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[Mister CIA]

29. Your Mind and We Belong Together
Album: Non-album A-side (1968)

This is another Arthur Lee and Love two-titles-for-one-song special. Only the two thoughts are separated by "and" instead of "or," which, coupled with how different the two halves of the song sound from each other, makes me think that it is actually two short songs that Lee fused into one.

If Lee had been a prog rocker, he might have titled the song this way:

I've Seen All Minds Together
a. Your Mind
b. We Belong Together

The "Your Mind" part begins with a flurry of overlapping guitar lines, punchy bass notes and an insistent vocal from Lee. Then it slows down and Lee sings "so many people, they just seem to clutter up my mind," which pretty well describes his attitude toward his bandmates and label execs, whom he distrusted for different reasons. This is borne out by the next verse: "so many voices, don't let them stop between my ears, but it appears that there they are, though they are wrong, ten thousand strong". Then a staccato riff begins and the song changes completely, which is why I think it had to have initially been a separate song called "We Belong Together." The vocal melody, the harmonies and the bass parts suggest a Beatles influence, but this is more overtly paranoid and misanthropic than anything the Fab Four was committing to wax:

I'm lockin' my heart in the closet
I don't need anyone, oh no no no
You find me behind the door
And all of the far out faces
From long ago, I can't erase this

The last minute and a half of the song is dominated by a guitar solo from John Echols, the last hurrah for the original incarnation of Love's style of psychedelic jamming.

"Your Mind and We Belong Together" was one of the last two songs issued by the Forever Changes lineup of Love, appearing as the A-side of a non-album single released in September 1968, just before Bryan MacLean left and Lee fired the rest of the band, putting together a new lineup that could perform the Jimi Hendrix-style heavy rock that Lee wanted to play. These days, the song can be found on the "alternate mix and outtakes" edition of Forever Changes along with its B-side, "Laughing Stock." Despite its "orphan" status, "Your Mind and We Belong Together" has been performed consistently since 1992, including at both shows I saw (the 1994 show was the first time I'd heard it).

Interestingly, this lineup did attempt to come together again not long after it broke up. During the recording of the 1968-69 warehouse sessions, Bob Krasnow, head of Blue Thumb Records, which would release 2/3 of that material as Out Here, told Lee that the new lineup lacked the "magic" of the old one and talked him in to trying to get them back together. MacLean declined but Echols, bassist Ken Forssi and drummer Michael Stuart-Ware signed on. This lineup even played a few gigs, but Echols and Forssi had not kicked their heroin habits and sold some of the band's equipment for drug money. Furious, Lee disbanded the lineup again and started working with the warehouse sessions lineup once more. MacLean and Forssi died during Lee's prison term in the late '90s, but Echols and Stuart-Ware reconciled with Lee after his release. Stuart-Ware in 2002 published a memoir of his time in the band and played a few gigs with Lee and Love in 2003, as well as appearing at some of the benefits for Lee in 2006 just before his death. Echols joined the post-prison lineup of Love in late 2003 and remains with them to this day. They have been performing as The Love Band since Lee's death and have been playing sets this month that include "Your Mind and We Belong Together."

Promo film from 1968: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vncktK4MIhI

Live version from the Roskilde festival in 2002 (appears on Coming Through to You: The Live Recordings 1970-2004): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhvyeZqruGU

Live version from the Glastonbury festival in 2003: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nF7HB0ZUFo

Live version from London in 2003, appears on The Forever Changes Concert: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZp5QBga-ew

The Love Band live in 2022, with 75-year-old John Echols reprising his guitar solo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjxSvvug5z4

At #28, by far the newest song on my list -- and it came out when I was in college.

I hadn't heard this one before - that solo is awesome.

I was waiting to see where this one slotted. I love the solo in the live recording I am familiar with (the redux Forever Change recorded live with bonus material), but man, I love the solo on this cover even more. Grittier than what I knew. Great stuff.

 

[Eephus]

I like the Babys song that I'm not supposed to be listening to yet

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I like the Babys song that I'm not supposed to be listening to yet

I knew John Waite from early MTV and one or two Babys songs from the radio and have been surprised by how heavy their sound has been. If I went in blind and you said the Babys' songs were from the Humble Pie list, I'd believe you.

 

[Eephus]

I like the Babys song that I'm not supposed to be listening to yet

I knew John Waite from early MTV and one or two Babys songs from the radio and have been surprised by how heavy their sound has been. If I went in blind and you said the Babys' songs were from the Humble Pie list, I'd believe you.

Teenage Mrs. Eephus was a fan of the Babys so we always had a couple of their albums in our joint crates.

 

[Mister CIA]

I like the Babys song that I'm not supposed to be listening to yet

I knew John Waite from early MTV and one or two Babys songs from the radio and have been surprised by how heavy their sound has been. If I went in blind and you said the Babys' songs were from the Humble Pie list, I'd believe you.

Teenage Mrs. Eephus was a fan of the Babys so we always had a couple of their albums in our joint crates.

I could use a crate of joints.

 

[The Dreaded Marco]

Another one of my late night, too psyched after a show to sleep posts. Tonight it was Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds which came as a complete surprise because I had no plans to see him when I woke up this morning. Mrs. Eephus had a single GA floor ticket which she was dreading a little because her knee was bothering her from the show we saw the other night. But one of her concert friend group contacted her and said she had gotten three balcony seats from somebody else. So I sold the GA ticket and we sat up top with the boring folks. I'm glad we did because he played for almost three hours and the main floor experience of an 8000 capacity venue can sometimes suck no matter how great the performance is.

Cave is an incredible performer. I saw him three years ago when he did the duo tour with Warren Ellis but his full band show was on another level. He's an intense guy whose music can get serious but he has a lot of fun on stage and the band was loose on the last night of the tour. Eleven stars (one for each member of the band), great show, wonderful night.

That sounds like an awesome show.

Nick is also a friend of the thread---my BIL did him for MAD 2 (or 3?). He was Salteriffic, but apparently he deleted his account.

Speaking of my BIL, he and I are seeing one of my all time favorite bands tonight. First time I am seeing New Order live. Sadly, no Peter Hook...apparently he and Bernard Sumner cannot bury the hatchet.

Also seeing Yo La Tengo (very possible artist for MAD6), Future Islands and Devo tonight.

 

[Charlie Steiner]

I like the Babys song that I'm not supposed to be listening to yet

I hadn't listened to it in probably at least 35 years, so it was almost like hearing it for the first time when I listened to it for this list. The fact that they didn't hit as big as their songs seemed to merit always made me wonder if everyone else was hearing something different.

 

[Eephus]

I like the Babys song that I'm not supposed to be listening to yet

I hadn't listened to it in probably at least 35 years, so it was almost like hearing it for the first time when I listened to it for this list. The fact that they didn't hit as big as their songs seemed to merit always made me wonder if everyone else was hearing something different.

I'm a sucker for the clavinet

 

[Eephus]

Speaking of my BIL, he and I are seeing one of my all time favorite bands tonight. First time I am seeing New Order live. Sadly, no Peter Hook...apparently he and Bernard Sumner cannot bury the hatchet.

A lot of bands are in the Western states this week and next booking shows around their appearances at the Cruel World festival in Pasadena this weekend. New Order and Nick Cave are the headliners but there are a lot of acts down the bill who have passed through the Bay Area this week. Our friend who got us the Cave tickets last night is going to six shows in six nights. Mrs. Eephus is scheduled for four in seven and I'm bringing up the rear with three in seven.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Speaking of my BIL, he and I are seeing one of my all time favorite bands tonight. First time I am seeing New Order live. Sadly, no Peter Hook...apparently he and Bernard Sumner cannot bury the hatchet.

A lot of bands are in the Western states this week and next booking shows around their appearances at the Cruel World festival in Pasadena this weekend. New Order and Nick Cave are the headliners but there are a lot of acts down the bill who have passed through the Bay Area this week. Our friend who got us the Cave tickets last night is going to six shows in six nights. Mrs. Eephus is scheduled for four in seven and I'm bringing up the rear with three in seven.

Dang. My “record” is 8 shows in 10 days, accomplished when I was much younger.

Day 10 was a secret Ween set that I found out about on Day 9.

 

[Yo Mama]

Going to see Secret Ween with special guest Joint Crates at the Paladium tonight.

 

[Charlie Steiner]

I like the Babys song that I'm not supposed to be listening to yet

I hadn't listened to it in probably at least 35 years, so it was almost like hearing it for the first time when I listened to it for this list. The fact that they didn't hit as big as their songs seemed to merit always made me wonder if everyone else was hearing something different.

I'm a sucker for the clavinet

You're a sucker if you're not.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I like the Babys song that I'm not supposed to be listening to yet

Lol. Me too. I accidently hit on that playlist this morning at work. I had to the 29s again to keep them straight for comments.

 

[KarmaPolice]

29s random thoughts:

The Whole World Lost Its Head is a fantastic playlist opener and an anthem for 2025.
Loved the groove on Signed Sealed. I listened to that a few times.
There is beef online about Bury Me? It's one of my favorite songs on my favorite Pumpkins album. I've always loved Jimmy's drumming on this, but the guitar work in this song is outstanding.
I haven't given Otis a shout out, but I have been loving the tunes so far. His voice sounds great on For Your Precious Love
I am a little miffed I have to give back to back nods to Lars. I was listening to the black album a little tonight and realized how much I like the drumming on that album. The album is more heavy than metal and he lays off the damn snare, plays some grooves, and plays to his strengths a bit. Me air drumming while listening with the wife and tonight listening to The Unforgiven got me thinking about that more.

 

[Eephus]

I like the Babys song that I'm not supposed to be listening to yet

I hadn't listened to it in probably at least 35 years, so it was almost like hearing it for the first time when I listened to it for this list. The fact that they didn't hit as big as their songs seemed to merit always made me wonder if everyone else was hearing something different.

I'm a sucker for the clavinet

You're a sucker if you're not.

I said clavinet, not clavier

 

[Mt. Man]

For the #29s I’ll go back to shuffling. And hey, somehow I’m not a playlist behind!

Selected Favorites:
Hundreds of Ways - Conor Oberst
The Way - The Gap Band
Red Army Blues - The Waterboys
Devil’s Haircut - Beck
The Whole World Lost Its Head - The Gogos (/Belinda Carlisle)
Days Like These - PUTS
Bell Bottom Blues - Derek & The Dominoes (/Eric Clapton)
Bury Me - The Smashing Pumpkins

Shuffle Adventures:
Let me praise the combo of “Long Time Ago” from Golden Smog and Shack (featuring Michael Head) with “Soldier Man”. I should cover these two artists separately, but this time I thought they went well together.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

I write this from a hotel room in Orlando on a business trip. Which is also why I'm behind on the playlists already.

Three known-to-me favorites from #30:

Let It Rain -- A top 10 Clapton for me. The Cream guitar heroics crossed with some of the things he learned from Delaney and Bonnie. The song structure sounds a bit Harrisonesque to me as well.
Cherry, Cherry -- As I said, a highlight of the Neil Diamond show I saw in 1985 -- it was my first concert; my father and stepmother took us to MSG.
Hero of the Day -- One of my favorite latter-day Metallica. The melody and changes are strong.

Three new-to-me favorites from #30:

Napalm -- Yep, Oberst sounds like Dylan here. Not just in the vocal, in the entire structure and arrangement. But not in an obvious ripoff kind of way.
Disposable Sunshine -- This is all-around excellent '90s-ness, down to the band name, Loser.
As Much as I Ever Could -- What a vocal. Haunting.

 

[Chaos34]

Napalm -- Yep, Oberst sounds like Dylan here. Not just in the vocal, in the entire structure and arrangement. But not in an obvious ripoff kind of way.
Disposable Sunshine -- This is all-around excellent '90s-ness, down to the band name, Loser.

Yeah, I guess I find something new to me like Oberst and get a little carried away, but he's still making a nice impression on me. So much so, I'm sharing his stuff with others irl.

On Loser, maybe 06 was too late to go so 90s for my guy John. It was literally a plan to be more radio friendly (than Manson) designed by producer Bob Marlotte, a guiding force behind John from the earliest days. I struggle with how heavy much of John's music is, but Loser struck a nice balance. That front man, Joe Grah, was a good rabbit hole, tons of 80s and 90s alt rock. No idea what the future would have been if John said no to Zombie, but I think we'd have a fun old schoolish rock band.

Eeph got me off the Oberst dive today. I had strong praise for Nick Cave's Wild God when it came out. Had it on loop today. I think it's his masterpiece. Strongly considering ponying up for the Cruel World festival, but I'd rather sit in the balcony with a diet coke. Was it a Wild God show, Eeph? Guess I can pull the set list.

3 shows in 3 days is my record. It was Rod Stewart, Alice in Chains, Santana.

 

[Eephus]

Eeph got me off the Oberst dive today. I had strong praise for Nick Cave's Wild God when it came out. Had it on loop today. I think it's his masterpiece. Strongly considering ponying up for the Cruel World festival, but I'd rather sit in the balcony with a diet coke. Was it a Wild God show, Eeph? Guess I can pull the set list.

Cave did 7 of the 10 songs off Wild God among his 24 song set.

 

[Eephus]

MADs adjacent new album Friday has a distinct 90s flavor

A Bangle and her husband

Long After The Fire

Vicki Peterson · Album · 2025 · 12 songs

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Pearl Jam w/ Last of Us EP

The Last of Us

Pearl Jam · EP · 2025 · 4 songs

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new Counting Crows

Butter Miracle, The Complete Sweets!

Counting Crows · Album · 2025 · 9 songs

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Chuck D solo

Chuck D Presents Enemy Radio: Radio Armageddon

Chuck D · Album · 2025 · 14 songs

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Sublime tribute album

Look At All The Love We Found: A Tribute To Sublime (Reworked and Remastered)

Sublime · Album · 2025 · 36 songs

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Barenaked Ladies

In Flight - Carry On

Barenaked Ladies · Album · 2025 · 7 songs

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Dandy Warhols

ROCK REMAKER

The Dandy Warhols · EP · 2025 · 5 songs

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Also Peter Doherty from the Libertines, Tune-Yards, Avicii

 

[Chaos34]

Rihanna Smurfs song finally released.

 

[Zegras11]

28's PLAYLIST

[td]Belinda Carlise[/td][td]Zegras11[/td][td]Beatnik Beach

Beatnik Beach

The Go-Go's · Vacation · Song · 1982

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[/td] [td]Michael Head[/td][td]Eephus[/td][td]The Pale Fountains -- Just a Girl

Just a Girl

The Pale Fountains · Something on My Mind · Song · 2013

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[/td] [td]People Under the Stairs[/td][td]KarmaPolice[/td][td]July 3rd

July 3rd

People Under The Stairs · Question in the Form of an Answer · Song · 2000

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[/td] [td]John Waite[/td][td]Charlie Steiner[/td][td]Give Me Your Love

Give Me Your Love

The Babys · Broken Heart · Song · 1977

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[/td] [td]Golden Smog[/td][td]Dr. Octopus[/td][td]He’s a ****

He's a Dick

Golden Smog · Down By The Old Mainstream · Song · 1995

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[/td] [td]The GAP Band/Charlie Wilson[/td][td]Don Quixote[/td][td]The Boys Are Back in Town - The Gap Band

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The Boys Are Back In Town

The Gap Band · The Gap Band II · Song · 1979

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[/td] [td]The English Beat Family Tree[/td][td]Yo Mama[/td][td]It’s Weird

It's Weird

General Public · Rub It Better · Song · 1995

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[/td] [td]Caroline Esmeralda van der Leeuw[/td][td]-OZ_[/td][td]Paris

Paris

Caro Emerald · The Shocking Miss Emerald · Song · 2013

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[/td] [td]Neil Diamond[/td][td]Mrs. Rannous[/td][td]The Boat That I Row

The Boat That I Row

Lulu · To Sir With Love · Song · 1967

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[Zegras11]

28's

[td]Steve Marriott[/td][td]zamboni[/td][td]"Road Runners G Jam" – Humble Pie

Road Runners G Jam

Humble Pie · Smokin' · Song · 1972

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[/td] [td]Conor Oberst[/td][td]Tuffnutt[/td][td]Ahead of the Curve

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[/td] [td]Smashing Pumpkins[/td][td]Yambag[/td][td]Song For A Son

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[/td] [td]Otis Redding[/td][td]John Maddens Lunchbox[/td][td]Shout Bamalama/Gamma Lama

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Shout Bamalama

Otis Reddings · R&B Hipshakers Volume 2 - ScratchThat Itch · Song · 2019

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[/td] [td]Meat Loaf[/td][td]snellman[/td][td]Wasted Youth

Wasted Youth

Meat Loaf · Bat Out Of Hell II: Back Into Hell · Song · 1993

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[/td] [td]Hugh Dillon[/td][td]Mister CIA[/td][td]Tiny Teddy

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[/td] [td]Luna[/td][td]landrys hat[/td][td]Black Postcards

Black Postcards

Luna · Romantica · Song · 2002

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[/td] [td]Metallica[/td][td]Mt. Man[/td][td]The Day That Never Comes

Damage, Inc. (Remastered)

Metallica · Master of Puppets (Remastered Deluxe Box Set) · Song · 1986

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[/td] [td]The Doobie Brothers[/td][td]New Binky The Doormat[/td][td]Don't Start Me To Talkin'

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[Zegras11]

28's

[td]Billy Joel[/td][td]simey[/td][td]Honesty

Honesty

Billy Joel · The Essential Billy Joel · Song · 2001

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[/td] [td]Arthur Lee and Love[/td][td]Pip's Invitation[/td][td]Five String Serenade

Five string serenade

Arthur Lee · New rose story vol.4 · Song · 2000

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[/td] [td]Beck[/td][td]KarmaPolice[/td][td]Milk & Honey

Milk & Honey

Beck · Midnite Vultures · Song · 1999

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[/td] [td]John 5[/td][td]Chaos34[/td][td]Knock Me Down - Tommy Lee (Ft. Killvein)

Knock Me Down

Tommy Lee, Killvein · Andro · Song · 2020

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[/td] [td]City and Colour[/td][td]MrsKarmaPolice[/td][td]In the Water I Am Beautiful

In The Water I Am Beautiful

City and Colour · Sometimes · Song · 2005

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[/td] [td]The Waterboys[/td][td]Ilov80s[/td][td]Church Not Made with Hands

Church Not Made with Hands - 2002 Remaster

The Waterboys · A Pagan Place · Song · 1984

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[/td] [td]Eric Clapton[/td][td]Tau837[/td][td]I've Got a Rock 'n' Roll Heart

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[/td] [td]Ferry Corsten[/td][td]titusbramble[/td][td]Moonman - Don't Be Afraid

Don't Be Afraid

Moonman · Gary D. Pres. D.Trance, Vol. 4-6 (Platinuum Remastered) · Song · 2015

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[/td] [td]Cornershop[/td][td]The Dreaded Marco[/td][td]You Always Said My Language Would Get Me Into Trouble

You Always Said My Language Would Get Me into Trouble

Cornershop · Hold On It Hurts · Song · 1994

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[Mrs. Rannous]

Rihanna Smurfs song finally released.

I do not understand those weird pant things. Or what she's saying, for that matter.

Bet it's great on acid, though.

 

[Zegras11]

Belinda with a cover next song....

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

Round 28 - The Boat That I Row - Neil Diamond

Our guest performer is here on a limited engagement from the Single Named Ladies Theme. It's -

Lulu!

This song was a top ten hit in the UK for her. May I suggest this recording from her BBC special in 1968. She was so fine.

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

#28 - Otis Redding and the Pinetoppers - Gamma Lama/Shout Bamalama​

Gamma Lama -
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P4rUA_uDj2U&pp=ygUXT3RpcyByZWRkaW5nIGdhbW1hIGxhbWE=
Shout Bamalama -
https://open.spotify.com/track/4gE5iHVX9K31To3NGx00Ou?si=t8jmfWH0QWmNZdnc24Uzcg

Comments sometimes from Wikipedia

JML Rank - #29 (Gamma Lama)
Krista4 Rank - #22 to 27 (Shout Bamalama)
Uruk-Hai Rank - Not Ranked
Album - Compilation - Otis Redding, Little Joe Curtis – Here Comes More Soul
Recorded - 1960/1961
Is this a Cover? - No
Songwriter - Otis Redding
Notable Covers -

Sampled by The Pennsylvania Players

The Fantastic Johnny C

King Biscuit Boy with Crowbar

Wet Willie

Hullujussi

Eddie Hinton

Mud Boy and The Neutrons

The Detroit Cobras

Comments - While still a teenager, Otis Redding did some recordings. The first was She’s Alright with Otis Redding and the Shooters. The follow up was Otis Redding and the Pinetoppers with Gettin Hip and a B Side called Gamma Lama. Both didnt really see the light of day until after his premature death. For some reason they redid Gamma Lama as Shout Bamalama as their next single.
I much prefer the Gamma Lama version, included on the youtube link. It’s reminiscent of Otis’s Idol Little Richard and what it lacks in sound quality it makes up for in energy. Krista preferred the rerecorded version which is on the spotify link.

Next Up - A track released as a B Side only. It does appear on live releases though

 

[Ilov80s]

Rihanna Smurfs song finally released.

I do not understand those weird pant things. Or what she's saying, for that matter.

Bet it's great on acid, though.

I’m just glad something artistically important stirred her enough to finally release a new song.

 

[KarmaPolice]

My old eyes appreciated JML's formatting this morning.

 

[KarmaPolice]

#28: PEOPLE UNDER THE STAIRS - JULY 3RD

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This was another spot on the playlist where I struggled deciding what song to put in. What I landed on was July 3rd. In general I like the autobiographical/"a day in the life" type of songs in their catalog, but this one stands out mostly because of Thes' section at the end of the song describing his real life weird incident of almost being kidnapped one day after getting hit by a van. This is what he was referring to in Days Like These:

July 3rd, I live to pay another month of rent

This is a song off their second album Question in the Form of an Answer. Already you can tell they were honing their craft between the debut and this one even though they were still recording from their house with basically the same equipment. Pair that with an influx of new samples they got from their European tour for the debut. They would spend much of their extra money hitting record stores and spending $1000s. The morphing of their sound will stand out more as we hit the top 20 and start going through songs in timeline order more.

NEXT: we get another day in the life tunes that is a little more fun than July 3rd, and we are already back to the Carried Away album.

 

[KarmaPolice]

#28: BECK - MILK & HONEY

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Midnight Vultures was one of those odd albums I remember having on CD and was always in my car and floating around. I probably listened to it as much as Odelay. It had a silly party vibe that I always found funny. I wouldn't be surprised if this album is a lower ranked album for most. It is quite the change from this album to Sea Change.

Bangkok athletes in the biosphere
Arkansas wet dreams
We all disappear
Kremlin mistress
Ring the buddah chimes
She slipped me roofies
Receding hairlines

NEXT: the only non-album track on the playlist, we have a random movie soundtrack song I hadn't heard before.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I just noticed a mistake on the playlist in the Metallica section, that has been corrected today. All you cheating early listeners might notice...

 

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He was alive, he was electric
Became a legend as the years went by
He was a liar but I accept it I mean he was a legend in my own mind
We were reckless, lived on impulse
Every second was something to behold
I couldn't think straight and he said shut up
Grabbed the wheel as we lost control
He knew where to run
He'd sell out everyone
And I couldn't believe
That he was waiting for me
Tiny Teddy couldn't make into Mexico
Doubled down gambled all the money up his nose
Had to drive all the way back to 'Frisco
Top Down always blastin' on the stereo
I was elated it was over
The room was spinnin' I was out of breath
A cold fever, I couldn't shake it
I woke up with a gun to my head
He had explosives, tied me to them
The clock would tick each time I blinked
He drove me up to the mansion
Set the fuse and locked the gate
He knew where to run
He'd sell out everyone
And I couldn't believe
That he was waiting for me
Tiny Teddy couldn't make into Mexico
Doubled down gambled all the money up his nose
Had to drive all the way back to 'Frisco
Top Down always blastin' on the stereo
Hey!
Tiny Teddy couldn't make into Mexico
Doubled down gambled all the money up his nose
Had to drive all the way back to 'Frisco
Top Down always blastin' on the stereo
Tiny Teddy couldn't make it so the story goes
Some say they've seen him runnin' smokes on Lake Ontario I can't see him anywhere outside the west coast
Top Down always blastin' on the stereo
Tiny Teddy couldn't make into Mexico
Doubled down gambled all the money up his nose
Had to drive all the way back to 'Frisco
Top Down always blastin' on the stereo
Tiny Teddy couldn't make it
Tiny Teddy couldn't make it
Tiny Teddy couldn't make it so the story goes
So the story goes
So the story goes
Top Down always blastin' on the stereo

 

[Charlie Steiner]

A Bangle and her husband

Long After The Fire

Vicki Peterson · Album · 2025 · 12 songs

open.spotify.com

He's currently touring with The Smithereens, I've see FB posts from their shows that have her on stage as well. They're coming to the DMV next month (Ram's Head Live in Annapolis and The Birchmere in NoVa).

Anyway, here's #28:


28. Give Me Your Love (Broken Heart, 1977)

Written by all four band members, Give Me Your Love stands as one of the band's more memorable numbers and just feels like it should have been a hit. I mentioned in a post earlier that it felt like The Babys were about 5 years too late, but this tune slides nicely into that late 70's rock vibe.


Nothing to add to the narrative at this time; I'm still basking in the afterglow of Star Wars.

 

[Mt. Man]

I just noticed a mistake on the playlist in the Metallica section, that has been corrected today. All you cheating early listeners might notice...

Yeah, I had messaged Zegras about it. I should have included you also. Either way, definitely my error. The Day That Never Comes is the song I meant to have at #28. #27 will be easy to figure out for some people. but that's a minor thing.

 

[Ilov80s]

Today’s Waterboys selection may sound familiar, it was a song from our last MAD playlist as I chose it to represent their 1984 album A Pagan Place. It marks the end of that album on this list and next we will head forward chronologically with their other big album with their big music sound.

 

[Don Quixote]

#28 The Boys Are Back in Town (Spotify) - The GAP Band

Despite the song title, this has nothing to do with the Thin Lizzy song. This one was a new-to-me as I was in the process of pulling together my list. When I decided on The GAP Band/Charlie Wilson this round, I had a playlist of around 40 songs that I was working with and this was not on there. When I was giving a further listen to the albums, this one stuck out to me and worked its way on the list. It is the closer on The GAP Band II album. It is different from their other stuff: more soft rock than expect out of The GAP Band, but it still has that GAP Band feel to it anyway. Maybe after listening to all of the funk, it stuck out for that reason.

The list will get back to the funkier grooves soon though.

 

[Chaos34]

Tommy Lee wasn’t very busy in 98. He was in the Los Angeles County Jail. Incarcerated for felony spousal battery and child abuse against Pamela and their son, he had time to consider his life choices. He chose to be a better husband and father. Something he felt necessitated leaving Motley Crue. Glam/hair metal felt played anyway. The associated sex, drugs and rock and roll wasn’t doing him any favors. He had modern music, heavier and darker in mind. Pam divorced him anyway.

John was very busy in 98. He began the year finishing a tour with kd lang, who said she chose him over 2000 guitarists - must be an exaggeration. He then joined the DLR Band, co-wrote most of the songs and did between 7 to 10 live shows; one of which I was fortunate to catch. It may sound blasphemous but he was indiscernible from EVH. He then went to Trent Reznor’s studio to complete the 2wo LP and promoted it with a European tour. Before 98 was over he would be touring with Marilyn Manson.

Before saying yes to Manson, he’d already said yes to Leah Andreone. While rehearsing with Manson he found time to be in the studio for Leah. He played all the guitars including bass for her Alchemy LP. There’s a cryptic “5” on the album cover in acknowledgement. It’s a good listen, but no track made my list. This made the 31 unique artist list if you’re interested in Leah/John . According to his bio, he can be found on several more 1998 recordings for 4 other artists/bands/projects including contributing tracks for the Speed 2 soundtrack.

Still in jail, Tommy requested a visit from John. John said yes. Ford, lang, and Manson all signed John as a touring musician. Royalties somn somn. Roth and Halford made him a full member. Tommy explained he was leaving Motley when he got out of jail, and that he was forming a new band, Masters of Mayhem. It was modern rap metal. John’s guitar work with Halford and Manson was just what Tommy wanted. He offered John full membership. John said yes.

Masters of Mayhem was John’s first dalliance in the Motley universe, 1999. 23 years later he’d say yes to being Motley’s touring guitar player. 2 years prior to that he did studio work for Tommy again on another rap metal project. It’s way out of my wheelhouse, but enjoyable nonetheless, and I thought better than anything from Masters of Mayhem.

28. Knock Me Down - Tommy Lee (Ft. Killvein)
Tommy Lee - Knock Me Down feat. Killvein (Official Music Video)
https://open.spotify.com/track/4JKQ4VGsKEwmEn2aWAzeho?si=ef732b1390c94d3b

The video adds to the experience, but the Spotify playlist is fine if you’re not that interested.

This however is… um, in the words of John, “a real glimpse into the studio life when you record with Tommy!”

Of course John left Masters of Mayhem after Manson came to his senses and made him a full member.

Of course Tommy came to his senses and re-joined Motley.

Of course Pam remarried Tommy a decade later believing he’d changed his ways. Of course he didn’t and they divorced again.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

He's currently touring with The Smithereens

When I saw the Smithereens in Asbury two years ago (they're coming back in June and I have a ticket), Marshall Crenshaw handled the lead vocals, but Peterson and Cowsill sang backup,

 

[Yo Mama]

The English Beat Family Tree #28

It’s Weird

Artist - General Public
Album - Rub it Better (1995)

Our first song from General Public (Wakeling and Roger’s post-Beat band). I found this album really interesting and had never listened to it before. It came out a decade after their first two albums made in the early/mid 80s, and it had a very different sound.

This has no basis in reality, and I am choosing not to research the background to this album because I like my theory best. My theory: Dave and Roger were sitting in their homes luxuriating in their piles of 80s residuals and saw how popular 311 got with the pseudo reggae/rock style and they said, “We can do that. We have Top Ranking Roger, after all.” So after almost a 10 year break, they made a 311 album.

This song was my favorite of their 311-style offerings, but I actually have one more from this album later in my countdown with a song more reminiscent of their 80s Dave-fronted songs.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

29.

Song: He’s a ****
Album: Down By The Old Mainstream
Songwriter: Kraig Johnson

Smog Lineup:

Jeff Tweedy – bass
Kraig Johnson – lead vocals, slide guitar, harmonica
Dan Murphy – lead guitar
Marc Perlman - guitar
Gary Lo – guitar
Noah Levy – drums


We all have a friend like this.

Down by the Old Mainstream is the band’s debut album (not counting the EP), released in 1995. Its title is from a line in both the Wilco song "Someday Soon" from the album, Being There, and from "Radio King", the last track on this album.

 

[Charlie Steiner]

He's currently touring with The Smithereens

When I saw the Smithereens in Asbury two years ago (they're coming back in June and I have a ticket), Marshall Crenshaw handled the lead vocals, but Peterson and Cowsill sang backup,

When the band regrouped after Pat's death, Crenshaw made the bulk of their appearances, with The Gin Blossoms' Robin Wilson alternating with him. I know Cowsill has been a longtime friend of the band, but was unaware of him touring with them until recently.

 

[Mister CIA]

He's currently touring with The Smithereens

When I saw the Smithereens in Asbury two years ago (they're coming back in June and I have a ticket), Marshall Crenshaw handled the lead vocals, but Peterson and Cowsill sang backup,

When the band regrouped after Pat's death, Crenshaw made the bulk of their appearances, with The Gin Blossoms' Robin Wilson alternating with him. I know Cowsill has been a longtime friend of the band, but was unaware of him touring with them until recently.

I know the Gin Blossoms were a big part of the pop alternative rock of the 90s, but if you're into alt-country where the twang exceeds 11, check out the The Revenants Artist's & Whores, which features former Gin Blossoms guitarist, Richard Taylor. ... or maybe he is current guitarist; I'm not meticulous.

Link to full album:

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

www.youtube.com

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I've had that Monsters of Folk album show up in my Spotify algorhythms - likely due to my excessive My Morning Jacket listening - and saved it but haven't listened yet. I will try and get around to it now that I heard Ahead of the Curve on this playlist.

 

[tuffnutt]

28.
Ahead of the Curve- Monsters of Folk
from Monsters of Folk (2009)

In 2004,Conor along fellow Bright eyes member Mike Mogis formed a "Supergroup" of sorts with Jim James from My Morning Jacket, Will Johnson from Centro-matic and M. War while the members were on tour with their respective bands and solo projects. After playing together both on-stage and backstage, they started working together on various material. Due to the members' main projects, Monsters of Folk did not finish their first album until 2009.

Ahead of the Curve is the best of the Oberst led songs on the album. The song deals with restlessness in the face of comfort, and the means to keep ahead of that feeling. Up next is the most "angsty" song on the countdown and one that Conor wrote while still in High School.

 

[tuffnutt]

Napalm -- Yep, Oberst sounds like Dylan here. Not just in the vocal, in the entire structure and arrangement. But not in an obvious ripoff kind of way.
Disposable Sunshine -- This is all-around excellent '90s-ness, down to the band name, Loser.

Yeah, I guess I find something new to me like Oberst and get a little carried away, but he's still making a nice impression on me. So much so, I'm sharing his stuff with others irl.

Thats awesome! When I went the Bright Eyes show last month, I was kinda surprised how many people in my circle had no idea who they were.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Before this I only knew the Forever Changes album for Love and a handful of songs from Humble Pie, and I'm really enjoying the selections so far. Doobies I knew a lot more of their catalogue but not completely and have liked their inclusion here as well.

 

[tuffnutt]

29s

Playing catchup from last rd.

Known Favs:

The Unforgiven- Metallica- Overplayed but still a great tune
Devils Haircut- Beck- One of my favs by him
Bury Me- Smashing Pumpkins- Love Gish... interested to see where you rank others from album
Bell- Bottom blues- Derek and the Dominos- forgot how great that one was/is

Unknown Favs:

Sensible Heart-City and Coulor - After every song I always think to myself, why did I never get into these guys?
Dear Diary- Luna- Enjoying their playlist thus far
When Something stands for Nothing- Headstones 3 for 3 on likes
Your Mind and We Belong Together- Love- Really liked this one
Read Army Blues- The Water Boys- My favorite new to me this round

Honorable Mentions:

A kiss is a terrible thing to waste- Meatloaf- Classic Meatloaf sound
Signed Sealed- Humble Pie- love the vibe of this one
Home- Caro Emerald- Enjoying this play list as well

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Songs that were new to me that stuck out this round:

Paris - Caro Emerald (cool sophisticated sound)
Ahead of the Curve - Monsters of Folk
Tiny Teddy - Headstones (favorite this round)
Five string serenade - Arthur Lee
Church Not Made With Hands - The Waterboys
Black Postcards - Luna

Love the Beck, Clapton, Billy and Otis selections that I already knew as well.