I didn't make a 1 for 1 deal, but today I traded Ronnie Brown and Mike Bell for Tomlinson and Mike Turner in a redraft league.Has anyone been able to dangle Mike Bell in front of the Tatum owner and get anyone to bite? What kind of offers are you making, or what has anyone been able to get?TIAKnowlt
I like this trade, especially if you have solid RB's. You get a proven stud WR and give up a guy w/ tremendous upside, but just as much downside. Nice workJust traded him in a 12 team redraft ppr league. I sent Mike Bell + L Coles and got Marvin Harrison.
Thanks. That was my working theory. Bell would've been my 3rd or 4th back but I upgraded my starting WR.Significant Shrinkage said:I like this trade, especially if you have solid RB's. You get a proven stud WR and give up a guy w/ tremendous upside, but just as much downside. Nice workpelland said:Just traded him in a 12 team redraft ppr league. I sent Mike Bell + L Coles and got Marvin Harrison.
People who still believe this... well... I just don't know how to respond. Don't let a mountain of evidence to the contrary get in your way. Believe what you want.nightshift said:When Tatum Bell overtakes him, then we'll have a whole new ball game!
gadkins said:Had my draft last night. Bell went in the third round. The guy that drafted him was camping and I was taking his picks over the phone. So I was running down the list of picks so far and came across Mike Brown. He said who is that? I said the starting RB for Denver. He didn't believe me and thinks I'm pulling his leg. (GDB drafting with people who use out dated magazines.)
Why would you want trade him anyway? Owning the Den. RB is like having pure gold. I really don't get posts like this. I guess it's just that time or year around here. Time to lurk some and run away and hide until march.Knowlt said:Has anyone been able to dangle Mike Bell in front of the Tatum owner and get anyone to bite? What kind of offers are you making, or what has anyone been able to get?TIAKnowlt
I had offered Mike Bell and Jamal Lewis or Cedrick Benson for Roy Williams and Greg Jones... the guy declined. He put up a show thinking about it- but I don't think he was real interested in giving up Williams. I'm happy now. Looks like Tatum MAY be traded, and looks like Mike Bell may keep the job afterall!!!
I may be a little slow and missed the thread, do you have a link that indicates an imminent trade of Tatum Bell?Looks like Tatum MAY be traded, and looks like Mike Bell may keep the job afterall!!!
Take a look at my roster in my siggyI strongly believe Roy Williams is a 5-8 ranked WR this season. 3rd year WR rule, the other 2 #1 picks are going to be cut or buried on the depth chart. He's going to be a surprise this yearI also believe the same for Andre Johnson (7-10), so this trade was more of just to upgrade and give me trade bait for later- perhaps a roy williams/chester taylor package for a stud starter. I hardly consider Jamal Lewis a "great starting RB." He's my 4th RB right now if I had to rank mine. Not to mention he has the same injury that kept him on the PUP list before camp startedNot to mention that Mike Bell's job is still up in the air pending a TBell trade or if he fumbles again...I had offered Mike Bell and Jamal Lewis or Cedrick Benson for Roy Williams and Greg Jones... the guy declined. He put up a show thinking about it- but I don't think he was real interested in giving up Williams. I'm happy now. Looks like Tatum MAY be traded, and looks like Mike Bell may keep the job afterall!!!your lucky he declined. Wow two great starting RBs for a decent WR? What is going on around here?
No, that's why I capiltalized MAY. I suppose I should have bolded, underlined, and itallicized itIt is merely a rumorI may be a little slow and missed the thread, do you have a link that indicates an imminent trade of Tatum Bell?Looks like Tatum MAY be traded, and looks like Mike Bell may keep the job afterall!!!
I'll give you one, but not the other.Mike Bell has been anoited the starter whether Bell is traded or not.Take a look at my roster in my siggyI strongly believe Roy Williams is a 5-8 ranked WR this season. 3rd year WR rule, the other 2 #1 picks are going to be cut or buried on the depth chart. He's going to be a surprise this yearI had offered Mike Bell and Jamal Lewis or Cedrick Benson for Roy Williams and Greg Jones... the guy declined. He put up a show thinking about it- but I don't think he was real interested in giving up Williams.
I'm happy now. Looks like Tatum MAY be traded, and looks like Mike Bell may keep the job afterall!!!your lucky he declined. Wow two great starting RBs for a decent WR? What is going on around here?
I also believe the same for Andre Johnson (7-10), so this trade was more of just to upgrade and give me trade bait for later- perhaps a roy williams/chester taylor package for a stud starter.
I hardly consider Jamal Lewis a "great starting RB." He's my 4th RB right now if I had to rank mine. Not to mention he has the same injury that kept him on the PUP list before camp started
Not to mention that Mike Bell's job is still up in the air pending a TBell trade or if he fumbles again...
Well, I'm not saying Tatum will beat him out now. It is Mike's job right now. But if Mike Bell fumbles, Tatum is right there to step in. If Tatum is gone, I think they are more likely to stay with him even if he fumbles a few times.I'll give you one, but not the other.Mike Bell has been anoited the starter whether Bell is traded or not.Take a look at my roster in my siggyI strongly believe Roy Williams is a 5-8 ranked WR this season. 3rd year WR rule, the other 2 #1 picks are going to be cut or buried on the depth chart. He's going to be a surprise this yearI had offered Mike Bell and Jamal Lewis or Cedrick Benson for Roy Williams and Greg Jones... the guy declined. He put up a show thinking about it- but I don't think he was real interested in giving up Williams.
I'm happy now. Looks like Tatum MAY be traded, and looks like Mike Bell may keep the job afterall!!!your lucky he declined. Wow two great starting RBs for a decent WR? What is going on around here?
I also believe the same for Andre Johnson (7-10), so this trade was more of just to upgrade and give me trade bait for later- perhaps a roy williams/chester taylor package for a stud starter.
I hardly consider Jamal Lewis a "great starting RB." He's my 4th RB right now if I had to rank mine. Not to mention he has the same injury that kept him on the PUP list before camp started
Not to mention that Mike Bell's job is still up in the air pending a TBell trade or if he fumbles again...
I agree. If Tatum Bell overtakes Mike Bell, we have a whole new ball game. Maybe Baseball or Soccer, or maybe even Croquet. I don't know, all I know is that if Tatum's in front of Mike, it's obviously not football they're playing.nightshift said:When Tatum Bell overtakes him, then we'll have a whole new ball game!
You sound bitter that your boy Dayne might be on the verge of being cut.I agree. If Tatum Bell overtakes Mike Bell, we have a whole new ball game. Maybe Baseball or Soccer, or maybe even Croquet. I don't know, all I know is that if Tatum's in front of Mike, it's obviously not football they're playing.nightshift said:When Tatum Bell overtakes him, then we'll have a whole new ball game!
Just pointing out I don't think TBell being traded will effect MBell starting role.On the contrary to your thought, If MBell fumbles 2 time too many, I can see Shanny going to TBell(assuming he is there) or someone else.Well, I'm not saying Tatum will beat him out now. It is Mike's job right now. But if Mike Bell fumbles, Tatum is right there to step in. If Tatum is gone, I think they are more likely to stay with him even if he fumbles a few times.I'll give you one, but not the other.Mike Bell has been anoited the starter whether Bell is traded or not.Take a look at my roster in my siggyI strongly believe Roy Williams is a 5-8 ranked WR this season. 3rd year WR rule, the other 2 #1 picks are going to be cut or buried on the depth chart. He's going to be a surprise this yearI had offered Mike Bell and Jamal Lewis or Cedrick Benson for Roy Williams and Greg Jones... the guy declined. He put up a show thinking about it- but I don't think he was real interested in giving up Williams.
I'm happy now. Looks like Tatum MAY be traded, and looks like Mike Bell may keep the job afterall!!!your lucky he declined. Wow two great starting RBs for a decent WR? What is going on around here?
I also believe the same for Andre Johnson (7-10), so this trade was more of just to upgrade and give me trade bait for later- perhaps a roy williams/chester taylor package for a stud starter.
I hardly consider Jamal Lewis a "great starting RB." He's my 4th RB right now if I had to rank mine. Not to mention he has the same injury that kept him on the PUP list before camp started
Not to mention that Mike Bell's job is still up in the air pending a TBell trade or if he fumbles again...
No, he's just pointing out the obviousYou sound bitter that your boy Dayne might be on the verge of being cut.I agree. If Tatum Bell overtakes Mike Bell, we have a whole new ball game. Maybe Baseball or Soccer, or maybe even Croquet. I don't know, all I know is that if Tatum's in front of Mike, it's obviously not football they're playing.nightshift said:When Tatum Bell overtakes him, then we'll have a whole new ball game!
Perhaps because you drafted M. Bell in a draft before he was even named the starter, just on a flier. Perhaps because you are already loaded at RB, so even if M. Bell 2006 = M. Anderson 2005, he would have a hard time cracking your starting lineup. Perhaps because you might have need areas at other positions on your team, and can afford to deal from a position of strength. These are thoughts that just cross my mind, since they apply to my situation in my league.I really don't get posts like yours. I guess it's just that time of year around here.Why would you want trade him anyway? Owning the Den. RB is like having pure gold. I really don't get posts like this. I guess it's just that time or year around here. Time to lurk some and run away and hide until march.Knowlt said:Has anyone been able to dangle Mike Bell in front of the Tatum owner and get anyone to bite? What kind of offers are you making, or what has anyone been able to get?
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His value is huge right now - if you need to shore up your WR or QB situation, and you have the depth - and I dunno, you want to improve your team. I got him off waivers in a league -- of course I am shoping him - I'm deep as hell at RB, I can get some bank with some of the people who were sleeping at the draft - and later at the waiver wire.I don't get the disconnect. It's not like we're talking LT2, LJ or SA.....Why would you want trade him anyway? Owning the Den. RB is like having pure gold. I really don't get posts like this. I guess it's just that time or year around here. Time to lurk some and run away and hide until march.Knowlt said:Has anyone been able to dangle Mike Bell in front of the Tatum owner and get anyone to bite? What kind of offers are you making, or what has anyone been able to get?TIAKnowlt
Not bitter in the slightest. I'm a fan first, and a FFer second. I've never argued that Dayne's a great RB, just that he'd be a great fantasy RB as the #1 in Denver's system, and that Tatum Bell wasn't going to be the #1. I underrated UFA Mike Bell and didn't expect him to beat out Dayne for a job, but if it's better for my Broncos, then it doesn't bother me one little bit.You will notice that Mike Bell LEAPFROGGED Tatum Bell. You will notice that Tatum Bell has *NEVER ONCE* been #1 on the depth chart. In his short time in Denver, he has had Quentin Griffin, Mike Anderson, Reuben Droughns, Ron Dayne, and Mike Bell ahead of him on the depth chart. People have twice leapfrogged him directly from #3 to #1 (first Ron Dayne, then Mike Bell). How on earth is anyone still seeing reality and concluding that Tatum Bell is anything but the longest shot on Denver's roster to become the #1 back?You sound bitter that your boy Dayne might be on the verge of being cut.I agree. If Tatum Bell overtakes Mike Bell, we have a whole new ball game. Maybe Baseball or Soccer, or maybe even Croquet. I don't know, all I know is that if Tatum's in front of Mike, it's obviously not football they're playing.nightshift said:When Tatum Bell overtakes him, then we'll have a whole new ball game!
I agree that it's great to own the Denver RB, but if someone offered me Tomlinson for Mike Bell, I'd do it in a heartbeat. I'd trade Mike Bell for Antonio Gates and Peyton Manning. I'd trade Mike for Torry Holt straight up.Never say anyone is untradeable. I'm very high on Denver RBs, but if there's someone else out there who is even higher, then absolutely I'm willing to deal. No matter how high you are on a player, there's going to be someone else who is even higher (or who is equally high, but undervalues some players that you really like). That's how trades happen.Why would you want trade him anyway? Owning the Den. RB is like having pure gold. I really don't get posts like this. I guess it's just that time or year around here. Time to lurk some and run away and hide until march.Knowlt said:Has anyone been able to dangle Mike Bell in front of the Tatum owner and get anyone to bite? What kind of offers are you making, or what has anyone been able to get?TIAKnowlt
I would probably trade away the rights to Warvin Harrison to get Bell, too. Talk about a shark move!I may very well be the goat by doing this trade in a dynasty league.
As I mention in that thread, I drafted Whitehurst over Bell in May. I kepb Bell on my short list while picking the likes of DonTrell Morre, Skyler Green, Charlie Whitehurst, Reche Caldwell, and Bethel Johnson.
On top of that, RB isn't even a particular need for my team, while WR is.
After the trade in a league in which we start 2 RB and 3 WR:
Green, Trent KCC QB
Croyle, Brodie KCC QB
Pennington, Chad NYJ QB
Ramsey, Patrick NYJ QB
Campbell, Jason WAS QB
Portis, Clinton WAS RB
Betts, Ladell WAS RB
Taylor, Chester MIN RB
Moore, Mewelde MIN RB
Fason, Ciatrick MIN RB
Benson, Cedric CHI RB
Peterson, Adrian CHI RB
Barber, Marion DAL RB
Thompson, Tyson DAL RB
Bell, Mike DEN RB
Cobbs, Cedric DEN RB
Smith, Steve CAR WR
Bruce, Isaac STL WR
Caldwell, Reche NEP WR
Curtis, Kevin STL WR
McDonald, Shaun STL WR
Henry, Chris CIN WR
Cotchery, Jerricho NYJ WR
Crayton, Patrick DAL WR
Green, Skyler DAL WR
Henderson, Devery NOS WR
Johnson, Bethel NOS WR
Heap, Todd BAL TE
Rackers, Neil ARI PK
Baltimore DT
I'd had an awesome WR corps for three years running, but hadn't won the league since 2002, the last year I had a solid #2 RB in Travis Henry. This off-season, I decided to load up at RB to see what happens.
Definitely a huge risk, but that's what it's all about.
I passed on Bell so many times during the draft because I didn't think he had enough to beat out Dayne and Bell. I'm still reserved, and could very well have shot myself in the foot. Time will tell.
I'll probably trade for a #2 WR before the season.
IMO, that's not as appealing as it seems. Anyone who handcuffed Tatum Bell and Mike Anderson last year will tell you that it's an effen nightmare. Shanny will never let onto who is going to be the primary ball carrier. And more often than not, the news/info usually tends to mislead you. I don't think they are intentionally trying to fool the fantasy players, but they sure have a record of fooling the opposition.. I got to the point last year where I'd start them both just to get one of their points. java script:emoticon('Has anyone been able to dangle Mike Bell in front of the Tatum owner and get anyone to bite? What kind of offers are you making, or what has anyone been able to get?
I'm pretty sure that there is no possible way that I could disagree more with this post.Shanny *DID* let on who would be the primary ballcarrier, when he made statements like "Mike Anderson is the starting RB", or "Mike Anderson has not lost the starting job", or "Mike Anderson is still the starting RB", or even "Mike Anderson will start for us at RB this week". The news was not unclear, vague, or misleading. Shanahan made it 100% crystal clear that Mike Anderson would be the starting RB for the Denver Broncos every single week of the season except for week 17, where he made it crystal clear that Anderson WOULD NOT start.Second off, it wasn't a nightmare in the slightest. If you had just started Denver's starting RB every single week of the season last year (Mike Anderson weeks 1-16, Tatum Bell week 17), you would have wound up with 223.8 fantasy points last year, which would have been good for the #9 ranked fantasy RB, just 2 points behind LaMont Jordan. So starting Denver's STARTING RB (who Shanahan very clearly designated before each and every game) was about as much of a "nightmare" as starting LaMont Jordan every single week would have been.I only hope that my RB2 situation is as much of a mess this year as it was last.Darcimer said:IMO, that's not as appealing as it seems. Anyone who handcuffed Tatum Bell and Mike Anderson last year will tell you that it's an effen nightmare. Shanny will never let onto who is going to be the primary ball carrier. And more often than not, the news/info usually tends to mislead you. I don't think they are intentionally trying to fool the fantasy players, but they sure have a record of fooling the opposition.. I got to the point last year where I'd start them both just to get one of their points. java script:emoticon('Has anyone been able to dangle Mike Bell in front of the Tatum owner and get anyone to bite? What kind of offers are you making, or what has anyone been able to get?', 'smid_13')
You see the same sort of thing out of New England, which is why I am nervous about handcuffing Maroney to Dillon this year. But if you are going to try to get the Tatum owner to bite on M Bell, first he is going to have to put some numbers up. Second, you would probably look for a guy who didn't have either Denver Rb last year, as I still have a bad taste from it, if you hadn't noticed..
I'd dangle it in front of somebody else, try to capitalize on the upside, not insurance value..
late first. I definitely wouldn't take him before the top 8.King of the Jungle said:Where do you guys think Mike Bell should go in Dynasty rookie drafts?
*sigh*I don't think I would trade Reggie Wayne for every single RB on Denver's roster in a dynasty league right now.In a 1 point per reception, start 3 WR Dynasty league....I picked Mike Bell up off the waiver wire and once he was declared the starter....traded him straight up for Reggie Wayne.
Yes, I think I got very good value spurred by the Mike Bell Craze.*sigh*I don't think I would trade Reggie Wayne for every single RB on Denver's roster in a dynasty league right now.In a 1 point per reception, start 3 WR Dynasty league....I picked Mike Bell up off the waiver wire and once he was declared the starter....traded him straight up for Reggie Wayne.
I would give up Mike Bell for Santana Moss straight up.I would give up Mike Bell for Hines Ward straight up, but not with Sinorice thrown in.I would give up Mike Bell for a 1st round rookie pick if I thought that it was likely to be a top 3-5 rookie pick.I would give Bell/2nd for Bennett/1st if I was convinced that the rookie pick would be a top 1-2 pick.Seen offered in various leagues:Mike Bell for Kevan BarlowMike Bell for Santana MossMike Bell and Sinorice Moss for Hines Ward.Mike Bell for a first round rookie pickMike Bell + 2nd round rookie pick for Michael Bennett and 1st round rookie pickThe Santana Moss one was completed, the rest only inquiries.
I would actually agree with the sentiment except for one thing. I think that when Tatum's gone from Denver, he's going to wind up somewhere else and become the undisputed #1. If that happens, he'll have really solid fantasy value. I wouldn't trade Reggie Wayne for MBell/Dayne/Cobbs/Nash, though.*sigh*I don't think I would trade Reggie Wayne for every single RB on Denver's roster in a dynasty league right now.In a 1 point per reception, start 3 WR Dynasty league....I picked Mike Bell up off the waiver wire and once he was declared the starter....traded him straight up for Reggie Wayne.