The Ref
Footballguy
I cant say for sure, but a lot of quotes have a delay of 20 minutes. Some sites have real time quotes - Yahoo for example.
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My Stock Value Strategy Starts Now (2 Viewers)
- Thread starter David Dodds
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Can I use this to buy/sell by td-ameritrade's rates based on what is really going on? LoL
Norman Einstein
Footballguy
i'm using tdameritrade and they are realtime (Command Center)
I don't know what command center is but I'm certainly not getting real time.
Norman Einstein
Footballguy
it should be listed under Trading Tools>Streaming Tools
David Dodds
Administrator
added 5,000 HEB at 2.32....this is getting very painful here. AARGH
Battles
Footballguy
Trading Tools > Streaming Tools > Command Center.You need Java.And yes, whatever you trade will all be done in real time, even when you're looking at delayed quotes. You should always look at a real time quote before buying or selling. Level II quotes help as well.
NYG Endzone
Footballguy
AMEX is delayed on Google. Use smartmoney or nasdaq for HEB.Scottrade is real time, use the "Scottrader" streaming quotes app for better results.
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This is LJ
Footballguy
Thank god I never got into HEB yesterday. Luckily, I had a 3.31 limit that never got filled yesterday AH. I'll definately take another look when the dust settles.
CBIS (Cannabis Science) is up 300+% over the last two days, man.
CBIS (Cannabis Science) is up 300+% over the last two days, man.
Team Tosh
Footballguy
Thanks for the tip. Command Center is awesome. I've been trading on delayed quotes for the past 8 months.
siffoin
Footballguy
Does anyone here trade the Futs via eminis? If so I'd be willing to post my trades...or do it on a twitter account.
Futs are a high risk high reward game...where every pt on the SP500 = $50 per contract traded. So if the SP500 moves 10pts...that's $500 per contract.(assuming you are on the correct side of the trade). It's how I make my primary living.
In the low vol summer trading I've been trading all 3 markets.
So today here is how the trades look.
1st: ES (SP500 Contract where 1 pt = $50) - Long at 7:35 (mtn time) 947.50 exit @ 8:12 @ 952. 1 Contract. Profit= $225
2nd: YM (DOW Futures where 1pt= $5.00) - Long at 7:37 (mtn time) @ 8857 exit at 7:58 @ 8885. 1 Contract. Profit= $140.
3rd: NQ (Nasdaq Futs where 1pt = $20) - Long at 7:41 @ 1557 exit @ 8:13 @ 1560.25. 1 Contract. Profit= $65.
4th: YM Short @ 8:14 @ 8879. Exit at 8:53 @ 9972. 1 Contract. Profit= $35
5th: ES Short @ 8:24 @ 951.75. Exit @ 8:51 @ 951. 1 Contract. Profit= $37.50
And right now I'm flat but it is looking like I'll be taking long positions in YM, ES and possibly NQ.
It might be confusing...especially since it appears everyone just trades stocks. Mine are more...what are the major indexes doing right now...bullish or bearish?...and that viewpoint can change pretty quickly with the normal ups and downs of the daily trading range.
As I type this post, I don't want to mess with Dodds thread...so if there is interest...I'll twitter it at "Steelhedge".
And now I'm long YM, ES and NQ.
Futs are a high risk high reward game...where every pt on the SP500 = $50 per contract traded. So if the SP500 moves 10pts...that's $500 per contract.(assuming you are on the correct side of the trade). It's how I make my primary living.
In the low vol summer trading I've been trading all 3 markets.
So today here is how the trades look.
1st: ES (SP500 Contract where 1 pt = $50) - Long at 7:35 (mtn time) 947.50 exit @ 8:12 @ 952. 1 Contract. Profit= $225
2nd: YM (DOW Futures where 1pt= $5.00) - Long at 7:37 (mtn time) @ 8857 exit at 7:58 @ 8885. 1 Contract. Profit= $140.
3rd: NQ (Nasdaq Futs where 1pt = $20) - Long at 7:41 @ 1557 exit @ 8:13 @ 1560.25. 1 Contract. Profit= $65.
4th: YM Short @ 8:14 @ 8879. Exit at 8:53 @ 9972. 1 Contract. Profit= $35
5th: ES Short @ 8:24 @ 951.75. Exit @ 8:51 @ 951. 1 Contract. Profit= $37.50
And right now I'm flat but it is looking like I'll be taking long positions in YM, ES and possibly NQ.
It might be confusing...especially since it appears everyone just trades stocks. Mine are more...what are the major indexes doing right now...bullish or bearish?...and that viewpoint can change pretty quickly with the normal ups and downs of the daily trading range.
As I type this post, I don't want to mess with Dodds thread...so if there is interest...I'll twitter it at "Steelhedge".
And now I'm long YM, ES and NQ.
Thanks for posting this, I'm sure a lot of the posters here have interest
bmetz
Footballguy
/me follows
David Dodds
Administrator
sold CENX at 6.25
David Dodds
Administrator
Bit the bullet here and sold 5,000 shares of HEB at 2.45. My cost average of my 15,000 shares got to 2.71. I am just not hopeful it's getting back to that. What a disaster of a conference call. Holding 10,000 at 2.71. I will cost average down if it gets below 2.30
Some of the best advice this thread has seen. Those things are lotto tickets, period.Boulder Toads
Footballguy
Anyone tempted to add PRGN with today's current ~5% 'dip' ?
Lighter volume, no real news to drive it down, may just be taking a 'breather' before continuing the trend ... thoughts?
Or would SBLK, which has been lagging PRGN the last few days, be a better target?
Lighter volume, no real news to drive it down, may just be taking a 'breather' before continuing the trend ... thoughts?
Or would SBLK, which has been lagging PRGN the last few days, be a better target?
skycriesmary
Climbing up the Walls
I was, as my last 1381 shares tripped on a stop loss a few days ago at 4.38, so I decided to get back in with 1200 shares at 4.34.Seems like a reasonable bet *jinx*.
The Ref
Footballguy
Long - you expect the market to rally?
siffoin
Footballguy
These are VERY short term trades. I honestly try not to bias myself either way, because if I do...it can get pretty easy to talk yourself out of a trade. If you ask me for a longer period time frame like 1 month...I get more bearish if that is what you are asking.In this set of trades here is how it has unfolded.I went long YM (DOW) at 8880...and got stopped out at 8874..a loss of 6pts or -$30.I went long ES (SP500) at 951.50..and got stopped out at 951.25..a loss of .25 pts or -$12.50I went long NQ at 1558.50. I remain in that trade (currently trading at 1563.75)...My current stop is around 1561.25 (though that number changes through time....but worst case scenario on this trade I should make a minimum of 3pts or $60+...perhaps it will be more. )edit so I just got stopped out at 1561...profit of 2.5 pts...or $50.And am flat all three indexes.
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Do you have free trades? How do you take $10 loses? My loss would double with the trading fee.
siffoin
Footballguy
Round-trip per contract (so entry fee and exit) cost about $5.00. So in this kind of trading you wind up catching a lot of small fish...but eventually you'll land a monster...like yesterday..went long NQ @ around 11:30 NQ @ 1535...and it ran up to 1550...so a profit of 16pts on that trade or $300. Losses are small in general...about $50-$100 per trade.This is NOT easy trading...nor for the feint of heart. One slip and you'll get kicked in the gut like you've never felt. It is also a zero sum game...you pitted against another trader...most likely a highly skilled professional...are you better than him?And boom...just like that went long.
Cromedog
Footballguy
I'm thinking of getting back into some more PRGN. I sold off 2/3 of my position over the past two days. Bought 1000 of SBLK yesterday and thinking of gettting 1000 more PRGN...just waiting to see if it will dip anymore...I don't think it is going to run up today.
David Dodds
Administrator
have a sell at 2.20 going on with FREE. Not sure how successful that will be yet. Added 5,000 shares of HEB at 2.35. Now have 15,000 shares at 2.59
dotman
Footballguy
On Monday I sold all of my 1200 PRGN shares at 4.40 (bought at 3.80) and bought 1650 SBLK shares at 3.48. Got back in PRGN today with 600 shares at 4.35. Sitting on both for now.Also holding 14 shares of AAPL bought at $140 not too long ago
David Dodds
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Borderline insane here I think. I added 10,000 shares at 2.37. Now sitting on 25,000 shares at 2.50.
My thoughts:
The big Yahoo bashers have not posted at all today. I suspect the hedge fund thought he could dump at a big gain AFTER the conference. With these guys on the sidelines and not bashing, I suspect this hedge fund will start releasing news that will allow them to exit profitably. I don't think we will see that Adam article now, etc.
My thoughts:
The big Yahoo bashers have not posted at all today. I suspect the hedge fund thought he could dump at a big gain AFTER the conference. With these guys on the sidelines and not bashing, I suspect this hedge fund will start releasing news that will allow them to exit profitably. I don't think we will see that Adam article now, etc.
David Dodds
Administrator
sold 10,000 HEB at 2.41 for another loss, but like getting a tad less exposed here. Holding 15,000 at 2.50 now.
Random
Footballguy
David Dodds
Administrator
out of SBLK at 3.52 for no profit. I think it's a bargain, but I am getting real fearful of the highs in this market. Also Capes got crushed a bit in the BDI today
This is LJ
Footballguy
Here's that 956 S&P pivot I was talking about. If we close above it with some strength, that could be extremely bullish going forward.
Mose
Footballguy
Also you need to free up some more cash to BUY MORE HEB!!
This is LJ
Footballguy
Norman Einstein
Footballguy
so heb's voting to increase the number of authorized shares of common stock from 200million to 350million?
Re: the FREE share dilution
Honestly, I think this announcement was already priced into the stock price yesterday when we were able to pickup at distressed prices. I think that share dilution is going to become increasingly common going forward, and so long as the fundamentals are strong, I'm not too worried. In the past, companies were able to acquire financing/lines of credit much easier as banks were freer with their loans. A lot of the debt financing was much harder to research and get a handle of when looking into a company, wheras issuing more shares is right out there and quickly reflected in metrics used to compare stocks. Articles have been written recently about the new stock share inflation and it's not necessarily a bad sign.
Honestly, I think this announcement was already priced into the stock price yesterday when we were able to pickup at distressed prices. I think that share dilution is going to become increasingly common going forward, and so long as the fundamentals are strong, I'm not too worried. In the past, companies were able to acquire financing/lines of credit much easier as banks were freer with their loans. A lot of the debt financing was much harder to research and get a handle of when looking into a company, wheras issuing more shares is right out there and quickly reflected in metrics used to compare stocks. Articles have been written recently about the new stock share inflation and it's not necessarily a bad sign.
David Dodds
Administrator
Except that every time this stock tries to go north they will sell more shares. The $15M to $18M worth of shares still need to be sold to investors. That's 7.0M shares on a stock that barely has 500K in volume a day. I say no thanks, but am hoping I can get out without losing a fortune.
David Dodds
Administrator
I am GREEN in HEB...lol. I should not have panicked and sold those 10K shares. Holding 15K at 2.50 and loving things. I may dump soon though.
Why would BDI matter? Aren't they 98% booked for the year with most of next year under contract too?
bmetz
Footballguy
balls of steel
Cromedog
Footballguy
LOL...me too!
This is LJ
Footballguy
Hey Ref, I wouldn't sell here. Since the 13th, we've had higher lows everyday, including higher highs for the past 3 trading sessions. The trend hasn't reversed yet, so there's no reason to pull out here. Neither the S&P or DOW are overbought at this point, according to RSI indicators. Just the nasdaq. No resistance in the S&P until 1007. Chart looks awesome. Just wait till a reversal happens, then you'd have a reason. There could easily be a second wind to this rally on the upside. On the downside, all corrections happen with a reversal of the trend first then a move down. You still have time.
David Dodds
Administrator
I added 10,000 HEB at 2.45...I still think it makes a run at the end of the day. 25K shares at $2.48.....LOL. Now where's that time machine so I can go back and sell yesterday.
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The Ref
Footballguy
The USD index is falling to 78.70 and taking the market back over 956 with it.... Quesiton is, how long do you stick with being long? There is a lot of great news right now and this thing cant get over 956 S&P. If the market can't break this now the market has to move back down and test the low at some point doesn't it?
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
isnt that what the wise and mighty beeej has been saying? everyday.
