Missing Malaysian jet news (2 Viewers)

[RUSF18]

Personal travel, I drive if we're talking 5-6 hours or less. If I'm traveling for work, and they're paying for the trip and I'm basically traveling during work hours, I'll fly. Going to be back and forth between NYC and Boston a few times in the coming weeks...happily hopping on Delta Shuttle for the hour flight, with the added benefit of having much less security to deal with at LGA than you would for other airlines.

 

[lod01]

Oye. 5-6 hours in a car is better than a 45 minute flight? That's just crazy talk.

Just put someone on a 55 minute flight. By the time she got there to get through security and all that it was now a 3 hour flight. Then I understand they had to circle DC for a bit. Now we are up to 4 hours. Then she had to wait to get her luggage for a bit. Now we are talking roughly 5 hours later she is walking out of the airport at her destination.

Just flew from Vegas and my friends drove. I left for the airport 40 minutes before they hit the road. 12PMish. I was on my couch watching TV by 3:30PM. They were on the road stuck in horrible traffic and finally got home at 9:45PM.

Lots of variables but I'm with ya. If it's 8 hour drive, I am definitely looking at alternatives.

This was back to L.A. Should only be a 4-5 hour drive. My point being that by saying you only deal with delays flying and not driving is wrong.

That is correct.

 

[NCCommish]

Oye. 5-6 hours in a car is better than a 45 minute flight? That's just crazy talk.

Just put someone on a 55 minute flight. By the time she got there to get through security and all that it was now a 3 hour flight. Then I understand they had to circle DC for a bit. Now we are up to 4 hours. Then she had to wait to get her luggage for a bit. Now we are talking roughly 5 hours later she is walking out of the airport at her destination.

Just flew from Vegas and my friends drove. I left for the airport 40 minutes before they hit the road. 12PMish. I was on my couch watching TV by 3:30PM. They were on the road stuck in horrible traffic and finally got home at 9:45PM.

Lots of variables but I'm with ya. If it's 8 hour drive, I am definitely looking at alternatives.

This was back to L.A. Should only be a 4-5 hour drive. My point being that by saying you only deal with delays flying and not driving is wrong.

Anything can happen but delays are a feature not a bug in modern air travel.

 

[msudaisy26]

We have the same rule of driving if it is less than 16 hours. We started this rule when we flew to Minnesota then drove to Iowa to see my extended family.

45 to the airport in Detroit

1:30 getting there early for the flight

1:45 for the flight

30 minutes to get off the flight and get luggage and get the rented car

3:00 drive to Iowa

3:00 drive back to Minnesota

1:30 early for flight and return rental car

4:00 delayed flight

1:45 flight

30 minutes for getting luggage and getting to car

45 minutes back home.

19 total hours

drive time was 10:30 hours each way figure 11 hours with stopping for gas and food.

We saved 3 hours and paid 700 dollars more the flight then the total cost of gas. Not to mention the comfort factor.

 

[Fat Nick]

Personal travel, I drive if we're talking 5-6 hours or less. If I'm traveling for work, and they're paying for the trip and I'm basically traveling during work hours, I'll fly. Going to be back and forth between NYC and Boston a few times in the coming weeks...happily hopping on Delta Shuttle for the hour flight, with the added benefit of having much less security to deal with at LGA than you would for other airlines.

Seriously man...check Amtrak. I find it SO easy for that trip. It's not always as cheap as flying, but if your company is paying...it's nice to have bigger seats, and tables and such.

 

[Sinn Fein]

We have the same rule of driving if it is less than 16 hours. We started this rule when we flew to Minnesota then drove to Iowa to see my extended family.

45 to the airport in Detroit

1:30 getting there early for the flight

1:45 for the flight

30 minutes to get off the flight and get luggage and get the rented car

3:00 drive to Iowa

3:00 drive back to Minnesota

1:30 early for flight and return rental car

4:00 delayed flight

1:45 flight

30 minutes for getting luggage and getting to car

45 minutes back home.

19 total hours

drive time was 10:30 hours each way figure 11 hours with stopping for gas and food.

We saved 3 hours and paid 700 dollars more the flight then the total cost of gas. Not to mention the comfort factor.

I'm on your side here - but surely there was a closer airport than a 3 hour drive from Minnesota. I mean it can't take more than 3 hours to drive through all of Iowa north to south.

 

[Fat Nick]

Quick...Everybody with an iPhone ask Siri what flights are above them. Maybe MH370 will pop up.

 

[Banger]

Don Lemon on CNN bringing the goods

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV6A4QiAkVw

that guy is a complete idiot and change the channel immediately when he's on. I don't get how he's got a job there.

 

[southeastjerome]

The black box has some sort of locator beacon. Does anyone know the range you have to be in to pick up the signal?

 

[Terpman22]

Holy ####. This thread took a worse wrong turn than the flight.

 

[KCitons]

The black box has some sort of locator beacon. Does anyone know the range you have to be in to pick up the signal?

Everything I have read or heard, it's roughly 2 miles. I've also heard differing reports that the beacon will last for 30 days, but some "experts" say that is a rough estimate. Some beacons have lasted longer.

Also, the crevices of the ocean floor can decrease the effective range of the beacons.

 

[Doug B]

The black box has some sort of locator beacon. Does anyone know the range you have to be in to pick up the signal?

Everything I have read or heard, it's roughly 2 miles. I've also heard differing reports that the beacon will last for 30 days, but some "experts" say that is a rough estimate. Some beacons have lasted longer.

Also, the crevices of the ocean floor can decrease the effective range of the beacons.

I had seen teh 2-mile estimate before, as well. A little more detail posted by Fat Nick at post #3250 concerning submerged recorders:

Flight Data Recorders are designed to withstand and transmit signals at depths up to 20,000 ft. for 30 days, so if they can figure out a rough area, they've got ~18 days...

 

[Tom Servo]

"Expert": MH370 being held for ransom

Rick Mathews, of the National Center for Security & Preparedness at the Rockefeller College of Public Affairs & Policy of SUNY Albany, tells CBSDC that there is another theory that should be put into play: the missing flight is being held for ransom by a group of individuals, maybe including people from the flight crew.

“You want to most likely hide the plane so that it will not be seen and get these people away from there. You want a place to prove life, confirm the fact that they are alive without giving away their location,” Mathews told CBSDC, adding that this was an “internal hijacking” that might have been perpetrated by one or more members of the crew.

Ool.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

CNN saying it might have been a BLACK HOLE. wtf

Even if there were a kind of black hole that attracts only 777 airplanes, and not, say, entire planets, the black hole would have sucked in every 777 in our corner of the galaxy, not just that particular one. I think we should continue to consider alternative theories.

 

[Tom Servo]

Unrelated - Chinese man detained after telling security "I have a bomb in my ###."

 

[TheIronSheik]

CNN saying it might have been a BLACK HOLE. wtf

Even if there were a kind of black hole that attracts only 777 airplanes, and not, say, entire planets, the black hole would have sucked in every 777 in our corner of the galaxy, not just that particular one. I think we should continue to consider alternative theories.

Seems silly when the black hole facts are all right there in front of you.

 

[El Floppo]

Unrelated - Chinese man detained after telling security "I have a bomb in my ###."

who doesn't

 

[southeastjerome]

The black box has some sort of locator beacon. Does anyone know the range you have to be in to pick up the signal?

Everything I have read or heard, it's roughly 2 miles. I've also heard differing reports that the beacon will last for 30 days, but some "experts" say that is a rough estimate. Some beacons have lasted longer.

Also, the crevices of the ocean floor can decrease the effective range of the beacons.

So if the box is 2 miles deep, you pretty much need to be directly above it to pick up the signal? Or do they have some sort of black box locator equipment that is submerged?

 

[KCitons]

The black box has some sort of locator beacon. Does anyone know the range you have to be in to pick up the signal?

Everything I have read or heard, it's roughly 2 miles. I've also heard differing reports that the beacon will last for 30 days, but some "experts" say that is a rough estimate. Some beacons have lasted longer.

Also, the crevices of the ocean floor can decrease the effective range of the beacons.

So if the box is 2 miles deep, you pretty much need to be directly above it to pick up the signal? Or do they have some sort of black box locator equipment that is submerged?

Towed equipment could pick up the signal. But that swath is kind of narrow.

I was thinking submarines would be the best answer. But one of the shows said that they tried using subs for the Air France crash and it didn't work. I don't remember the reason why?

 

[Tom Servo]

Unrelated - Chinese man detained after telling security "I have a bomb in my ###."

who doesn't

I know, amirite?

 

[Fat Nick]

The black box has some sort of locator beacon. Does anyone know the range you have to be in to pick up the signal?

Everything I have read or heard, it's roughly 2 miles. I've also heard differing reports that the beacon will last for 30 days, but some "experts" say that is a rough estimate. Some beacons have lasted longer.

Also, the crevices of the ocean floor can decrease the effective range of the beacons.

So if the box is 2 miles deep, you pretty much need to be directly above it to pick up the signal? Or do they have some sort of black box locator equipment that is submerged?

We may have a sub in that area for all we know. They'd never say that's how they found it, but with all the listening equipment, and the ability to shorten that 20,000 ft distance, that makes the most sense.

 

[msudaisy26]

We have the same rule of driving if it is less than 16 hours. We started this rule when we flew to Minnesota then drove to Iowa to see my extended family.

45 to the airport in Detroit

1:30 getting there early for the flight

1:45 for the flight

30 minutes to get off the flight and get luggage and get the rented car

3:00 drive to Iowa

3:00 drive back to Minnesota

1:30 early for flight and return rental car

4:00 delayed flight

1:45 flight

30 minutes for getting luggage and getting to car

45 minutes back home.

19 total hours

drive time was 10:30 hours each way figure 11 hours with stopping for gas and food.

We saved 3 hours and paid 700 dollars more the flight then the total cost of gas. Not to mention the comfort factor.

I'm on your side here - but surely there was a closer airport than a 3 hour drive from Minnesota. I mean it can't take more than 3 hours to drive through all of Iowa north to south.

No there isn't. They live in the middle of no where in Iowa. It is 3 hours from Minnesota and like 2:55 minutes from the Iowa airport but the cost to the Minnesota airport was worth the 5 minutes of drive time.

 

[culdeus]

 

[RUSF18]

Personal travel, I drive if we're talking 5-6 hours or less. If I'm traveling for work, and they're paying for the trip and I'm basically traveling during work hours, I'll fly. Going to be back and forth between NYC and Boston a few times in the coming weeks...happily hopping on Delta Shuttle for the hour flight, with the added benefit of having much less security to deal with at LGA than you would for other airlines.

Seriously man...check Amtrak. I find it SO easy for that trip. It's not always as cheap as flying, but if your company is paying...it's nice to have bigger seats, and tables and such.

I take Acela to DC all the time and love it, and would never fly there. But the extra hour or so on the train to Boston pushes me to fly.

 

[NajehHejan]

Just checking in to see if the thread has turned yet to "How long is your commute to work? Do you drive or take public transit?"

 

[Brony]

Just checking in to see if the thread has turned yet to "How long is your commute to work? Do you drive or take public transit?"

What's your favorite Asian food type? Mine used to be Thai, but now it's Japanese

 

[Two Deep]

 

[squidrope]

BlackHole

 

[Banger]

BlackHole

by far the best theory to date.

 

[NCCommish]

I can't believe any relatively educated person can even mention a black hole without laughing. I mean just the immense ignorance that suggestion shows is dumbfounding. I understand in here it's shtick but out there in the real world there are people that seem to believe it's a possibility. Scary.

 

[El Floppo]

Sinkhole.

 

[NJ]

Unrelated - Chinese man detained after telling security "I have a bomb in my ###."

Chinese Man: Hurry up bro, I gotta drop bombs!

Security: What did you say?

Chinese Man: <points to his @$$>

 

[Joe T]

Is there any actual news in these 62 pages or is it all speculation and namecalling?

Pretty much.

 

[lod01]

Holy ####. This thread took a worse wrong turn than the flight.

That's a toss up. They are all dead and we are all still alive.

 

[KCitons]

Pilot of the flight simulator on CNN said that autopilot would make a controlled decent if it ran out of gas over the ocean. But, it would not be able to "feather" the landing the way Sully did on the Hudson.

 

[KCitons]

Holy ####. This thread took a worse wrong turn than the flight.

That's a toss up. They are all dead and we are all still alive.

Can you say that with 100% certainty?

 

[lod01]

Holy ####. This thread took a worse wrong turn than the flight.

That's a toss up. They are all dead and we are all still alive.

Can you say that with 100% certainty?

99.9% vs 99.9%

 

[KCitons]

Holy ####. This thread took a worse wrong turn than the flight.

That's a toss up. They are all dead and we are all still alive.

Can you say that with 100% certainty?

99.9% vs 99.9%

We haven't heard from MAC_32 in quite a long time.

 

[Fat Nick]

Pilot of the flight simulator on CNN said that autopilot would make a controlled decent if it ran out of gas over the ocean. But, it would not be able to "feather" the landing the way Sully did on the Hudson.

I have to laugh that they are using a flight simulator for their information. I guess all the "reputable" 777 pilots are out flying real planes.

 

[jon_mx]

Is it possible the co-pilot took it to high altitude to kill the passengers then programmed the rest of the flight to run out of gas and crash into the Ocean and then parachuted out to safety when he was over land at lower altitude?

 

[Fennis]

Is it possible the co-pilot took it to high altitude to kill the passengers then programmed the rest of the flight to run out of gas and crash into the Ocean and then parachuted out to safety when he was over land at lower altitude?

If you replace co-pilot with that #####y flight attendant that was on my last flight, I would think it was highly probable.

 

[Joe T]

what happened with the debris near Australia?

 

[Sinn Fein]

what happened with the debris near Australia?

still there

 

[lod01]

Is it possible the co-pilot took it to high altitude to kill the passengers then programmed the rest of the flight to run out of gas and crash into the Ocean and then parachuted out to safety when he was over land at lower altitude?

What a *******. Probably went thru the cabin stealing everyone's cash and jewelry.

 

[KCitons]

Pilot of the flight simulator on CNN said that autopilot would make a controlled decent if it ran out of gas over the ocean. But, it would not be able to "feather" the landing the way Sully did on the Hudson.

I have to laugh that they are using a flight simulator for their information. I guess all the "reputable" 777 pilots are out flying real planes.

They've had other pilots in studio, but with the flight simulator, they can give a better visual for viewers.

 

[bagger]

clearly this is a diversion for the us to have everyone go south while seal team 6 hones in on the real location north in pakistan.

 

[Spanky267]

I can't believe any relatively educated person can even mention a black hole without laughing. I mean just the immense ignorance that suggestion shows is dumbfounding. I understand in here it's shtick but out there in the real world there are people that seem to believe it's a possibility. Scary.

wormhole?

 

[Sinn Fein]

They should just send another 777 on the same flight path they think this one went on, and see where it runs out of gas. Question solved.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

what happened with the debris near Australia?

Turns out a couple of drunk wallabies dumped their Foster's empties.

 

[jonessed]

I hate how our media turns into a 24/7 conspiracy theory machine during events like this. It's unhealthy.