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Miles Austin's Outlook With Kitna (1 Viewer)

packersfan said:
Since there was an objection about discussing Austin's outlook with Kitna in the other Austin thread I thought I'd create a separate one. Tonight we saw 33 pass attempts from Kitna and only two (by my count) targets for Austin. It's not like Kitna destroyed the value of the Dallas passing game either. Witten was huge, Bryant was a stud and even Jones got in the act on screens. Meanwhile, the team's leading receiver was literally ignored on nearly every pass attempt. So what does everyone think? Are Austin owners still starting him with confidence and hoping a full week of reps with Kitna will get the two on the same page? Or do you think there were enough troubling signs on display tonight to cause you to pull back from Austin and relegate him to matchup status only as opposed to being the standout WR1 he had been previously? As a depressed Austin owner I'm about to drink heavily before passing out tonight. What does everyone else think?
He was taken out of last game too so I wouldn't necessarily attribute that to Kitna. The Giants obviously made it a point of their game planning to take him out of the game as did the Vikings. I think what you're dealing with here is a blueprint for beating Dallas which could actually be worse for Austin owners.That being said, 2 bad games in a row is cause for worry but I wouldn't necessarily think that it's going to stay that way because of Kitna. I think Austin is going to learn how to effectively get open with better coverage.I will say it's looking great for Witten and Bryant owners though.
With Romo out, Big Red might actually try to establish a running game now. The whole Dallas offense could be changed to fit Kitna. And if teams choose to defend Dallas with Kitna the way they defended Dallas with Romo, it could be to their detriment. Bryant can take the receiver screens to the house. Witten can move the chains. Felix and Barber could actually become factors in games. I wouldn't think teams will continue to give Austin as much attention now as they have been. He could end up doing a lot of damage in the future over the middle and on screens himself with Kitna throwing to him.
 
And it's not like Austin is a one-trick pony who can only run the go route. He'll adjust his game to Kitna as well. I think he'll be fine.

 
Ease up on packersfan. He's a longtime solid poster, and he posted one comment based on the disappointment on having a stud WR lose value in short order. No different than several comments that are posted on the boards.
Thanks zamboni. I've been here for several years and I'd like to think people know I don't act like a tool. They may not always agree with my opinions but one thing I don't do is come here and try to incite anyone by posting bullstuff or things of that nature. That's why I was so surprised my comments were taken the way they were. But if people thought I crossed a line, I apologize. It certainly wasn't my intent. I just have some real concerns about Austin going forward based on what transpired last night. Hopefully, a week of practice with the starters with help Kitna get on the same page with Austin but it's safe to say he's no longer a Must Start WR like he was before. He comes with risk now at least until we see more of what Kitna can do. I think everyone can agree on that. Anyway, thanks again. :eek:
Your post and bump yesterday was legit so don't take offense to what others on here are saying. I somewhat disagree with you about Austin's value though. I agree with MOP that after Kitna gets some practice time with the first team, it won't take long for him to get on the same page with Austin. Kitna is a veteran and not a terrible qb. He will take advantage of his weapons and Austin is his biggest weapon. You may not see it immediately but I think he will be a # 1 wr within a week or two. This team will keep throwing regardless of who is at qb.
Packersfan I always enjoy reading your posts so don't let anyone get under your skin here. I'll say it again folks buy low on Austin!
 
The overreaction to Dez Bryant scoring twice whie the Giants were boarding the planes to head back to New York is unbelievable. As soon as Dez Bryant is declared #1 on the depth charts or listed there by Bob Henry on his depth charts here at FBG please let the rest of us know.
to me, it's not that he scored 3 times, it's how he looked doing it. He looked like a man among boys.
 
I think the running game takes the biggest hit. Not that they were doing great but any hope for Felix/barber is gone IMO. I think Austin will be ok he was likely getting doubled and runs the deeper routes and with the giants pass rush it took him out of the game. I might approach a few panicky Austin owners and offer up the flavor of the day hoping they bite. They'll practice this week and get him in the gameplan. He's too good not to.
How does the running game take a hit coach?They BETTER run the ball or Kitna will get killed- and if you look at their schedule it is very condusive to runningAnd with their season down the tubes I believe Felix Jones IS the cowboy to own right now as they will truly try to see what they have in him as Barber is not good
well, because they could barely run the ball when they had a downfield threat of a passing attack. Kitna isn't going to scare teams like Romo did which means teams playing closer to the line which means less running room which means the running game takes a hit.
 
I think the running game takes the biggest hit. Not that they were doing great but any hope for Felix/barber is gone IMO. I think Austin will be ok he was likely getting doubled and runs the deeper routes and with the giants pass rush it took him out of the game. I might approach a few panicky Austin owners and offer up the flavor of the day hoping they bite. They'll practice this week and get him in the gameplan. He's too good not to.
How does the running game take a hit coach?They BETTER run the ball or Kitna will get killed- and if you look at their schedule it is very condusive to runningAnd with their season down the tubes I believe Felix Jones IS the cowboy to own right now as they will truly try to see what they have in him as Barber is not good
well, because they could barely run the ball when they had a downfield threat of a passing attack. Kitna isn't going to scare teams like Romo did which means teams playing closer to the line which means less running room which means the running game takes a hit.
romo doesn't scare anyone.kitna is more than serviceable to keep the run game afloat.
 
I think the running game takes the biggest hit. Not that they were doing great but any hope for Felix/barber is gone IMO. I think Austin will be ok he was likely getting doubled and runs the deeper routes and with the giants pass rush it took him out of the game. I might approach a few panicky Austin owners and offer up the flavor of the day hoping they bite. They'll practice this week and get him in the gameplan. He's too good not to.
How does the running game take a hit coach?They BETTER run the ball or Kitna will get killed- and if you look at their schedule it is very condusive to runningAnd with their season down the tubes I believe Felix Jones IS the cowboy to own right now as they will truly try to see what they have in him as Barber is not good
well, because they could barely run the ball when they had a downfield threat of a passing attack. Kitna isn't going to scare teams like Romo did which means teams playing closer to the line which means less running room which means the running game takes a hit.
romo doesn't scare anyone.kitna is more than serviceable to keep the run game afloat.
riiigghhhttt
 
38 year old had nearly 200 yds 2TDs and no INTs in 3 qtrs work.

prior to last night the Kitna Miles reps prob close to zero

Kitna Bryant reps plenty especially working Bryant out of his injury

Austin is a solid route runner and will be fine when they actually get reps, prob takes a hit on TDs

the real loser will be Roy Williams. 0 catches last night

 
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I think the running game takes the biggest hit. Not that they were doing great but any hope for Felix/barber is gone IMO. I think Austin will be ok he was likely getting doubled and runs the deeper routes and with the giants pass rush it took him out of the game. I might approach a few panicky Austin owners and offer up the flavor of the day hoping they bite. They'll practice this week and get him in the gameplan. He's too good not to.
How does the running game take a hit coach?They BETTER run the ball or Kitna will get killed- and if you look at their schedule it is very condusive to runningAnd with their season down the tubes I believe Felix Jones IS the cowboy to own right now as they will truly try to see what they have in him as Barber is not good
well, because they could barely run the ball when they had a downfield threat of a passing attack. Kitna isn't going to scare teams like Romo did which means teams playing closer to the line which means less running room which means the running game takes a hit.
romo doesn't scare anyone.kitna is more than serviceable to keep the run game afloat.
riiigghhhttt
wait, romo scares teams?
 
wait, romo scares teams?
wait, Kitna is better? He's going to scare them more? Romo has the ability to get the ball downfield, he has the ability to move in the pocket and create some time/space with scrambling ability and he's substantially better than Kitna at this stage of his career. Do you disagree?If I'm a DC, I'm putting guys in the box and moving them toward the line and I'm blitzing him constantly until he shows he can beat me.
 
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wait, romo scares teams?
wait, Kitna is better? He's going to scare them more? Romo has the ability to get the ball downfield, he has the ability to move in the pocket and create some time/space with scrambling ability and he's substantially better than Kitna at this stage of his career. Do you disagree?
I noticed Kitna moving around quite a bit in the pocket myself. He's not the threat Romo is talent wise, but I think he may be a much better leader of men.
 
wait, romo scares teams?
wait, Kitna is better? He's going to scare them more? Romo has the ability to get the ball downfield, he has the ability to move in the pocket and create some time/space with scrambling ability and he's substantially better than Kitna at this stage of his career. Do you disagree?
No i never said any of that. Romo is way better than Kitna. You said Romo scares teams and i think that is silly. He is a good QB in the NFl, that's it. Nothing more. He's inside the Top 8-10 QB's. Big deal.I think Kitna will be good enough to keep some sort of running game going. no more, no less.
 
wait, romo scares teams?
wait, Kitna is better? He's going to scare them more? Romo has the ability to get the ball downfield, he has the ability to move in the pocket and create some time/space with scrambling ability and he's substantially better than Kitna at this stage of his career. Do you disagree?
No i never said any of that. Romo is way better than Kitna. You said Romo scares teams and i think that is silly. He is a good QB in the NFl, that's it. Nothing more. He's inside the Top 8-10 QB's. Big deal.I think Kitna will be good enough to keep some sort of running game going. no more, no less.
read my editted post. He scares them in that he has the ability to keep them honest, not that they fear him. He can and will hit Austin over the top on the deep routes which stretches the field because teams have to respect it. They couldn't run with Romo and they aren't going to be a better running team without him.
 
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wait, romo scares teams?
wait, Kitna is better? He's going to scare them more? Romo has the ability to get the ball downfield, he has the ability to move in the pocket and create some time/space with scrambling ability and he's substantially better than Kitna at this stage of his career. Do you disagree?
No i never said any of that. Romo is way better than Kitna. You said Romo scares teams and i think that is silly. He is a good QB in the NFl, that's it. Nothing more. He's inside the Top 8-10 QB's. Big deal.I think Kitna will be good enough to keep some sort of running game going. no more, no less.
read my editted post. He scares them in that he has the ability to keep them honest, not that they fear him. He can and will hit Austin over the top on the deep routes which stretches the field because teams have to respect it. They couldn't run with Romo and they aren't going to be a better running team without him.
Kitna can do that. Have you ever seen him play? he's been in the league for 14 years for a reason. he has started games for 4 different NFL teams with three 20+ TD seasons and two seasons with over 4000 yards passing. He isn't nearly as atrocious as you think he is. Last night he was rusty and hasn't played in like 2 years. Being 38 isn't ideal and maybe he is too old at this point, but getting the ball up over the top and downfield has never been a problem for this guy.
 
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It seems to me that people are overreacting to this, sure he took a hit but its not like he is trash now. I think his floor is solid WR2 production, and ceiling is low WR1, depending mostly on matchup and strength of the opposing DL. People seem to forget that Calvin Johnson was putting up great numbers with Sean Hill on a Lion's team where he is the only WR on the team people truly fear. Dallas has a good backfield, not to mention 2 other good wideouts and a pro-bowl TE to give Miles a chance. I might look to sell if I can get a low-end WR1 out of it with upside, but don't go giving him away just yet. Kitna is not a bad QB.

 
wait, romo scares teams?
wait, Kitna is better? He's going to scare them more? Romo has the ability to get the ball downfield, he has the ability to move in the pocket and create some time/space with scrambling ability and he's substantially better than Kitna at this stage of his career. Do you disagree?
No i never said any of that. Romo is way better than Kitna. You said Romo scares teams and i think that is silly. He is a good QB in the NFl, that's it. Nothing more. He's inside the Top 8-10 QB's. Big deal.I think Kitna will be good enough to keep some sort of running game going. no more, no less.
read my editted post. He scares them in that he has the ability to keep them honest, not that they fear him. He can and will hit Austin over the top on the deep routes which stretches the field because teams have to respect it. They couldn't run with Romo and they aren't going to be a better running team without him.
Kitna can do that. Have you ever seen him play? he's been in the league for 14 years for a reason. he has started games for 4 different NFL teams with three 20+ TD seasons and two seasons with over 4000 yards passing. He isn't nearly as atrocious as you think he is. Last night he was rusty and hasn't played in like 2 years. Being 38 isn't ideal and maybe he is too old at this point, but getting the ball up over the top and downfield has never been a problem for this guy.
I know all about Kitna and he was a decent underrated QB, whether he can still play we'll see. My point is, can he throw, yes but not as well as Romo, can he move? a little but not nearly as good as Romo. He's not going to do anything better than Romo and DC's will know this and they are going to test him and until he can prove he can beat them they are going to crowd the line and blitz like mad. It will lead to more 3 and outs and fewer sustained drives.
 
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It seems to me that people are overreacting to this, sure he took a hit but its not like he is trash now. I think his floor is solid WR2 production, and ceiling is low WR1, depending mostly on matchup and strength of the opposing DL. People seem to forget that Calvin Johnson was putting up great numbers with Sean Hill on a Lion's team where he is the only WR on the team people truly fear. Dallas has a good backfield, not to mention 2 other good wideouts and a pro-bowl TE to give Miles a chance. I might look to sell if I can get a low-end WR1 out of it with upside, but don't go giving him away just yet. Kitna is not a bad QB.
The answer is you never know. New QBs come into the equation and can completely alter a WRs' value more than you can imagine. Look at the Kolb/Vick effect on Jackson/Maclin/Celek. Kitna could be an inferior QB to Romo by every measurable aspect, but if he keys on Miles Austin, then Austin could put up the same or even better numbers (I don't think this is going to happen, but it COULD). Or, Kitna could be awful, and completely destroy all value for the Dallas passing game a la Derek Anderson's effect in Arizona. We won't know until we see what he does on the field and what his tendencies are. Also, we don't know what kind of a game Jason Garrett will call for him. If he goes uber-conservative, then Witten and Felix's receptions could go way up an the WRs could be useless.
 
Obviously Austin takes a hit. He isn't useless by any means.

I'm worried about Kitna using Witten as a "crutch" so to say. People are arguing that Dez got reps with kitna... but Witten is a 1st string TE and probably didn't get reps with Kitna all that often either.

Like someone said above, I expect him to be a low end WR1/High end WR2 at this point rather than a Mid-High end WR1

 
I said this in the game thread, and I'm sure it's been mentioned already but...

It looked like he looked for Roy early and often after coming in, especially in the red zone. I'm sure someone has some target #s to confirm one way or another.

 
I said this in the game thread, and I'm sure it's been mentioned already but...It looked like he looked for Roy early and often after coming in, especially in the red zone. I'm sure someone has some target #s to confirm one way or another.
roy had like 2 targets from kitna. I expect nothing from roy from here on out.
 
Kitna Targets last nightAustin - 5Bryant - 7Roy - 3Witten - 11 (7 in the 4th)
I'd sure like to see some film of Austin's targets from Kitna. The only two catcheable ones I remember are the one he caught and the one in the end zone on a terrible throw from Kitna. If memory serves, two of Roy's targets came in the end zone.
 
38 year old had nearly 200 yds 2TDs and no INTs in 3 qtrs work.

prior to last night the Kitna Miles reps prob close to zero

Kitna Bryant reps plenty especially working Bryant out of his injury

Austin is a solid route runner and will be fine when they actually get reps, prob takes a hit on TDs

the real loser will be Roy Williams. 0 catches last night
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From what I was watching last night, Austin plays in the slot so much, I can't imagine Kitna not being able to find him for at least some quick slants and catch-and-runs. Surely if he can get the ball to Bryant and let him go to work after the catch, he can do the same with Miles. It'd be idiotic of them to completely ignore their best WR. I do think Witten gets a significant bump too, I haven't seen the guy that active since his 2007 glory year.

 
Actually, Roy may benefit from Kitna because they worked together for a couple years in Detroit. Roy's best season was with Kitna. They know each other already.

No, Austin takes the biggest hit of the Cowboy receivers. Not to day he isnt still a starter in fantasy terms, but I'd be very surprised if he performed like a #1 fantasy WR from here on out.

 
It'd be idiotic of them to completely ignore their best WR.
I agree. However, I wonder if Kitna thinks the team's best WR is Dez Bryant.
it doesnt matter what kitna thinks. he throws where he is told.
If that was the case last night that doesn't bode well at all for Austin's outlook.
he was 2nd in the team in targets on a night where kitna leaned on witten in a hurry up offense.
 
It'd be idiotic of them to completely ignore their best WR.
I agree. However, I wonder if Kitna thinks the team's best WR is Dez Bryant.
it doesnt matter what kitna thinks. he throws where he is told.
If that was the case last night that doesn't bode well at all for Austin's outlook.
he was 2nd in the team in targets on a night where kitna leaned on witten in a hurry up offense.
He was third behind Witten and Bryant when Kitna was on the field and trailing Bryant. I hope last night was just a case of him being more on the same page with Bryant because both are backups and even Roy because of their time together in Detroit because it's looking extremely bleak for Austin if that wasn't the case.
 
He was third behind Witten and Bryant when Kitna was on the field and trailing Bryant. I hope last night was just a case of him being more on the same page with Bryant because both are backups and even Roy because of their time together in Detroit because it's looking extremely bleak for Austin if that wasn't the case.
yeah the cowboys are def gonna lean on a rookie who has made some really stupid plays this season and has been limited by injuries most of the year instead of feeding the guy they just signed to a mega contract, can do anything on the field and is averaging 110-1700-11 over his past 16 games. that sounds logical.
 
He was third behind Witten and Bryant when Kitna was on the field and trailing Bryant. I hope last night was just a case of him being more on the same page with Bryant because both are backups and even Roy because of their time together in Detroit because it's looking extremely bleak for Austin if that wasn't the case.
yeah the cowboys are def gonna lean on a rookie who has made some really stupid plays this season and has been limited by injuries most of the year instead of feeding the guy they just signed to a mega contract, can do anything on the field and is averaging 110-1700-11 over his past 16 games. that sounds logical.
I didn't say it made any sense but if this game was all about logic there's no way in hell Ryan Fitzpatrick would be the No. 1 QB in points per game in fantasy right now. Nothing about this season has made a lick of sense in my opinion. At this point nothing would surprise me.Also, as much as I like Austin (and I think he's a stud talent), last night's game wasn't an aberration. It was his third poor game in the past four. He already had two poor games with Romo where he was generally ignored in the passing game. So I'm not sure we can sit here and safely conclude Austin won't be excluded considering it had already happened with a healthy Romo.
 
If Bryant does breakout (as an owner I hope he does) and takes over as top WR with his talent, Austin can only benefit from the double coverage transition.

 
I think the running game takes the biggest hit. Not that they were doing great but any hope for Felix/barber is gone IMO. I think Austin will be ok he was likely getting doubled and runs the deeper routes and with the giants pass rush it took him out of the game. I might approach a few panicky Austin owners and offer up the flavor of the day hoping they bite. They'll practice this week and get him in the gameplan. He's too good not to.
How does the running game take a hit coach?They BETTER run the ball or Kitna will get killed- and if you look at their schedule it is very condusive to running

And with their season down the tubes I believe Felix Jones IS the cowboy to own right now as they will truly try to see what they have in him as Barber is not good
well, because they could barely run the ball when they had a downfield threat of a passing attack. Kitna isn't going to scare teams like Romo did which means teams playing closer to the line which means less running room which means the running game takes a hit.
romo doesn't scare anyone.kitna is more than serviceable to keep the run game afloat.
Right, and Jerry Rice wasn't that good, Jordan was a hack, and Walter Payton ran like a girl. I'm guessing there are quite a few DCs in the league that would laugh at this statement.

 
wait, romo scares teams?
wait, Kitna is better? He's going to scare them more? Romo has the ability to get the ball downfield, he has the ability to move in the pocket and create some time/space with scrambling ability and he's substantially better than Kitna at this stage of his career. Do you disagree?
No i never said any of that. Romo is way better than Kitna. You said Romo scares teams and i think that is silly. He is a good QB in the NFl, that's it. Nothing more. He's inside the Top 8-10 QB's. Big deal.I think Kitna will be good enough to keep some sort of running game going. no more, no less.
Dude you are so wrong here it's not even funny.
 
I think the running game takes the biggest hit. Not that they were doing great but any hope for Felix/barber is gone IMO. I think Austin will be ok he was likely getting doubled and runs the deeper routes and with the giants pass rush it took him out of the game. I might approach a few panicky Austin owners and offer up the flavor of the day hoping they bite. They'll practice this week and get him in the gameplan. He's too good not to.
How does the running game take a hit coach?They BETTER run the ball or Kitna will get killed- and if you look at their schedule it is very condusive to running

And with their season down the tubes I believe Felix Jones IS the cowboy to own right now as they will truly try to see what they have in him as Barber is not good
well, because they could barely run the ball when they had a downfield threat of a passing attack. Kitna isn't going to scare teams like Romo did which means teams playing closer to the line which means less running room which means the running game takes a hit.
romo doesn't scare anyone.kitna is more than serviceable to keep the run game afloat.
Right, and Jerry Rice wasn't that good, Jordan was a hack, and Walter Payton ran like a girl. I'm guessing there are quite a few DCs in the league that would laugh at this statement.
dude, check yourself. you just compared romo to three of the greatest athletes of all time in their respective sports.

i am positive anyone in the world would laugh at your statement.

 
If Bryant does breakout (as an owner I hope he does) and takes over as top WR with his talent, Austin can only benefit from the double coverage transition.
Impossible. There is no way Bryant takes over as #1 with Austin in town. Despite his up and down games this year and despite the fact I cannot stand the Cowboys, Miles Austin is one the the best WR's in NFL at every route.
 
wait, romo scares teams?
wait, Kitna is better? He's going to scare them more? Romo has the ability to get the ball downfield, he has the ability to move in the pocket and create some time/space with scrambling ability and he's substantially better than Kitna at this stage of his career. Do you disagree?
No i never said any of that. Romo is way better than Kitna. You said Romo scares teams and i think that is silly. He is a good QB in the NFl, that's it. Nothing more. He's inside the Top 8-10 QB's. Big deal.I think Kitna will be good enough to keep some sort of running game going. no more, no less.
Dude you are so wrong here it's not even funny.
um, ok dude.
 
If I was an Austin owner, my biggest fear would be that Dallas goes back to focusing on the running game and playing good defense. It actually worked for them in the past and they actually won games with it. The pass happy offense has been wonderful for fantasy football owners who own Cowboys but all its got them in the real world is a 1-5 start.

 
If I was an Austin owner, my biggest fear would be that Dallas goes back to focusing on the running game and playing good defense. It actually worked for them in the past and they actually won games with it. The pass happy offense has been wonderful for fantasy football owners who own Cowboys but all its got them in the real world is a 1-5 start.
yeah it worked in the past when they had better rb's. barber stinksfelix gets hurtbarber doesnt playwhy abandon the pass when it is your greatest strength.
 
If I was an Austin owner, my biggest fear would be that Dallas goes back to focusing on the running game and playing good defense. It actually worked for them in the past and they actually won games with it. The pass happy offense has been wonderful for fantasy football owners who own Cowboys but all its got them in the real world is a 1-5 start.
Dallas has shown this year they cannot run the ball. Not sure if the O line just stinks this year, but they will have to pass.
 
Out of the 3 choices, I'd say Bad.

I think it can't be good because Kitna isn't as good as Romo and Romo had a solid connection with Austin. I don't think it's UGLY because Dallas can't run the ball, Miles Austin is not injured himself and is a very good wide receiver. Kitna will pass A LOT.

The problem could also be how long will Kitna stay healthy. Romo was mobile, he was always on the move creating time with his agility. Kitna will be pounded and honestly I'll be suprised if Kitna is the starter from now until the end of the season, very surprised.

 
i dont see why this would be a hit to austin hes one of the best yac players ive ever seen. hes basically an rb with incredibly good hands.

 
thehornet even though youre selling him short how do u not think a guy in the top 10 of QBs is a big deal. more importantly hes in the great qb category after which there is an insane dropoff.

 
thehornet even though youre selling him short how do u not think a guy in the top 10 of QBs is a big deal. more importantly hes in the great qb category after which there is an insane dropoff.
i'm not really sure what you are sayin here, but.......I do think Romo is a good QB. I do not think he is a great QB and I definitely don;t think he is a feared QB. I think of Manning and Elway types when asked what QB's are scary good.
 
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If I was an Austin owner, my biggest fear would be that Dallas goes back to focusing on the running game and playing good defense. It actually worked for them in the past and they actually won games with it. The pass happy offense has been wonderful for fantasy football owners who own Cowboys but all its got them in the real world is a 1-5 start.
um, have you seen their Defense?
 
The biggest problem for Austin owners (I'm one) will be the O-line and Kitna's inability to move in the pocket (to keep plays alive). While Miles has all the skill in the world, will Kitna have time to find him? Oh, and the bad habbit of Austin getting the dropsies again. I thought he left that behind pre-2009. I guess not.

 
thehornet even though youre selling him short how do u not think a guy in the top 10 of QBs is a big deal. more importantly hes in the great qb category after which there is an insane dropoff.
i'm not really sure what you are sayin here, but.......I do think Romo is a good QB. I do not think he is a great QB and I definitely don;t think he is a feared QB. I think of Manning and Elway types when asked what QB's are scary good.
When i said feared, as I think I've said, I didnt mean that he is a great qb or an all time great that you seem to think. I'm talking about a good qb where his abilities need to be respected by the defense. Hes got good scrambling ability which is necessary with this line, he's got a good arm and can hit wrs down field. He can stretch the field much more than his replacement and I think it will diminish what little hope I had that jones or barber will be fantasy relevant this year. I think Austin will be fine, not unaffected but still a very startable wr.
 

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