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fatness said:
fatness said:
. This is. It's thoroughly researched and well-sourced.
Bribes made to Chinese authorities?
It has been brought to my attention that a possible link between the White House and China occured in the days before MH370 went missing. Is it possible that our "First Lady" greased the palms of Chinese Communist officials, in order to allow our "President" to sacrifice the Chinese citizens, in order to attract attention away from Benghazi AND Crimea?
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And of course

Is this Malaysian man Barry Soetero's real father?
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More news from El Genius.

3/22/2014
A Frightening Turn of Events

Dear Friends and fellow Patriots. Yesterday evening, not too long after starting this website and, something startling and scary happened. A black van, with dark tinted windows, appeared in my neighborhood. Very mysterious, as I have never seen this van before. It was parked several houses down.

Needless to say, this frightened me. Could the NSA, FBI, CIA, or all of them, working in concert together, have been able to mobilize that fast? It is well known that they have the ability to monitor the citizens of this country, so it's not beyond the realm of reason that Obama has his goons sent to my home to watch me and intimidate me.

I slipped out of a back window in the middle of the night, and climbed over the fence in my backyard, traveled through a few back yards, and stayed over at a friend's house for the night. I drove through my neighborhood earlier this morning, and the van was still there. I was even more frightened than before. Finally, this afternoon, the van was gone. I went home, grabbed some clothes and my laptop, packed a bag, and left. I am now at a motel, and I will hop from motel to motel for several days before I even think about going back home. Pray for me, Friends and Patriots.
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Wow. Some people are simply paranoid freaks.

 
lod01 said:
lod01 said:
Not wavering from my theory that it is at the bottom of the ocean.

To those that think it landed, what is required for refueling? Gotta have a refueling truck. You also gotta be able to purchase jet fuel, somehow get it delivered. Forget the island bull####. It has to be a runway. Got to have a lit runway long enough for the plane. All has to be coordinated ahead of time. The US listens for suspected terrorist conversations. So does mossad. If this really happened and bin laden was still alive, he would be jacking in ecstasy of such a plot. All 600 landable runways are being checked. It would have to refuel, take off again and avoid radar.
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Bottom of the ocean theory. :yes:
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Could not be swayed from the obvious end result. :bowtie:

 
culdeus said:
avoiding injuries said:
DiStefano said:
Apple Jack said:
JetBlue planes have TVs for every seat and there is a channel that shows the plane's location on a map, as well as speed and altitude.
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And corporate jets have mainly first class type seats. Irrelevant, but I thought since JetBlue...
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Southwest doesn't have screens on their seats. They know people bring their screens with them in the form of tablets/phones/computers. The added weight would cost more in fuel. That's how they offer $69 flights.
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Someone has been watching march madness
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Over and over and over...
 
KingPrawn said:
Fat Nick said:
CNN has a headline that says, "Too much coverage of missing plane?" ...while covering the missing plane...WTF?
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BREAKING NEWS
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I watched this this am. That's a good show on CNN, "Reliable Sources." I recommend it, interesting breakdown of media coverage across the board every Sunday.

However one thing they did not mention is I think some conservatives maybe think that the disaster in the Ukraine should be getting priority coverage and that somehow Obama's missteps are being saved from niotice.

One thing they did point out though is that the other networks have had their ratings drop as CNN has handled this thoroughly, so of course Fox and msnbc are ridiculing the coverage.

 
Apple Jack said:
SaintsInDome2006 said:
jon_mx said:
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Ok I have reached a conclusion here (of course before all the facts are in...):

  • The plane was hijacked by terrorists, 1-2 on board (though not necessarily the fake passport guys). We know the pilots were susceptible to this because they brought the Aussie chicks up front previously; in fact they may have been targeted for just this reason.
  • The copilot was ordered to say 'good night' after the turn west was programmed
  • After crossing the peninsula, the plan was to turn the plane south, replot the course once near Kuala Lumpur, and fly them into the Kuala Lumpur towers, tallest or almost tallest in the world, a la WTC
  • The pilot or copilot tricked the hijacker by resetting the flight path; the plane turned south but it needed another turn to head towards KL.
  • The pilots or passengers realized the dastardly plot and sought to save KL from destruction and devastations and additional deaths. Something happened in the interim, either the hijacker(s) killed the pilots, or the pilots or passengers took on the hijackers, but in any event whoever was left standing could not change the flight path, so the plane kept going on its trajectory, tragically into the south Indian Ocean.
  • This explains why there has been no credit by any terror group. The terrorists never claimed credit because the plot failed and they don't want to reveal their idea and they're embarrassed.
  • This explains why the pilot had no real signs he was going to do this in advance.
I freely admit I don't know all the timeline, but what fails here in this scenario?
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1. Too many ways for the pilot to signal they were hi-jacked.

2. Does not explain why they went up to 45,000 feet.

3. Terrorists often do not claim credit for acts.
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About no. 2: I was actually on a plane that did that kind of hairpin turn. I was on a flight to Paris, basically settled in for a long flight, doze off.... my lady friend nudges me awake, points to the screen that shows the flight path, we've basically done a turnabout that looks like the angle of a hanger, we were in the Atlantic but now we're pointing back to Newfoundland. What occurs to you then? Yep, briefly after thinking that it could be something normal the possibility of a hijack does creep into your head... it was at that moment that the stewardess gets on the intercom and asks if there is a doctor on the plane, turned out an elderly gent had had a heart attack. This was a flight to Paris so of course like 6 guys walk to the back.

I'm guessing this event occurred after the turn west? I'm guessing the flying up to 45,000 feet situation occurred after the flight turned west. At some point the people begin to wonder what's going on, especially once they cross back to the peninsula instead of heading back to KL. I wonder what they were told if anything. Maybe the passengers begin to panic, turn frantic even. But at any rate at that point maybe the hijacker instructs the pilot to take the flight up and down to sicken the crowd or maybe to thin the air so they become sick, knocked off their feet or at least tired. I think this is consistent with the scenario.

About No. 1, I'm thinking the hijacker has a weapon of some kind, basically the pilot and copilot are threatened into compliance by the point of the turn west and are closely watched by the hijacker.

About no. 3, that's true, while the failure to take credit does not prove the hypothesis the fact that terrorists do not always take credit also does not exclude the hypothesis.
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Seriously?

And for like the 501st time, wrong_mx, getting hung up on whether responsibility is claimed or not completely misses the point. If the media are reporting that it's terrorism, it's not necessary to risk the exposure to claim responsibility. But associates would be very likely to now due to the fact that the news is not talking terrorism.
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Ha, yeah, you mean do I overreact much? I think I said briefly and that I considered normal possibilities like mechanical or a health issue, and maybe my friend may have put the idea in my head (and then I said "naaahhhh"), but it's a weird situation to see that hairpin turn on your screen as you're waking up and you're well on your way back west and you haven't heard anything from the Captain. The point is that these passengers at some point, whether they had one of those map screens or not, probably started to absolutely freak out. If it was hijacked maybe they were told, or maybe they were not. Same thing happened with the 9/11/01 flight that crashed in PA, if they weren't told anything, or if they were told a cover story, they would have noticed the turn west and eventually become quite agitated. It may have actually looked like that scene from Airplane but on a much more serious, deathly level. At some point that cabin became absolute horrific mayhem.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Apple Jack said:
SaintsInDome2006 said:
jon_mx said:
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Ok I have reached a conclusion here (of course before all the facts are in...):

  • The plane was hijacked by terrorists, 1-2 on board (though not necessarily the fake passport guys). We know the pilots were susceptible to this because they brought the Aussie chicks up front previously; in fact they may have been targeted for just this reason.
  • The copilot was ordered to say 'good night' after the turn west was programmed
  • After crossing the peninsula, the plan was to turn the plane south, replot the course once near Kuala Lumpur, and fly them into the Kuala Lumpur towers, tallest or almost tallest in the world, a la WTC
  • The pilot or copilot tricked the hijacker by resetting the flight path; the plane turned south but it needed another turn to head towards KL.
  • The pilots or passengers realized the dastardly plot and sought to save KL from destruction and devastations and additional deaths. Something happened in the interim, either the hijacker(s) killed the pilots, or the pilots or passengers took on the hijackers, but in any event whoever was left standing could not change the flight path, so the plane kept going on its trajectory, tragically into the south Indian Ocean.
  • This explains why there has been no credit by any terror group. The terrorists never claimed credit because the plot failed and they don't want to reveal their idea and they're embarrassed.
  • This explains why the pilot had no real signs he was going to do this in advance.
I freely admit I don't know all the timeline, but what fails here in this scenario?
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1. Too many ways for the pilot to signal they were hi-jacked.

2. Does not explain why they went up to 45,000 feet.

3. Terrorists often do not claim credit for acts.
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About no. 2: I was actually on a plane that did that kind of hairpin turn. I was on a flight to Paris, basically settled in for a long flight, doze off.... my lady friend nudges me awake, points to the screen that shows the flight path, we've basically done a turnabout that looks like the angle of a hanger, we were in the Atlantic but now we're pointing back to Newfoundland. What occurs to you then? Yep, briefly after thinking that it could be something normal the possibility of a hijack does creep into your head... it was at that moment that the stewardess gets on the intercom and asks if there is a doctor on the plane, turned out an elderly gent had had a heart attack. This was a flight to Paris so of course like 6 guys walk to the back.

I'm guessing this event occurred after the turn west? I'm guessing the flying up to 45,000 feet situation occurred after the flight turned west. At some point the people begin to wonder what's going on, especially once they cross back to the peninsula instead of heading back to KL. I wonder what they were told if anything. Maybe the passengers begin to panic, turn frantic even. But at any rate at that point maybe the hijacker instructs the pilot to take the flight up and down to sicken the crowd or maybe to thin the air so they become sick, knocked off their feet or at least tired. I think this is consistent with the scenario.

About No. 1, I'm thinking the hijacker has a weapon of some kind, basically the pilot and copilot are threatened into compliance by the point of the turn west and are closely watched by the hijacker.

About no. 3, that's true, while the failure to take credit does not prove the hypothesis the fact that terrorists do not always take credit also does not exclude the hypothesis.
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Seriously?

And for like the 501st time, wrong_mx, getting hung up on whether responsibility is claimed or not completely misses the point. If the media are reporting that it's terrorism, it's not necessary to risk the exposure to claim responsibility. But associates would be very likely to now due to the fact that the news is not talking terrorism.
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Ha, yeah, you mean do I overreact much? I think I said briefly and that I considered normal possibilities like mechanical or a health issue, and maybe my friend may have put the idea in my head (and then I said "naaahhhh"), but it's a weird situation to see that hairpin turn on your screen as you're waking up and you're well on your way back west and you haven't heard anything from the Captain. The point is that these passengers at some point, whether they had one of those map screens or not, probably started to absolutely freak out. If it was hijacked maybe they were told, or maybe they were not. Same thing happened with the 9/11/01 flight that crashed in PA, if they weren't told anything, or if they were told a cover story, they would have noticed the turn west and eventually become quite agitated. It may have actually looked like that scene from Airplane but on a much more serious, deathly level. At some point that cabin became absolute horrific mayhem.
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Sadly and unimaginably, you're right about the cabin - right now I consider the most likely cause to be smoke with possibly poisonous fumes as well.

 
It's obvious that CNN hijacked the plane to allow for non-stop coverage, while throwing the authorities off track at the same time. Pure genius.

 
jon_mx said:
So now the authorities are saying what they told us last week was a bunch of crap.
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That's exactly the point I was making a few posts back. Hardly a single word from anyone, official, reporter, so-called expert, has been worth Jack ####.

 
Zigg said:
It's obvious that CNN hijacked the plane to allow for non-stop coverage, while throwing the authorities off track at the same time. Pure genius.
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And they'll still be about 6 hours behind the other news stations with breaking news.

 
Not for nothing but if they turned around in an emergency as speculated now.......Why in the hell are they on a wild goose chase in the southern Indian Ocean.

 
Two Deep said:
Not for nothing but if they turned around in an emergency as speculated now.......Why in the hell are they on a wild goose chase in the southern Indian Ocean.
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They think that the pilots were able to turn the plane around, but then lost consciousness. The plane continued until it ran out of gas.

 
DiStefano said:
KCitons said:
Two Deep said:
Not for nothing but if they turned around in an emergency as speculated now.......Why in the hell are they on a wild goose chase in the southern Indian Ocean.
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They think that the pilots were able to turn the plane around, but then lost consciousness. The plane continued until it ran out of gas.
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Really?
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just trying to help. hard to tell who is asking a serious question any longer.

But yeah, reallly!

 
Some key new pieces of info and speculation in this article.

Still lots of conflicting info and opinions... no surprise there.

A snippet:

CNN aviation analyst Miles O'Brien called the fresh details about the flight a "game changer."

"Now we have no evidence the crew did anything wrong," he said. "And in fact, now, we should be operating with the primary assumption being that something bad happened to that plane shortly after they said good night."

If a crisis on board caused the plane to lose pressure, he said, pilots could have chosen to deliberately fly lower to save passengers onboard.

"You want to get down to 10,000 feet, because that is when you don't have to worry about pressurization. You have enough air in the atmosphere naturally to keep everybody alive," he said. "So part of the procedure for a rapid decompression ... it's called a high dive, and you go as quickly as you can down that to that altitude."
 
I just rewatched Airplane last night... I felt a little guilty because it was hard not to keep thinking of this thread during it. :bag:

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
  • The plane was hijacked by terrorists, 1-2 on board (though not necessarily the fake passport guys). We know the pilots were susceptible to this because they brought the Aussie chicks up front previously; in fact they may have been targeted for just this reason
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Because those 20-something hairy jihadists are so hot?

 
17seconds said:
SaintsInDome2006 said:
  • The plane was hijacked by terrorists, 1-2 on board (though not necessarily the fake passport guys). We know the pilots were susceptible to this because they brought the Aussie chicks up front previously; in fact they may have been targeted for just this reason
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Because those 20-something hairy jihadists are so hot?
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If the captain did a call a female that used a fake ID for the phone, that scenario would make a lot more sense on how they (she) got into the cockpit.

 
higgins said:
FWIW: I had a dream last night that I was aiding in the search on board an American research boat -- I barely remember the dream, and have no new details to share. That is all.
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Remember any floaters? This is critical.

 
Looks like there a news conference on FOX at 10am EST with the prime minister of Malaysia to discuss the debri found by the Aussie's. Could be something???

 
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towney said:
Looks like there a news conference on FOX at 10am EST with the prime minister of Malaysia to discuss the debri found by the Aussie's. Could be something???
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Sounds like they will be able to retrieve pieces in the water over the next few hours.

 
towney said:
Looks like there a news conference on FOX at 10am EST with the prime minister of Malaysia to discuss the debri found by the Aussie's. Could be something???
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They are also bringing in some of the families from Beijing to Australia.

 
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