*NBA THREAD* Abe will be missed (7 Viewers)

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Do baseball players get extra HoF consideration for excelling at Triple-A?

 

[Gr00vus]

Yannis Koutroupis: Larry Bird: Danny Ainge knows what he's doing. The only time I don't trust him is with the ball in his hands with three seconds left. Twitter @YannisHW

 

[Abraham]

Do baseball players get extra HoF consideration for excelling at Triple-A?

International Basketball is like minor league baseball?

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Yannis Koutroupis: Larry Bird: Danny Ainge knows what he's doing. The only time I don't trust him is with the ball in his hands with three seconds left. Twitter @YannisHW

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Man, I love SHEED.

http://t.co/IsviuEQTYk

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Do baseball players get extra HoF consideration for excelling at Triple-A?

International Basketball is like minor league baseball?

Do you think it's equal to the NBA?

 

[Kev4029]

Do baseball players get extra HoF consideration for excelling at Triple-A?

International Basketball is like minor league baseball?

Do you think it's equal to the NBA?

Its not the NBA hall of fame, I think that is where your hang up is.

 

[Abraham]

Do baseball players get extra HoF consideration for excelling at Triple-A?

International Basketball is like minor league baseball?

Do you think it's equal to the NBA?

I didn't say that. I certainly think that FIBA and the Olympics are worthwhile in considering a player's resume. It's not like Manu is getting in because he won MVP of the Euroleague once or twice. He led the Argentinians to the only non_USA Olympic gold in the last six games.

 

[Mile High]

Do baseball players get extra HoF consideration for excelling at Triple-A?

International Basketball is like minor league baseball?

Do you think it's equal to the NBA?

Its not the NBA hall of fame, I think that is where your hang up is.

 

[pollardsvision]

Man, I love SHEED.

http://t.co/IsviuEQTYk

I feel like I remember a handful of ex-teammates and coaches over the years saying what a great coach he'd make one day.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Man, I love SHEED.

http://t.co/IsviuEQTYk

I feel like I remember a handful of ex-teammates and coaches over the years saying what a great coach he'd make one day.

Cause all the players would be scared ####less of him.

Sheed as head coach. KG as assistant. :championship:

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Man, I love SHEED.

http://t.co/IsviuEQTYk

I feel like I remember a handful of ex-teammates and coaches over the years saying what a great coach he'd make one day.

Apparently he has a great mind for basketball. I would love if this happened.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Man, I love SHEED.

http://t.co/IsviuEQTYk

I feel like I remember a handful of ex-teammates and coaches over the years saying what a great coach he'd make one day.

Cause all the players would be scared ####less of him.

Sheed as head coach. KG as assistant. :championship:

Anything is possible.

 

[Mario Kart]

If Manu and Pau get into the Hall of Fame, it truly is the Hall of Medicroity.

Both guys have multiple NBA rings and have excelled in international play.

I know its funny. Can you imagine them in the NBA Hall of Fame? I can't.

Manu = 3 rings, 2 all-stars in 11 seasons. And, he was a "starter" in four of those eleven.

Pau = 2 rings, 4 all-stars in 13 seasons. Averaging double/double in three of those thirteen.

Yeah, it would be funny if those stats allow for an NBA Hall of Fame induction.

 

[Man of Zen]

Did I miss chitter-chat about Kaman to the Lakers? Sorry if I'm late to the party.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9460382/chris-kaman-los-angeles-lakers-agree-one-year-deal-sources-say

 

[Juxtatarot]

Did I miss chitter-chat about Kaman to the Lakers? Sorry if I'm late to the party.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9460382/chris-kaman-los-angeles-lakers-agree-one-year-deal-sources-say

Not much to say. Has-been player goes to a has-been team.

 

[Man of Zen]

I don't completely disagree, but it is a new starting center for one of the marquee franchises in the league. Worth a mention, I thought.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

The Decision was way better than the dwightmare and made sure the bs reports for clicks and advertising didn't happen. All that espn and twitter marketing went to boys and girls club instead of abc.

 

[tommyGunZ]

I don't completely disagree, but it is a new starting center for one of the marquee franchises in the league. Worth a mention, I thought.

Kamen will not start for the Lakers.

 

[Premier]

If Manu and Pau get into the Hall of Fame, it truly is the Hall of Medicroity.

Both guys have multiple NBA rings and have excelled in international play.

I know its funny. Can you imagine them in the NBA Hall of Fame? I can't.Manu = 3 rings, 2 all-stars in 11 seasons. And, he was a "starter" in four of those eleven.

Pau = 2 rings, 4 all-stars in 13 seasons. Averaging double/double in three of those thirteen.

Yeah, it would be funny if those stats allow for an NBA Hall of Fame induction.

You seem to still be struggling on a very important point here.

 

[Man of Zen]

I don't completely disagree, but it is a new starting center for one of the marquee franchises in the league. Worth a mention, I thought.

Kamen will not start for the Lakers.

Guess I was going by what the blurb said. Not all that familiar with the post-Dwight era Lakers' C situation, I guess. Who keeps him on the pine?

 

[tommyGunZ]

I don't completely disagree, but it is a new starting center for one of the marquee franchises in the league. Worth a mention, I thought.

Kamen will not start for the Lakers.

Guess I was going by what the blurb said. Not all that familiar with the post-Dwight era Lakers' C situation, I guess. Who keeps him on the pine?

Pau Gasol will start at the 5.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Let's look at another pair of old, high-volume perimeter scorers that paired up.

29 YO SF that had never won a damn thing. Def. had a bit of rep as a me-first chucker. 18-20 shots/game most of career. Under 45% for 6 of his first 9 seasons.

31 YO SG that was accustomed to 20 or so shots/game every year. 4 of the previous 5 seasons (toiling away on a terrible team) were under 45%. A once great 3P shooter (and all time great) had been under 40% each of the previous 5 seasons.

Pierce and Allen teamed up, both went happily went down below 15 shots/game and saw their %s go way up.

Not the same players or the same situation, but when you see elite high volume shooters teams up the dynamic changes.

Not even close. Melo and Kobe are perhaps the two biggest chuckers the league has ever seen. They'd probably come to blows during timeouts arguing over who gets to take the contested jumper while being triple teamed to end the game.

The only recent possible comparison would have been pairing Iverson up with someone... but we know well he took to a 6th man role so it isn't hard to guess how he would have done with a co-star.

I'd absolutely love to see Melo in a Laker uni. The idea that any team wouldn't want to add a Team USA starter is just stupid talk.

 

[Abraham]

Oh they would add him in a moment.

 

[Mario Kart]

If Manu and Pau get into the Hall of Fame, it truly is the Hall of Medicroity.

Both guys have multiple NBA rings and have excelled in international play.

I know its funny. Can you imagine them in the NBA Hall of Fame? I can't.Manu = 3 rings, 2 all-stars in 11 seasons. And, he was a "starter" in four of those eleven.

Pau = 2 rings, 4 all-stars in 13 seasons. Averaging double/double in three of those thirteen.

Yeah, it would be funny if those stats allow for an NBA Hall of Fame induction.

You seem to still be struggling on a very important point here.

No, I get it. The NBA is arguably the top players in the world and the two in question have performed in a non-All-Star fashion. The merits of their NBA careers do not favor an All-Star selection.

 

[Abraham]

 

[Short Corner]

wow

 

[Premier]

If Manu and Pau get into the Hall of Fame, it truly is the Hall of Medicroity.

Both guys have multiple NBA rings and have excelled in international play.

I know its funny. Can you imagine them in the NBA Hall of Fame? I can't.Manu = 3 rings, 2 all-stars in 11 seasons. And, he was a "starter" in four of those eleven.

Pau = 2 rings, 4 all-stars in 13 seasons. Averaging double/double in three of those thirteen.

Yeah, it would be funny if those stats allow for an NBA Hall of Fame induction.

You seem to still be struggling on a very important point here.

No, I get it. The NBA is arguably the top players in the world and the two in question have performed in a non-All-Star fashion. The merits of their NBA careers do not favor an All-Star selection.

Yes. You got it.

 

[the moops]

Mario trekking into drummer territory here.

 

[Abraham]

Speights to the warriors probably.

 

[Juxtatarot]

I wonder how Mario Kart feels about Cheryl Miller being in the Hall of Fame.

 

[Abraham]

I wonder how Mario Kart feels about Cheryl Miller being in the Hall of Fame.

wNba is kind of like A ball, right?

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I think you guys talking down at us are actually missing the point. We get that it's not the NBA HoF. We're saying that makes it less elite and special. The fact that those two are virtual locks to get in indicates how diluted it is.

 

[Abraham]

I think you guys talking down at us are actually missing the point. We get that it's not the NBA HoF. We're saying that makes it less elite and special. The fact that those two are virtual locks to get in indicates how diluted it is.

Have you looked at the list of who is in? There are some good players that aren't.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I think you guys talking down at us are actually missing the point. We get that it's not the NBA HoF. We're saying that makes it less elite and special. The fact that those two are virtual locks to get in indicates how diluted it is.

Have you looked at the list of who is in? There are some good players that aren't.

Probably better players than Manu and Pau.

 

[Premier]

I think you guys talking down at us are actually missing the point. We get that it's not the NBA HoF. We're saying that makes it less elite and special. The fact that those two are virtual locks to get in indicates how diluted it is.

To be fair, I'm really just talking down to Mario kart.

 

[Abraham]

I think you guys talking down at us are actually missing the point. We get that it's not the NBA HoF. We're saying that makes it less elite and special. The fact that those two are virtual locks to get in indicates how diluted it is.

Have you looked at the list of who is in? There are some good players that aren't.

Probably better players than Manu and Pau.

Nobody with two rings and Olympic hardware.

 

[matuski]

Do baseball players get extra HoF consideration for excelling at Triple-A?

My Link

 

[Mentos]

I wonder how Mario Kart feels about Cheryl Miller being in the Hall of Fame.

There are women players from Eastern European countries in the basketball hall of fame. One should not take that hall of fame seriously at all.

I like that there is no NBA hall of fame. Saves us from some inane arguments. We get enough of those with the baseball and football halls of fame.

 

[Gr00vus]

Let's look at another pair of old, high-volume perimeter scorers that paired up.

29 YO SF that had never won a damn thing. Def. had a bit of rep as a me-first chucker. 18-20 shots/game most of career. Under 45% for 6 of his first 9 seasons.

31 YO SG that was accustomed to 20 or so shots/game every year. 4 of the previous 5 seasons (toiling away on a terrible team) were under 45%. A once great 3P shooter (and all time great) had been under 40% each of the previous 5 seasons.

Pierce and Allen teamed up, both went happily went down below 15 shots/game and saw their %s go way up.

Not the same players or the same situation, but when you see elite high volume shooters teams up the dynamic changes.

Not even close. Melo and Kobe are perhaps the two biggest chuckers the league has ever seen. They'd probably come to blows during timeouts arguing over who gets to take the contested jumper while being triple teamed to end the game.

The only recent possible comparison would have been pairing Iverson up with someone... but we know well he took to a 6th man role so it isn't hard to guess how he would have done with a co-star.

I'd absolutely love to see Melo in a Laker uni. The idea that any team wouldn't want to add a Team USA starter is just stupid talk.

It might make for some entertaining basketball if you like that kind of offense, and they'd probably win a few playoff series over the course of their time together, but I don't think a Kobe/Melo Laker squad would be a championship contender. Too much money tied up in one dimensional guys at that point. So I don't think I'd love it, though I might enjoy watching it, as it'd mean further deferral of building towards another championship.

 

[No. 16]

Gotta love the new Dubs management. I know I keep harping about it, but after suffering through the Cohan years the Lacob Era is off to a great start.

Today they managed to get DEN to agree to a 3 way sign and trade with Utah for Iggy. This is HUGE because it let's the Warriors stay at the cap limit where they get to use the: MLE, rookie exception, and since dump Biedrins/RJ to an under the cap team they get $23 million dollars worth of trade exceptions!

If they couldn't coax DEN to agree to a SnT the Dubs would have lost out on all of those goodies. So props to them for making moves.

Then it is reported that the Dubs have signed Marreese Speights. 3 years, 3rd year team option. Not sure how much it's for but I have faith it's at a reasonable salary considering what they did with Landry last year.

It's a great time to be a Dubs fan!!!

 

[Gr00vus]

Metta World Peace Ron Artest getting amnestied by the Lakers. Wonder where he'll end up and how much gas he has left in the tank. Maybe he'll go home to one of the NY teams? Or can he not do that because they're over the cap, or can he even though they are over the cap if no one else picks him up?

 

[Mile High]

Gotta love the new Dubs management. I know I keep harping about it, but after suffering through the Cohan years the Lacob Era is off to a great start.

Today they managed to get DEN to agree to a 3 way sign and trade with Utah for Iggy. This is HUGE because it let's the Warriors stay at the cap limit where they get to use the: MLE, rookie exception, and since dump Biedrins/RJ to an under the cap team they get $23 million dollars worth of trade exceptions!

If they couldn't coax DEN to agree to a SnT the Dubs would have lost out on all of those goodies. So props to them for making moves.

Then it is reported that the Dubs have signed Marreese Speights. 3 years, 3rd year team option. Not sure how much it's for but I have faith it's at a reasonable salary considering what they did with Landry last year.

It's a great time to be a Dubs fan!!!

Don't think they had to coax to hard since it's beneficial to the Nuggets to.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Yeah, have fun with Speights.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Let's look at another pair of old, high-volume perimeter scorers that paired up.

29 YO SF that had never won a damn thing. Def. had a bit of rep as a me-first chucker. 18-20 shots/game most of career. Under 45% for 6 of his first 9 seasons.

31 YO SG that was accustomed to 20 or so shots/game every year. 4 of the previous 5 seasons (toiling away on a terrible team) were under 45%. A once great 3P shooter (and all time great) had been under 40% each of the previous 5 seasons.

Pierce and Allen teamed up, both went happily went down below 15 shots/game and saw their %s go way up.

Not the same players or the same situation, but when you see elite high volume shooters teams up the dynamic changes.

Not even close. Melo and Kobe are perhaps the two biggest chuckers the league has ever seen. They'd probably come to blows during timeouts arguing over who gets to take the contested jumper while being triple teamed to end the game.

The only recent possible comparison would have been pairing Iverson up with someone... but we know well he took to a 6th man role so it isn't hard to guess how he would have done with a co-star.

I'd absolutely love to see Melo in a Laker uni. The idea that any team wouldn't want to add a Team USA starter is just stupid talk.

Every was banging down Marbury's door. Must have guy since he was a Team USA starter.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I think you guys talking down at us are actually missing the point. We get that it's not the NBA HoF. We're saying that makes it less elite and special. The fact that those two are virtual locks to get in indicates how diluted it is.

You and psycho have opinions that indicate you don't know what the #### you're talking about.

 

[Mario Kart]

I think you guys talking down at us are actually missing the point. We get that it's not the NBA HoF. We're saying that makes it less elite and special. The fact that those two are virtual locks to get in indicates how diluted it is.

You and psycho have opinions that indicate you don't know what the #### you're talking about.

Or, perhaps, our standards of what makes someone an All-Star are more in line with the actual use of the term "All-Star." Perhaps we like the word to have meaning. Kind of like when everyone gets a ribbon for playing. Pretty soon everyone is going to be an All-Star.

 

[Abraham]

Call me old fashioned, but if a guy makes the all star team he is an all star.

 

[Mario Kart]

Call me old fashioned, but if a guy makes the all star team he is an all star.

Great, doesn't mean he is Hall of Fame worthy.

 

[the moops]

Call me old fashioned, but if a guy makes the all star team he is an all star.

Great, doesn't mean he is Hall of Fame worthy.

Correct