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Morency's value in Greenbay (1 Viewer)
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Chaos Commish
Footballguy
I voted other because all of the above wasn't an option.
i voted other but i really think its a little bit of all three. addidtion by subtracting gado who they were done with. while doing that they get a more talented back up who can help on special teams returning kicks and punts. hoping to catch a little ligtining in the bottle if green would go down and moving forward to the future.IMO even after watching the HOU pre-season games Morency is the more talented of Gado/Lundy/Morencybut who knows maybe we are all just missing the boat on Noah Herron
Sleeper 43
Footballguy
Morency is a capable starting RB in the NFL for sure.
Can we all agree Ahman Green is one of the NFL's top injury risks?
If Ahman goes down this year I dont think GB will draft a RB in the 07 draft because Morency will rip it up (as good as O-Line allows him)
If Ahman stays healthy all season, GB will draft a RB in 07 and Morency will be lost in the depth chart which I find to be a sad situation for someone who has taken advantage of all of his opportunities.
Can we all agree Ahman Green is one of the NFL's top injury risks?
If Ahman goes down this year I dont think GB will draft a RB in the 07 draft because Morency will rip it up (as good as O-Line allows him)
If Ahman stays healthy all season, GB will draft a RB in 07 and Morency will be lost in the depth chart which I find to be a sad situation for someone who has taken advantage of all of his opportunities.
Billy1x
Footballguy
Gado is a straight ahead power back and was having trouble learning the system and reading the defense. Great power back though.
Mourency is fast and has been learning the system but with Dayne they have 3 solid one-cut backs but no one for short yardage / goal line.
Ron Wolf stated a few months back that Green was the only Green Bay back that had the speed and cut capability to fit thenew system. Davenport and Gato were bad fits. He didn't say anything about Herron.
Bottom Line: The Packers needed someone to backup Green, provide a change of pace, and give him a breather.
Both teams met their imediate needs with this trade.
Mourency is fast and has been learning the system but with Dayne they have 3 solid one-cut backs but no one for short yardage / goal line.
Ron Wolf stated a few months back that Green was the only Green Bay back that had the speed and cut capability to fit thenew system. Davenport and Gato were bad fits. He didn't say anything about Herron.
Bottom Line: The Packers needed someone to backup Green, provide a change of pace, and give him a breather.
Both teams met their imediate needs with this trade.
Righetti
Footballguy
I like this analysis.. my only problem with your assessment of Gado having a hard time learning the system can also apply to Morency learning the same offense. If Kubiak was unhappy with him in Houston, will he really be any better running under the same conditions in Green Bay.. I own Morency and have hopes for him but I am obvioulsy a bit unsure about it.
Sake-Bombers
Footballguy
Regarding the kick returning need for the Packers, it seems to me like the Koren Robinson's signing likely help fill that need more than this Morency trade.
coolnerd
Footballguy
I guess that whatever nuances(sp) separate what Kubiak wants versus whatever Green Bay wants matter as to why there is a difference in what they seek. Green Bay's system comes by way of Atlanta where Dunn and his quickness kept Duckett on the bench and eventually traded, while in Denver Portis is the only true speed back that has been given the full job.
Righetti
Footballguy
interesting... I really like Morency's chances in GreenBay but am just not 100% sold on Gado's in Houston... I really liked Samkon last year and the power zone game can only fit him better than the one that depends on quickness and speed.. He is very raw and I sometimes believe that the less they give him to think about, the better off he is.
Oh the Humanity
Footballguy
For what it's worth, Green Bay's head coach last year Sherman (I can't remember his 1st name) is now an assistant coach in Houston. He liked Gado. I think Morency's a slightly better back, so this just may be a value trade from Green Bay's part, but it's possible that Green Bay's GM, Ted Thompson, is hoping to find a miracle to avert the trainwreck that it appears the Pack is headed for. That's certainly what's behind the Koren Robinson signing
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bigmarc27
Footballguy
If he doesn't flub the handoff from Favre and gets in from the 1 at the end of the game, everyone would be ready to annoint him the next big thing. His running and cutting was solid, and he showed good vision. I think he'll get a shot at being the man in GB when Ahman is done.
switz
Footballguy
More than likely HOU will be in a better position to draft APete...Besides, Morency looked VERY GOOD last night...
mr. furley
Footballguy
Morency looked solid last nite. he has good burst, he looked quick, ran with some authority. he's not going to Pro Bowls anytime soon but he sure looked like a guy that could fill in for Green and the offense wouldn't miss a beat.
he looked quicker to hit the hole than Green has this year.. he looked to have some "exciteability" to his legs.
that goal-line stand at the end can more be blamed on the Packer line.. which isn't built for straight ahead mauling. they might have problems with that sorta situation all year long.
he looked quicker to hit the hole than Green has this year.. he looked to have some "exciteability" to his legs.
that goal-line stand at the end can more be blamed on the Packer line.. which isn't built for straight ahead mauling. they might have problems with that sorta situation all year long.
switz
Footballguy
I doubt Green comes back for more that 2-3 games this year. I think he's toast. Morency is the future there. He has some improvements to make, without a doubt. But he looks like a guy who could become a solid NFL RB.
zamboni
Footballguy
I thought Morency looked good last year, and after last night, it's clear that the guy can play (particularly on poor teams).
Still, there's a big difference between a guy that looks like he can start, and the coaching staff's confidence in him being the guy. The jury is still out on the latter.
Still, there's a big difference between a guy that looks like he can start, and the coaching staff's confidence in him being the guy. The jury is still out on the latter.
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packersfan
Footballguy
I was impressed with what I saw from Morency in Week 17 last year with the Texans and I was impressed with what I saw last night. He's quick, runs hard and is shifty enough in the open field. I don't know if he's the RB of the future in Green Bay but he did nothing last night to make me change my opinion that acquiring him was a very good move by Thompson (one of the few good moves I think he's made so far as the GM).
Restricted
Footballguy
jurb26
Footballguy
Hammy
Fixed
Not in this case, though. Gado is a thinker, and this offense needs someone who reacts, not thinks. Gado is definately a system RB, like the one he was in last year. He just didnt fit into this offense GB has now. Morency looked good, and his two turnovers (the pick was his fault) were due to rawness more than anything.
packersfan
Footballguy
I disagree about the INT. No reason for Favre to throw the heater when Morency was only a few yards away from him. It could've been caught but Favre put way too much zip on that pass unnecessarily in my opinion.
mr. furley
Footballguy
so they can trot out Morency, Herron and............... nobody??? they won't have a FB next year after they waive Henderson. i don't think it'd be prudent to have 2 rb's on the roster.if the past couple years have taught the organization anything it's that you can never have too many rb's on the roster. look at last year... they lost Green, Davenport, Fisher, Walter Williams, Henderson for a time and even Gado got hurt at the end of the year.call me crazy but i think they'll pick one up for sure. maybe one via draft and a FA depending on Green's health the remainder of the season.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
As a Morency owner (and not a Green owner), I hope you're right.That said....switz said:
doughboydeluxe
Footballguy
I thought they were grooming Miree to be the new fullback? If Ahman is not around next year they will still draft a RB. The round they choose one, though, will be directly correlated with how they feel about Morency.
mr. furley
Footballguy
i dunno about grooming Miree. they had started Leach, then Henderson, then Martin and now this Miree guy. pretty sure they're just hoping that one of them can block in the new scheme.
taz
Footballguy
Interesting ...Any word out of GB today about whether Green will be back next week?
Righetti
Footballguy
October 4, 2006, 10:39
Packers :: RB
HC McCarthy Pleased With RB Morency
Dylan B. Tomlinson, Packers News - [Full Article]
Green Bay Packers RB Vernand Morency only was able to manage 1 yard on four carries at the end of Monday night's game vs. the Eagles, but Packers HC Mike McCarthy was pleased with the overall performance. "He had an opportunity to have a 100-yard-plus game, and he was close," McCarthy said. "For his first time out of the gate handling the load, he touched the ball 30-plus times, I thought he did a nice job." McCarthy said the only negative regarding Morency was his fumble, which was officially charged to QB Brett Favre. "He got a little excited and reached for the football," McCarthy said.
Packers :: RB
HC McCarthy Pleased With RB Morency
Dylan B. Tomlinson, Packers News - [Full Article]
Green Bay Packers RB Vernand Morency only was able to manage 1 yard on four carries at the end of Monday night's game vs. the Eagles, but Packers HC Mike McCarthy was pleased with the overall performance. "He had an opportunity to have a 100-yard-plus game, and he was close," McCarthy said. "For his first time out of the gate handling the load, he touched the ball 30-plus times, I thought he did a nice job." McCarthy said the only negative regarding Morency was his fumble, which was officially charged to QB Brett Favre. "He got a little excited and reached for the football," McCarthy said.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
Fumble Nearly Cost Morency --
Wed Oct 4, 2006 --from FFMastermind.com
The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports Packers RB Vernand Morency's fumble deep in Packers' territory might have gotten him benched had he not injected some life into the running game. Morency coughed up the ball at the Packers' 6 on a handoff in the second quarter. The fumble was officially charged to QB Brett Favre but Morency was at fault. He saw an opening and reacted to it before securing the ball. "He got a little excited and reached for the football," McCarthy said. Asked about his overall performance, which consisted of 99 yards rushing in 26 carries and six receptions for 19 yards (one drop), McCarthy said: "I thought he did good job, took advantage of his opportunity. He made good reads in the run game, in his decisions. The only negative was the fumble. "He had an opportunity to have a 100-yard plus game and he was close. For his first time out of the gate handling the load — he touched the ball 30-plus times — I thought he did a nice job."
Wed Oct 4, 2006 --from FFMastermind.com
The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports Packers RB Vernand Morency's fumble deep in Packers' territory might have gotten him benched had he not injected some life into the running game. Morency coughed up the ball at the Packers' 6 on a handoff in the second quarter. The fumble was officially charged to QB Brett Favre but Morency was at fault. He saw an opening and reacted to it before securing the ball. "He got a little excited and reached for the football," McCarthy said. Asked about his overall performance, which consisted of 99 yards rushing in 26 carries and six receptions for 19 yards (one drop), McCarthy said: "I thought he did good job, took advantage of his opportunity. He made good reads in the run game, in his decisions. The only negative was the fumble. "He had an opportunity to have a 100-yard plus game and he was close. For his first time out of the gate handling the load — he touched the ball 30-plus times — I thought he did a nice job."
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
McCarthy did not have an update on injured running back Ahman Green's status this week. Green has two tender hamstrings.
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