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*NBA THREAD* Abe will be missed (9 Viewers)

Wrote ESPN legal analyst Lester Munson: When Silver issues his punishment to Sterling, the decision is final. The constitution provides in Paragraph 24(m) that a commissioners decision shall be as final as an award of arbitration. It is almost impossible to find a judge in the United States judicial system who would set aside an award of arbitration. Sterling can file a lawsuit but he would face a humiliating defeat early in the process.

 
The nba sure taught him a lesson. You get a billion dollars for the sale of your team and some nice departing gifts.
He has to sell an appreciating asset which is now going to be a lot more valuable than someone else than it will be to him. Relatively speaking, that's a punishment.
He's 80.

You mean the next 7 generations of his family could be set financially instead of just 5?

 
The nba sure taught him a lesson. You get a billion dollars for the sale of your team and some nice departing gifts.
He has to sell an appreciating asset which is now going to be a lot more valuable than someone else than it will be to him. Relatively speaking, that's a punishment.
Yeah. If Sterling would rather have the billion dollars than own the Clippers, he could have just sold them a month ago.

 
Yeah, I think this'll be the end of it (aside from Sterling's lawsuit over the ban).

They'll try to convince him to sell and he won't.

But this is huge. Owning a team is about the ego stroke. They've taken all that away from him.
He doesn't have to sell. They're just going to take it away from him and sell it for him.

 
there was this other gigantic jagasaurus who tried to sue when he had to arbitrate named alex fraudriguez and that turned out great for him take that to the bank brohans

 
i'm sorry if this has been answered but i'm not wading through all the #### in the last several pages.

Can we assume that the league wanted to oust Sterling for a while and this was the final straw and a great opportunity to do it? As much of an ####### as I think Sterling is, it does seem like a pretty heavy punishment for this one incident.

 
here is what i think there a few times in your life when you get to actually see something great happen right now the nba is everywhere and everyone knows the stars it is worldwide in a way that even the nfl is you can go to any remote place and kids know mj and larry and magic and that is just how it is and that body that group that nba just stood up and said it stops here and if you are a racist you are no longer one of us bam brohans this is one of those things that might not seem like much right now but what it is will echo through the generations so for me i think we all turned a corner and hey get on the train or get left behind take that to the bank brohans

 
We could talk about the Lakers (allegedly) not firing D'Antoni.
No team inLA wants to win?
Let's leave the Pelicans out of this for now.
Did the Lakers not meet expectations or something this year? Why is firing him a priority? Given the D league lineup they ran out there this year I thought they were unexpectedly competitive.
He did a lousy good job of tailoring his game plans to the personnel on hand - particularly the bigs.

The defense was non-existent. He'd complain about it, but it wasn't in any way evident that he actually tried to improve it through any efforts of his.

He waged an alienate Pau Gasol campaign through the press in a very catty fashion.

He's not a good coach.

 
This is not going to be as cut and dry as some of you think. This guy has been part of the association for 20+ years. Just wait until he starts airing dirty laundry.

 
i'm sorry if this has been answered but i'm not wading through all the #### in the last several pages.

Can we assume that the league wanted to oust Sterling for a while and this was the final straw and a great opportunity to do it? As much of an ####### as I think Sterling is, it does seem like a pretty heavy punishment for this one incident.
I'm sure most of the other owners have preferred he be gone for a long time now, but they probably didn't think it was worth fight or the publicity. Most of the public didn't know or care what a POS he was. They do now.

Also, didn't he get sick a few years ago? Maybe they thought the problem would just take care of itself.

 
We could talk about the Lakers (allegedly) not firing D'Antoni.
No team inLA wants to win?
Let's leave the Pelicans out of this for now.
Did the Lakers not meet expectations or something this year? Why is firing him a priority? Given the D league lineup they ran out there this year I thought they were unexpectedly competitive.
He did a lousy good job of tailoring his game plans to the personnel on hand - particularly the bigs.The defense was non-existent. He'd complain about it, but it wasn't in any way evident that he actually tried to improve it through any efforts of his.

He waged an alienate Pau Gasol campaign through the press in a very catty fashion.

He's not a good coach.
Maybe, but a coaching change isn't going to fix anything for next year.

 
i'm sorry if this has been answered but i'm not wading through all the #### in the last several pages.

Can we assume that the league wanted to oust Sterling for a while and this was the final straw and a great opportunity to do it? As much of an ####### as I think Sterling is, it does seem like a pretty heavy punishment for this one incident.
It has to be, if they were only looking at this event alone, there is no way the punishment would be that severe. NBA is partially at fault here for not making him attend sensitivity training (that we know of) for his earlier offense.

 
58 days to the draft. 21 days until the lottery.

Over/under on the Pistons naming a new GM & coach? Seems like the new(ish) owners move at a snails pace.

 
We could talk about the Lakers (allegedly) not firing D'Antoni.
No team inLA wants to win?
Let's leave the Pelicans out of this for now.
Did the Lakers not meet expectations or something this year? Why is firing him a priority? Given the D league lineup they ran out there this year I thought they were unexpectedly competitive.
He did a lousy good job of tailoring his game plans to the personnel on hand - particularly the bigs.The defense was non-existent. He'd complain about it, but it wasn't in any way evident that he actually tried to improve it through any efforts of his.

He waged an alienate Pau Gasol campaign through the press in a very catty fashion.

He's not a good coach.
Maybe, but a coaching change isn't going to fix anything for next year.
I don't know about fixing things, but he's definitely not any part of the rebuilding solution, particularly if they land a decent rookie. I don't trust him to develop a prospect. Also it seems like there might be some good coaches available in the offseason. It would suck to miss out on one of those guys because they're not willing to dump this joker.

 
This is not going to be as cut and dry as some of you think. This guy has been part of the association for 20+ years. Just wait until he starts airing dirty laundry.
wtf are you talking about?
I don't think all 31 other owners are squeaky clean and people talk. If you associate with a group of people for 20 years, you are bound to know things that others don't want public.
Obviously, they know that and are fine taking that risk.

I also think the slippery slope issue is a bit overblown. The public is willing to accept all sorts of bad behavior from rich white men. 99% of it really doesn't matter.

But there are a very certain few things that will make you irredeemable (for a public figure). More importantly, there is a very small list of offenses that will have sponsors hitting the bricks and fans boycotting. Racism is one of them. Sterling didn't tell a tasteless joke. He didn't have a little slip up. He went on for 15+ minutes about how he didn't want his GF seen around black people. He left no doubt.

Racism isn't some controversial opinion. It's just unacceptable, and for good reason.

 
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This is not going to be as cut and dry as some of you think. This guy has been part of the association for 20+ years. Just wait until he starts airing dirty laundry.
wtf are you talking about?
I don't think all 31 other owners are squeaky clean and people talk. If you associate with a group of people for 20 years, you are bound to know things that others don't want public.
Obviously, they know that and are fine taking that risk.

I also think the slippery slope issue is a bit overblown. The public is willing to accept all sorts of bad behavior from rich white men. 99% of it really doesn't matter.

But there are a very certain few things that will make you irredeemable (for a public figure). More importantly, there is a very small list of offenses that will have sponsors hitting the bricks and fans boycotting. Racism is one of them. Sterling didn't tell a tasteless joke. He didn't have a little slip up. He went on for 15+ minutes about how he didn't want his GF seen around black people. He left no doubt.

Racism isn't some controversial opinion. It's just unacceptable, and for good reason.
I suspect most of the other 29 owners keep their laundry to themselves. Most successfully people don't get that way by doing stupid stuff. There are exceptions like Sterling.

While it may not be fair that hating black people is a bigger deal than drunk driving, everyone with even bit of common sense knows the ground rules. for public figures. Even moreso when most of your employees and talent are black.

 
This is not going to be as cut and dry as some of you think. This guy has been part of the association for 20+ years. Just wait until he starts airing dirty laundry.
wtf are you talking about?
I don't think all 31 other owners are squeaky clean and people talk. If you associate with a group of people for 20 years, you are bound to know things that others don't want public.
Obviously, they know that and are fine taking that risk.

I also think the slippery slope issue is a bit overblown. The public is willing to accept all sorts of bad behavior from rich white men. 99% of it really doesn't matter.

But there are a very certain few things that will make you irredeemable (for a public figure). More importantly, there is a very small list of offenses that will have sponsors hitting the bricks and fans boycotting. Racism is one of them. Sterling didn't tell a tasteless joke. He didn't have a little slip up. He went on for 15+ minutes about how he didn't want his GF seen around black people. He left no doubt.

Racism isn't some controversial opinion. It's just unacceptable, and for good reason.
I agree. I found it very offensive for all those players that he referred to them as being slave like, not just blacks. The part where he goes on about he's paying for their cars, homes, etc showed me more than the racist he is. I hope the clips have a large loud crowd tonight and win this game despite all this crap that hangs over their heads. Poor players and Doc.

 
Good to see the new commisioner maximally demote Sterling.

This magnitude or scale of incident doesn't happen often in sports.

Reminiscent of Marge Schott, Al Campanis (imploded on Nightline), Jimmy the Greek and Tom Brookshier, but those are decades ago.

* Didn't read the whole thread, Sterling's wife owns half the team, not sure if that could complicate the anticipated next move of the league to attempt to force a sale. An ESPN legal commentator (Lester Munson?) said he didn't think there would be a legal obstacle, there was a provision for removing an owner in the league constitution.

Hope the team and coach do well in the playoffs.

Sterling has been one of the worst owners in professional sports for a long time. He reportedly used to treat the team as a tax write off to offset profits in his real estate dealings.

 
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I could see him selling it to a Seattle bidder . They will pay top dollar and do anything to get basketball back and that would be a big middle finger to LA as the team packs up and leaves town.

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I could see him selling it to a Seattle bidder . They will pay top dollar and do anything to get basketball back and that would be a big middle finger to LA as the team packs up and leaves town.

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Clippers sold over 95 percent of their tickets last year and are probably worth more in LA. Seriously doubt Seattle gets any play in this.

 

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