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Brooks is an above average defender.
He had the worst defensive rating on the team last year.
He had the worst defensive rating on the team last year.
He had the worst defensive rating on the team last year.I see it differently.Brooks is an above average defender.He had the worst defensive rating on the team last year.

I see it differently.Brooks is an above average defender.He had the worst defensive rating on the team last year.
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That said, I am fairly sure he'll get dealt sometime this year.Anyone what to comment on him? I don't watch many Golden State games.HOOPSWORLD CJ Watson agreed to a three year, $10.2 million deal with the Bulls. It will be a sign and trade with GS getting a 2nd round pick
I'm gonna miss CJ. He was always a great energy guy, pretty streaky shooter. He had to play way more minutes than he should have last year due to all the injuries the W's had but I think he's perfect backup PG who can put in 15 min a game. At +$3M a year I think its a great signing for the Bulls.Anyone what to comment on him? I don't watch many Golden State games.HOOPSWORLD CJ Watson agreed to a three year, $10.2 million deal with the Bulls. It will be a sign and trade with GS getting a 2nd round pick
Happy for CJ to get paid finally. He'll be a great back-up PG. He's one of those players that you can count on to give you 100% at all times and he's pretty clutch as well. On offense his game is more of a scoring PG. He has a solid mid-range jumper and while he could always get to the rim last year he really improved his finishing ability at the rim. He also is super quick and does really well in transition as a finisher. However, in transition and the half court Watson's passing skills are average at best. On defense he tries hard, gets tons of steals, but his man to man defense is suspect. I was really hoping the Warriors would re-sign CJ but if Ellis and Curry are healthy Charlie Bell should be decent enough as a back up. 3+ seems like good value to me for a good young PG.Anyone what to comment on him? I don't watch many Golden State games.HOOPSWORLD CJ Watson agreed to a three year, $10.2 million deal with the Bulls. It will be a sign and trade with GS getting a 2nd round pick
Really? All Brooks does is score. He's a below average passer, doesn't rebound, is average at creating TOs (stls/blks/chg), and his lack of strength hurts him in man defense because it negates his lateral quickness since guards can easily get a shoulder past him. PGs in the Western Conference I'd rather have over Aaron Brooks for 1 season...Brooks has some weaknesses but he is an above average defender and very good in transition d due to his qouickness. Obviously williams, paul, westbrook, rondo, rose, and wall are superior. Evans probably and Jennings as well. Maybe baron, bills, and parker if healthy. But I don't think I'm missing any clearly better pgs then brooks.Martinus a top 10 sg. Scola and Tao are top ten at their spots too assuming good health.Clearly me and you have very different views on brooks if you are considering him anywhere near the 5th best pg in the leauge. Brooks may be the smallest player in the nba other than earl boykins, he doesn't pass well or see the floor well, he can only guard the smallest of pgs and really other than his shooting/scoring (which he does very well) he offers little else on the court. This wouldn't be nearly the issue it is if he played on a team where players can find their own shot, but the rockets are mostly spot up shooters. Brooks is a shooting guard in a 15 year old boys body, so he would be much better served as a back up pg playing 25 minutes per game similar to lou williams or nate robinson.Major said:Kev4029 said:To the guys saying Houston is very deep (its a true statement), part of that is driven because they have a team full of 6th man talents (Battier, Ariza, Brooks, Lowry, Budinger). They really need a couple guys who can excel both offensively and defensively (not sure they have one on the roster, maybe Lowry), and they either need to move Brooks to a bench role or trade him for a real point guard. Doesn't matter if you're deep if you don't have much top flight talent.Maybe on New Orleans, Utah, Chicago and Boston.
Houston is a very deep team but lacks the star power to win in the playoffs. I could see them getting the 2 or 3 seed and making a quick exit in the postseasin
I'm amazed that you're able to wake yourself up in the morning.Where's the proof in that article that shows Bron has lost $???He's already refuted that as being speculationSeriously?I'm am arguing to the people who say his boys influence has hurt the amount of money he'll be able to earn or failed to earn. I was able to pull up a link that showed in at least 2008 he was #1 on the list but haven't been able to find anything for 2009 and 2010. Unless he pulls a Tiger like situation I can't see how his earning potential will suffer.Just to be clear, you are saying that all of the bad publicity that Lebron and his management has brought into their camp is good for his image and will make him the maximum amount of money possible?![]()
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I sort of agree with this. Right now Lebron is the most hated basketball player in the league. 'The Decision' proved that he isn't a wordsman. He, DWade and the rest of the crew need to stop doing interviews and just go away for awhile until the season starts.This will disappear once he starts playing ball again. The lack of any sporting news is keeping this active a little longer than usual, but a 25-2 start(and a 7-20 start for Cavs)to the season will erase all negative publicity from the decision.
Really? All Brooks does is score. He's a below average passer, doesn't rebound, is average at creating TOs (stls/blks/chg), and his lack of strength hurts him in man defense because it negates his lateral quickness since guards can easily get a shoulder past him. PGs in the Western Conference I'd rather have over Aaron Brooks for 1 season...Brooks has some weaknesses but he is an above average defender and very good in transition d due to his qouickness. Obviously williams, paul, westbrook, rondo, rose, and wall are superior. Evans probably and Jennings as well. Maybe baron, bills, and parker if healthy. But I don't think I'm missing any clearly better pgs then brooks.Martinus a top 10 sg. Scola and Tao are top ten at their spots too assuming good health.Clearly me and you have very different views on brooks if you are considering him anywhere near the 5th best pg in the leauge. Brooks may be the smallest player in the nba other than earl boykins, he doesn't pass well or see the floor well, he can only guard the smallest of pgs and really other than his shooting/scoring (which he does very well) he offers little else on the court. This wouldn't be nearly the issue it is if he played on a team where players can find their own shot, but the rockets are mostly spot up shooters. Brooks is a shooting guard in a 15 year old boys body, so he would be much better served as a back up pg playing 25 minutes per game similar to lou williams or nate robinson.Major said:Kev4029 said:To the guys saying Houston is very deep (its a true statement), part of that is driven because they have a team full of 6th man talents (Battier, Ariza, Brooks, Lowry, Budinger). They really need a couple guys who can excel both offensively and defensively (not sure they have one on the roster, maybe Lowry), and they either need to move Brooks to a bench role or trade him for a real point guard. Doesn't matter if you're deep if you don't have much top flight talent.Maybe on New Orleans, Utah, Chicago and Boston.
Houston is a very deep team but lacks the star power to win in the playoffs. I could see them getting the 2 or 3 seed and making a quick exit in the postseasin
Chris Paul - Self explanatory.
Darren Collison - Showed solid PG skills with an injured Paul.
Stephen Curry - More efficient score, worlds better passer, and creates more TOs on defense.
Jason Kidd - Oldie but his PG skills are top notch, better rebounder, better defender.
Andre Miller - Again top notch PG skills, better rebounder, better defender.
Deron Williams - Self explanatory.
Steve Nash - The best shooter in the NBA and the best passer.
Chauncey Billups - Better PG skills, better rebounding, better defense.
Russell Westbrook - Better PG skills, better rebounding, better defense.
Tony Parker - Edges out Brooks as a slightly more efficient scorer and slightly better passer and defender.
Steve Blake - Top notch passing skills and just as good as raining 3s. Both suck at D and rebounding. Passing > scoring for a PG.
Ramon Sessions - Better passer and defender.
Baron Davis - Better passer and better defender when motivated.
He'd only be an upgrade for the Kings (Evans is a SG, people), Memphis (not of fan of Conley), and Minnesota (if they insist on Flynn at PG). With that said, Brooks is not a bad player and he's a definite rotation player but he's not a PG and he's too small to play SG.

Sad, very sad.Nice article on David Lee: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/sports/b...&ref=sports
What a great off-season it's been for the Warriors.
When word circulated through the Knicks’ organization that Lee had attended Scott Jaffer’s funeral, few people could have been surprised. In February, after the death of **** McGuire, a beloved Knicks organizational lifer, Lee was the only player to attend the funeral. Weeks later, when the franchise celebrated the 40th anniversary of its 1970 championship team with a halftime ceremony, Lee was the lone Knick to come out of the locker room to watch from courtside.
I like it. I wish they would have made a play for him the last time he was a free agent (last year or the year before?). Deal might not be done though (Barnes deal hits a snag). I think he makes the Kleiza deal look pretty bad. Barnes isn't quite as good on the offensive end, but he defense/toughness/attitude is far better than Kleiza. He would have been a great addition to the team last year instead Turk when offense wasn't a problem and the defense was embarassing... to put it nicely.I sure hope Triano lets them run. Every guy they got, including the bigs, can get up and down the floor and finish. The problems are going to come when they are forced to run their offense out of the half court. While they have a lot of great athletes, not many can create their own shot or knock down a three (The streak may come to an end). I think we'll see a lot of Bargnani in the post trying to inCliff, what are your thoughts on the likely Matt Barnes to the Raps deal?
I've always liked Barnes when I've seen him with GSW, PHO and most recently ORL, but I'm not sure if he isn't redundant on the Raps. He seems to give you pretty much what Kleiza will and with the development of Weems and DeRozan the depth looks to be great at the SG/SF spot, especially when you factor in Belinelli and Barbosa getting some burn at the 2.
The Raptors certainly look like a team that will push the ball and play more of a run and gun style, which should make watching the games at least interesting, but I'm still not sure how that starting lineup will shake out.
Didn't the Barnes to Toronto deal blow up overnight?I like it. I wish they would have made a play for him the last time he was a free agent (last year or the year before?). Deal might not be done though (Barnes deal hits a snag). I think he makes the Kleiza deal look pretty bad. Barnes isn't quite as good on the offensive end, but he defense/toughness/attitude is far better than Kleiza. He would have been a great addition to the team last year instead Turk when offense wasn't a problem and the defense was embarassing... to put it nicely.I sure hope Triano lets them run. Every guy they got, including the bigs, can get up and down the floor and finish. The problems are going to come when they are forced to run their offense out of the half court. While they have a lot of great athletes, not many can create their own shot or knock down a three (The streak may come to an end). I think we'll see a lot of Bargnani in the post trying to inCliff, what are your thoughts on the likely Matt Barnes to the Raps deal?
I've always liked Barnes when I've seen him with GSW, PHO and most recently ORL, but I'm not sure if he isn't redundant on the Raps. He seems to give you pretty much what Kleiza will and with the development of Weems and DeRozan the depth looks to be great at the SG/SF spot, especially when you factor in Belinelli and Barbosa getting some burn at the 2.
The Raptors certainly look like a team that will push the ball and play more of a run and gun style, which should make watching the games at least interesting, but I'm still not sure how that starting lineup will shake out.
Still have to wait and see what happens with Jose before we'll know what the lineup looks like. Hopefully they can move him with either Banks/Evans (expiring) and/or Bellini for a center.
Jack / Barbosa / Banks
Derozan / Weems / Bellini
Barnes / Kleiza
The bigs are a giant mess. You'd think they'd want to move Bargnani to PF but there really isn't a center on the roster. Johnson/Davis/Dorsey/Evans are all undersized. Alabi probably won't see much game time.
Rambling before my first coffee if that doesn't make sense...
except that Nellie is still the coach, of course...Nice article on David Lee: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/sports/b...&ref=sports
What a great off-season it's been for the Warriors.
Yes/No.They are still trying to work it out. Deal will probably get done. This isn't someone saying no to the deal. Just needs some Cap tweaking to get it done which Colangelo is great at.Didn't the Barnes to Toronto deal blow up overnight?I like it. I wish they would have made a play for him the last time he was a free agent (last year or the year before?). Deal might not be done though (Barnes deal hits a snag). I think he makes the Kleiza deal look pretty bad. Barnes isn't quite as good on the offensive end, but he defense/toughness/attitude is far better than Kleiza. He would have been a great addition to the team last year instead Turk when offense wasn't a problem and the defense was embarassing... to put it nicely.I sure hope Triano lets them run. Every guy they got, including the bigs, can get up and down the floor and finish. The problems are going to come when they are forced to run their offense out of the half court. While they have a lot of great athletes, not many can create their own shot or knock down a three (The streak may come to an end). I think we'll see a lot of Bargnani in the post trying to inCliff, what are your thoughts on the likely Matt Barnes to the Raps deal?
I've always liked Barnes when I've seen him with GSW, PHO and most recently ORL, but I'm not sure if he isn't redundant on the Raps. He seems to give you pretty much what Kleiza will and with the development of Weems and DeRozan the depth looks to be great at the SG/SF spot, especially when you factor in Belinelli and Barbosa getting some burn at the 2.
The Raptors certainly look like a team that will push the ball and play more of a run and gun style, which should make watching the games at least interesting, but I'm still not sure how that starting lineup will shake out.
Still have to wait and see what happens with Jose before we'll know what the lineup looks like. Hopefully they can move him with either Banks/Evans (expiring) and/or Bellini for a center.
Jack / Barbosa / Banks
Derozan / Weems / Bellini
Barnes / Kleiza
The bigs are a giant mess. You'd think they'd want to move Bargnani to PF but there really isn't a center on the roster. Johnson/Davis/Dorsey/Evans are all undersized. Alabi probably won't see much game time.
Rambling before my first coffee if that doesn't make sense...
I've only caught the highlights on NBA.com... he definitely hasn't lost his hops. Him and Weems have been destroying teams. Hopefully a tiny little bit of that will come into the regular season.I'm excited to see Derozan's progression. His shooting has looked more polished in the summer league.
Me too. His size, build and game remind me a lot of Tracy McGrady during his rookie season on the Raptors.McGrady was a better rebounder and saw the court better, but DeRozan IMO takes better shots resulting in a better FG%. Both had shaky outside shots to begin their careers, but I've been reading some positive things about DeRozan working on his shooting, both from mid-range and out to the 3 over the summer, so that's a very positive development. If he can get a little more consistency and range on his shots, the game should open up more for him.I don't know if DeRozan will end up being an All-Star, all-around player like McGrady, but there are some similarities between them (aside from both of them being so unfortunate looking). If he continues his development, I can see him being a consistent 15-18 ppg, 4-5 rpg and 2 apg type player.I'm excited to see Derozan's progression. His shooting has looked more polished in the summer league.
Barnes may have to agree to new terms because of the financial constraints of both the Raps and Magic.So the Barnes SnT is dead now? Can't the Raps straight sign him, or would be it significantly less than 2/10?
Toronto recently spent the bulk of its $5.8 million mid-level exception to sign Linas Kleiza. They don't have the available funds to sign Barnes outright to a deal that starts in the neighborhood of $4 million.
The Magic are prevented by salary-cap rules from starting a sign-and-trade deal for Barnes at higher than $2 million, because Orlando doesn't have Barnes' full Bird rights after employing him for only one season.
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Not for much longer.except that Nellie is still the coach, of course...Nice article on David Lee: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/sports/b...&ref=sports
What a great off-season it's been for the Warriors.
i think they'll let it play out for the year. he might get canned mid-season but i expect him to be the coach on opening day.Celph Titled said:Not for much longer.saintfool said:except that Nellie is still the coach, of course...pollardsvision said:Nice article on David Lee: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/sports/b...&ref=sports
What a great off-season it's been for the Warriors.
Cavaliers fans are taking their discarded LeBron James gear to South Beach, according to SportsIllustrated.com.With James moving on to a new kingdom in Miami next season, his hurting hometown fans cannot get their James gear off their backs quick enough.Cavs fans dumping unwanted LeBron jerseys at drop-off sites around town. Discarded LBJ gear to be sent to homeless in Miami.
I guess its better than just burning them.
This is not surprising. Aside from LBJ diehards and the people of Miami, no one really liked his choice.MAGIC!!!!
Magic Johnson Criticizes LeBron James, Says He Wouldn't Have Joined Bird
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-07-20/m...oined-bird.html
Exactly what I was thinking. Why would Magic ever think about going to another team when he led the Lakers to a championship his rookie year with Kareem out in game 6. Not to mention he also signed a 20-25 year contract with the Lakers, IIRC. After that, he wasn't going anywhere.If LeBron got drafted by the team that had one of the best big men of all time in his prime and added another HOFer with the #1 overall pick two years later, he never would have had to make the choice.This is not surprising. Aside from LBJ diehards and the people of Miami, no one really liked his choice.MAGIC!!!!
Magic Johnson Criticizes LeBron James, Says He Wouldn't Have Joined Bird
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-07-20/m...oined-bird.html
Pretty sure it's a lot easier for Tragic Johnson to say that when he's in LA with Kareem, Worthy, Scott, Rambis, etc.... instead of stuck in Cleveland with a crappy roster.MAGIC!!!!
Magic Johnson Criticizes LeBron James, Says He Wouldn't Have Joined Bird
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-07-20/m...oined-bird.html
If LeBron got drafted by the team that had one of the best big men of all time in his prime and added another HOFer with the #1 overall pick two years later, he never would have had to make the choice.This is not surprising. Aside from LBJ diehards and the people of Miami, no one really liked his choice.MAGIC!!!!
Magic Johnson Criticizes LeBron James, Says He Wouldn't Have Joined Bird
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-07-20/m...oined-bird.html

He's my favorite white player.David Lee injures finger. Could be serious.![]()

Sorry, but Bucks fans have already reserved the rights to "Tragic Johnson" for the Earvin Johnson that played for them. His offense truly was tragic.Pretty sure it's a lot easier for Tragic Johnson to say that when he's in LA with Kareem, Worthy, Scott, Rambis, etc.... instead of stuck in Cleveland with a crappy roster.
I do find it pretty funny that Jordan and Magic are slamming Lebron, whose side kick in Cleveland was Mo Williams. Jordan played with Pippen, and Magic played with Kareem and Worthy. Too funny.Pretty sure it's a lot easier for Tragic Johnson to say that when he's in LA with Kareem, Worthy, Scott, Rambis, etc.... instead of stuck in Cleveland with a crappy roster.MAGIC!!!!
Magic Johnson Criticizes LeBron James, Says He Wouldn't Have Joined Bird
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-07-20/m...oined-bird.html
Sorry, but Bucks fans have already reserved the rights to "Tragic Johnson" for the Earvin Johnson that played for them. His offense truly was tragic.Pretty sure it's a lot easier for Tragic Johnson to say that when he's in LA with Kareem, Worthy, Scott, Rambis, etc.... instead of stuck in Cleveland with a crappy roster.He also did the impossible by supplanting Scottie Pippen as the NBA player most likely to have ancestors from Easter Island.
I'm dying here because I've always claimed that Scottie Pippen looks like an Easter Island statue. Weird.so they'll experiment with him as Curry's backup? interesting.Looks like that Lin guy from Harvard is going to sign with the Warriors. Cue the Big Trouble In Little China jokes.
Compiling assets.Kahn saying Ridnour will challenge Flynn for the starting PG job and that one of them or Sessions will be moved if all 3 are healthy. Nice team building TWolves.
i'm going to guess 3 years and $19 million.Richard Jefferson back in camp with the Spurs - terms as yet undisclosed, but the implication is he traded a single year at 15 M for more years.![]()
Welcome to the Warriors! Here's your injury.David Lee injures finger. Could be serious. :(

the curse is still in effectBob Loblaw said:Welcome to the Warriors! Here's your injury.David Lee injures finger. Could be serious. :(![]()
So I guess we can expect an emergency hysterectomy for Jeremy Lin any day now?the curse is still in effectBob Loblaw said:Welcome to the Warriors! Here's your injury.David Lee injures finger. Could be serious.![]()
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If you were playing on a 15-win team, and knew you weren't part of the team's long-term plans, wouldn't you welcome the news?!Gr00vus said:Kahn saying Ridnour will challenge Flynn for the starting PG job and that one of them or Sessions will be moved if all 3 are healthy. Nice team building TWolves.
Sessions has known for quiet a while now that he's probably gone. He's taking it very well, like Al Jefferson did. At least the Timberwolves aren't jerking them around. I'd rather have the GM be honest with me, instead of telling me one day that I've got a chance to start and am part of the team's long-term rebuilding efforts, only to ship me off to __________ tomorrow for a future 2nd round pick and a bag of peanuts.They're all getting jerked around, but only one ends up with a happy ending - the guy who gets dealt. The other two who are stuck with the team will probably be too depressed to function. Then again I'm sure they're all going to do their absolute best to be healthy until the deal goes down.If you were playing on a 15-win team, and knew you weren't part of the team's long-term plans, wouldn't you welcome the news?!Gr00vus said:Kahn saying Ridnour will challenge Flynn for the starting PG job and that one of them or Sessions will be moved if all 3 are healthy. Nice team building TWolves.Sessions has known for quiet a while now that he's probably gone. He's taking it very well, like Al Jefferson did. At least the Timberwolves aren't jerking them around. I'd rather have the GM be honest with me, instead of telling me one day that I've got a chance to start and am part of the team's long-term rebuilding efforts, only to ship me off to __________ tomorrow for a future 2nd round pick and a bag of peanuts.