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in SVG's doghouse?it's a ridiculous to me. the magic make a trade for Gilbert and let him wither on the vine. dude has more talent in his pinky than nelson has in his entire body. arenas has played like crap for SVG but he's not going to get any better riding the pine and playing behind nelson.
C'mon now - you're saying this team is at it's ceiling right now? 3 months after trading 1/2 the team for Melo? With their PG going down and missing virtually the entire series, and Stat missing a game and being limited in others? Clearly Miami and Chicago are going to be the beasts of the east in the near future, but Boston and Orlando's runs are basically up. When NY adds Paul next, you really think they're a "consistent 1st round out"?
No. He's been simply atrocious this year.
for orlando? sure but you know what he is capable of. that's why you make the trade for him. nelson isn't anything even remotely special.
I don't know what special has to do with anything. When the options are average to slightly above-average, or god-awful, give me option A. Arenas stopped being special awhile ago.
I know what he WAS capable of -- 4 years ago. That guy is gone and he ain't coming back.
the only player to actually thrive in SVG's system is hedo. i don't think a player like arenas, who still has talent to spare, can expect to thrive under the controlling, petty eye of a coach like SVG. certainly not when your minutes are cut and you're playing backup to a player like nelson. it's a bad trade for both player and team.
I can't talk about all year because I didn't watch them but in this game who else besides Howard provides offense for the magic? Only Arenas today. Hedo, Nelson, the other guys- all invisible.
yea it's the petty coach's fault that Arenas is shooting 28% on 3s, is a human turnover machine and is maybe the worst defensive player on the team (and that's saying something).
i'm not quite ready to pour dirt on his grave just yet. he's 29 and - between suspension and injury - has pretty low mileage. no one would expect him to play well for Washington this year following the gun incident. no one should expect him to play well for a jerk like SVG either. he's the wrong player for that team, quite simply. i'd be willing to give him a year playing on a team where he's wanted and happy before giving up on him. he's not a bad guy, imo, even if he's a knucklehead.
I exaggerated a bit saying they'll be a one and out team, but a Knicks team led by Amare and Melo will never be a serious championship contender. They'll be a 2nd round playoff team at best. Those two are pure scorers who don't pass the ball and play at best average defense. Now a Knicks team led by CP3 is a whole different animal. You're talking about adding the best PG in the game. Granted they would still need a center who can rebound and defend and a role playing defensive stopper on the wing, but I would expect a CP3/Amare/Melo team to be in the Eastern Finals when healthy (iffy with CP3 and Amare's knee issues), though I doubt they have enough to get by Miami and Rose/Noah/Deng/Boozer.So the answer to your question is yes and no. If Amare and Melo remain as the Knicks' two best players, they have pretty much maxed out as 2nd rounder contenders. If you're talking about adding the best PG in the league, well there would be very few franchises that wouldn't reach a round or two deeper in the playoffs by adding CP3 to the roster.
The Lakers got more for Shaq than Orlando did. If the Magic don't think they're going to be able to keep Howard they have to try to get something for him.Either way it's going to be devastating to lose the most dominant power player in the league for the second time the franchise's short history.
look at his numbers this season with the Wiz and compare them against the Magic. not that they were great but i can see letting him have some time to get the rust off. however, he clearly playing better in Washington. what's different? i'm open to all reasonable answers.
His numbers with the wizards were pretty atrocious this year as well. In fact, same shooting percentage as with the Magic, and a horrid turnover rate. Premier is right, Arenas is not a very good player anymore. He is not better than Jameer Nelson at point guard.look at his numbers this season with the Wiz and compare them against the Magic. not that they were great but i can see letting him have some time to get the rust off. however, he clearly playing better in Washington. what's different? i'm open to all reasonable answers.
I wish I could count how many close Magic games have ended with Hedo iso'ing out and then bricking a 3. Unfortunately he's one of those guys that stupid people think is "clutch" because he's hit a few shots in the playoffs.
Premier, as a Magic fan, would you fire Stan Van Gundy? Or do you think he's doing a decent job?
To make it worse, I'm sitting on my couch watching the game, and I knew it was coming. You have to assume the Hawks coaching staff have this figured out also.
Except that guy who was on Ariza until they had call in Artest to stop the bleeding...
He's done a great job. I think he's one of the best coaches in the league. Now Otis Smith...that's a guy you could go ahead and fire.
The hate is strong with this one.
Really bad. Lucky to only be down by 4. Kobe scored 0...I can see a big 2nd half from him though.
Was I wrong?
I'm no Hornets fan, chief. Just calling it like I see it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QscR2eZtLE&feature=relatedThis highlight shows you the last few possessions.
Refs were calling touch fouls on both teams a few possessions back. I think 3 were called on one possession...2 on the Hornets and 1 on the Lakers.I'm no Hornets fan, chief. Just calling it like I see it.
IIRC, JR hit back to back triples to close the gap in a very short amount of time. After the second one, the Thunders quickly got the ball in and two quick long passes Had Ibaka wide open for a dunk. He could/should have dribbled around, but took the easy two points. On the last possession, they ran it for JR again (he was hot) and he got stuck bodied up against the defender (Thabo?) who would not let him get airspace. He forced a tightly contested three, trying to draw a foul. He immediately started whining for a call after the ball left his hands. I thought the play that Karl drew up was a little weak, honestly (and I love George Karl). There has to be a better way to get him (or someone) open for three. They have several threats from the arc.Also JR was visibly pissed that he didn't get into the game until very late. Around the 4 minute mark.
I think the refs were trying to reign in the game after the Paul/Kobe interaction. That said, the one where Kobe went to the line after a minor bump while grabbing a defensive board was super weak IMO.Refs were calling touch fouls on both teams a few possessions back. I think 3 were called on one possession...2 on the Hornets and 1 on the Lakers.I'm no Hornets fan, chief. Just calling it like I see it.
Awesome, thanks.Jesus, Nene completely effed that final Thunder possession. And that was a tough no call on that final JR jumper, Harden was bodying up on JR all the way through that play... not that it would have mattered with JR's horrible 16 foot free throw shooting.
How did Gasol end up on the floor during the previous steal?
