I wonder if Pakistan has a new underwater base in the southern Indian Ocean? If so, kudos to them.C & C said:My apologies if this was already posted...
I saw an interesting interview on Fox last night; Hannity interviewing a retired Lt. General...
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/2014/03/19/malaysia-airlines-jet-held-terrorists-pakistan
Malaysia Airlines jet held by terrorists in Pakistan?By Sean Hannity
Published March 19, 2014 | FoxNews.com
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This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," March 18, 2014. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
SEAN HANNITY, HOST: This is a Fox News alert. My next guest, Lieutenant General Tom McInerney was among the very first to say that the Malaysian Airliner's jetliner could have been hijacked and it could have landed in Pakistan. Today he's doubling down on that claim, and he's here now to join us and explain what he means by that.
General, good to see you. Thank you for being with us.
RET. LT. GEN. TOM MCINERNEY: Thanks for having me, Sean.
HANNITY: My first question was, because this was a relatively short flight from Malaysia to Beijing, usually they don't fill an airplane, they don't maximize the fuel capability on a shorter flight because it means they don't want to land with all that fuel. For this flight to take place to Pakistan, my first thought, would they have had the fuel capacity, because that seems to be at the maximum level -- distance level of that aircraft?
MCINERNEY: That's a very good question, Sean. As it turns out, we got the last ping seven hours after takeoff. For whatever reason, they apparently had put more fuel into it. It may be there standard practice, so they don't have to buy fuel in Beijing, it may be more expensive, I don't know. But I'm taking the data that says they got a ping -- their last ping was seven hours after.
HANNITY: How long would that flight have been, just to give our audience some coordinates here, from where it took off, if it landed in Pakistan, how long would that be?
MCINERNEY: It's about 3,500 miles, seven hours, 500 miles through, let's say. So -- and they went north for a part -- say 3,000 miles, 3,200 miles, something like that. Of course there now appears to be evidence that there was a direct course through India flying in the shadow of a Singapore Flight 68. That hasn't been verified. The only thing that I have seen that is starting to become verified is the report from Boeing saying they believe the airplane was in Pakistan, which I talked about on Friday.
HANNITY: General, I've known you a long time. I know you too well to know that you're not just making this up, this isn't something you've concocted. You've spoken to a number of people, am I correct?
MCINERNEY: Yes, but that's all I want to say, Sean, please.
HANNITY: Fair enough. And you believe this plane is intact and that this plane landed?
MCINERNEY: I do.
HANNITY: What about the passengers of this plane? Do you know anything about that?
MCINERNEY: I don't know anything about their status. What I do know is the most sensors that we have in the world are in that region. They're not in the south of the Indian Ocean. We have a lot of sensors up there so we have a lot of capabilities. And I believe with Rolls-Royce and with Boeing as well as the U.S. government, we know a lot more than is coming out. I suspect we may in the next 24 to 48 hours start hearing from either the Malaysian government or the Pakistani government. If the Pakistani government doesn't talk soon, they're going to be complicit in this.
HANNITY: For this plane, if it would have landed in Pakistan, the Pakistanis would have had to know that?
MCINERNEY: Yes.
HANNITY: The mystery -- is there anything else -- look, I don't want to press this, because I sense you're threading a needle here. Is there anything else that you can share with our audience besides the fact that you think we'll know a lot more in 24 to 48 hours about this? Do you -- and what do you fear most might happen if in fact what you're saying is true?
MCINERNEY: First of all, let me say, when the U.S. Navy quits their search, their ship search, they must know something in the Indian Ocean. When the Israeli defense forces, when they increase their air defense alert, they must know something. They are questioning people further out. For those people that say, well, even with the transponder off, they've have gotten a ping. Most people don't realize the crew on at 2, 3, 4 in the morning is not the A-Team and they primarily use transponders. So it doesn't surprise me that this could have happened the way I am describing it. So --
HANNITY: So this would explain -- go ahead, I'm sorry, sir.
MCINERNEY: Well, and the airplane would have landed 8 o'clock Kuala Lumpur time, 3 o'clock Pakistani time in the morning -- excuse me, 5 o'clock. There's a three hour difference, so it would have been dark. Anyone who says they saw this overfly the Maldives or whatever, it was dark. I don't see how anybody could say that.
There's been a lot of strange information put out on altitudes and a whole host of things, and a lot of it's come from the Malaysian government, so we've got to be able to sort through this. My concern is, if this airplane could be used as a bearer of a weapon of mass destruction or even conventional munitions that could attack a carrier, the Israelis, other allies, American forces, for instance, we have to be very alert until we know exactly where this airplane is.
HANNITY: That would mean that the -- at this point, you said that the Pakistanis, if they don't speak up soon they would be complicit. I would argue they're complicit now by not sharing their information and intelligence about this with the world. Is that a fair observation?
MCINERNEY: I think that's a fair observation. The way the Boeing report came out, it said the air field was in Taliban controlled areas. Well, I think that's saying in western Pakistan. And there are three primary bases, two are main operating bases and one is a satellite base that could handle this aircraft in the Pakistani air force. There are other falcon bases, but I'll talk about that later.
HANNITY: So your theory, and I'm interpreting here that this is based on information that you are putting together, that would explain away the transponder purposely being turned off and other communications being turned off. That would explain the ping that lasted up to seven hours later, when you consider the timeframe flying out and changing course. It would also explain that the flight path altered by computer command and not by manual control. So what answer -- your theory would answer all those questions, right?
MCINERNEY: It would. And I believe both pilots may have been complicit, I believe that -- remember, they turned off -- they didn't turn off communications, they turned off navigation aids. They didn't turn off their HF radio, their VHF radio, their UHF radio. So they had the sat com. So they had communications that they listening to what was going on and, I think, probably transmitting to the location they were going to. That's why I think the U.S. vacuum cleaners -- those sensors that picked up all this stuff, have probably been able to detect more than we're getting.
HANNITY: OK, so there's a very good possibility that the United States knows much more than it's saying and that we'll probably find out in the days ahead?
MCINERNEY: I think they do, and I think they want to be very cautious because they don't want to embarrass certain other nations that we're working close with, et cetera, and -- but the best leaks have come out of the U.S. government.
HANNITY: All right, general, thank you for being with us, appreciate it.
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I was just thinking he just want to cop a feel of the hot chick in seat 4C. But yeah, he could have robbed the passengers too.
Fat Nick
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The only way you could've known about the hot chick in 4C is if you were on the flight! Case solved!
jon_mx = Fariq Abdul Hamid
Nathan R. Jessep
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TheWalkmen
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This is the first I've heard of this. Interesting. I think the co-pilot killed the pilot in a moment of rage and then decided to just down the plane. Not his best decision.
Tom Skerritt
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Am I to understand that a 777 does not have enough fuel to fly from Koala Lemur to India?
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T Bell
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lod01
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That jon_mx = Fariq Abdul Hamid?
This is the first I've heard of this. Interesting. I think the co-pilot killed the pilot in a moment of rage and then decided to just down the plane. Not his best decision.
Abraham
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avoiding injuries
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I forget which station I heard it on, but they asked a pilot about this. He said it didn't make any sense because the cockpit and cabin are on different pressurized systems and he could manually depressurize the cabin from the cockpit while he remained pressurized. What didn't make sense to me when I heard this was that even if the cabin was depressurized, but they were at an altitude where there was still oxygen, how would this work?jon_mx said:
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OK, things are pretty ####ed up when 2 different people came up with this scenario
avoiding injuries
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That was poor quoting on my part. I was only referring to the altitude portion. I should have bolded it.
OK, things are pretty ####ed up when 2 different people came up with this scenario
It makes as much sense as any.
OK, things are pretty ####ed up when 2 different people came up with this scenario
pollardsvision
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Ah, the Scented Steel Theory.CBusAlex said:
Apple Jack
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It's been dark oats. The pic is four days old. And the Indian ocean is big. like super duper big.
pollardsvision
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How long would big pieces of a plane keep floating? If that pic is really of part of the plane, that means it floated for 9 or 10 days, right?
Seems like a long time, but I have no idea.
Seems like a long time, but I have no idea.
This would actually be a pretty decent way for a few hundred people to get together and fake their own deaths.
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MaxThreshold
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Rohn Jambo
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I don't know why everyone is so negative. There is still hope.
Where'd he get a parachute? Don't think anyone would notice a flight crew member boarding a plane with a chute? Also, ever looked at an airliner? There's really no door you can exit in flight that wouldn't result in you either going right down an engine, or being slammed in to a wing or tail section.jon_mx said:
p.s. Anticipating the follow up question, no, airliners don't have parachutes on board.
T Bell
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T Bell
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What, you mean like bigger than a football field? Bigger than a Costco? Bigger than a Costco parking lot?
T Bell
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Was she sitting next to Flo Tashun?Well, it was a little odd that there was a passenger named "Mae West" on board...
Bob Magaw
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It would be easier to find an object in an area as big as the state of CA than the entire US, since the search has been narrowed, but still difficult and time consuming.
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Smack Tripper
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seeing pictures of this, does this remind anyone else of the walking dead?
KCitons
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Over the past 10 days, I've heard numerous pilots say that in the event of a mechanical or electrical failure, they are trained to get the plane under control before communicating a problem? Is it really that difficult to open the mic in order for ATC to at least listen to what is happening? Why are we even messing with cockpit voice recorders? The ATC conversations are recorded in real time.
Flipping one switch that could open the mic, and send a signal to ATC that the plane is under duress. If the pilots are talking to each other, or alarms are heard in the background, it would be obvious that the plane was having problems.
Seems like the norm just leads to a long recovery mission and years of uncertainty as to what causes a crash.
Flipping one switch that could open the mic, and send a signal to ATC that the plane is under duress. If the pilots are talking to each other, or alarms are heard in the background, it would be obvious that the plane was having problems.
Seems like the norm just leads to a long recovery mission and years of uncertainty as to what causes a crash.
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Glenn Beck. Those on-board nerds from Freescale Semiconductor figured out how to make the plane invisible to radar; then the plane landed somewhere like Pakistan. So now it will be painted to look like a British Airways jet, so they can shoot down a real British Airways jet and have the Malaysian one take its place and fly to D.C.
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