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psycho lions fan
Footballguy
Cant get rid of the mascot!
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
What saved his job was that he was driving a Ford.
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
If Ford likes that, imagine how much he'd enjoy having football explained to him by someone who actually understood it.well, he still has about two seasons to go to reach 100 losses as a GM. If Favre can come back for his milestones, why not Millen?In all seriousness, on the radio a few weeks back, I heard what could be the explanation for why Millen remains employed, and it is a very lame one: a beat writer mentioned that he believes Millen still has a job because every Monday morning he sits with William Clay Ford Sr. and goes through the game tape with him, and explains all the "football details" (coverages, schemes, stunts, etc.) about each and every play. And Ford likes that.
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-OZ-
Footballguy
Tell me you're joking.At least your avatar is hot.Not a surprise, but still a disapointment.Can a city vote to move a franchise and get a new one?
MSULions
Footballguy
http://www.mlive.com/sportsflash/mic...michigansports
ALLEN PARK, Mich. (AP) — Detroit Lions general manager Matt Millen said Tuesday that quitting is not an option that he has considered despite criticism of the team's dismal performance in his tenure.
"I'll never quit," Millen said in an interview with a small group of reporters, including The Detroit News, which posted some of his comments on its Web site. "I can't do that. I don't even consider that.
"It's the way I'm made."
Asked why he wouldn't quit, Millen replied: "You're given a job, regardless of what it is. You keep on working and trying to get the thing done."
Messages seeking comment on Millen's remarks were left Tuesday with spokesmen for the Lions. Lions coach Rod Marinelli didn't have any definitive word on Millen's future at his news conference earlier in the day.
About 100 Detroit Lions fans held a protest during the second quarter of Detroit's last home game of the season Dec. 24 against the Chicago Bears. The fans left their seats midway through the quarter and gathered in Ford Field's atrium, where they chanted "Fire Millen" while watching the game on the scoreboard.
Detroit is an NFL-worst 24-72 since Millen took control of football operations before the 2001 season.
ALLEN PARK, Mich. (AP) — Detroit Lions general manager Matt Millen said Tuesday that quitting is not an option that he has considered despite criticism of the team's dismal performance in his tenure.
"I'll never quit," Millen said in an interview with a small group of reporters, including The Detroit News, which posted some of his comments on its Web site. "I can't do that. I don't even consider that.
"It's the way I'm made."
Asked why he wouldn't quit, Millen replied: "You're given a job, regardless of what it is. You keep on working and trying to get the thing done."
Messages seeking comment on Millen's remarks were left Tuesday with spokesmen for the Lions. Lions coach Rod Marinelli didn't have any definitive word on Millen's future at his news conference earlier in the day.
About 100 Detroit Lions fans held a protest during the second quarter of Detroit's last home game of the season Dec. 24 against the Chicago Bears. The fans left their seats midway through the quarter and gathered in Ford Field's atrium, where they chanted "Fire Millen" while watching the game on the scoreboard.
Detroit is an NFL-worst 24-72 since Millen took control of football operations before the 2001 season.
-OZ-
Footballguy
I wouldn't quit either. No expectations from the boss, no stress, a cozy job, why quit?
CalBear
Footballguy
You have to live in Detroit.
fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
I would seriously stop being a fan of the Lions until they actually showed the mentality that they actually want to improve.
Good thing I am not a Lions fan, though.
Good thing I am not a Lions fan, though.
Mark this a top the long list of Detroit Lions blunders for the 2007 season....
With one of the worst records in the league, the Lions staff has the opportunity to run practices for the upcoming Senior Bowl game. However, seeing that they just got rid of the DC, O-line and special teams coach, along with the fact that Marinelli is having some kind of hip surgery, the team has passed on those duties.
A chance to get ahead, jump start on scouting, see some of these guys up close and personal, and they screw that up too.
With one of the worst records in the league, the Lions staff has the opportunity to run practices for the upcoming Senior Bowl game. However, seeing that they just got rid of the DC, O-line and special teams coach, along with the fact that Marinelli is having some kind of hip surgery, the team has passed on those duties.
A chance to get ahead, jump start on scouting, see some of these guys up close and personal, and they screw that up too.
mightyeskimo
Footballguy
Kip Dynamite
Footballguy
Calvin Johnson here we come
King of the Wolfies
Footballguy
I offer my condolences to all Lions fans.
Any confirmatin that Millen is thinking of drafting Ryan Leaf?
Any confirmatin that Millen is thinking of drafting Ryan Leaf?
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
... what a fooking joke.
RenegadeGM
Footballguy
good news for the Senior Bowl players.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Matt Millen = Black Knight (Monty Python and the Holy Grail) - "It's just a flesh wound."
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Maelstrom
Footballguy
I was gonna say almost the exact same thing. Most people thought the Lions first rounds picks were fairly good except for maybe Mike Williams, and that only because DET had already drafted WRs two years running. I think lack of consistency at coaching and system has been a bigger problem (and yes, that can be laid at Millen's feet also, probably) - first they hired a first year head coach when Millen was brand new at his job, then Mooch who tried to shoehorn the Lions into something they didn't have the personel for. I really hope they give Marinelli a chance to truly build something, and that they don't listen to the Det fans who are already calling for his head (right next to Millen's). I'm not a big Lions fan (despite living in SE Mich), but Harrington was right about 1 thing here in Detroit - the attitude about the team from fans and media really stinks and unless a coach can convince the players to pay that attitude no heed (I think Marinelli can, bTW), Detroit will continue to struggle.One other thing, as far as tickets go, people enjoy going to NFL football games. Detroit folk are not going to drive to Cleveland or Cinncinati or even Chicago to go to a game, so Ford Field is their only true option. So you will see most/all of the season tickets sold, and sellouts for most/if not all the home games, no matter what kind of product is put on the field.Millen is surely awful, but people have gotta get off the thing with the high picks that busted. It's not like the Lions drafted unknowns, or picked bad players. Charles Rogers had lots of talent, and two season-ending injuries in a row. Roy Williams is great, and could have gone to the Pro Bowl this year. He may yet go as an alternate. And Mike Williams may have been a head-scratcher in that he was the third top-10 WR in a row, but talent-wise, he was considered an elite WR prospect, and Rogers was basicaly done by then anyway. And Joey Harrington is just the latest of the early QB busts - he was not a questionable selection like Akili Smith or even Alex Smith.Here is another mind boggling fact, Shawn Rogers is the only Millen draft pick to play in the pro bowl, and this is over a 6 year period. Considering how high some of the picks were, this speaks of how terrible he is."the Lions, who have lost 10 or more games for all six seasons Millen has been in charge"The above is just mind boggling!!!!
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Firing Beightol is a mistake. He is a very good OL coach.
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
I honestly think there is a chance they take Calvin Johnson. You know Martz will be gunning for him, and they don't NEED Joe Thomas, and they went through the trouble of signing Kitna and McCown.
Could happen...
Could happen...
Man this never gets old. Amazing how many people don't realize there are quite a few nice areas to live around the suburbs.
Agreed. Especially when you consider they started NINE different line combinations this year.
But, that's the GM. YOu talk over with the coach, BEFORE you hire them, what their plan is, and if you don't think it's going to work, you don't make the hire. The first round busts, which are largely a reflection of the coaching, outside of Rogers, are just a small segment of the picture. Harrington was decent in Miami this season, behind a pretty weak line. The situation hurt him, a lot. There are 7 rounds in the draft. You've got to occasionally find something. YOu can't misfire all the time, and they're not. They're just completely imept at developing the talent. That starts at the top, and that's at Millens feet. There's not an argument that can be made for keeping him, in a football sense. Yes, there are bright spots, but managing a business entity is a holistic movement. YOu've got to acquire the assets (players), and assemble the management to utilize the assets in a successful manner (coaches) while laying the framework for these two entities to meet the stated goals. He's failed in every phase, outside of taking some great playerd, simply because they're failing so miserably that they're picking so darn near the top every year. I just think it's a joke to keep the guy. regardless of what his defenders can put forth, they're the worst team in the league under his tenure. That says it all. Not even making baby steps forward. The absolute worst. Save for beating the floundering Cowboys, they would have been the worst team in the league.Maelstrom said:I was gonna say almost the exact same thing. Most people thought the Lions first rounds picks were fairly good except for maybe Mike Williams, and that only because DET had already drafted WRs two years running. I think lack of consistency at coaching and system has been a bigger problem (and yes, that can be laid at Millen's feet also, probably) - first they hired a first year head coach when Millen was brand new at his job, then Mooch who tried to shoehorn the Lions into something they didn't have the personel for. I really hope they give Marinelli a chance to truly build something, and that they don't listen to the Det fans who are already calling for his head (right next to Millen's). I'm not a big Lions fan (despite living in SE Mich), but Harrington was right about 1 thing here in Detroit - the attitude about the team from fans and media really stinks and unless a coach can convince the players to pay that attitude no heed (I think Marinelli can, bTW), Detroit will continue to struggle.One other thing, as far as tickets go, people enjoy going to NFL football games. Detroit folk are not going to drive to Cleveland or Cinncinati or even Chicago to go to a game, so Ford Field is their only true option. So you will see most/all of the season tickets sold, and sellouts for most/if not all the home games, no matter what kind of product is put on the field.Millen is surely awful, but people have gotta get off the thing with the high picks that busted. It's not like the Lions drafted unknowns, or picked bad players. Charles Rogers had lots of talent, and two season-ending injuries in a row. Roy Williams is great, and could have gone to the Pro Bowl this year. He may yet go as an alternate. And Mike Williams may have been a head-scratcher in that he was the third top-10 WR in a row, but talent-wise, he was considered an elite WR prospect, and Rogers was basicaly done by then anyway. And Joey Harrington is just the latest of the early QB busts - he was not a questionable selection like Akili Smith or even Alex Smith.Here is another mind boggling fact, Shawn Rogers is the only Millen draft pick to play in the pro bowl, and this is over a 6 year period. Considering how high some of the picks were, this speaks of how terrible he is."the Lions, who have lost 10 or more games for all six seasons Millen has been in charge"The above is just mind boggling!!!!
What a joke:
ALLEN PARK, Mich. -- The Detroit Lions hired coach Rod Marinelli's son-in-law, Joe Barry, as the team's new defensive coordinator on Wednesday.
Barry, the linebackers coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, takes over for Donnie Henderson, who was fired Tuesday, two days after the team finished a dismal 3-13 season.
The Lions were to introduce Barry at a news conference Wednesday morning at the team's practice facility in Allen Park.
ALLEN PARK, Mich. -- The Detroit Lions hired coach Rod Marinelli's son-in-law, Joe Barry, as the team's new defensive coordinator on Wednesday.
Barry, the linebackers coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, takes over for Donnie Henderson, who was fired Tuesday, two days after the team finished a dismal 3-13 season.
The Lions were to introduce Barry at a news conference Wednesday morning at the team's practice facility in Allen Park.
igbomb
Footballguy
The statement above is total garbage. As a non-Lions fan resident of SE Michigan, the fans have as good as an attitude as is possible. Hell, half the people here thought they would compete for the division title this year. To put any blame for the team's performance on the fans is ignorant.Maelstrom said:I'm not a big Lions fan (despite living in SE Mich), but Harrington was right about 1 thing here in Detroit - the attitude about the team from fans and media really stinks and unless a coach can convince the players to pay that attitude no heed (I think Marinelli can, bTW), Detroit will continue to struggle.Here is another mind boggling fact, Shawn Rogers is the only Millen draft pick to play in the pro bowl, and this is over a 6 year period. Considering how high some of the picks were, this speaks of how terrible he is."the Lions, who have lost 10 or more games for all six seasons Millen has been in charge"The above is just mind boggling!!!!
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How can you say the fans attitude stinks when they sell out every game despite how terrible they are?The statement above is total garbage. As a non-Lions fan resident of SE Michigan, the fans have as good as an attitude as is possible. Hell, half the people here thought they would compete for the division title this year. To put any blame for the team's performance on the fans is ignorant.Maelstrom said:I'm not a big Lions fan (despite living in SE Mich), but Harrington was right about 1 thing here in Detroit - the attitude about the team from fans and media really stinks and unless a coach can convince the players to pay that attitude no heed (I think Marinelli can, bTW), Detroit will continue to struggle.Here is another mind boggling fact, Shawn Rogers is the only Millen draft pick to play in the pro bowl, and this is over a 6 year period. Considering how high some of the picks were, this speaks of how terrible he is."the Lions, who have lost 10 or more games for all six seasons Millen has been in charge"The above is just mind boggling!!!!
Al Czervik
Not wearing pants
Exactly. The O-line was terrible. They need help bad. I see Martz pushing the team to go after UFA Kevin Curtis.
Foosball God
Foos
Just another day in the life of a Lions fan. Someone pass me a 
SofaKings
Footballguy
He tried to hire him last year but I believe the Bucs wouldn't let him out of his contract.
stevegamer
Footballguy
Millen is so much a bigger joke than Fontes ever was.
Just get the player off the Lions or even snag a pick from them - poof! Instant value increase via demillenization.
Millen: 24-72
Fontes: 66-67 and 1-4 in the playoffs. (I know it's not great, but there is a playoffs record)
Admittedly it's a coach versus a GM, but it's pretty sad that the winningest coach in franchise history is thought of as close to Millen.
Just get the player off the Lions or even snag a pick from them - poof! Instant value increase via demillenization.
Millen: 24-72
Fontes: 66-67 and 1-4 in the playoffs. (I know it's not great, but there is a playoffs record)
Admittedly it's a coach versus a GM, but it's pretty sad that the winningest coach in franchise history is thought of as close to Millen.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Agreed it's not fair to compare Fontes. Also it seemed like every year Fontes was fighting for his job and on those occasions when he seemed truly vulnerable the team responded. Millen apparently is never in danger of being fired and the lack of response logically follows.
-QG
-QG
That's correct. So apparently Donnie Henderson was a "temp" from the beginning.
Maelstrom
Footballguy
It's the comments - even in your post, the fans have as good as attitude "as possible". There is a saying in Detroit that the two hardest positions to play are RW goalie and QB for the Lions. Because the fans and media turns on their team and calls for their heads - not in a constructive, informed manner in many case, but in a "oh, we lost, change the QB (add coach to this now as well, I think)". I'm talking about news articles I read, Lions fans I talk to, etc. Now that isn't a slap at Lions fans that ARE constructive and informed, because they are out there also and I have talked to them as well. There are some very passionate Lions fans that don't jump on the blame bandwagon, but I can't say that is the majority. I'm also not saying this is unique to the Lions.That is just my opinion, and anyone is welcome to think it is completely bunk, but I stand by it.As far as sellouts, people want to go to NFL games - I said that in my original post.Do the fans hold any responsibility for the product on the field? I don't know - obviously directly, NO, none whatsoever, but it has been seen what the crowd can do for teams (see Seattle's 12th man, etc.). If the players get booed minutes into the game (or when introduced) that has to sap their desire. Sure they SHOULD be professionals and do what they are paid to do, but attitude does play a big part, IMO.FWIW, I do root for the Lions to win as long as it's not against the Vikings, and I hope they do well. I don't think Millen has done a good job, but just wanted to point out that the picks themselves were not bad picks. Picking Coaches has been bad, developing talent has been bad (whether through the coach or some other way). I think the Lions need to look at the conditioning staff (don't know if that is coach's job or GM hires) but they cannot stay healthy - I think they are worst in the NFL for injuries (IR players) in the last 4 years. They definitely need an OL to have any kind of success, also.How can you say the fans attitude stinks when they sell out every game despite how terrible they are?The statement above is total garbage. As a non-Lions fan resident of SE Michigan, the fans have as good as an attitude as is possible. Hell, half the people here thought they would compete for the division title this year. To put any blame for the team's performance on the fans is ignorant.I'm not a big Lions fan (despite living in SE Mich), but Harrington was right about 1 thing here in Detroit - the attitude about the team from fans and media really stinks and unless a coach can convince the players to pay that attitude no heed (I think Marinelli can, bTW), Detroit will continue to struggle.Here is another mind boggling fact, Shawn Rogers is the only Millen draft pick to play in the pro bowl, and this is over a 6 year period. Considering how high some of the picks were, this speaks of how terrible he is."the Lions, who have lost 10 or more games for all six seasons Millen has been in charge"The above is just mind boggling!!!!
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
The trouble with the Lions taking Joe Thomas is that they're already paying Jeff Backus franchise player money at left tackle. Backus is worth nowhere near what he's making, but he is a pretty good pass protector and he's never missed a game.If you draft Thomas, he and Backus can't both play left tackle. Backus isn't going to switch positions - he's best suited to protect the blindside. So if you draft Thomas, you're drafting him to play right tackle. Sure, there's a need there, but is a right tackle worth the #2 overall pick?
Signing Williams was/is a disaster. He's bigger than MArcus Pollard (another bust sign) All the coaches have been/are disasters. I don't get it. Next year my Lion fans will be talking about them beating the Bears. I'll never forget Millen's first big FA signing. Az Hakim. I thought everybody knew he was a glorified punt return/slot guy.
They are good fans in Detroit, the team totally is gone though.
They are good fans in Detroit, the team totally is gone though.
TwinTurbo
Footballguy
I don't like the Thomas pick either. He's good but not elite IMO. I absolutely hate Jeff Backus, but the team is committed to him. The Lions also have a bad history of drafting O-line players. It's actually worse than the WR picks. Don't forget the back-to-back-to-back 1st round picks of Aaron Gibson, Stockar McDougal, and Jeff Backus. If there is a mediocre O-line pick to be made, the Lions will find a way!If I was GM, I would pick Adrian Peterson and not look back. But I doubt that happens. That guy has stud written all over him. I think he is the safest pick at the top of the draft, even more than Calvin Johnson. And Kevin Jones is not the long term answer. Matt Millen needs to draft a 1st round player that can contribute immediately and Peterson would be that guy.
