, and BJ said he needed to write the lyrics, and he wanted a three syllable word for the title. His drummer jokingly suggested Sodomy, and they laughed about it, but it wasn't gonna work. BJ said there is a recording somewhere of him singing that. Anyway, BJ came up with the word Honesty, and wrote the lyrics on the spot. This is one of my favorite ballads by him. I like his vocals a lot on this song, and I think the subtle addition of strings is nice.

Rick Beato says "Honesty" is the perfect song. <-- It is 36 minutes long.

I can always find someone
To say they sympathize
If I wear my heart out on my sleeve
But I don't want some pretty face
To tell me pretty lies
All I want is someone to believe
Artist Who Should Have Recorded This: Elton John

Joel wanted so badly to be a a love-child of Elton and Springsteen (w/Dylan as his uncle). Every song he ever did was a knockoff of one or the other. This is from the Elton side of his DNA, who was a better singer and piano player than Joel.

The other thing that bugs me about this record is the title. That's for two reasons......

1. I don't think Billy Joel has ever been honest with anyone - at least not those who have ever worked with or been in a relationship with him.

2. There are those in this thread who know my last name. The title of this thing shares the same number of syllables as mine, and several letters (all but two). I had to listen to ******* LAX bros in High School sing my last name mockingly whenever it oozed like runaway sewage through some radio's speakers.

Great choice, simey! My therapist will be happy.

made me think immediately of

this.
How ya doing, Bink?

still fightin' the vertigo man.
 
Last night I saw Wilco in Charlotte. They were great, and it was a beautiful night. Today is hot and muggy.

Honesty

BJ wrote this song for his 1978 album 52nd Street. He had booked the studio for an hour, and they didn't have a song to record, but he had an idea in his head. He had thought up a melody, and he played it for the band. They all liked the melody, and BJ said he needed to write the lyrics, and he wanted a three syllable word for the title. His drummer jokingly suggested Sodomy, and they laughed about it, but it wasn't gonna work. BJ said there is a recording somewhere of him singing that. Anyway, BJ came up with the word Honesty, and wrote the lyrics on the spot. This is one of my favorite ballads by him. I like his vocals a lot on this song, and I think the subtle addition of strings is nice.

Rick Beato says "Honesty" is the perfect song. <-- It is 36 minutes long.

I can always find someone
To say they sympathize
If I wear my heart out on my sleeve
But I don't want some pretty face
To tell me pretty lies
All I want is someone to believe
Artist Who Should Have Recorded This: Elton John

Joel wanted so badly to be a a love-child of Elton and Springsteen (w/Dylan as his uncle). Every song he ever did was a knockoff of one or the other. This is from the Elton side of his DNA, who was a better singer and piano player than Joel.

The other thing that bugs me about this record is the title. That's for two reasons......

1. I don't think Billy Joel has ever been honest with anyone - at least not those who have ever worked with or been in a relationship with him.

2. There are those in this thread who know my last name. The title of this thing shares the same number of syllables as mine, and several letters (all but two). I had to listen to ******* LAX bros in High School sing my last name mockingly whenever it oozed like runaway sewage through some radio's speakers.

Great choice, simey! My therapist will be happy.

made me think immediately of

this.
How ya doing, Bink?

still fightin' the vertigo man.
Hang in there.

Cool that you found an avatar pic from that brief period in the '70s where both Johnston and McDonald were in the Doobies.
 
1. I don't think Billy Joel has ever been honest with anyone - at least not those who have ever worked with or been in a relationship with him.
There are four people who have been in his band for over 30 years, and one of those has been with him for over 40 years, and 2 of them 36 years, and the other since 1993. The others have been in the band since 2001, 2006, 2006, and 2013. They don't seem to have a problem with him. During Covid in 2020 when nobody could play live, he paid his band their full salary for the year. If you are speaking of early past members, Javors and Stegmeyer weren't supportive of BJ wanting to go in a different direction musically. Javors also wasn't giving much effort. When they isolated the track on his playing, all he was doing was plucking the guitar. Stegmeyer was in a depression, and he had withdrawn from everyone. He wouldn't come out of his hotel room on tour or speak to anyone when he came out. He didn't want to be there or anywhere. The band was on a break when they were let go, and BJ admits he should have told them in person, especially Stegmeyer. BJ was going through his own battles with depression around this time. He found out his manager/BIL had defrauded him of $30 million dollars. His lawyer stole from him too later on. Liberty, who was let go after 30 years with BJ, was fired for personal reasons. BJ has repeatedly said he won't say why he was let go, and that it would ruin Liberty if he disclosed it. He has stuck to that all these years. Anyway, Liberty sued BJ for some royalties, and said although Billy was the sole songwriter, he (Liberty) gave some creative input. They settled the lawsuit. Liberty reached out to Billy back in 2020 wanting to make amends, and BJ agreed to meet him, and they made up. Liberty asked Billy to write the foreword for his book, and BJ agreed to it. Anyway, I don't think that BJ is a saint at all, but I don't think he is bad seed either.

Regarding his relationships with his wives, according to his friends and bandmates the first wife was controlling, manipulative, and rude. They said she always tried to take advantage of BJ, and one example is he wrote a few songs about her, and at one point she wanted some publishing rights, because she said the song was about her. She convinced BJ that her brother, Frank, should be his manager. Frank ended up stealing millions from BJ. His second wife was Christie Brinkley. She wrote a book this year called Uptown Girl, and she is doing the book circuit thing. She says that some of the happiest years of her life were with Billy, and she thinks he was her soulmate, but his drinking became too big, and she couldn't live with him anymore. She said he is sober now, and they are close friends. He says he used to always use alcohol to self medicate. He has depression, and in 1970 he tried to kill himself by drinking furniture polish. His bandmate found him, and he pulled through and spent some time in a mental hospital. He said he is usually happy, but he does have bouts of depression, and he has learned through treatment and therapy how to manage it. He cited different times when it was really bad, and 9/11 being one of the worst. He wrote the song "Tomorrow is Today" after his suicide attempt. It is on his 1971 Cold Spring Harbor album. It's a sad song, and he refers to it as his suicide note. He has written some other songs about depression, and one may show up on my list later. He said the condition has actually helped him in writing songs. His third wife was young enough to be his daughter, and according to their friends the age difference and just having different interest made it not work out. His wife he has now is near the same age as the previous one. Maybe they have more in common. Who knows or cares. Anyway, Like I said earlier, I don't think he is saint, but I also don't think he is the bad guy you make him out to be.

Maybe BJ can give you the number of his therapist, cause I hope my next song pushes you over the edge. :p
 
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Just to be clear on my Billy Joel takes. Simey & I talked about this before the lists were submitted. She knows I don't care for the guy or his music, but she was gracious enough to allow me to rant on her reveals because it amuses me. I'm too old to worry about Billy Joel's awful songs anymore. Simey & I have been friends for a long time, and none of what I post about that artist is directed at her. I've lost too many battles to her over the years to want to tangle with her in a serious manner :help:

I do, however, think my alternative artists to record each of her choices are better :lol:
 
Welp, this is what I get for being anti-social. Tried and tried to find someone to do the Cruel World Festival. The only one willing had to work. I'm going alone. Stepped up for a VIP ticket. I'll get there in time for a great view of the following. Buzzcocks or Til Tuesday, OMD, Madness, Devo, Nick Cave, New Order.

Just a note before I go. Honesty is awful. Clapton choices have been really good, hate to admit it. Waterboys are gaining ground. And my boy Killvein made y'all seem soft. Buncha woosies. Yeah, looking at even you Metallica. Apologies for that hard hard song on your toilet paper soft playlist. Bye. Play nice.
 
Welp, this is what I get for being anti-social. Tried and tried to find someone to do the Cruel World Festival. The only one willing had to work. I'm going alone. Stepped up for a VIP ticket. I'll get there in time for a great view of the following. Buzzcocks or Til Tuesday, OMD, Madness, Devo, Nick Cave, New Order.

Just a note before I go. Honesty is awful. Clapton choices have been really good, hate to admit it. Waterboys are gaining ground. And my boy Killvein made y'all seem soft. Buncha woosies. Yeah, looking at even you Metallica. Apologies for that hard hard song on your toilet paper soft playlist. Bye. Play nice.
Enjoy Cruel World. I went to the festival in 2022. It was a blast.
 
Joel wanted so badly to be a a love-child of Elton and Springsteen (w/Dylan as his uncle). Every song he ever did was a knockoff of one or the other. This is from the Elton side of his DNA, who was a better singer and piano player than Joel.
Billy has said that he thinks Elton is the better piano player. Billy is a great pianist, though, and they both write great melodies. However...Billy writes his own lyrics and Elton does not. Billy is the more complete artist. I like both of their voices, and I'm a fan of both. If I could only pick one album between them, I would pick Tumbleweed Connection from Elton, because it is one of my all time favorite albums.
 
I do, however, think my alternative artists to record each of her choices are better
You arent tempted to trawl through covers of the songs on youtube and find actually better covers?
But i like the approach you are taking anyway
I'll get there in time for a great view of the following. Buzzcocks or Til Tuesday, OMD, Madness, Devo, Nick Cave, New Order.
Jealous. I may have seen OMD over a dozen times, but one more would have been nice
 
Just to be clear on my Billy Joel takes. Simey & I talked about this before the lists were submitted. She knows I don't care for the guy or his music, but she was gracious enough to allow me to rant on her reveals because it amuses me. I'm too old to worry about Billy Joel's awful songs anymore. Simey & I have been friends for a long time, and none of what I post about that artist is directed at her. I've lost too many battles to her over the years to want to tangle with her in a serious manner :help:

I do, however, think my alternative artists to record each of her choices are better :lol:
Which song should Jackson Browne do? :laugh:
 
1. I don't think Billy Joel has ever been honest with anyone - at least not those who have ever worked with or been in a relationship with him.
There are four people who have been in his band for over 30 years, and one of those has been with him for over 40 years, and 2 of them 36 years, and the other since 1993. The others have been in the band since 2001, 2006, 2006, and 2013. They don't seem to have a problem with him. During Covid in 2020 when nobody could play live, he paid his band their full salary for the year. If you are speaking of early past members, Javors and Stegmeyer weren't supportive of BJ wanting to go in a different direction musically. Javors also wasn't giving much effort. When they isolated the track on his playing, all he was doing was plucking the guitar. Stegmeyer was in a depression, and he had withdrawn from everyone. He wouldn't come out of his hotel room on tour or speak to anyone when he came out. He didn't want to be there or anywhere. The band was on a break when they were let go, and BJ admits he should have told them in person, especially Stegmeyer. BJ was going through his own battles with depression around this time. He found out his manager/BIL had defrauded him of $30 million dollars. His lawyer stole from him too later on. Liberty, who was let go after 30 years with BJ, was fired for personal reasons. BJ has repeatedly said he won't say why he was let go, and that it would ruin Liberty if he disclosed it. He has stuck to that all these years. Anyway, Liberty sued BJ for some royalties, and said although Billy was the sole songwriter, he (Liberty) gave some creative input. They settled the lawsuit. Liberty reached out to Billy back in 2020 wanting to make amends, and BJ agreed to meet him, and they made up. Liberty asked Billy to write the foreword for his book, and BJ agreed to it. Anyway, I don't think that BJ is a saint at all, but I don't think he is bad seed either.

Regarding his relationships with his wives, according to his friends and bandmates the first wife was controlling, manipulative, and rude. They said she always tried to take advantage of BJ, and one example is he wrote a few songs about her, and at one point she wanted some publishing rights, because she said the song was about her. She convinced BJ that her brother, Frank, should be his manager. Frank ended up stealing millions from BJ. His second wife was Christie Brinkley. She wrote a book this year called Uptown Girl, and she is doing the book circuit thing. She says that some of the happiest years of her life were with Billy, and she thinks he was her soulmate, but his drinking became too big, and she couldn't live with him anymore. She said he is sober now, and they are close friends. He says he used to always use alcohol to self medicate. He has depression, and in 1970 he tried to kill himself by drinking furniture polish. His bandmate found him, and he pulled through and spent some time in a mental hospital. He said he is usually happy, but he does have bouts of depression, and he has learned through treatment and therapy how to manage it. He cited different times when it was really bad, and 9/11 being one of the worst. He wrote the song "Tomorrow is Today" after his suicide attempt. It is on his 1971 Cold Spring Harbor album. It's a sad song, and he refers to it as his suicide note. He has written some other songs about depression, and one may show up on my list later. He said the condition has actually helped him in writing songs. His third wife was young enough to be his daughter, and according to their friends the age difference and just having different interest made it not work out. His wife he has now is near the same age as the previous one. Maybe they have more in common. Who knows or cares. Anyway, Like I said earlier, I don't think he is saint, but I also don't think he is the bad guy you make him out to be.

Maybe BJ can give you the number of his therapist, cause I hope my next song pushes you over the edge. :p
Billy’s four marriages, one of which is still going, is still better than Ben Folds’ five marriages, all of which have ended.

What is it with piano men?
 
Just to be clear on my Billy Joel takes. Simey & I talked about this before the lists were submitted. She knows I don't care for the guy or his music, but she was gracious enough to allow me to rant on her reveals because it amuses me. I'm too old to worry about Billy Joel's awful songs anymore. Simey & I have been friends for a long time, and none of what I post about that artist is directed at her. I've lost too many battles to her over the years to want to tangle with her in a serious manner :help:

I do, however, think my alternative artists to record each of her choices are better :lol:
Which song should Jackson Browne do? :laugh:
Spoiler alert, dude.
 
1. I don't think Billy Joel has ever been honest with anyone - at least not those who have ever worked with or been in a relationship with him.
There are four people who have been in his band for over 30 years, and one of those has been with him for over 40 years, and 2 of them 36 years, and the other since 1993. The others have been in the band since 2001, 2006, 2006, and 2013. They don't seem to have a problem with him. During Covid in 2020 when nobody could play live, he paid his band their full salary for the year. If you are speaking of early past members, Javors and Stegmeyer weren't supportive of BJ wanting to go in a different direction musically. Javors also wasn't giving much effort. When they isolated the track on his playing, all he was doing was plucking the guitar. Stegmeyer was in a depression, and he had withdrawn from everyone. He wouldn't come out of his hotel room on tour or speak to anyone when he came out. He didn't want to be there or anywhere. The band was on a break when they were let go, and BJ admits he should have told them in person, especially Stegmeyer. BJ was going through his own battles with depression around this time. He found out his manager/BIL had defrauded him of $30 million dollars. His lawyer stole from him too later on. Liberty, who was let go after 30 years with BJ, was fired for personal reasons. BJ has repeatedly said he won't say why he was let go, and that it would ruin Liberty if he disclosed it. He has stuck to that all these years. Anyway, Liberty sued BJ for some royalties, and said although Billy was the sole songwriter, he (Liberty) gave some creative input. They settled the lawsuit. Liberty reached out to Billy back in 2020 wanting to make amends, and BJ agreed to meet him, and they made up. Liberty asked Billy to write the foreword for his book, and BJ agreed to it. Anyway, I don't think that BJ is a saint at all, but I don't think he is bad seed either.

Regarding his relationships with his wives, according to his friends and bandmates the first wife was controlling, manipulative, and rude. They said she always tried to take advantage of BJ, and one example is he wrote a few songs about her, and at one point she wanted some publishing rights, because she said the song was about her. She convinced BJ that her brother, Frank, should be his manager. Frank ended up stealing millions from BJ. His second wife was Christie Brinkley. She wrote a book this year called Uptown Girl, and she is doing the book circuit thing. She says that some of the happiest years of her life were with Billy, and she thinks he was her soulmate, but his drinking became too big, and she couldn't live with him anymore. She said he is sober now, and they are close friends. He says he used to always use alcohol to self medicate. He has depression, and in 1970 he tried to kill himself by drinking furniture polish. His bandmate found him, and he pulled through and spent some time in a mental hospital. He said he is usually happy, but he does have bouts of depression, and he has learned through treatment and therapy how to manage it. He cited different times when it was really bad, and 9/11 being one of the worst. He wrote the song "Tomorrow is Today" after his suicide attempt. It is on his 1971 Cold Spring Harbor album. It's a sad song, and he refers to it as his suicide note. He has written some other songs about depression, and one may show up on my list later. He said the condition has actually helped him in writing songs. His third wife was young enough to be his daughter, and according to their friends the age difference and just having different interest made it not work out. His wife he has now is near the same age as the previous one. Maybe they have more in common. Who knows or cares. Anyway, Like I said earlier, I don't think he is saint, but I also don't think he is the bad guy you make him out to be.

Maybe BJ can give you the number of his therapist, cause I hope my next song pushes you over the edge. :p
Billy’s four marriages, one of which is still going, is still better than Ben Folds’ five marriages, all of which have ended.

What is it with piano men?

Elton and David Furnish are still together
 
Just to be clear on my Billy Joel takes. Simey & I talked about this before the lists were submitted. She knows I don't care for the guy or his music, but she was gracious enough to allow me to rant on her reveals because it amuses me. I'm too old to worry about Billy Joel's awful songs anymore. Simey & I have been friends for a long time, and none of what I post about that artist is directed at her. I've lost too many battles to her over the years to want to tangle with her in a serious manner :help:

I do, however, think my alternative artists to record each of her choices are better :lol:

The alternative artists is an interesting take, so keep those going.

But I have to say, I cannot recall anyone posting so negatively so often about an artist who to my knowledge never did anything publicly offensive (e.g., like Clapton's racism statements). It's as if you are his first wife or one of his former band members he fired or some other person who has a reason to hold a personal grudge against him.

Obviously, you should keep doing you, though. You are a great poster, GB.
 
Joel wanted so badly to be a a love-child of Elton and Springsteen (w/Dylan as his uncle). Every song he ever did was a knockoff of one or the other. This is from the Elton side of his DNA, who was a better singer and piano player than Joel.
Billy has said that he thinks Elton is the better piano player. Billy is a great pianist, though, and they both write great melodies. However...Billy writes his own lyrics and Elton does not. Billy is the more complete artist. I like both of their voices, and I'm a fan of both. If I could only pick one album between them, I would pick Tumbleweed Connection from Elton, because it is one of my all time favorite albums.

Personally, I like some of Elton's songs, but I like Billy's music better overall, though neither would be high in my all time artist rankings. My wife and I saw Billy in concert in 1990, and he was excellent.
 
28 - After coming off a great set in 29, I felt this wasn’t quite at the same level. Good, just not as good as 29. Plenty of songs I liked, just not quite the same high.

New to me, added to likes
Give me your love, babys
It’s weird, general public
The 🚤 that I row, Lulu
Ahead of the curve, monsters of folk
Black postcards, Luna
Tiny Teddy 🪦
Church not made with hands, waterboys

Favorite from the 28s - I’ve got a rock and roll ❤️, Eric Clapton

Note - that meatloaf one was… interesting
 
MA-D Round 5: Metallica
#28: The Day That Never Comes
Album: Death Magnetic (2008)


(Official music video) Metallica: The Day That Never Comes (Official Music Video)
(S&M2 version) Metallica - The Day That Never Comes (S&M2)

Push you cross that line
Just stay down this time
Hide in yourself
Crawl in yourself
You'll have your time



“The Day That Never Comes” is somewhat of a slow burn. The beginning is slow with fairly clean guitar work, leading into the first appearance of the chorus. There’s a buildup throughout the song. As alluded to by Yambag, the second half (roughly) of the song is a different entity, faster and more “raw”. The last few minutes being purely instrumental, in a fashion that Metallica’s used for other songs in this style. I’d name a few, but the most obvious examples are higher on this playlist.

From an interview, the song’s themes involve forgiveness and resentment. Lars Ulrich’s stated that the lyrics were inspired by a father-son relationship. Though the video takes another direction while hitting on the overarching themes.

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Next on the countdown, a song that might be a sneaky good name for an insurance company.
 
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Just to be clear on my Billy Joel takes. Simey & I talked about this before the lists were submitted. She knows I don't care for the guy or his music, but she was gracious enough to allow me to rant on her reveals because it amuses me. I'm too old to worry about Billy Joel's awful songs anymore. Simey & I have been friends for a long time, and none of what I post about that artist is directed at her. I've lost too many battles to her over the years to want to tangle with her in a serious manner :help:

I do, however, think my alternative artists to record each of her choices are better :lol:
My Billy Joel take is that he missed his true calling- writing songs for Broadway musicals. There is a quality to his music that to me is best fit for stage storytelling.
 
Just to be clear on my Billy Joel takes. Simey & I talked about this before the lists were submitted. She knows I don't care for the guy or his music, but she was gracious enough to allow me to rant on her reveals because it amuses me. I'm too old to worry about Billy Joel's awful songs anymore. Simey & I have been friends for a long time, and none of what I post about that artist is directed at her. I've lost too many battles to her over the years to want to tangle with her in a serious manner :help:

I do, however, think my alternative artists to record each of her choices are better :lol:
My Billy Joel take is that he missed his true calling- writing songs for Broadway musicals. There is a quality to his music that to me is best fit for stage storytelling.

ditkaburgers still knows all of the words Joel sang in the Disney animated movie Oliver & Company. Maybe Billy's true calling was playing a cartoon dog.
 
Just to be clear on my Billy Joel takes. Simey & I talked about this before the lists were submitted. She knows I don't care for the guy or his music, but she was gracious enough to allow me to rant on her reveals because it amuses me. I'm too old to worry about Billy Joel's awful songs anymore. Simey & I have been friends for a long time, and none of what I post about that artist is directed at her. I've lost too many battles to her over the years to want to tangle with her in a serious manner :help:

I do, however, think my alternative artists to record each of her choices are better :lol:
My Billy Joel take is that he missed his true calling- writing songs for Broadway musicals. There is a quality to his music that to me is best fit for stage storytelling.

ditkaburgers still knows all of the words Joel sang in the Disney animated movie Oliver & Company. Maybe Billy's true calling was playing a cartoon dog.
There’s just something so theatrical about his music.
 

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