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As I was having dinner with my dad tonight, he told me that he heard on the radio about an hour ago that Donald Sterling will refuse to sell and that he will sue the NBA for antitrust and "devaluing the team". I tried to find confirmation of this on the internet but I can't- the only story I could find is that, according to Forbes, Jim Gray spoke to Sterling yesterday and Sterling indicated that he would not sell. But that story is already a day old.

Anybody else hear this? It should be noted that Donald Sterling has NEVER sold any of his properties, and he takes special pride in letting people know this is the case. If he takes the NBA to court, this could get really ugly really fast. Forget the playoffs- suppose when September comes around Sterling, by taking legal action, is still the owner of the team? What then?

 
As I was having dinner with my dad tonight, he told me that he heard on the radio about an hour ago that Donald Sterling will refuse to sell and that he will sue the NBA for antitrust and "devaluing the team". I tried to find confirmation of this on the internet but I can't- the only story I could find is that, according to Forbes, Jim Gray spoke to Sterling yesterday and Sterling indicated that he would not sell. But that story is already a day old.

Anybody else hear this?
The SI article right after this happened predicted that. Antitrust suit for putting him in a position where buyers know he as to sell.

 
Jesus that was exhausting. What a bonehead move by Jonas at the end, if that pass was tipped they win the game on that. I see guys doing that all over the league, if the shot goes in let it, Russell Westbrook did it twice in a row sometime recently and landed on his ### after the second, imagine a guy gets injured trying to make sure a guys after the buzzer shot doesn't go in.

Pay Kyle Lowry that max times 2, Derozan still has issues creating when Ds focus on him and pressure him hard but man at least hes cold blooded from the line. And Landry better still be sick or whatever to have Salmons in all those minutes, especially when Johnson is going off.

Anyways on to Brooklyn, hopefully they end it there.

 
As I was having dinner with my dad tonight, he told me that he heard on the radio about an hour ago that Donald Sterling will refuse to sell and that he will sue the NBA for antitrust and "devaluing the team". I tried to find confirmation of this on the internet but I can't- the only story I could find is that, according to Forbes, Jim Gray spoke to Sterling yesterday and Sterling indicated that he would not sell. But that story is already a day old.

Anybody else hear this?
The SI article right after this happened predicted that. Antitrust suit for putting him in a position where buyers know he as to sell.
People are already lining up. It will be a bidding war. And the other owners aren't going to let someone into the club on the cheap. That argument is pretty weak.

 
As I was having dinner with my dad tonight, he told me that he heard on the radio about an hour ago that Donald Sterling will refuse to sell and that he will sue the NBA for antitrust and "devaluing the team". I tried to find confirmation of this on the internet but I can't- the only story I could find is that, according to Forbes, Jim Gray spoke to Sterling yesterday and Sterling indicated that he would not sell. But that story is already a day old.

Anybody else hear this?
The SI article right after this happened predicted that. Antitrust suit for putting him in a position where buyers know he as to sell.
People are already lining up. It will be a bidding war. And the other owners aren't going to let someone into the club on the cheap. That argument is pretty weak.
agreed. The people showing interest not only have a lot of money, they have a lot of friends with lots of money too. You don't think Larry Ellison, Oprah Winfrey, and David Geffen could cobble together a couple billion?
 
Wow, unreal game. So upset at how lazy Pierce and KG are playing, no effort it seems. Lowry is probably my most hated player in the NBA, he had an incredible game but his flopping is out of control. He almost gets the whistle every time he goes flying so understand why he does that, but as a fan its disgusting to watch. game was tied after the late JJ 3 and Mirza was pressing up on Lowry in the backcourt and Lowry bumped into him and went flying when there was no foul, ref blew the whistle, then next possession down he flopped again on an Anderson drive that should have been a blocking foul. Completely changed the game.

This series is going 7 though, lets go Nets.

 
As I was having dinner with my dad tonight, he told me that he heard on the radio about an hour ago that Donald Sterling will refuse to sell and that he will sue the NBA for antitrust and "devaluing the team". I tried to find confirmation of this on the internet but I can't- the only story I could find is that, according to Forbes, Jim Gray spoke to Sterling yesterday and Sterling indicated that he would not sell. But that story is already a day old.

Anybody else hear this?
The SI article right after this happened predicted that. Antitrust suit for putting him in a position where buyers know he as to sell.
People are already lining up. It will be a bidding war. And the other owners aren't going to let someone into the club on the cheap. That argument is pretty weak.
My question to you and other lawyers is this: even if it's a weak case, can Sterling delay the sale simply by making it and suing the NBA? Because if he can get an injunction that lasts through the beginning of next season, it's going to be really ugly...

 
As I was having dinner with my dad tonight, he told me that he heard on the radio about an hour ago that Donald Sterling will refuse to sell and that he will sue the NBA for antitrust and "devaluing the team". I tried to find confirmation of this on the internet but I can't- the only story I could find is that, according to Forbes, Jim Gray spoke to Sterling yesterday and Sterling indicated that he would not sell. But that story is already a day old.

Anybody else hear this?
The SI article right after this happened predicted that. Antitrust suit for putting him in a position where buyers know he as to sell.
People are already lining up. It will be a bidding war. And the other owners aren't going to let someone into the club on the cheap. That argument is pretty weak.
My question to you and other lawyers is this: even if it's a weak case, can Sterling delay the sale simply by making it and suing the NBA? Because if he can get an injunction that lasts through the beginning of next season, it's going to be really ugly...
If the owners vote to boot him then it really doesn't matter how long the actual sale will take. He's not going to be running the team.

 
Abraham said:
Christo said:
pollardsvision said:
timschochet said:
As I was having dinner with my dad tonight, he told me that he heard on the radio about an hour ago that Donald Sterling will refuse to sell and that he will sue the NBA for antitrust and "devaluing the team". I tried to find confirmation of this on the internet but I can't- the only story I could find is that, according to Forbes, Jim Gray spoke to Sterling yesterday and Sterling indicated that he would not sell. But that story is already a day old.

Anybody else hear this?
The SI article right after this happened predicted that. Antitrust suit for putting him in a position where buyers know he as to sell.
People are already lining up. It will be a bidding war. And the other owners aren't going to let someone into the club on the cheap. That argument is pretty weak.
agreed. The people showing interest not only have a lot of money, they have a lot of friends with lots of money too. You don't think Larry Ellison, Oprah Winfrey, and David Geffen could cobble together a couple billion?
So because they are rich they are going to pay more than they have to? That's not how people get rich, guy.

 
Abraham said:
Christo said:
pollardsvision said:
timschochet said:
As I was having dinner with my dad tonight, he told me that he heard on the radio about an hour ago that Donald Sterling will refuse to sell and that he will sue the NBA for antitrust and "devaluing the team". I tried to find confirmation of this on the internet but I can't- the only story I could find is that, according to Forbes, Jim Gray spoke to Sterling yesterday and Sterling indicated that he would not sell. But that story is already a day old.

Anybody else hear this?
The SI article right after this happened predicted that. Antitrust suit for putting him in a position where buyers know he as to sell.
People are already lining up. It will be a bidding war. And the other owners aren't going to let someone into the club on the cheap. That argument is pretty weak.
agreed. The people showing interest not only have a lot of money, they have a lot of friends with lots of money too. You don't think Larry Ellison, Oprah Winfrey, and David Geffen could cobble together a couple billion?
So because they are rich they are going to pay more than they have to? That's not how people get rich, guy.
No, but they will pay enough to undo the argument that the nba is driving the price down. It will be a record sale amount for an nba team by a wide margin.

 
Christo said:
timschochet said:
Christo said:
pollardsvision said:
timschochet said:
As I was having dinner with my dad tonight, he told me that he heard on the radio about an hour ago that Donald Sterling will refuse to sell and that he will sue the NBA for antitrust and "devaluing the team". I tried to find confirmation of this on the internet but I can't- the only story I could find is that, according to Forbes, Jim Gray spoke to Sterling yesterday and Sterling indicated that he would not sell. But that story is already a day old.

Anybody else hear this?
The SI article right after this happened predicted that. Antitrust suit for putting him in a position where buyers know he as to sell.
People are already lining up. It will be a bidding war. And the other owners aren't going to let someone into the club on the cheap. That argument is pretty weak.
My question to you and other lawyers is this: even if it's a weak case, can Sterling delay the sale simply by making it and suing the NBA? Because if he can get an injunction that lasts through the beginning of next season, it's going to be really ugly...
If the owners vote to boot him then it really doesn't matter how long the actual sale will take. He's not going to be running the team.
Why would the owners vote to boot? They are pretty much setting a precedent for themselves to get booted later for all the bad stuff we know rich dudes do. Owners son rapes and kills a girl. Take his team. Owner gets caught on some insider trading thing, take his team. Six unpaid parking tickets, you guessed it, take a vote to take the team.

I wouldn't vote for this if I was another owner, no ####### way.

 
Abraham said:
Christo said:
pollardsvision said:
timschochet said:
As I was having dinner with my dad tonight, he told me that he heard on the radio about an hour ago that Donald Sterling will refuse to sell and that he will sue the NBA for antitrust and "devaluing the team". I tried to find confirmation of this on the internet but I can't- the only story I could find is that, according to Forbes, Jim Gray spoke to Sterling yesterday and Sterling indicated that he would not sell. But that story is already a day old.

Anybody else hear this?
The SI article right after this happened predicted that. Antitrust suit for putting him in a position where buyers know he as to sell.
People are already lining up. It will be a bidding war. And the other owners aren't going to let someone into the club on the cheap. That argument is pretty weak.
agreed. The people showing interest not only have a lot of money, they have a lot of friends with lots of money too. You don't think Larry Ellison, Oprah Winfrey, and David Geffen could cobble together a couple billion?
So because they are rich they are going to pay more than they have to? That's not how people get rich, guy.
No, but they will pay enough to undo the argument that the nba is driving the price down. It will be a record sale amount for an nba team by a wide margin.
A record sale doesn't necessarily undo that argument.

 
Christo said:
timschochet said:
Christo said:
pollardsvision said:
timschochet said:
As I was having dinner with my dad tonight, he told me that he heard on the radio about an hour ago that Donald Sterling will refuse to sell and that he will sue the NBA for antitrust and "devaluing the team". I tried to find confirmation of this on the internet but I can't- the only story I could find is that, according to Forbes, Jim Gray spoke to Sterling yesterday and Sterling indicated that he would not sell. But that story is already a day old.

Anybody else hear this?
The SI article right after this happened predicted that. Antitrust suit for putting him in a position where buyers know he as to sell.
People are already lining up. It will be a bidding war. And the other owners aren't going to let someone into the club on the cheap. That argument is pretty weak.
My question to you and other lawyers is this: even if it's a weak case, can Sterling delay the sale simply by making it and suing the NBA? Because if he can get an injunction that lasts through the beginning of next season, it's going to be really ugly...
If the owners vote to boot him then it really doesn't matter how long the actual sale will take. He's not going to be running the team.
Why would the owners vote to boot? They are pretty much setting a precedent for themselves to get booted later for all the bad stuff we know rich dudes do. Owners son rapes and kills a girl. Take his team. Owner gets caught on some insider trading thing, take his team. Six unpaid parking tickets, you guessed it, take a vote to take the team.

I wouldn't vote for this if I was another owner, no ####### way.
Then tim's question is moot.

G'night

 
NY Post reports a source close to Sterling says he will NOT sell the team, and will sue the NBA, and he doesnt care if the court case takes years.

 
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CurlyNight said:
I think if they sell the Clips now before next season while this thing and the team are hot, they would get $1 billion or more. They really want this guy gone. That along with the Clips being a great team should drive up the price. Everything in LA is more expensive so really don't see the comparison to the Buck's sale. :shrug:
Whether the clips are good or not makes no difference. This is LA real-estate and TV market. That's all that matters.

Clips will go for 1.2-1.4 billion if not more.

 
Christo said:
timschochet said:
Christo said:
pollardsvision said:
timschochet said:
As I was having dinner with my dad tonight, he told me that he heard on the radio about an hour ago that Donald Sterling will refuse to sell and that he will sue the NBA for antitrust and "devaluing the team". I tried to find confirmation of this on the internet but I can't- the only story I could find is that, according to Forbes, Jim Gray spoke to Sterling yesterday and Sterling indicated that he would not sell. But that story is already a day old.

Anybody else hear this?
The SI article right after this happened predicted that. Antitrust suit for putting him in a position where buyers know he as to sell.
People are already lining up. It will be a bidding war. And the other owners aren't going to let someone into the club on the cheap. That argument is pretty weak.
My question to you and other lawyers is this: even if it's a weak case, can Sterling delay the sale simply by making it and suing the NBA? Because if he can get an injunction that lasts through the beginning of next season, it's going to be really ugly...
If the owners vote to boot him then it really doesn't matter how long the actual sale will take. He's not going to be running the team.
Why would the owners vote to boot? They are pretty much setting a precedent for themselves to get booted later for all the bad stuff we know rich dudes do. Owners son rapes and kills a girl. Take his team. Owner gets caught on some insider trading thing, take his team. Six unpaid parking tickets, you guessed it, take a vote to take the team.

I wouldn't vote for this if I was another owner, no ####### way.
Silver had the votes before his press-conference. He's middle-management.

 
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tommyGunZ said:
Latest ESPN mock has the Magic getting Embiid at 3 and Smart at 12. Cappy would be dancing in the strip mall parking lot.
There's no way this happen, but yea I would be blown away.

 
Christo said:
timschochet said:
Christo said:
pollardsvision said:
timschochet said:
As I was having dinner with my dad tonight, he told me that he heard on the radio about an hour ago that Donald Sterling will refuse to sell and that he will sue the NBA for antitrust and "devaluing the team". I tried to find confirmation of this on the internet but I can't- the only story I could find is that, according to Forbes, Jim Gray spoke to Sterling yesterday and Sterling indicated that he would not sell. But that story is already a day old.

Anybody else hear this?
The SI article right after this happened predicted that. Antitrust suit for putting him in a position where buyers know he as to sell.
People are already lining up. It will be a bidding war. And the other owners aren't going to let someone into the club on the cheap. That argument is pretty weak.
My question to you and other lawyers is this: even if it's a weak case, can Sterling delay the sale simply by making it and suing the NBA? Because if he can get an injunction that lasts through the beginning of next season, it's going to be really ugly...
If the owners vote to boot him then it really doesn't matter how long the actual sale will take. He's not going to be running the team.
Why would the owners vote to boot? They are pretty much setting a precedent for themselves to get booted later for all the bad stuff we know rich dudes do. Owners son rapes and kills a girl. Take his team. Owner gets caught on some insider trading thing, take his team. Six unpaid parking tickets, you guessed it, take a vote to take the team.

I wouldn't vote for this if I was another owner, no ####### way.
It's not the Supreme Court. They're not establishing precedent. They can do it on a case by case basis. For however many years the bylaw has been in place they've never exercised the authority. They'll exercise it once and then almost definitely go back to not ever exercising it again.

Also, people seem not to understand the difference between a bad action and a bad belief system. We all do the former from time to time in varying degrees. Very few of us possess the latter to the degree that Sterling exhibited. It's a significant difference, and I'm sure the owners get that.

 
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First round series odds, only value I see are the Raptors.

  • Heat -2000 over Bobcats +1200 (93% chance of Heat advancing)
  • Spurs -675 over Mavs +550 (85% chance of Spurs advancing)
  • Pacers -560 over Hawks +480 (83% chance of Pacers advancing)
  • Thunder -350 over Grizzlies +300 (76% chance of Thunder advancing)
  • Clippers -350 over Warriors +300 (76% chance of Clippers advancing)
  • Bulls -190 over Wizards +170 (64% chance of Bulls advancing)
  • Rockets -190 over Blazers +170 (64% chance of Rockets advancing)
  • Nets -130 over Raptors +110 (54% chance of Nets advancing)
Totally agree. I'm gonna play the Raptors and that's probably it.

I was hoping the Clippers were gonna be somewhere in the -250 range. Guessing the Bogut injury killed that. Also was hoping the Heat would grab the 1 seed and the Pacers would have to play the Bobcats, Charlotte would have made an attractive heavy underdog there.

Grizz worth a shot maybe?
Absolutely. I don't understand why the Thunder and Clippers have the same odds. 76% seems awfully high for the Thunder.
I think the Grizzlies have the next best value behind the Raptors just because I don't see any of the other teams having a chance to pull off an upset barring injury.
So ... this is going well.

Wiz win a playoff series, two underdog wagers take 3-2 series leads, and Andray Blatche is a playoff goat. Best playoffs ever.

 
As much as I'd love to think the rockets have finally gotten their act together ( Dwight with two blocks on LA in the final minute!) it's probably too little too late. Glad they won last night though and finally looked good doing it.

 
biggamer3 said:
Wow, unreal game. So upset at how lazy Pierce and KG are playing, no effort it seems. Lowry is probably my most hated player in the NBA, he had an incredible game but his flopping is out of control. He almost gets the whistle every time he goes flying so understand why he does that, but as a fan its disgusting to watch. game was tied after the late JJ 3 and Mirza was pressing up on Lowry in the backcourt and Lowry bumped into him and went flying when there was no foul, ref blew the whistle, then next possession down he flopped again on an Anderson drive that should have been a blocking foul. Completely changed the game.

This series is going 7 though, lets go Nets.
:lmao:

Yeah, the guys who leads the league in charges taken is a flopper.

A big "pressing up" on a PG in the back court is going to get called for a foul 90% of the time. Anderson lowered his shoulder and went straight into Lowry (man he was a trainwreck down the stretch). There were plays you could ##### about if you really wanted to, but those weren't them.

This is pretty rich coming from a Brooklyn "fan" :thumbup:

 
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biggamer3 said:
Wow, unreal game. So upset at how lazy Pierce and KG are playing, no effort it seems. Lowry is probably my most hated player in the NBA, he had an incredible game but his flopping is out of control. He almost gets the whistle every time he goes flying so understand why he does that, but as a fan its disgusting to watch. game was tied after the late JJ 3 and Mirza was pressing up on Lowry in the backcourt and Lowry bumped into him and went flying when there was no foul, ref blew the whistle, then next possession down he flopped again on an Anderson drive that should have been a blocking foul. Completely changed the game.

This series is going 7 though, lets go Nets.
:lmao:

Yeah, the guys who leads the league in charges taken is a flopper.

A big "pressing up" on a PG in the back court is going to get called for a foul 90% of the time. Anderson lowered his shoulder and went straight into Lowry (man he was a trainwreck down the stretch). There were plays you could ##### about if you really wanted to, but those weren't them.

This is pretty rich coming from a Brooklyn "fan" :thumbup:
It was an emotional game so I didn't want to rub salt and thought maybe I was being a homer but felt the same way. The foul on Teletovic he was riding him the whole way, just because Lowry created the contact doesn't mean Teletovic wasn't sliding and riding him and it wasn't a blocking foul. And with Anderson he did lower his shoulder but not only that if you try to say Lowry flopped on that then how can there be enough contact to warrant a blocking foul...

Anyways its been a heck of a series much like most of these playoff series. Should be a good finish. Did love seeing sad faced Pierce and KG on the bench at the end. Pierce must have loved being benched for Alan Anderson in the clutch, couldn't have happened to two nicer guys.

 
biggamer3 said:
Wow, unreal game. So upset at how lazy Pierce and KG are playing, no effort it seems. Lowry is probably my most hated player in the NBA, he had an incredible game but his flopping is out of control. He almost gets the whistle every time he goes flying so understand why he does that, but as a fan its disgusting to watch. game was tied after the late JJ 3 and Mirza was pressing up on Lowry in the backcourt and Lowry bumped into him and went flying when there was no foul, ref blew the whistle, then next possession down he flopped again on an Anderson drive that should have been a blocking foul. Completely changed the game.

This series is going 7 though, lets go Nets.
:lmao:

Yeah, the guys who leads the league in charges taken is a flopper.

A big "pressing up" on a PG in the back court is going to get called for a foul 90% of the time. Anderson lowered his shoulder and went straight into Lowry (man he was a trainwreck down the stretch). There were plays you could ##### about if you really wanted to, but those weren't them.

This is pretty rich coming from a Brooklyn "fan" :thumbup:
It was an emotional game so I didn't want to rub salt and thought maybe I was being a homer but felt the same way. The foul on Teletovic he was riding him the whole way, just because Lowry created the contact doesn't mean Teletovic wasn't sliding and riding him and it wasn't a blocking foul. And with Anderson he did lower his shoulder but not only that if you try to say Lowry flopped on that then how can there be enough contact to warrant a blocking foul...

Anyways its been a heck of a series much like most of these playoff series. Should be a good finish. Did love seeing sad faced Pierce and KG on the bench at the end. Pierce must have loved being benched for Alan Anderson in the clutch, couldn't have happened to two nicer guys.
Probably had multiple heart attacks during the game. Nice to pull the win out, but these stretches of complete and utter incompetence that this team goes through at least once a game can be maddening.

Big thumbs up to seeing sad faced Pierce and KG....I can't think of any basketball players I hate more than those two. Terrence Ross needs to stay on the bench until he gets fixed.

 

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