Minor vs Brown (1 Viewer)

[wannabee]

I, forone, expect to be wrong some. If you make 100 predictions, you cannot tell us you'd be 100 for 100. It is what it is. Nothing more. Put it into context and leave it there.

 

[Unlucky]

Chris Brown is talented, Travis Minor is not. The End

This was the 2nd post in the thread. We obviously didn't need any more posts after this, but we got plenty. I think the lesson to be learned here is that the #1 key to success in the NFL is talent. (talent, ability, skill - all synonyms) Good players are going to put up good numbers, and bad players aren't. Sometimes, the system can help or hurt a player, but often, it's a secondary factor. Chris Brown is a talented RB (when healhty) and Travis Minor isn't. I'm sure that if Brown played for Miami last year and Minor played for Tenn., Brown still would have outperformed Minor.

 

[fatness]

I just think it's funny how you shove it down people's throughts.

Oh cool. One of those modern marvels who claims everything they don't agree with is something that is being shoved down their throats. I'm sobbing real tears of sympathy here.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

I didn't even read all this crap. I had to stop. But, you've got to be kidding me.Might as well bump every thread somebody's right, and somebody's wrong on -- to get your kicks. It's clear David was sticking his neck out a bit. Good. Otherwise, we'd all read the exact same stuff.If you're attacking Yudkin for missing a beat, you're a hypocrite in some form.

 

[16101]

To make this clear:

I DID NOT BUMP THIS THREAD, someone else did. Bash him if you want.

And for the person talking about how new to the board I am. I've been coming to this site the past two years. Had posted under a different name at one point as well. I know what this place is like.

Also, I have no problem with the free info FBGs offers. I think it's great and find it rather useful. With that said, I could find out everything that I find out here by simply doing a little more research on my own and going to other free sites.

One other thing. I wasn't laughing at anything David Yudkin posted. I was laughing at Marc Levin for saying Travis Minor is a worthwhile 5th RD pick that could serve as a #2RB for your fantasy team last year. I would be laughing at anyone who made that claim wether it be a so called "expert" or the person sitting next to me at my own draft. It was a very poor claim by Mr. Levin if you ask me.

When I go to a pay site that has staff members telling me Travis Minor is a good 5th RD pick and good #2 back for my fantasy team, I'm gong to question what type of info they give out.

This is what I was laughing at:

HAHAHAHA!!!!!

I need to get into a league where someone takes Travis Minor over guys like A Johnson, Moulds, Chambers, D Jackson, or some of the other solid WR's that could be around in the 5th round. I'd say that more than half the teams in the league have more talented back-up RB's than Travis Minor.

Whatever. If you really can't imagine a person drafting in mid-August and taking Travis at RB in the 5th, you need to re-examine your ability to prognmosticate FF.In a 1/2/2, if I go RB in the first , and then 2 WRs and a QB the next three rounds, I might very well take Minor in the fifth at RB2.

 

[fatness]

The free features of this site (like this board, for example) cost money. Part of the income from the pay features of the site pay those costs. So that people can read and post here for free. Even people who don't like the site and say so repeatedly. Just wanted to make sure you're aware of where some of the money goes, and how this free board stays free.

 

[gzilla]

Chris Brown is talented, Travis Minor is not. The End

This was the 2nd post in the thread. We obviously didn't need any more posts after this, but we got plenty. I think the lesson to be learned here is that the #1 key to success in the NFL is talent. (talent, ability, skill - all synonyms) Good players are going to put up good numbers, and bad players aren't. Sometimes, the system can help or hurt a player, but often, it's a secondary factor. Chris Brown is a talented RB (when healhty) and Travis Minor isn't. I'm sure that if Brown played for Miami last year and Minor played for Tenn., Brown still would have outperformed Minor.

I think that there are 2 types of fantasy football owners. The type that first and foremost look at numbers and statistics to form their opinions of the potential success of a given player sometimes even in the face of what they may see (or not see) on the field. Then there is the type that forms their opinions first and foremost through watching players play even in the face of that player not posting the statistics.It is MY OPINION that the 2nd type of owner is the more likely to succeed. However, reading the opinion of some of the staff here, I know that some approach the game more like the first type of owner.

As for this prediction, it was very, very poor. Yudkin posted several stats to support his opinion up front but he ignores the fundamentals like...

1.) which RB has more ability (not questionable)

2.) what kind of situation will Minor be playing in. (not questionable)

Burning Sensation hit the nail on the head in the 2nd post.

While I don't think this in any way reflects on this website as a whole, Yudkin and Levin should be very embarrassed to say the least.

 

[16101]

The free features of this site (like this board, for example) cost money. Part of the income from the pay features of the site pay those costs. So that people can read and post here for free. Even people who don't like the site and say so repeatedly.

Just wanted to make sure you're aware of where some of the money goes, and how this free board stays free.

I said I like the free info. It's very good. Do you want me to thank the subscribers?

Bottom line. No matter how it is that this place stays free, there are plenty of other free places to go where I can get the same info. It really isn't that hard. Not only that, but when I go to those places I don't have to hear from the people that provide the information complain about what I think.

 

[LuckyOne]

Bucko, you wouldn't go to a party and piss on the hosts floor, would you? FBG has these FREE boards up so that the widest range of opinions can be gathered to the benefit of not only their subscriber's, but everyone on the boards. When someone is hospitible enough to give you something, why would you run them down? Throwing around insults for who knows what reason is in pretty poor taste. Quit pissing on the community carpet so we don't all have to smell your stench.That's all. Good day.

 

[16101]

Bucko, you wouldn't go to a party and piss on the hosts floor, would you?  FBG has these FREE boards up so that the widest range of opinions can be gathered to the benefit of not only their subscriber's, but everyone on the boards.  When someone is hospitible enough to give you something, why would you run them down?  Throwing around insults for who knows what reason is in pretty poor taste.  Quit pissing on the community carpet so we don't all have to smell your stench.

That's all.  Good day.

What am I doing wrong? I said I laughed at Marc Levin's comments. I'm still laughing at them because they were absolutely ridiculous. I've seen plenty of staff members laugh at or belittle other posters on this board for making comments they don't agree with. Why is it any different when the roles are reversed?As for the site being free, that's great, but it isn't going to effect my views on things. If this site didn't exist I'd still find out all the information I want relating to fantasy football somewhere else. And I'd still get it for free. You and everyone else could do the same thing if you wanted. I'm not telling people anything they shouldn't already know. Also, I said I think the free information on this site is great and I read it quite often. That's far from bashing the site. I've said it repeatidly.

As for throwing around insults, I don't know what you're referring to. I don't believe I insulted anyone and if I did, I apologize. I believe it was Mr. Levin himself that made this comment:

"Whatever. If you really can't imagine a person drafting in mid-August and taking Travis at RB in the 5th, you need to re-examine your ability to prognmosticate FF."

That may not be an insult, but it is an example of a staff member belittling a member of the site for having a different opinion than him. Not only that, but he sounds foolish because he's defending something that is absolutley ridiculous in the first place.

You talk about FBGs being hospitable and me running them down. I'm not running anyone down, I'm simply speaking the truth. I don't think you can deny that.

Futhermore, FBGs is a paysite, therefore they are a business. That means they make money off the people willing to buy their product. It also means they would like to have as many customers as they can possibly have because they make more money that way.

This message board may be free, but that benefits FBGs alot more than you and many others seem to realize. By having this free message board, everyone that visits it and posts in it becomes a potential customer. By keeping it free, it allows people to check this place out, see what they think of it and if they get hooked, pay $20(assuming it's the same price as last year) to become a member.

Bang! Instant money in their pocket. The guys that run FBG are wise to keep this message board free. In the long run it makes them money because of the customers they end up getting from it. Why do you think all the staff members pimp the site in their sigs?

It's a business pal and business is all about making money. If FBGs new they could still get the same rate of new subscribers each year without keeping the message board free, they may very well not be providing it for free. That doesn't matter though, the point it, this message board makes them more money than it costs them. And at this stage of the game, that is a big reason why the boards will always remain free. It's also why they give free information on the main home page up until a certain point. It makes them more money.

 

[Mr. Pink]

Bucko, you wouldn't go to a party and piss on the hosts floor, would you? FBG has these FREE boards up so that the widest range of opinions can be gathered to the benefit of not only their subscriber's, but everyone on the boards. When someone is hospitible enough to give you something, why would you run them down? Throwing around insults for who knows what reason is in pretty poor taste. Quit pissing on the community carpet so we don't all have to smell your stench.

That's all. Good day.

 

[fatness]

Bottom line. No matter how it is that this place stays free, there are plenty of other free places to go where I can get the same info. It really isn't that hard. Not only that, but when I go to those places I don't have to hear from the people that provide the information complain about what I think.

It seems that an intelligent person with that opinion would go to those boards to post. Unless of course those boards are just something they make up to argue about, or they are unable to post on them any more.

 

[16101]

Bottom line. No matter how it is that this place stays free, there are plenty of other free places to go where I can get the same info. It really isn't that hard. Not only that, but when I go to those places I don't have to hear from the people that provide the information complain about what I think.

It seems that an intelligent person with that opinion would go to those boards to post. Unless of course those boards are just something they make up to argue about, or they are unable to post on them any more.

FFToday Message BoardsNever had any problems there.

I come here because they provide good info also, It's just that everytime I use the message board here, some mod/staff member gets defensive as soon as they are criticized.